Jury duty no show. What happens?

CarlWinslow
10-12-2011, 02:44 PM
I got a jury duty notice today. I will not be attending.

I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal but I honestly don't have time to get away from work and have a series of appointments set up on the day the summoned me for, as well as all days after.

I have been told that calling and asking for exemption due to work doesn't generally work so what happens if I just ignore the thing?

Jee
10-12-2011, 02:45 PM
Isn't it illegal to not show up ?

Seachd
10-12-2011, 02:49 PM
Isn't it illegal to not show up ?

That's what I thought.

ThaDevilGirl
10-12-2011, 02:50 PM
I think you have to show up...

Francesa
10-12-2011, 02:50 PM
You get fined or thrown in jail.

hocky
10-12-2011, 02:51 PM
depends where you live. will probably have to pay a fine

Stoneberg
10-12-2011, 02:51 PM
It's not like they're going to arrest you for not showing up to jury duty. If you get any slack just lie and say you never received the notice. That's what I'd do. I'm sure if there ended up being some sort of fine it could easily be disputed.

Live in the Now
10-12-2011, 02:53 PM
Call and ask for the exemption. If you ignore it, whatever will happen probably isn't good.

KpopandHockey
10-12-2011, 02:54 PM
I got a jury duty notice today. I will not be attending.

I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal but I honestly don't have time to get away from work and have a series of appointments set up on the day the summoned me for, as well as all days after.

I have been told that calling and asking for exemption due to work doesn't generally work so what happens if I just ignore the thing?

Your work is required by law to allow you to come, if they fire you over it you can take them to court.

guyincognito
10-12-2011, 02:54 PM
Dunno how it works in Canada, but it's probably not a good idea. Obviously not as bad as being *selected* and not showing up to the actual trial, but still... :laugh:

RayP
10-12-2011, 02:55 PM
It's not like they're going to arrest you for not showing up to jury duty. If you get any slack just lie and say you never received the notice. That's what I'd do. I'm sure if there ended up being some sort of fine it could easily be disputed.

This is what I've always said that I would do. Although I have always wondered if it would work, and if there would still be a penalty...? I'd have to imagine thousands of people do it on a yearly basis.

CarlWinslow
10-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Your work is required by law to allow you to come, if they fire you over it you can take them to court.

I realize that but it isn't that simple. I have appointments that I have to keep not for my sake, but for the other person's sake. There isn't anyone else in my office who can go in my place either.

nightfighter
10-12-2011, 02:57 PM
this:

Any person summoned for jury service who fails to respond or appear may be ordered by this court to appear at their own expense to show cause why they failed to comply with the summons. Any person failing to show good cause for non-compliance with the jury summons may be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than three (3) days, or both, pursuant to Title 28, USC Section 1866.

Dr Awesome
10-12-2011, 02:57 PM
Tell them you have explosive diarrhea


Also I have been pretty lucky so far. I am 28 and have not been called once.


(knock on wood)

CarlWinslow
10-12-2011, 02:58 PM
this:

I'll go there and hand them $100.00 to get out of it if that's what it takes. Money isn't the problem.

JaysCyYoung
10-12-2011, 03:02 PM
The key is to claim that you're prejudiced against all races.

dfk711*
10-12-2011, 03:02 PM
Skip it, *****

hototogisu
10-12-2011, 03:03 PM
I'll go there and hand them $100.00 to get out of it if that's what it takes. Money isn't the problem.

It'd suck to get imprisoned for 3 days and miss all those appointments anyway.

It's funny, a few days ago I got a summons for jury duty, on the 31st. I'm going to go because, well, it's a day out of work at least. So why not.

RayP
10-12-2011, 03:06 PM
I'll go there and hand them $100.00 to get out of it if that's what it takes. Money isn't the problem.

Any person summoned for jury service who fails to respond or appear may be ordered by this court to appear at their own expense to show cause why they failed to comply with the summons. Any person failing to show good cause for non-compliance with the jury summons may be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than three (3) days, or both, pursuant to Title 28, USC Section 1866.


USC = United States Code...

awesomo
10-12-2011, 03:07 PM
They should lock you up for 3 days

Stoneberg
10-12-2011, 03:08 PM
lol not more than a $100 fine? Easy choice to skip now bro, don't worry about it (assuming it's the same, or similar, in Canada).

optimus2861
10-12-2011, 03:09 PM
Just go the courthouse in advance and ask to be excused. I did that once because I got summoned to go during university exams, and they excused me no problem.

EDIT to add: in Manitoba, if you fail to show up for jury duty, you can be fined $500 and/or get 30 days in jail. See here (http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/j030e.php)

DisgruntledHawkFan
10-12-2011, 03:10 PM
In my case? Nothing. I got another notice. I called in asking for an extension. Said 6 months. It's been close to a year.

Jee
10-12-2011, 03:10 PM
How do they choose you anyway? Is it like a sorting hat where they pull out random names that have no criminal record ??

CarlWinslow
10-12-2011, 03:11 PM
In my case? Nothing. I got another notice. I called in asking for an extension. Said 6 months. It's been close to a year.

Extension eh? That sounds like a plausible way of escaping this.

CarlWinslow
10-12-2011, 03:13 PM
How do they choose you anyway? Is it like a sorting hat where they pull out random names that have no criminal record ??

Seems to be. Normally I'd be pumped about it but this is the wrong time of year.

MeowLeafs
10-12-2011, 03:24 PM
I remember I got a letter awhile back asking me questions which pertains to my eligibility for jury duty. I was worried they'd ask me to attend which would suck because then I'd have to do something that directly contradicts my laziness. Luckily, I guess I was worthless to them because I never heard back from them again :)

I Hate Chris Butler
10-12-2011, 03:43 PM
Just do your best to get not picked. Be biased as hell.

Epictetus
10-12-2011, 03:49 PM
Just do your best to get not picked. Be biased as hell.

shouldn't be a problem if he's already pronouncing he/she to be a criminal.

Stoneberg
10-12-2011, 03:51 PM
shouldn't be a problem if he's already pronouncing he/she to be a criminal.That, and it's an irrelevant suggestions given the fact that the OP's problem is not being able to make it to the selection to begin with.

Swept In Seven
10-12-2011, 03:53 PM
You are going to get fined and spend some time in the clink. Just go, or try to get out of it. Not worth the fine or the mark on your record

MeowLeafs
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf4tq8OPRz1qzwpyko1_400.jpg

Kagee*
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
I made sure I went down there a few days before and signed out of it (was a fast procedure) better to be safe!

Swept In Seven
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
I got a jury duty notice about 2 months ago. I am a full time student and all I needed to do was fill out the form they send with it and fax it in to them so I did not have to attend.

Jee
10-12-2011, 03:55 PM
Serious question:

Do they pick aspergers or any mentally challenged person ?

If not, isn't that a proof that they aren't normal people ?

KpopandHockey
10-12-2011, 04:02 PM
Carl just tell them your views on texting while driving, you will be gone. Make sure you use some of the analogies that you stated in your texting thread.

Chandrashekhar Limit
10-12-2011, 04:05 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lf4tq8OPRz1qzwpyko1_400.jpg

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I remember that.

saskfarmboy
10-12-2011, 08:00 PM
My dad us a farmer, and he has been summoned for jury duty multiple times. Each time has been done during harvest or seeding, so he tells them that his entire income depends on getting the crop seeded/harvested, and he hasn't had to go.

neofury*
10-12-2011, 09:16 PM
I realize that but it isn't that simple. I have appointments that I have to keep not for my sake, but for the other person's sake. There isn't anyone else in my office who can go in my place either.

My boss and I have appointments like this all the time. I would just call them and say I'm a specialist in my field who is booked constantly and I need to be on site some where fixing somebodies accounting software and helping them due to a government audit, I can't make the court date and nobody in the province can replace me at this job. This company will be ****ed if I don't go, I cannot go and I cannot stress enough how I need an exemption or for a date change. When am I available? I have an opening May 28th 2012...

Then if they refused I would no show and claim I never got the letter and flat out deny ever having called. It's fun wasting tax payers time with ******** like this when they have real jobs to be at. Go find some bums on unemployment and other various ******** excuses for not working, stop wasting my time the guy who has a ****ing job and a life. The courts can have a fun wasted day I really don't give two *****.

Montag DP
10-12-2011, 09:25 PM
I believe you lose your texting-and-driving privileges.

Dave
10-12-2011, 09:29 PM
I got called for jury duty before, but it was during the summer and I had to make money to pay for tuition. I think there was some sort of allowance provided to me for my services, but they would've been less than my wages. Told them that the compensation wasn't enough and that I need to keep my regular job to make money for school. And they were fine with that.

DJyellow
10-12-2011, 10:23 PM
It's not like they're going to arrest you for not showing up to jury duty. If you get any slack just lie and say you never received the notice. That's what I'd do. I'm sure if there ended up being some sort of fine it could easily be disputed.

I got mine by registered mail, so I don't think that would fly.

I was in school at the time. I just told them that I couldn't miss thta much time as it would compromise my semester

TheGooooch
10-12-2011, 10:30 PM
I hope you ignore them for your little job and have to go to jail.

Small price to pay IMO for moving an appointment a week away

RAZZIE King
10-12-2011, 10:38 PM
I once got a subpena to show up for sentencing for "avoiding jury duty"...and I had moved out of California to Las Vegas probably two or three days before the original summons for jury duty was mailed out and didn't have my permanent address yet...so I didn't know where to forward my mail until the last possible second...

I was told that everything had been straightened out...but I'm playing it safe and will not step foot in that state again...

Stacy
10-12-2011, 10:48 PM
In my case? Nothing. I got another notice. I called in asking for an extension. Said 6 months. It's been close to a year.

Same with me, I got jury duty during finals week so I called and said I needed an extension. Three months later they sent me another notice. I called again and said I needed an extension. I haven't received any notices after that and it's been about a year.

CommanderShepard15
10-12-2011, 10:51 PM
go in and say 1 of 3 things

1. i know the defendent/plantif

2. i already have a verdict in mind, and i never change my mind

3. im stupid and dont understand what im suppose to do.

Dylonus
10-12-2011, 10:56 PM
The key is to claim that you're prejudiced against all races.

This actually works. I had a friend who truthfully got out of jury duty because he was racist. He even admitted that [said race here] was guilty in his eyes no matter what.

He hasn't been summoned since.

Lundqvist=Vezina
10-13-2011, 12:56 AM
I don't like people trying to skip out on jury duty for no good reason. It's your civic ****ing duty.

Justified
10-13-2011, 01:06 AM
I was summoned two years ago and I called up and told them I had an exam that day. They said I was exempt but never told me when I should be expecting another card in the mail.

Fixed to Ruin
10-13-2011, 01:06 AM
I don't like people trying to skip out on jury duty for no good reason. It's your civic ****ing duty.

Lawyers and judges don't work for crumbs, why should I?

danaluvsthekings
10-13-2011, 02:09 AM
The last 2 times I've been called for jury duty I've ended up in the jury box for jury selection. First case I was excused because it was medical malpractice and my mom had had surgery at the hospital in the case. Second case was a child molestation case and I work with kids so I was excused again.

Needless to say, my luck probably can't hold again and I'm not looking forward to jury duty in November.

thestonedkoala
10-13-2011, 02:17 AM
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I was told that everything had been straightened out...but I'm playing it safe and will not step foot in that state again...

If they could be dickish about it, they could probably find a felony and well have a warrant out for your arrest. But I don't think they want to waste that much time. But I wouldn't go anywhere outside of Las Vegas.

Lundqvist=Vezina
10-13-2011, 02:54 AM
Lawyers and judges don't work for crumbs, why should I?
I just answered that... because its your civic duty to society.

Miss Ausguins
10-13-2011, 07:15 AM
How do they choose you anyway? Is it like a sorting hat where they pull out random names that have no criminal record ??

In Australia, we get chosen for Jury Duty randomly from the Electoral Roll (and voting is compulsory too).

kingsholygrail
10-13-2011, 07:20 AM
Like everything else in life...

"Lost in the mail."

"Did not receive the phone call."

TaylorHall
10-13-2011, 08:28 AM
Just go the courthouse in advance and ask to be excused. I did that once because I got summoned to go during university exams, and they excused me no problem.

EDIT to add: in Manitoba, if you fail to show up for jury duty, you can be fined $500 and/or get 30 days in jail. See here (http://web2.gov.mb.ca/laws/statutes/ccsm/j030e.php)

Exact same thing happened to me in my 2nd year of University. teeheehee

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 09:03 AM
L-M-A-O

I got one last summer. All I had to do was wait and see if the trial was even going to take place. We got called off. Never had to appear. Now i'm clear for XYZ years.

What happens if you piss off the judge by being biased or anything?

RayP
10-13-2011, 09:12 AM
L-M-A-O

I got one last summer. All I had to do was wait and see if the trial was even going to take place. We got called off. Never had to appear. Now i'm clear for XYZ years.

What happens if you piss off the judge by being biased or anything?

You talking about what happens if you're biased after you've been selected to be a juror, or during the selection? If it's during the selection, then they'll just send you home. No idea what would happen if someone was being noticeably biased during the case. This is why I always keep one of these in my closet, just to make sure I don't get selected.

http://www.rebelyellonline.com/images/Rebel%20Leather%20Vest.jpg

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 09:15 AM
You talking about what happens if you're biased after you've been selected to be a juror, or during the selection? If it's during the selection, then they'll just send you home. No idea what would happen if someone was being noticeably biased during the case. This is why I always keep one of these in my closet, just to make sure I don't get selected.

http://www.rebelyellonline.com/images/Rebel%20Leather%20Vest.jpg

Yes, what happens if you piss off the judge in selectioon? I was thinking about it if I had to appear but it seems like a real cheesy way to get out of it that could bring repurcussions..

RayP
10-13-2011, 09:17 AM
Yes, what happens if you piss off the judge in selectioon? I was thinking about it if I had to appear but it seems like a real cheesy way to get out of it that could bring repurcussions..

They would just send you home, and not select you to be part of the jury, and move onto the next person.

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 09:18 AM
They would just send you home, and not select you to be part of the jury, and move onto the next person.

Would you still get credit that would leave you off the hook for like the next 5ish years?

optimus2861
10-13-2011, 09:45 AM
Yes, what happens if you piss off the judge in selection? I was thinking about it if I had to appear but it seems like a real cheesy way to get out of it that could bring repercussions..
The "show up and make yourself look bigoted" sounds like a really bad idea. You think trial lawyers & judges haven't heard it all before and can't pick up on when you're BS'ing them? Worst case you could earn yourself a contempt of court citation, depending on just how much of an ass you make of yourself and the local laws.

Just be honest, for pete's sake. "I have important duties at work during the time of the trial. May I be excused or at least deferred?" If it's going to be a long trial, "This will cause myself and my family financial hardship. May I be excused or at least deferred?" It's not hard. Don't no-show it and don't make up some elaborate scheme to get out of it.

The Cheat
10-13-2011, 10:00 AM
just tell them you don't trust cops or colored people. worked for me 4 out of 4 times. And I got to go home early too.

kingsholygrail
10-13-2011, 10:07 AM
Also, the lawyers are largely the ones that request jurors to be dismissed and lawyers really don't like people that might have an expertise in a field related to the case or have strong opinions on justice, etc.

For instance, if it's some slip and fall case and you manage a grocery store, you may be considered biased.

Pretending to be stupid might actually increase your likelihood to get on the case.

piqued
10-13-2011, 10:46 AM
Nothing. Are you kidding? They don't have the resources to follow up on stuff like that.

Belfour20
10-13-2011, 10:49 AM
Got summoned last year. Went to the courthouse, you get put in a courtroom with what was roughly about 100 people. They go over the process and then name the people in the case and any witnesses that are involved. This is your best opportunity to get out because they ask if you know any of the people on the list. From my experience they didn't even question how you knew them unless it was a very common name so you could lie here.

After that they call out numbers and have you go up and stand in front of the lawyers and they have so many challenges. Seems your job is a very important part to their decision, if you're in any field that you have influence on people (teachers, etc..) they challenged those quickly.

During this time you can go up to the judge and plead why you should be excused if you have a valid reason. The whole have little kids at home (can't afford babysitter), can't miss work, etc. doesn't seem to work. Valid excuses I saw pass were Students (with finals) and People with medical reasons. Any financial hardship problems I suggest you send that in advance as you would have a better chance getting off then.

Of course I got selected which I didn't mind. Was an interesting experience, deliberations at the end was probably the worst part of it all as everyone has different opinions and it's hard to come to an agreement sometimes (depending on the case obviously). If you can afford to have the time off of work I would say it's no big deal.

CarlWinslow
10-13-2011, 11:27 AM
I have cooked up a rather sound explanation as to why I will be unable to attend. I will be calling this afternoon and informing them.

I will let you know how it goes.

BTW, they pay you like $8.00 a day for this crap. I would still get paid by my actual job anyway but that's crap. I'm not giving them potentially multiple days for $8.00 a pop. They can go to hell.

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 11:30 AM
I have cooked up a rather sound explanation as to why I will be unable to attend. I will be calling this afternoon and informing them.

I will let you know how it goes.

BTW, they pay you like $8.00 a day for this crap. I would still get paid by my actual job anyway but that's crap. I'm not giving them potentially multiple days for $8.00 a pop. They can go to hell.

Lol are you like one of them anti government/cops and what not type of guys?

xtra
10-13-2011, 02:33 PM
agreed....go in on one day with a KKK outfit on and i bet they don't even let you in. you can have your work clothes on and then just change and go to work

CarlWinslow
10-13-2011, 02:36 PM
So, I tried to call the Jury Summons office to tell them I wasn't making it and nobody actually answers the phone. It just sends you to a voice mail where you leave your juror number and your excuse.

Here's the thing.

The voice mail is full... :shakehead


Great job government of Manitoba! :sarcasm:

Dgill
10-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Start talking court jargon, you'll get excused. My Psych & Law course has prepared me well for if the situation ever arises.

The Cheat
10-13-2011, 02:55 PM
Nothing. Are you kidding? They don't have the resources to follow up on stuff like that.

********.

I had the city follow up on a 15 dollar parking infraction from 5 years ago. Ignoring your duty as a citizen of the united states / jury duty, don't be surprised when you get pulled over and they haul your ass to the pokey or throw the book at you

The Cheat
10-13-2011, 02:58 PM
BTW, they pay you like $8.00 a day for this crap. I would still get paid by my actual job anyway but that's crap. I'm not giving them potentially multiple days for $8.00 a pop. They can go to hell.

Do you have a source for this?

From what I was told at the courthouse was that if your job did not offer to compensate you with paid time off for court duty, then (atleast in CT) would compensate you at up to $8 per hour (x8 per day) until you were done serving.

CarlWinslow
10-13-2011, 03:12 PM
Do you have a source for this?

From what I was told at the courthouse was that if your job did not offer to compensate you with paid time off for court duty, then (atleast in CT) would compensate you at up to $8 per hour (x8 per day) until you were done serving.

$8.00 per day... $8.00 per hour...

Both are crap.

neofury*
10-13-2011, 03:30 PM
That's hilariously bad.

RandV
10-13-2011, 03:32 PM
It's funny because not only have I never received jury duty notice myself but I've never even indirectly seen it through people I know, be it work friends or family.

Belfour20
10-13-2011, 03:44 PM
Do you have a source for this?

From what I was told at the courthouse was that if your job did not offer to compensate you with paid time off for court duty, then (atleast in CT) would compensate you at up to $8 per hour (x8 per day) until you were done serving.

Probably varies between provinces/states. When I served last year we got jack **** for pay even if your work didn't pay you (which mine didn't). The only thing your work is legally obligated to is give you the time off. Things you were compensated for was travel expenses (if you lived outside the city) and they paid for meals. They also paid for lodging once you were in deliberations and weren't allowed to leave each other.

It was a tiered system so you only started getting paid if the case went past 10 days, and then jumped even higher past another "x" amount of days (think it was like 2 months).

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 04:42 PM
********.

I had the city follow up on a 15 dollar parking infraction from 5 years ago. Ignoring your duty as a citizen of the united states / jury duty, don't be surprised when you get pulled over and they haul your ass to the pokey or throw the book at you

Dude, he's a Canuck. No idea if they have a civic duty where surving is required, i would only guess so tho.

SFTC Addict
10-13-2011, 04:43 PM
So, I tried to call the Jury Summons office to tell them I wasn't making it and nobody actually answers the phone. It just sends you to a voice mail where you leave your juror number and your excuse.

Here's the thing.

The voice mail is full... :shakehead


Great job government of Manitoba! :sarcasm:

I thought you could send in an excuse via the net? They have nobody to talk to. when you call to find out if you even gotta go it's a recording giving you the info.

Go Habs Go
10-13-2011, 05:44 PM
a lot of salads can be tossed within 3 days

Habitat
10-13-2011, 05:57 PM
who wouldn't want to go to jury duty, it'd be an awesome expierence. Unless of course it was one of those 10 month cases. **** that then

RAZZIE King
10-13-2011, 11:15 PM
If they could be dickish about it, they could probably find a felony and well have a warrant out for your arrest. But I don't think they want to waste that much time. But I wouldn't go anywhere outside of Las Vegas.
Three months after I sent the last one in...I got another jury duty summons from CA... THIS ONE I mailed back immediately stating that I am no longer a citizen of the state of Confusion (or is that California???)...

Were their computers THAT far out of date that news of my move didn't get to them until AFTER I got that second notice???

The Cheat
10-14-2011, 12:43 AM
It's funny because not only have I never received jury duty notice myself but I've never even indirectly seen it through people I know, be it work friends or family.

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-10-07/1254883342591.png

Oh hoho! It's funny because you jinxed yourself

danaluvsthekings
10-14-2011, 03:11 AM
Also, the lawyers are largely the ones that request jurors to be dismissed and lawyers really don't like people that might have an expertise in a field related to the case or have strong opinions on justice, etc.

That definitely was the case regarding my experience in jury selection. The defense for the guy in the child molestation case was the one that moved to have me dismissed real fast because I'm a teacher (and I'm glad because I couldn't imagine having to sit on a case like that). In the medical malpractice case I could tell both sides weren't happy I knew someone who had been a patient at the hospital. Hospital worried if the person I knew had a bad experience so I might be biased against the hospital. The people suing the hospital wouldn't have wanted me on the case because if my relative had a good experience, I might have been more likely to think the hospital couldn't mess up.

A few months ago there was a woman around here who cut off her husband's penis and put it in the garbage disposal. Like 2 days after I got my summons for jury duty I was reading something in the paper saying the pretrial hearing was going to be at the court where I have jury duty on the same day my jury duty starts.

Forever27
10-14-2011, 03:46 AM
I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal

Saying that ought to about do it.

CarlWinslow
10-14-2011, 10:23 AM
These idiots still have a full voice mail.

I sent an e-mail to the government box, clearly made out to the jury coordinator's attention and I will not be attending.

SFTC Addict
10-14-2011, 05:04 PM
who wouldn't want to go to jury duty, it'd be an awesome expierence. Unless of course it was one of those 10 month cases. **** that then

Colossal waste of time and tax dollars. Most cases those involved know the person who did it is guilty.

Fish on The Sand
10-17-2011, 12:58 AM
Lawyers and judges don't work for crumbs, why should I?

you aren't the one who goes to all of the expense and training to make legal arguments, you just decide who's argument makes more sense, and then cast a vote.

Kane One
10-17-2011, 01:01 AM
Like I said in the other thread, in NY, they don't do anything if I don't show up.

Reverend Mayhem
10-17-2011, 01:21 AM
I got a jury duty notice today. I will not be attending.

I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal but I honestly don't have time to get away from work and have a series of appointments set up on the day the summoned me for, as well as all days after.

I have been told that calling and asking for exemption due to work doesn't generally work so what happens if I just ignore the thing?

OMG. Where do I begin to tell you what is wrong with this post...you have problems, sir.

Dr Van Nostrand
10-17-2011, 03:08 AM
All you have to do is not have a driver's license!

GarbageGoal
10-17-2011, 10:20 AM
Colossal waste of time and tax dollars. Most cases those involved know the person who did it is guilty.

Agreed. Cops should just start shooting people in the head based on probable cause. Or not. Because if they look like they did something, they probably did. Too many people anyway.

stingo
10-17-2011, 10:41 AM
You talking about what happens if you're biased after you've been selected to be a juror, or during the selection? If it's during the selection, then they'll just send you home. No idea what would happen if someone was being noticeably biased during the case. This is why I always keep one of these in my closet, just to make sure I don't get selected.

http://www.rebelyellonline.com/images/Rebel%20Leather%20Vest.jpg

I laughed really hard at this.

Fire Sather
10-17-2011, 11:44 AM
Like everything else in life...

"Lost in the mail."

"Did not receive the phone call."

Word.

I skipped mine last time and I've heard nothing about it.

committedindian86
10-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Unless they send it certified mail (have to sign for it, for all you canucks in here) then nothing

neofury*
10-17-2011, 02:25 PM
Unless they send it certified mail (have to sign for it, for all you canucks in here) then nothing

Are there places in the world that actually don't have certified/registered letters? Come on dude :laugh:

CarlWinslow
10-17-2011, 03:27 PM
So basically, the conclusion is this.

They ended up calling me back in response to my angry e-mail.

Basically, they gave me an exemption until January with the possibility of a permanent exemption if I can produce a letter from my boss saying I won't be paid while away.

I will be obtaining that letter and sending it to them.

The Cheat
10-17-2011, 03:30 PM
I'll lol at the day when one of you 'skippers' has a case where someone ****s with you or your family, then they catch the guy, and try him, but have to let him walk free because other nice guys like you 'didn't get the letter/show up' so they couldn't pick a good jury.

GarbageGoal
10-17-2011, 05:11 PM
I'll lol at the day when one of you 'skippers' has a case where someone ****s with you or your family, then they catch the guy, and try him, but have to let him walk free because other nice guys like you 'didn't get the letter/show up' so they couldn't pick a good jury.

There should be a comic book where a guy with super powers decides to fight crime because of this. Just like Spiderman.

neofury*
10-17-2011, 05:41 PM
So basically, the conclusion is this.

They ended up calling me back in response to my angry e-mail.

Basically, they gave me an exemption until January with the possibility of a permanent exemption if I can produce a letter from my boss saying I won't be paid while away.

I will be obtaining that letter and sending it to them.

Carl Winslow is a contract worker for us and as a result of this case will be terminated as we need this done on such and such a date. GG

committedindian86
10-17-2011, 05:43 PM
:Are there places in the world that actually don't have certified/registered letters? Come on dude :laugh:

I was expecting you guys had mailmen on dogsleds to carry letters written on blocks of ice to your igloos :laugh:

I just didn't know what you guys called it. I've heard it referred to just as return service cause thats what the envelope says on it.

neofury*
10-17-2011, 07:48 PM
:

I was expecting you guys had mailmen on dogsleds to carry letters written on blocks of ice to your igloos :laugh:

I just didn't know what you guys called it. I've heard it referred to just as return service cause thats what the envelope says on it.

:laugh: Awesome. That response was gold. I was just giving you a hard time :laugh:

But awesome response either way.

SFTC Addict
10-18-2011, 04:44 PM
So basically, the conclusion is this.

They ended up calling me back in response to my angry e-mail.

Basically, they gave me an exemption until January with the possibility of a permanent exemption if I can produce a letter from my boss saying I won't be paid while away.

I will be obtaining that letter and sending it to them.

I'm shocked that worked...

RJ8812
10-19-2011, 04:24 PM
I laughed at this thread.

Guess what I got in the mail today?

:help:

SFTC Addict
10-19-2011, 05:12 PM
I laughed at this thread.

Guess what I got in the mail today?

:help:

Lmao. So did my mother

CarlWinslow
10-19-2011, 05:32 PM
I laughed at this thread.

Guess what I got in the mail today?

:help:

Fear not friend, you can escape.

sandman441
10-19-2011, 07:32 PM
I laughed at this thread.

Guess what I got in the mail today?

:help:



now there is a trail, you gotta go now.

RJ8812
10-19-2011, 07:34 PM
Fear not friend, you can escape.

how?

i have to fill out a questionnaire, but I don't really want to lie

how much do you get paid anyways?

Bring_Bak_Damphousse
10-19-2011, 07:44 PM
I got a jury duty notice today. I will not be attending.

I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal but I honestly don't have time to get away from work and have a series of appointments set up on the day the summoned me for, as well as all days after.

I have been told that calling and asking for exemption due to work doesn't generally work so what happens if I just ignore the thing?

I'm going to recommend you send a text Laura's way. I'm pretty sure I've asked her the same thing.

RoboNerdOK
10-19-2011, 11:48 PM
FYI... from someone who knows:

If you ever want to hold a position of trust or a security clearance -- ever -- it's a very bad idea to just skip out on jury duty without getting excused.

This stuff is not hard to find (<30 seconds) and will make you look very un-civic-minded in the eyes of an investigator. It's not 100% likely to shoot down your chances of a clearance, but it's a very hard black eye to paint over. Heck, even corporate investigators can dig this up rather painlessly. Imagine how you'd feel explaining it to your boss when a routine internal employee audit brings this up on you... and the cushy job in a position of trust goes bye-bye.

If you get the card, either do your duty or at least make sure you get squared away.

SFTC Addict
10-19-2011, 11:52 PM
I didn't ask for a civic duty to serve on trial!

RoboNerdOK
10-19-2011, 11:58 PM
I didn't ask for a civic duty to serve on trial!

Wow, I'd hate to see some of you guys living in a country where military service is part of every person's civic duty. At least in the USA or Canada the worst thing that can happen is to get called to make sure someone gets a fair shake when their freedom or fortune is on the line.

Yet we're going to whine about it? :shakehead

I sure hope you never have to face a jury with a similar attitude.

SFTC Addict
10-20-2011, 12:16 AM
Wow, I'd hate to see some of you guys living in a country where military service is part of every person's civic duty. At least in the USA or Canada the worst thing that can happen is to get called to make sure someone gets a fair shake when their freedom or fortune is on the line.

Yet we're going to whine about it? :shakehead

I sure hope you never have to face a jury with a similar attitude.

Heres the thing, most of these trials are a ****ing waste. Most of the time the parties involved know what the real result is. Quit wasting tax dollars trying to prove a nonsense innocence.

Don't get me started on the military but I know for a fact they are almost racist. You have to be perfect, no vision problems, can't take medication, etc. i know this because one time when I was 18 those tards called me and I mentioned being on medication for something at the time and they said they were sorry they couldn't take me(not that I was heartbroken about it)

CarlWinslow
10-20-2011, 11:02 AM
how?

i have to fill out a questionnaire, but I don't really want to lie

how much do you get paid anyways?

I have a note from my boss saying I can't get paid so it would cause me severe financial hardship.

Students can get out of it rather easily if you are one.

If you plan a trip for when you are supposed to be doing duty.

There are many ways.

SFTC Addict
10-20-2011, 11:10 AM
I have a note from my boss saying I can't get paid so it would cause me severe financial hardship.

Students can get out of it rather easily if you are one.

If you plan a trip for when you are supposed to be doing duty.

There are many ways.

Yeah but in comparison your reason is weak. I thought you aid you would get paid? Maybe not, but they will pay you for being there anyway.

The Cheat
10-20-2011, 12:05 PM
I have a note from my boss saying I can't get paid so it would cause me severe financial hardship.

Students can get out of it rather easily if you are one.

If you plan a trip for when you are supposed to be doing duty.

There are many ways.

plenty of students can't simply opt out... sometimes they still make you go

if you plan a trip and the reservations were made after you got the notice (look on the notice itself) tough ****, you still have to go.

if you want to opt out, do it legally, don't just be a dick munch and not show up without saying anything

CarlWinslow
10-20-2011, 12:44 PM
plenty of students can't simply opt out... sometimes they still make you go

if you plan a trip and the reservations were made after you got the notice (look on the notice itself) tough ****, you still have to go.

if you want to opt out, do it legally, don't just be a dick munch and not show up without saying anything

Of course. CarlWinslow opts out legally. Certainly this other unlucky soul can too.

SFTC Addict
10-20-2011, 12:54 PM
plenty of students can't simply opt out... sometimes they still make you go

if you plan a trip and the reservations were made after you got the notice (look on the notice itself) tough ****, you still have to go.

if you want to opt out, do it legally, don't just be a dick munch and not show up without saying anything

Might be different in tree land though.

Harvey Specter
10-20-2011, 01:12 PM
my colleague is on maternity league and she got summoned to a TWO WEEK trial that might be even longer (big, heavily publicized case). additionally, she has to travel about 30 miles there and back. i mean, its not a whole lot of money, but with the cost of fuel and that...luckily shes at least had the baby.

CarlWinslow
12-06-2011, 03:07 PM
I am bumping this thread as it is celebration time friends.

Initially, I sent the jury office an excuse as to why I couldn't go. They gave me an extension and moved my jury duty to January of 2012. They left the door open though, for me to escape completely.

Update: CarlWinslow was informed by the jury coordinator just earlier today that he is officially EXEMPT from jury duty!!!

:cheers::party::partytime:

hototogisu
12-06-2011, 03:19 PM
I went to my jury duty (see post #18). Took the day off work (paid). Went downtown, waited around for about 5 hours. Never even got to me in the selection process, they had already chosen the 14 jurors. Read most of the day, did some sleeping. Got out around 2pm, got my $20 for meals/transportation, and went home. Good stuff.

redwingsrock
12-06-2011, 07:36 PM
I'll go there and hand them $100.00 to get out of it if that's what it takes. Money isn't the problem.

Well, aren't you just part of the 1%......

SFTC Addict
12-13-2011, 04:33 AM
I am bumping this thread as it is celebration time friends.

Initially, I sent the jury office an excuse as to why I couldn't go. They gave me an extension and moved my jury duty to January of 2012. They left the door open though, for me to escape completely.

Update: CarlWinslow was informed by the jury coordinator just earlier today that he is officially EXEMPT from jury duty!!!

:cheers::party::partytime:

Exempt for life by any chance?

Yeah, like I said in most cases you get exempt anyway without ever having to show face, cause like I said most of these trials are ****ing retarded to begin with.

Scottyk9
12-13-2011, 08:21 AM
I had a family member skip 8 before getting a notice with the 9th saying they must attend or they would be fined and issued a summonce to appear. The family member skipped and nothing ever happened.

That said, probably best not to take a chance.

Francesa
12-13-2011, 09:37 AM
plenty of students can't simply opt out... sometimes they still make you go

if you plan a trip and the reservations were made after you got the notice (look on the notice itself) tough ****, you still have to go.

if you want to opt out, do it legally, don't just be a dick munch and not show up without saying anything

Actually it's easy in this county to get exemptions for students

CarlWinslow
12-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Exempt for life by any chance?

Yeah, like I said in most cases you get exempt anyway without ever having to show face, cause like I said most of these trials are ****ing retarded to begin with.

I'm not sure if its a lifetime exemption but they did send me an actual letter today confirming my exemption!

BigT2002
12-13-2011, 10:54 AM
You are being summoned for Jury Duty, not actually sitting in on a jury at this point (I'm assuming it works like it does down South from Canada). Work has to let you go no matter what. If you just do not want to sit on a jury, then go to the selection and when the lawyers start asking the group if there is a biased opinion on whatever the subject matter is, quietly raise your hand and you'll be asked to leave. Done.

To be honest, you should sit on it if it isn't going to be a Casey Anthony like case that will take weeks on end. See how the whole judicial process works. Can always come in handy.

The Cheat
12-13-2011, 11:12 AM
"I had past experiences with the police. I don't trust anything the cops say."

Done and done (for an excuse) usually gets people excused quick.

SFTC Addict
12-14-2011, 01:01 AM
You are being summoned for Jury Duty, not actually sitting in on a jury at this point (I'm assuming it works like it does down South from Canada). Work has to let you go no matter what. If you just do not want to sit on a jury, then go to the selection and when the lawyers start asking the group if there is a biased opinion on whatever the subject matter is, quietly raise your hand and you'll be asked to leave. Done.

To be honest, you should sit on it if it isn't going to be a Casey Anthony like case that will take weeks on end. See how the whole judicial process works. Can always come in handy.

Don't they hold it against you if you like try to piss off the judge or whatever?

But a Casey Anthony type of a case isn't likely in a smaller city like Winnipeg. That's more likely to happen in a big city, a trial of that nature.

Dave
09-15-2012, 06:14 PM
Just got my second summons to jury duty. So lame. Definitely gonna try get out of this one, don't wanna miss work.

I'd be nice if they told you what trial you'd be a part of.

Hugh Mann*
09-15-2012, 06:27 PM
I actually think it would be fun to stick it to some criminal

Tell them that. You'll be excused.

Yeah, I know the OP is old.

Towers
09-15-2012, 07:43 PM
Tell them that. You'll be excused.

Yeah, I know the OP is old.

Your username should be Hugh Jass.

zytz
09-15-2012, 07:50 PM
My step dad has been called several times and his method is to show up for selection and act 100% hillbilly, always making sure to mention that he 'hopes he can do his patriotic duty to get another dirty [insert racial slur] behind bars and make the streets a little safer'

daveskirtun
09-15-2012, 08:04 PM
I ignored it several years ago; nothing happened and I've never been asked again.

Fish on The Sand
09-15-2012, 08:07 PM
I'm not sure why I've never been selected before. I always thought it could be interesting.

PolishBingo
09-15-2012, 08:10 PM
What's with the thread bumps? Anyway just throw around some racists names. That will get you out of it.

njdevscup30
09-15-2012, 08:21 PM
I think it would be cool to be selected. I never have though. You get out of work and experience the legal process? What's not to like? It's a learning experience.

Hugh Mann*
09-15-2012, 08:36 PM
Your username should be Hugh Jass.

Was completely serious. Telling them you plan to vote guilty no matter the facts of the case, because you'd like to "stick it to some criminal," will get you excused from jury duty, or at least pulled off any particular case.

Fire Sather
09-15-2012, 08:55 PM
I skipped it last year, never heard a word.

One Man Rock Band
09-15-2012, 10:04 PM
Dude.. just got and show an obvious bias towards the trial.. you'll be out so fast.

MrFunnyWobbl
09-15-2012, 11:49 PM
First off, I know this read is old, but some of the responses in this thread are gold. I am personally suprised that people in this thread wouldn't want to go, If I was called, I would push everything aside to go unless it was a murder case.


Also, the lawyers are largely the ones that request jurors to be dismissed and lawyers really don't like people that might have an expertise in a field related to the case or have strong opinions on justice, etc.

For instance, if it's some slip and fall case and you manage a grocery store, you may be considered biased.

Pretending to be stupid might actually increase your likelihood to get on the case.

Seems true, I took a law course last, year and this was discussed, If you seem to show a strong (or even small) bias, a lawyer can veto you and you are out, each side gets so many vetos.



Wow, I'd hate to see some of you guys living in a country where military service is part of every person's civic duty. At least in the USA or Canada the worst thing that can happen is to get called to make sure someone gets a fair shake when their freedom or fortune is on the line.

Yet we're going to whine about it? :shakehead

I sure hope you never have to face a jury with a similar attitude.

Seriously, I agree with this 100%!

You are being summoned for Jury Duty, not actually sitting in on a jury at this point (I'm assuming it works like it does down South from Canada). Work has to let you go no matter what. If you just do not want to sit on a jury, then go to the selection and when the lawyers start asking the group if there is a biased opinion on whatever the subject matter is, quietly raise your hand and you'll be asked to leave. Done.

To be honest, you should sit on it if it isn't going to be a Casey Anthony like case that will take weeks on end. See how the whole judicial process works. Can always come in handy.

I would 100% get out of a murder case, I read a few details of the Tori Stafford case and It was disturbing enough, imagine what the Jury would have to listen to in the Anders Brevik case.

I don't see why you would want to get out, In ancient greek (first use of juries, some had over 500 people) a jury was "an impartial judgement of ones guilt by their peers." or something like that. If you live in a Free and democratic country, you should be glad you even have a jury to decide your fate, not like in sudan where you can face 40 lashes for naming a teddy bear Muhammad. That person, whoever it may be, is probably praying they don't get convicted, put yourself in their shoes.

Francesa
09-15-2012, 11:59 PM
What's with skipping jury duty?

1) It's illegal

2) It's not that bad. It's an excuse to get out of work or school (in some regions you may actually be exempt from Jury duty if you are a student)

3) They give you wireless at the courthouse so you can waste time posting about how your'e "STUCK IN JURRRRY DUTY ZOMG" in Lounge

Good way to contribute to society

Don't see why anyone would voluntary want to evade jury duty.

Hugh Mann*
09-16-2012, 12:03 AM
Because it's not pleasant. Most people generally avoid unpleasant things wherever possible or convenient.

Francesa
09-16-2012, 12:04 AM
But they make it pleasant by adding wireless to the courthouse.

GirouxGiroux
09-16-2012, 12:18 AM
Don't understand all the people talking about things to say to get dismissed. That's if you actually get called into a courtroom for jury selection and are trying not to get picked for a case. OP is talking about missing appointments on that specific day.

When I went, I never saw a lawyer. I sat in a room for a couple hours and read a book.

Long Duk Dong
09-16-2012, 12:32 AM
I almost got picked for a big one. 18+ months, hotel, food, weekends at home. It was better than my job at the time. I could've been a slightly better Pauly Shore.

Clowe Me
09-16-2012, 01:11 AM
It pisses me off when I hear people older than me say they've never been selected for jury duty. I'm 28 years old and I've been selected 7 ****ing times.

Bring_Bak_Damphousse
09-16-2012, 02:55 AM
Epic bump... you should all know the op has spent the last few months in a federal pound me in the ass prison for not showing up for jury duty. Let that be a lesson.

njdevscup30
09-16-2012, 10:50 AM
How do they select you for jury duty? Based on your driver's license? Or based on where you work or what?

I've lived in 10 different places of residence over the last 6 years but I have had the same driver's license.

cyris
09-16-2012, 03:30 PM
It pisses me off when I hear people older than me say they've never been selected for jury duty. I'm 28 years old and I've been selected 7 ****ing times.

LOL Im over 30 and have never been called for jury duty. Knock wood!

OilerNut*
09-16-2012, 04:42 PM
LOL Im over 30 and have never been called for jury duty. Knock wood!

Same here, my dad has been though. Maybe you get called for jury duty more in the US?

Baarle*
09-16-2012, 05:32 PM
Same here, my dad has been though. Maybe you get called for jury duty more in the US?

US is a crime filled country, Canada is paradise :sarcasm:

tony d
09-16-2012, 06:52 PM
I got summoned a few years ago. I phoned and told him that I couldn't make it, never got another notice.

PCooper
09-16-2012, 07:37 PM
Didn't scan the whole thread, so apologies if this has been posted:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/956971--judges-want-to-know-why-ontarians-are-skipping-jury-duty

In Ontario, a person who does not appear after receiving a jury summons could be convicted of contempt and receive a fine of up to $1,000 or up to 30 days in jail. However, this rarely happens.

Diskothek
09-17-2012, 03:50 PM
Got summoned when I was still in school, asked to waive it for the time being and I just did it the first time this spring. Like 6-8 years apart from the first notice to this one. Didn't even have to serve, dismissed me at noon. I think one of the lawyers didn't want my knowledge of burns to sway me. Plantiff burned her face using some cheap home eyebrow waxing thing, probably just left it in the microwave too long.

After that I can't be called again for at least another 3 years, but hopefully much longer!

a a ron
09-17-2012, 04:05 PM
If you do go, is it illegal to heckle the prosecution or defence while they're giving their case? Or show up half in the bag

M00se
09-17-2012, 04:37 PM
LOL Im over 30 and have never been called for jury duty. Knock wood!

Same here, on top of that I don't know anyone that has ever been called to jury duty.

Porn*
09-17-2012, 08:29 PM
The key is to claim that you're prejudiced against all races.
or claim to have some legal education...

kingsholygrail
09-17-2012, 09:25 PM
I thought they only summoned old people and the unemployed.

glovesave_35
09-17-2012, 09:32 PM
My boss and I have appointments like this all the time. I would just call them and say I'm a specialist in my field who is booked constantly and I need to be on site some where fixing somebodies accounting software and helping them due to a government audit, I can't make the court date and nobody in the province can replace me at this job. This company will be ****ed if I don't go, I cannot go and I cannot stress enough how I need an exemption or for a date change. When am I available? I have an opening May 28th 2012...

Then if they refused I would no show and claim I never got the letter and flat out deny ever having called. It's fun wasting tax payers time with ******** like this when they have real jobs to be at. Go find some bums on unemployment and other various ******** excuses for not working, stop wasting my time the guy who has a ****ing job and a life. The courts can have a fun wasted day I really don't give two *****.

An interesting view of trial by jury. I'm sure if you think real hard you can see what might be wrong with having the bums and other wastes of space (paraphrasing) decide if someone is innocent or guilty of a crime.

Four Boilermakers
09-18-2012, 10:48 AM
Lawyers and judges don't work for crumbs, why should I?

Because it's your ****ing duty as a citizen of your country. Lawyers and judges can receive jury duty as well, and just like you, they don't get paid for it.

kingsholygrail
09-18-2012, 12:30 PM
Because it's your ****ing duty as a citizen of your country. Lawyers and judges can receive jury duty as well, and just like you, they don't get paid for it.

I didn't vote for that.

CarlWinslow
09-18-2012, 04:27 PM
Because it's your ****ing duty as a citizen of your country. Lawyers and judges can receive jury duty as well, and just like you, they don't get paid for it.

My country's justice system is a broken farce and fails to adequately punish criminals on a daily basis. I refuse to participate in something like a jury which as it would acknowledge that I am somehow OK with the way things are.

puckguy11
09-18-2012, 05:55 PM
Same here, on top of that I don't know anyone that has ever been called to jury duty.

My girlfriend was just summoned for the fourth time in four years. She's never had to been on a jury yet, but we'll see this time.

Dave
09-18-2012, 09:26 PM
So I bumped this thread on the 15 when I got the summons. Read the letter, it said "respond within 5 days" or else face the ramifications (fines or jail time).

So I'm filling this out, and I notice for the first time that the date at the top of the letter says September 11.... So now I'm past the 5 day allowance, looks like I'm off to jail. ******* alberta law courts, says respond within 5 days, gives you letter 1 day before deadline.

CarlWinslow
09-19-2012, 11:09 AM
So I bumped this thread on the 15 when I got the summons. Read the letter, it said "respond within 5 days" or else face the ramifications (fines or jail time).

So I'm filling this out, and I notice for the first time that the date at the top of the letter says September 11.... So now I'm past the 5 day allowance, looks like I'm off to jail. ******* alberta law courts, says respond within 5 days, gives you letter 1 day before deadline.

You will have to update us on what happens to you. Make sure to post if you hear the authorities breaking down your door.

thrillhouse99
09-19-2012, 12:14 PM
So I bumped this thread on the 15 when I got the summons. Read the letter, it said "respond within 5 days" or else face the ramifications (fines or jail time).

So I'm filling this out, and I notice for the first time that the date at the top of the letter says September 11.... So now I'm past the 5 day allowance, looks like I'm off to jail. ******* alberta law courts, says respond within 5 days, gives you letter 1 day before deadline.

I got called two years ago and didn't get the letter in time for the 5 day deal either. I went to the courts in Calgary and told the people what happened, they squared it away for me (and were really nice about it). They only really seemed concerned with me showing up for jury selection.

In jury selection there were I think 700 people for two cases. I didn't even get called up for the lawyers to say yes or no. And FWIW the judge did note the 6 people who didn't show up and told one of the officers to send someone to their house to find out why they didn't show, so I'm thinking no showing is a not great idea.

SK13
09-19-2012, 11:53 PM
My country's justice system is a broken farce and fails to adequately punish criminals on a daily basis. I refuse to participate in something like a jury which as it would acknowledge that I am somehow OK with the way things are.

I so hope you go to jail for it. The irony would be amazing.

Long Duk Dong
09-20-2012, 12:12 AM
I so hope you go to jail for it. The irony would be amazing.

:laugh: