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edmontonoilers89
09-22-2004, 08:34 PM
Watched the first episode today. Seemed pretty good.

What did anyone else think who saw it?

plaugher
09-22-2004, 08:35 PM
Absolutely horrible.

I am stupider for having watched seven minutes of that tripe.

I smell a ratings spike!

Shane
09-22-2004, 08:47 PM
Eh, I dunno. I enjoyed it. I live for mindless television though. If it's got blood, gore, and possibly dinosaurs, I'm all for it. Throw some pirates in there, and that's some good watchin'.

GKJ
09-22-2004, 08:52 PM
Poor Matthew Fox...



...from Party of Five to a series the entire world knows will be cancelled within weeks...

Shane
09-22-2004, 08:55 PM
Poor Matthew Fox...



...from Party of Five to a series the entire world knows will be cancelled within weeks...

Hey, it's got a guarenteed 12-episode commitment, ;)

Clockwork Walrus
09-22-2004, 09:31 PM
They did a lot of filming for this out here, and out on this beach they had this full-scale plane-crash site. It was crazy, I was driving by one day and was caught completely off guard and swerved all over the place when I had first seen it.

Rob Paxon
09-22-2004, 09:39 PM
Any of you guys watch Taken? I loved that mini-series.

Rabid Ranger
09-22-2004, 09:42 PM
Poor Matthew Fox...



...from Party of Five to a series the entire world knows will be cancelled within weeks...


Not going to happen. Lost has scored with the critics and is being helmed by the creator of Alias. It will get a LONG look.

think-blue-
09-22-2004, 09:47 PM
Yeah, I think it will get better once we learn more about the characters and get to see some more interaction.

First ep was decent.

PredsFan77*
09-22-2004, 09:51 PM
Hmm I love the way all the people survived the airplane splitting apart in midair...then the engines somehow survived the fall and waited for a long time before they exploded. After that I turned it off.

Teemu
09-22-2004, 09:52 PM
Why have they been advertising this for two years?

The Tang
09-22-2004, 10:03 PM
first episode dragged more than i thought it would, but all in all it wasnt that bad. think of it as Ep. I of the Star Wars prequels. yeah, it sucked, but all the ground work is done. the series does have a lot of potential, the only question is, will the writers be able to bring it out?

Leaf Lander
09-22-2004, 10:31 PM
ok so what is this beast that killed the pilot

and wil lit be like star trek with only non stars dying lol


Matthew Fox Jack from Party of 5
Matthew Fox is an actor cut from the proverbial leading man cloth, carrying himself with strong charisma and a powerful presence.

Fox is best known for starring in the hugely successful series, Party of Five, winner of the 1996 Golden Globe for Best Drama. He has other numerous credits, which include a starring role in the critically acclaimed series, Haunted and the made-for-television movie, Behind the Mask.

Hailing from a ranch in Wyoming, where his family raised horses and barley, Fox enjoyed the all-American upbringing that led him to play football at Columbia University, where he also studied economics. With every intent of being a successful Wall Street broker, Fox instead was swayed to modeling, which led to some commercial spots, and he has been sold on acting ever since.



Evangeline Lilly Kate she was the prisoner

Evangeline Lilly's combination of irresistible charm and natural talent is earning her a reputation as one of the most promising young actresses in Hollywood.

Three years ago Lilly was discovered by a Ford agent on the streets of Kelowna, BC, but passed up an offer to sign with the agency. While acting had been a dream of hers since she was a teenager, she abandoned the notion for the more aesthetic dream of working in international relations. Six months later Lilly moved to Vancouver to attend the University of British Columbia and decided to sign with Ford to help pay for tuition. After appearing in a few commercials, she decided to give up acting and focus on studying. A couple of years later, a friend urged her to give acting another shot and, after a role in Kingdom Hospital, Lilly caught the acting bug.

Lilly founded and ran a world development and human rights committee at her university. She has lived under a grass hut in the jungles of the Philippines with a missionary group, and has been a volunteer for children's projects since the age of 14.

Lilly is fluent in French and loves ice skating, canoeing, kayaking, snowboarding and rock climbing.


Ian Somerhalder Boone
The son of a massage therapist and building contactor, Ian Somerhalder was born in the small town of Mandeville, Louisiana. Boating, swimming, fishing and training horses filled much of his time growing up, as did the drama club and performing with the local theatre group. At 16 he began pursuing acting professionally in New York, and by 19 he had committed himself to working with the prestigious acting coach, William Esper.

Somerhalder's breakout opportunity came with the lead role on the series Young Americans. His other television credits include CSI, CSI: Miami, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Smallville.

On the big screen Somerhalder will next be seen in In Enemy Hands. He recently starred in Changing Hearts, The Rules of Attraction, and Anatomy of a Hate Crime. He also starred in Irwin Winkler's feature, Life as a House. For this role, Somerhalder was honored by Movieline Magazine's "Young Hollywood Awards," receiving the Fresh New Face Award. Additionally, he was named one of People Magazine's 50 Sexiest Men in the fall of 2002.

Somerhalder was the face of GUESS? Clothing and was featured in their fall campaigns for two years running. He has also worked on campaigns for prestigious designers such as Versace, Esprit and Persol, among many others.

Recently relocated to Los Angeles, Somerhalder spends much of his time writing, reading, producing and perfecting his craft.


Dominic Monaghan Charlie soccer player cocke addict
Dominic Monaghan is best known for his portrayal of the Hobbit, Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck, in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

Monaghan can soon be seen in writer-director Rebecca Cook's dark psychological drama, Shooting Livien. Next up for Monaghan is Chris Atkins' The Purifiers, and Spivs, a heist film.

Monaghan was born in Berlin and grew up in Manchester, England. He is an active environmentalist and enjoys the outdoors, monkeys, insects and football (U.S. Soccer), particularly Manchester United.

He currently resides in Los Angeles with his pet black widow spider and her babies.


Jorge Garcia Hurley Fat guy withbad hair

When Jorge Garcia played a villain in his school's seventh-grade musical production, based on the comic strip, "Drabble," his song brought down the house. It was then that he realized that acting might just be the ticket for him.

After college he joined the Beverly Hills Playhouse and has been working steadily ever since. His television credits include a series regular on Becker, guest leads on Curb Your Enthusiasm and Spin City, and the television movie Columbo: Columbo Likes the Nightlife. Garcia will soon be seen on the big screen in the films The Good Humor Man and Little Athens.

On stage he has appeared in productions of The Midnight Zone, Something Borrowed Something Blue, Romancing Valentino, Fiddler on the Roof, Hurlyburly and Guys and Dolls.

Garcia enjoys doing standup comedy and has performed at the Laugh Factory and Comedy Store in Los Angeles. He likes singing Rock 'n' Roll and has worked in record stores since high school — amassing a huge CD collection.


Maggie Grace Shannon eye candy

Having only started acting professionally two years ago, Maggie Grace already has an enviable list of credits.

A native of Columbus, Ohio, Grace made her television debut two years ago as Martha Moxley in the telefilm Murder in Greenwich. She also starred in the telefilm 12 Mile Road. In addition to a recurring role on Oliver Beene, she guest-starred on Law & Order: SVU, Cold Case, Lyon's Den and CSI: Miami.



Malcolm David Kelley Walt this guy has michelle phiffer for a mom

The entertainment industry isn't new to young Malcolm David Kelley — he has been working in show business since the age of five.

His motion picture credits include roles in Antwone Fisher and You Got Served. On television he guest starred in the series Judging Amy, Malcolm in the Middle, For Your Love, Girlfriends and Eve. He was also featured in numerous commercials, including Cap'n Crunch, Kool Aid, Disney and Kohl's department store. Recently he was seen in a Snoop Dog video and completed a voice over for the Nickelodeon cartoon Fatherhood.

Malcolm spent the first 11 months of his life in foster care before being adopted by the Kelleys. His sister, Sydney, was adopted by the family two months later. He enjoys playing soccer and basketball, despite his small stature. He keeps up with his favorite basketball team — the Lakers — and politics, even getting involved as class Treasurer at his middle school. His leadership earned him the role of Student Ambassador with People to People Student Ambassadors, with whom he traveled to the United Kingdom last July to represent the United States


Naveen Andrews Sayid The guy who looks like a terrorist


London-born Naveen Andrews auditioned for drama school and was accepted at London's Guildhall School of Music and Drama. His studies paid off when he won a role in Hanif Kureshi's film, London Kills Me.

In 1993 Andrews was nominated by the Evening Standard Drama Awards as Most Promising Newcomer for his part in Wild West. His big break occurred when he was cast in the Oscar-winning film The English Patient. He then went on to appear in such films as Kama Sutra, Mighty Joe Young, True Love and Chaos, Rollerball and Drowning on Dry Land. He will also be seen in the upcoming Bride and Prejudice, directed by Gurinder Chadha for Miramax Pictures.

On television his starring performance in Chippendale Murders was highly acclaimed, as was his work in the BBC's The Buddha of Suburbia, for which he was nominated for Best Actor at the San Remo Film Festival. He also starred in the BBC's Peacock Spring, Double Vision, The Frontier and Mira Nair's My Own Country.

Andrerws enjoys playing the guitar, composing and reading. He resides in Los Angeles with his partner, Barbara Hershey. He has one son, Jaisal.


Harold Perrineau Michael The guy who lost his sons dog

An accomplished actor who has graced the stage, screen, and television, Harold Perrineau has earned a well-deserved reputation as a performer willing to take on any role.

Perrineau recently starred on stage in Suzan Lori Parks' 2001 Pulitzer Prize-winning play, Topdog/Underdog. On the big screen, he was featured in The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions, as well as The Best Man. For this role he received an Image Award nomination for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture. Additionally, he received an Independent Spirit Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor for his portrayal of Rashid Cole in Wayne Wang's critically acclaimed feature, Smoke.

His other feature film credits include Woman on Top, Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet, Lulu on the Bridge and The Edge.

On television Perrineau is best known for his role as the wheelchair bound Augustus Hill on Oz. His other television credits include a role in the TV movie An American Tempest, as well as guest appearances on ER, Law & Order and The Cosby Show.

Perrineau began his career in theatre, where he acted in a number of plays, including Dreamgirls, the critically acclaimed Avenue X, the Off-Broadway revival of Godspell and The Love of Bullets at the Public Theater. Most recently he garnered critical acclaim in Joe Penhall's Blue/Orange, where he starred as a young man who received the diagnosis of a borderline personality disorder.

A native of Brooklyn, Perrineau studied music and theatre at the Shenandoah Conservatory. He also studied on scholarship at the Alvin Ailey Company.



Josh Holloway Sawyer The guy that looks liek a killer

Josh Holloway was born in Northern California but moved after only two years to the Blue Ridge Mountains of Georgia, where he was raised the second-eldest of four boys. From an early age he discovered a passion and love for films. After one year at the University of Georgia, he embarked on a successful modeling career which took him all over Europe and North America.

Holloway's pursuit of acting brought him to Los Angeles, where he soon landed a role in the comedy Doctor Benny. He followed that up with lead roles in the independent films Mi Amigo, Moving August and Cold Heart. He then gained considerable notice for his lead role in the Sci-Fi channel's Sabretooth. Most recently he guest starred on CSI and Navy NCIS.

Holloway's hobbies include boating, sailing, snowboarding, martial arts, motor cross and playing guitar. He currently resides in Los Angeles



Terry O'Quinn Locke the bald crippled guy

Terry O'Quinn's impressive gallery of film and television characters includes many diverse roles. He rose to prominence as the outwardly gentle but actually maniacal master of the house in Joseph Ruben's chilling The Stepfather. Though he went on to play leads in other films like Prisoners of the Sun and The Forgotten One, his weight was more effectively felt in supporting roles such as Howard Hughes in Disney's The Rocketeer.

Other feature film credits include Old School, The X-Files: Fight the Future, Primal Fear, Ghosts of Mississippi, Tombstone, Blind Fury, Young Guns, Black Widow, Heaven's Gate and Places in the Heart.

On television O'Quinn had starring roles in Millennium and Harsh Realm, with recurring roles on The West Wing, Alias and Jag. He has guest starred on Law & Order: Criminal Intent, The X Files and Roswell.

On Broadway O'Quinn appeared in Foxfire and Curse of the Aching Heart, and Off-Broadway in Richard III.



Daniel Dae Kim Jin
Daniel Dae Kim has been steadily building a successful career in film, television and on stage. Over the past two seasons Kim has been seen recurring on 24, and on ER. He also played attorney Gavin Park on Angel, as well as appearing on numerous shows as a guest star.

He recently wrapped production on the action film Cave. This summer he was also seen in Spider-Man 2.

Kim, who earned an M.F.A. degree in acting from NYU's Tisch School of the Arts, continues to work on stage in Los Angeles and New York. He has performed in plays from Shakespeare to Beckett to improv comedy. Recently he optioned the rights to the Leonard Chang novel, Over the Shoulder. The project is currently in development to become an independent feature.


Yunjin Kim Sun

An accomplished actress who has already made a name for herself in Korea — and all over Asia with the film Shiri — Yunjin Kim is making her mark on American television with Lost.

Kim was bashful as a kid, so she decided to get over her shyness by taking drama classes in the seventh grade. She was immediately cast in a musical and fell in love with the theatre.

Her Korean feature film credits include starring roles in Ardor, Yesterday, Iron Palm, Ginko Bed 2 and the Japanese film, Rush, as well as roles in the television weekend dramas With Love and Wedding Dress, and the miniseries Hunch and Beautiful Vacation.

Kim was the Goodwill Ambassador for the 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea, representing Korea. While born in Seoul, Korea, she grew up in Staten Island, New York. She attended the prestigious High School of Performing Arts in New York and received her BFA in acting from Boston University.

Kim resides in South Korea with the love of her life — her 14-year-old dog, Tobi.



Emilie de Ravin Claire the blonde chick

Emilie (pronounced Emily) de Ravin first garnered the attention of international audiences with her performance on the popular television series Beastmaster: The Legend Continues. Within one month of moving to Los Angeles from her home in South Melbourne, Australia, she landed the series regular role of Tess Harding on Roswell. Soon after, she starred in the television remake of Stephen King's classic horror film, Carrie.

Emilie recently finished shooting the lead role in the feature film Santa's Slay. In addition she recently completed work on the film Brick. She also recurred on the series The Handler.

Emilie's rising stardom is based upon many years of performance experience and intensive training. She has studied ballet since the age of nine. At the age of 15 she was accepted into the prestigious and highly selective Australian Ballet School. She performed in productions of the Australian Ballet Company, as well as Danceworld 301.

RyanWhite53
09-22-2004, 10:52 PM
Hmm I love the way all the people survived the airplane splitting apart in midair...then the engines somehow survived the fall and waited for a long time before they exploded. After that I turned it off.


See, this is what I hate. I hate when people pick apart a show because something wasn't believable/possible. WHO CARES!?!?

What's even more funny, is that you probably love Star Trek or Star Wars or Back to the Future or Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (it doesn't really matter, you know what I am getting at)

You want reality? watch the news, maybe you'll be lucky enough to see another american get beheaded, or switch it over to Wife Swap (who the hell created this sh**??).

Most people like to leave reality behind for an hour, and lose themselves in someone else's problem, or just to laugh, not to pick apart something because in real life, the pilots jacket would have 3 yellow stripes, not four.

that all being said...I give "Lost" a modest 7/10. I find it hard to believe that they will be able to keep finding new ideas...but hey, Gilligan's Island had a solid run, so who knows?

gretzky1545
09-22-2004, 11:06 PM
Most people like to leave reality behind for an hour, and lose themselves in someone else's problem, or just to laugh, not to pick apart something because in real life, the pilots jacket would have 3 yellow stripes, not four.


don't mind leaving reality behind for an hour or more than that, but i have a problem leaving rationality behind. If the lack of rationality overcomes my desire to leave reality behind then its not worth watching. That point comes at different times for diff people, and large plotholes like surviving a plane split in half would certainly come to my attention, don't know how much itd affect of my enjoyment of the show as i didnt watch it.

The Mars Volchenkov
09-22-2004, 11:24 PM
Guys...where are we?

Leaf Lander
09-23-2004, 01:26 AM
we need more babes :banana: :banana: :yo:

Gee Wally
09-23-2004, 11:21 AM
I thought it was pretty damn good considering it wasn't a cable network.

better than all this "reality" crap they have on.

PredsFan77*
09-23-2004, 12:14 PM
See, this is what I hate. I hate when people pick apart a show because something wasn't believable/possible. WHO CARES!?!?

What's even more funny, is that you probably love Star Trek or Star Wars or Back to the Future or Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure (it doesn't really matter, you know what I am getting at)

You want reality? watch the news, maybe you'll be lucky enough to see another american get beheaded, or switch it over to Wife Swap (who the hell created this sh**??).

Most people like to leave reality behind for an hour, and lose themselves in someone else's problem, or just to laugh, not to pick apart something because in real life, the pilots jacket would have 3 yellow stripes, not four.

that all being said...I give "Lost" a modest 7/10. I find it hard to believe that they will be able to keep finding new ideas...but hey, Gilligan's Island had a solid run, so who knows?

Damn you got me...I love star wars and star trek, I'm one of those guys who dress up as Darth Vader and go to star trek conventions dreaming on my Princess Lela(?) to come rescue me from my hellhole of a life. Pardon me for not taking a grain of salt when watching some pathetic story about people surviving a 40,000 ft. fall and magically they survive it!...and here's the kicker...there is some monster beast in the forest! Hell, I **** better plots than this show. How about getting off your magic soapbox and quit *****ing about people's opinions.

flyrfan
09-23-2004, 02:29 PM
I watched a little bit of the show. I only watched it for Domanic Monahan, but thought that is was good.

Kravitch
09-23-2004, 02:31 PM
Poor Matthew Fox...



...from Party of Five to a series the entire world knows will be cancelled within weeks...

Thats why people expected of Joey.

JFPIV
09-23-2004, 03:34 PM
Hmm I love the way all the people survived the airplane splitting apart in midair...then the engines somehow survived the fall and waited for a long time before they exploded. After that I turned it off.


Lets see, one old guy, one fat guy, one kid, and eleven attractive young twenty somethings plucked from the cast of the bachelor....yeah, that's what every flight I've ever been on has looked like.

What a farce!

think-blue-
09-29-2004, 08:26 PM
Anyone watch it today?

HABitual
09-29-2004, 10:09 PM
Anyone watch it today?

I did and all I can say is WHOA! :amazed:

Quite a surprise to find out who the prisoner is and that message on the radio was scary!

The Tang
09-29-2004, 10:14 PM
i liked the last 20 minutes, the first 40 were pretty boring though. if it doesnt pick up next episode, i'll probably give up on it. like i said before, it has a lot of potential, but its moving along pretty slowly. i can understand the need for all the characters, but they are trying to fit each in for a good amount of time. i think it would be better if they just threw some in here and there instead of constant appearances. there are too many side stories going on with each.

Shane
09-29-2004, 11:09 PM
I'm starting to like where this is going. Very mysterious and creepy.

The whole 16 years thing? Whoa. Super creepy.

I, for one, can't wait until next Wednesday.

Grift69
09-29-2004, 11:13 PM
I havent been able to see this at all. Hopefully I'm able to start watchin it or find the first couple episodes online. What night is it on?

Vlad The Impaler
09-29-2004, 11:33 PM
I did and all I can say is WHOA! :amazed:

Quite a surprise to find out who the prisoner is and that message on the radio was scary!

Yeah, and the gal didn't translate it right. She missed a part.

Shane
09-29-2004, 11:58 PM
I havent been able to see this at all. Hopefully I'm able to start watchin it or find the first couple episodes online. What night is it on?

It's on Wednesday nights on ABC.

They're also re-showing the first two episodes on Saturday night (also on ABC), so if you can catch those then you haven't missed a beat.

Shane
09-29-2004, 11:59 PM
Yeah, and the gal didn't translate it right. She missed a part.

What'd she miss?

Vlad The Impaler
09-30-2004, 12:36 AM
What'd she miss?

Unless I was absolutely crazy, the French message was mentioning a "rocher noir". Which would be a black, or dark rock.

I think she was actually saying "near a dark rock". Of course, all these surviving goofs were arguing during the message playback, which I thought was very stupid, very annoying and sadly, pretty realistic.

Also, I must say that while the French was correct, the lady who was saying that stuff was oddly calm, in a weird way. I can see how it sounded really creepy to someone who wouldn't know the language. But for a francophone, I thought it was odd.

This is a show from the producers of Alias. And in Alias, they usually use actors to play French guys who aren't able to speak French in the least, which is very annoying. I give them props for using a voice actor that could speak it correctly this time but I suspect she wasn't entirely familiar with the language and thus focused on speaking correctly but sacrificed the emotion required. It's either that or the person speaking is really weird (in the plot context).

Anyway, look for a black rock next Wednesday :)

HABitual
09-30-2004, 01:08 AM
Unless I was absolutely crazy, the French message was mentioning a "rocher noir". Which would be a black, or dark rock.

I think she was actually saying "near a dark rock". Of course, all these surviving goofs were arguing during the message playback, which I thought was very stupid, very annoying and sadly, pretty realistic.

Also, I must say that while the French was correct, the lady who was saying that stuff was oddly calm, in a weird way. I can see how it sounded really creepy to someone who wouldn't know the language. But for a francophone, I thought it was odd.

This is a show from the producers of Alias. And in Alias, they usually use actors to play French guys who aren't able to speak French in the least, which is very annoying. I give them props for using a voice actor that could speak it correctly this time but I suspect she wasn't entirely familiar with the language and thus focused on speaking correctly but sacrificed the emotion required. It's either that or the person speaking is really weird (in the plot context).

Anyway, look for a black rock next Wednesday :)

She did say her French wasn't very good, as I recall.

Vlad The Impaler
09-30-2004, 01:31 AM
She did say her French wasn't very good, as I recall.

Yeah, but I still thought it was odd (as far as the script goes). Bcause this message is really, really vague.

"Help, help, blah blah. They're all dead."

The only valuable piece of information to solve the puzzle was a location: a black rock. I found it odd that the script had the girl translate all the vague bits but ignore the only real piece of information.

Markov
09-30-2004, 06:13 AM
Okay, what type of animal was it that was shot? It looked like a big polar bear. :dunno:

The Tang
09-30-2004, 08:56 AM
yes, it was a polar bear.

Shane
10-02-2004, 07:34 PM
It's on right now again. ABC is re-showing the first two episodes. It's midway through the first right now.

think-blue-
10-13-2004, 08:01 PM
This show keeps getting better and better. Crazy episode tonight..loved the ending.

HABitual
10-14-2004, 02:32 AM
It is going in interesting directions for sure. The character development is starting to really pick up too. Locke really isn't as crazy as I first thought he was. He's just misunderstood. ;)

Edler Von Gud
10-14-2004, 02:43 AM
It is going in interesting directions for sure. The character development is starting to really pick up too. Locke really isn't as crazy as I first thought he was. He's just misunderstood. ;)

How the **** did he get away from that polar bear? no way he could've gotten away from that thing, what, did he have a sign on him saying "please don't eat me, I'm a veggie burger"?

Vlad The Impaler
10-14-2004, 03:00 AM
How the **** did he get away from that polar bear? no way he could've gotten away from that thing, what, did he have a sign on him saying "please don't eat me, I'm a veggie burger"?

Whatever he got away from, it wasn't a polar bear. Seems to be some weird creature.

A polar bear is bigass, but from the camera angle showing the beast's perspective today, that was even taller. Also, polar bears wouldn't whack at trees like they're laying bowling, like we often see when this creature is around. They also don't put remains of their victims high in the trees, My guess is this is a monster of some kind, not an animal. That's the first thing that comes to mind, with the polar bear the other day. Looks like some sort of Island of Dr. Moreau, where perhaps some scientist were messing around with different DNA (explaining a polar bear the other day).

The fact he got away might suggest this creature is sentient and has some weird plan for them. Or this guy Locke has something more to reveal later.

I'm afraid the show may take too much supernatural or worse, biblical overtones pretty soon. I'm ok with some mysteries but I hate when they do that. It's going to get lame real soon, IMO.

Leaf Lander
10-14-2004, 04:31 AM
it looks liek a giant parrot to me

the bald guy who is a loner is goingto be a interesting character

Leaf Lander
10-14-2004, 04:47 AM
Matthew Fox Jack from Party of 5
Matthew Fox is an actor cut from the proverbial leading man cloth, carrying himself with strong charisma and a powerful presence.

Fox is best known for starring in the hugely successful series, Party of Five, winner of the 1996 Golden Globe for Best Drama. He has other numerous credits, which include a starring role in the critically acclaimed series, Haunted and the made-for-television movie, Behind the Mask.

Hailing from a ranch in Wyoming, where his family raised horses and barley, Fox enjoyed the all-American upbringing that led him to play football at Columbia University, where he also studied economics. With every intent of being a successful Wall Street broker, Fox instead was swayed to modeling, which led to some commercial spots, and he has been sold on acting ever since.



Evangeline Lilly Kate she was the prisoner

Evangeline Lilly's combination of irresistible charm and natural talent is earning her a reputation as one of the most promising young actresses in Hollywood.

Three years ago Lilly was discovered by a Ford agent on the streets of Kelowna, BC, but passed up an offer to sign with the agency. While acting had been a dream of hers since she was a teenager, she abandoned the notion for the more aesthetic dream of working in international relations. Six months later Lilly moved to Vancouver to attend the University of British Columbia and decided to sign with Ford to help pay for tuition. After appearing in a few commercials, she decided to give up acting and focus on studying. A couple of years later, a friend urged her to give acting another shot and, after a role in Kingdom Hospital, Lilly caught the acting bug.

Lilly founded and ran a world development and human rights committee at her university. She has lived under a grass hut in the jungles of the Philippines with a missionary group, and has been a volunteer for children's projects since the age of 14.

Lilly is fluent in French and loves ice skating, canoeing, kayaking, snowboarding and rock climbing.


Ian Somerhalder Boone
The son of a massage therapist and building contactor, Ian Somerhalder was born in the small town of Mandeville, Louisiana. Boating, swimming, fishing and training horses filled much of his time growing up, as did the drama club and performing with the local theatre group. At 16 he began pursuing acting professionally in New York, and by 19 he had committed himself to working with the prestigious acting coach, William Esper.

Somerhalder's breakout opportunity came with the lead role on the series Young Americans. His other television credits include CSI, CSI: Miami, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit and Smallville.

On the big screen Somerhalder will next be seen in In Enemy Hands. He recently starred in Changing Hearts, The Rules of Attraction, and Anatomy of a Hate Crime. He also starred in Irwin Winkler's feature, Life as a House. For this role, Somerhalder was honored by Movieline Magazine's "Young Hollywood Awards," receiving the Fresh New Face Award. Additionally, he was named one of People Magazine's 50 Sexiest Men in the fall of 2002.

Somerhalder was the face of GUESS? Clothing and was featured in their fall campaigns for two years running. He has also worked on campaigns for prestigious designers such as Versace, Esprit and Persol, among many others.

Recently relocated to Los Angeles, Somerhalder spends much of his time writing, reading, producing and perfecting his craft.


Dominic Monaghan Charlie soccer player cocke addict
Dominic Monaghan is best known for his portrayal of the Hobbit, Meriadoc "Merry" Brandybuck, in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy.

Monaghan can soon be seen in writer-director Rebecca Cook's dark psychological drama, Shooting Livien. Next up for Monaghan is Chris Atkins' The Purifiers, and Spivs, a heist film.

Monaghan was born in Berlin and grew up in Manchester, England. He is an active environmentalist and enjoys the outdoors, monkeys, insects and football (U.S. Soccer), particularly Manchester United.

He currently resides in Los Angeles with his pet black widow spider and her babies.


Jorge Garcia Hurley Fat guy withbad hair

When Jorge Garcia played a villain in his school's seventh-grade musical production, based on the comic strip, "Drabble," his song brought down the house. It was then that he realized that acting might just be the ticket for him.

After college he joined the Beverly Hills Playhouse and has been working steadily ever since. His television credits include a series regular on Becker, guest leads on Curb Your Enthusiasm and Spin City, and the television movie Columbo: Columbo Likes the Nightlife. Garcia will soon be seen on the big screen in the films The Good Humor Man and Little Athens.

On stage he has appeared in productions of The Midnight Zone, Something Borrowed Something Blue, Romancing Valentino, Fiddler on the Roof, Hurlyburly and Guys and Dolls.

Garcia enjoys doing standup comedy and has performed at the Laugh Factory and Comedy Store in Los Angeles. He likes singing Rock 'n' Roll and has worked in record stores since high school — amassing a huge CD collection.


Maggie Grace Shannon eye candy

Having only started acting professionally two years ago, Maggie Grace already has an enviable list of credits.

A native of Columbus, Ohio, Grace made her television debut two years ago as Martha Moxley in the telefilm Murder in Greenwich. She also starred in the telefilm 12 Mile Road. In addition to a recurring role on Oliver Beene, she guest-starred on Law & Order: SVU, Cold Case, Lyon's Den and CSI: Miami.



Malcolm David Kelley Walt this guy has michelle phiffer for a mom

The entertainment industry isn't new to young Malcolm David Kelley — he has been working in show business since the age of five.

His motion picture credits include roles in Antwone Fisher and You Got Served. On television he guest starred in the series Judging Amy, Malcolm in the Middle, For Your Love, Girlfriends and Eve. He was also featured in numerous commercials, including Cap'n Crunch, Kool Aid, Disney and Kohl's department store. Recently he was seen in a Snoop Dog video and completed a voice over for the Nickelodeon cartoon Fatherhood.

Malcolm spent the first 11 months of his life in foster care before being adopted by the Kelleys. His sister, Sydney, was adopted by the family two months later. He enjoys playing soccer and basketball, despite his small stature. He keeps up with his favorite basketball team — the Lakers — and politics, even getting involved as class Treasurer at his middle school. His leadership earned him the role of Student Ambassador with People to People Student Ambassadors, with whom he traveled to the United Kingdom last July to represent the United States


Naveen Andrews Sayid The guy who looks like a terrorist


London-born Naveen Andrews auditioned for drama school and was accepted at London's Guildhall School of Music and Drama. His studies paid off when he won a role in Hanif Kureshi's film, London Kills Me.

In 1993 Andrews was nominated by the Evening Standard Drama Awards as Most Promising Newcomer for his part in Wild West. His big break occurred when he was cast in the Oscar-winning film The English Patient. He then went on to appear in such films as Kama Sutra, Mighty Joe Young, True Love and Chaos, Rollerball and Drowning on Dry Land. He will also be seen in the upcoming Bride and Prejudice, directed by Gurinder Chadha for Miramax Pictures.

On television his starring performance in Chippendale Murders was highly acclaimed, as was his work in the BBC's The Buddha of Suburbia, for which he was nominated for Best Actor at the San Remo Film Festival. He also starred in the BBC's Peacock Spring, Double Vision, The Frontier and Mira Nair's My Own Country.

Andrerws enjoys playing the guitar, composing and reading. He resides in Los Angeles with his partner, Barbara Hershey. He has one son, Jaisal.


Harold Perrineau Michael The guy who lost his sons dog

An accomplished actor who has graced the stage, screen, and television, Harold Perrineau has earned a well-deserved reputation as a performer willing to take on any role.

Perrineau recently starred on stage in Suzan Lori Parks' 2001 Pulitzer Prize-winning play, Topdog/Underdog. On the big screen, he was featured in The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions, as well as The Best Man. For this role he received an Image Award nomination for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture. Additionally, he received an Independent Spirit Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor for his portrayal of Rashid Cole in Wayne Wang's critically acclaimed feature, Smoke.

His other feature film credits include Woman on Top, Baz Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet, Lulu on the Bridge and The Edge.

On television Perrineau is best known for his role as the wheelchair bound Augustus Hill on Oz. His other television credits include a role in the TV movie An American Tempest, as well as guest appearances on ER, Law & Order and The Cosby Show.

Perrineau began his career in theatre, where he acted in a number of plays, including Dreamgirls, the critically acclaimed Avenue X, the Off-Broadway revival of Godspell and The Love of Bullets at the Public Theater. Most recently he garnered critical acclaim in Joe Penhall's Blue/Orange, where he starred as a young man who received the diagnosis of a borderline personality disorder.

A native of Brooklyn, Perrineau studied music and theatre at the Shenandoah Conservatory. He also studied on scholarship at the Alvin Ailey Company.



Josh Holloway Sawyer The guy that looks liek a killer

Josh Holloway was born in Northern California but moved after only two years to the Blue Ridge Mountains of Georgia, where he was raised the second-eldest of four boys. From an early age he discovered a passion and love for films. After one year at the University of Georgia, he embarked on a successful modeling career which took him all over Europe and North America.

Holloway's pursuit of acting brought him to Los Angeles, where he soon landed a role in the comedy Doctor Benny. He followed that up with lead roles in the independent films Mi Amigo, Moving August and Cold Heart. He then gained considerable notice for his lead role in the Sci-Fi channel's Sabretooth. Most recently he guest starred on CSI and Navy NCIS.

Holloway's hobbies include boating, sailing, snowboarding, martial arts, motor cross and playing guitar. He currently resides in Los Angeles



Terry O'Quinn Locke the bald crippled guy

Terry O'Quinn's impressive gallery of film and television characters includes many diverse roles. He rose to prominence as the outwardly gentle but actually maniacal master of the house in Joseph Ruben's chilling The Stepfather. Though he went on to play leads in other films like Prisoners of the Sun and The Forgotten One, his weight was more effectively felt in supporting roles such as Howard Hughes in Disney's The Rocketeer.

Other feature film credits include Old School, The X-Files: Fight the Future, Primal Fear, Ghosts of Mississippi, Tombstone, Blind Fury, Young Guns, Black Widow, Heaven's Gate and Places in the Heart.

On television O'Quinn had starring roles in Millennium and Harsh Realm, with recurring roles on The West Wing, Alias and Jag. He has guest starred on Law & Order: Criminal Intent, The X Files and Roswell.

On Broadway O'Quinn appeared in Foxfire and Curse of the Aching Heart, and Off-Broadway in Richard III.



Daniel Dae Kim Jin
Daniel Dae Kim has been steadily building a successful career in film, television and on stage. Over the past two seasons Kim has been seen recurring on 24, and on ER. He also played attorney Gavin Park on Angel, as well as appearing on numerous shows as a guest star.

He recently wrapped production on the action film Cave. This summer he was also seen in Spider-Man 2.

Kim, who earned an M.F.A. degree in acting from NYU's Tisch School of the Arts, continues to work on stage in Los Angeles and New York. He has performed in plays from Shakespeare to Beckett to improv comedy. Recently he optioned the rights to the Leonard Chang novel, Over the Shoulder. The project is currently in development to become an independent feature.


Yunjin Kim Sun

An accomplished actress who has already made a name for herself in Korea — and all over Asia with the film Shiri — Yunjin Kim is making her mark on American television with Lost.

Kim was bashful as a kid, so she decided to get over her shyness by taking drama classes in the seventh grade. She was immediately cast in a musical and fell in love with the theatre.

Her Korean feature film credits include starring roles in Ardor, Yesterday, Iron Palm, Ginko Bed 2 and the Japanese film, Rush, as well as roles in the television weekend dramas With Love and Wedding Dress, and the miniseries Hunch and Beautiful Vacation.

Kim was the Goodwill Ambassador for the 2002 World Cup in Japan and Korea, representing Korea. While born in Seoul, Korea, she grew up in Staten Island, New York. She attended the prestigious High School of Performing Arts in New York and received her BFA in acting from Boston University.

Kim resides in South Korea with the love of her life — her 14-year-old dog, Tobi.



Emilie de Ravin Claire the blonde chick

Emilie (pronounced Emily) de Ravin first garnered the attention of international audiences with her performance on the popular television series Beastmaster: The Legend Continues. Within one month of moving to Los Angeles from her home in South Melbourne, Australia, she landed the series regular role of Tess Harding on Roswell. Soon after, she starred in the television remake of Stephen King's classic horror film, Carrie.

Emilie recently finished shooting the lead role in the feature film Santa's Slay. In addition she recently completed work on the film Brick. She also recurred on the series The Handler.

Emilie's rising stardom is based upon many years of performance experience and intensive training. She has studied ballet since the age of nine. At the age of 15 she was accepted into the prestigious and highly selective Australian Ballet School. She performed in productions of the Australian Ballet Company, as well as Danceworld 301.

Vlad The Impaler
10-14-2004, 05:01 AM
Naveen Andrews Sayid The guy who looks like a terrorist

Uh uh. Interesting. So having middle-eastern type is "looking like a terrorist"

:shakehead

Troy McClure
10-14-2004, 07:59 AM
Uh uh. Interesting. So having middle-eastern type is "looking like a terrorist"
It's not just looking middle-eastern. It's looking like an intelligent guy who could kick some ass.

Think abou the movie True Lies. You had the non-threatening middle-eastern guy who worked for the good guys. He was kinda dorky and pretty much a generic guy. On the other hand, the badguy had that "looking like a terrorist" thing down because he had a mean and powerful look about him with an imposing voice. You know he could kick some ass in the name of Allah/money.

Troy McClure
10-14-2004, 08:01 AM
Any one else get the feeling that they're all dead? The show last night was the first I've seen. You saw the old guy walk around and face his fears when in the end you find out he was paralyzed. Sounds like we're going to have a show focusing on each character.

Shane
10-14-2004, 10:03 AM
Any one else get the feeling that they're all dead? The show last night was the first I've seen. You saw the old guy walk around and face his fears when in the end you find out he was paralyzed. Sounds like we're going to have a show focusing on each character.

I thought that too for a while, but I read an interview with the director where he specifically stated that they're not dead.

I'm leaning towards some sort of "Philadelphia Experiment"-type situation myself. Some dude posted a plausible theory on another site that revolved around it.

Chaos
10-14-2004, 10:49 AM
cocke addict

:D

Shane
10-14-2004, 11:03 AM
:D

Gotta love Leaf Lander.

HABitual
10-14-2004, 11:10 AM
Gotta love Leaf Lander.

Better to be a terrotist than a Leafs fan ;)

think-blue-
10-14-2004, 11:25 AM
I thought that too for a while, but I read an interview with the director where he specifically stated that they're not dead.

I'm leaning towards some sort of "Philadelphia Experiment"-type situation myself. Some dude posted a plausible theory on another site that revolved around it.
Agreed. Knowing the creator (from having watched Alias), it wont be as simple as them being dead.

1Timer
10-14-2004, 03:04 PM
I watched last night for the first time and thought the show was interesting. A little odd, but interesting.

Does anyone know where I could find a decent plot synapsis for the first one? I think we have the second on tape.

Leaf Lander
10-14-2004, 03:11 PM
Uh uh. Interesting. So having middle-eastern type is "looking like a terrorist"

:shakehead


where i live we have white celtic scotish frnech irish english with a few families that are swede and a fewthat are polish rusian ukraine soem northern italian a few black and jews with a few docs that are hindu. I am nto racist I just liveon an island im sure they are not all terrorist but he is on a show where a plane crashed.....

so the mid east person is not kind of peron i have meet in real life il lsaythis many mid east woman are exotic and hot looking.:D

I am spreading love :yo:

ACC1224
11-02-2004, 12:13 PM
CTV aired the 1st 2 episodes last night but didn't say when they would show the others. Episode 6 is Wednesday, does anyone know if they will be showing the other 3 episodes so we can catch up?

Roughneck
11-02-2004, 12:36 PM
CTV aired the 1st 2 episodes last night but didn't say when they would show the others. Episode 6 is Wednesday, does anyone know if they will be showing the other 3 episodes so we can catch up?

If they don't, I bet you will all be 'lost' when watching episode 6.

ACC1224
11-02-2004, 12:49 PM
If they don't, I bet you will all be 'lost' when watching episode 6.

Thats the fear. Probably won't bother watching if that's the case.

Ronnie Bass
11-11-2004, 09:05 PM
When the show first came out that Sawyer character was quite annoying, mostly becasue it looked nothing but a cliched part for a pretty actor to fill. But last night this Sawyer dude was downright scary and fascinating from the first minute to the last as was Jack's.

This show is really turning out to be alot of fun and I can't wait for the next episode.




Note to all: I know there is a a thread on this but it's been days since I've seen it, and I don't feel like digging through the lounge just to give it a bump, so I started this one. If someone wants to track it down and merge with this me, go nuts.

Bud The Spud*
11-11-2004, 10:36 PM
I love the show. I didn't see the first few episodes so I missed out on where they were supposed to be going and probably a lot of other stuff too....

Ronnie Bass
11-11-2004, 10:40 PM
I love the show. I didn't see the first few episodes so I missed out on where they were supposed to be going and probably a lot of other stuff too....

Then you missed the monster in the woods then, that was great stuff, it scared me good. Don't worry, I'm sure they will play them all again.

Bud The Spud*
11-11-2004, 10:41 PM
Then you missed the monster in the woods then, that was great stuff, it scared me good. Don't worry, I'm sure they will play them all again.

Hopefully, I want to see what I missed out on.

Ronnie Bass
11-11-2004, 10:48 PM
Hopefully, I want to see what I missed out on.

The great way they did it too was not let ever see the creative because the sound was scary by itself, so they could off showing the creature which that in itself also makes it more spooky.

I love that **** and it's going to play out all this year and maybe beyond that. :yo:

jfont
11-11-2004, 10:57 PM
Note to all: I know there is a a thread on this but it's been days since I've seen it, and I don't feel like digging through the lounge just to give it a bump, so I started this one. If someone wants to track it down and merge with this me, go nuts.
must i do everything for ya?

tsk, tsk... :shakehead

Bud The Spud*
11-11-2004, 10:59 PM
must i do everything for ya?

tsk, tsk... :shakehead

Someone seems to be in a pissy mood. ;)

Ronnie Bass
11-11-2004, 11:01 PM
must i do everything for ya?

tsk, tsk... :shakehead

You mean my powers extend into the lounge?? :banana:

Leaf Lander
11-12-2004, 12:24 AM
update on the show

they are still lost

i wonder if the island is in the shape of a boat

when will the pigs head be mounted on the beach?

remidn me of lord of the flies a lil cept that they are all adults

Ronnie Bass
11-12-2004, 12:26 AM
update on the show

they are still lost

i wonder if the island is in the shape of a boat

when will the pigs head be mounted on the beach?

remidn me of lord of the flies a lil cept that they are all adults

You forgot the kid funnyman. :D

jfont
11-12-2004, 01:18 AM
You mean my powers extend into the lounge?? :banana:
LOL! no silly...the search function...

The Tang
11-12-2004, 08:49 AM
the last few episodes havent been that great. i dont think there has been anything mysterious abou the island shown since the polar bear. i'm starting to lose interest pretty quick now.

WalterSobchak
11-22-2004, 12:25 PM
I like that this show is written "smartly"

I had similar issues with people surviving the plane crash, Sayeed's comment a few episodes ago "we should not have survived" totally got me further hooked. The mystery of the island can still keep us thinking literally and metaphorically.

This is currently the only show on right now that has me addicted.

Bud The Spud*
11-22-2004, 12:28 PM
I missed part of the show last week. Who was that strange woman Sayeed met up with?

jacketracket*
11-22-2004, 12:28 PM
You mean my powers extend into the lounge?? :banana:You are now omnipotent. :eek:

WalterSobchak
11-22-2004, 12:33 PM
I missed part of the show last week. Who was that strange woman Sayeed met up with?

the French Woman from the message. She crashed on the island with an explorer team returning from Antartica (I believe) the episode was quite cryptic, lots of talk about "others" that she thought Sayeed was from. Sounds like the rest of the people she was with went crazy, wanting to (leave/go to the others?) so she killed them.

Including a child she had named Alex? (although at the beginning of the show, she was torturing Sayeed, asking "where's Alex?") Woman is nuts.

Bud The Spud*
11-22-2004, 12:36 PM
the French Woman from the message. She crashed on the island with an explorer team returning from Antartica (I believe) the episode was quite cryptic, lots of talk about "others" that she thought Sayeed was from. Sounds like the rest of the people she was with went crazy, wanting to (leave/go to the others?) so she killed them.

Including a child she had named Alex? (although at the beginning of the show, she was torturing Sayeed, asking "where's Alex?") Woman is nuts.

Thanks. I didn't see the first few episodes of the show when the plane crashed and stuff. Now I wish I would have. I'm really into it.

WalterSobchak
11-22-2004, 01:58 PM
Thanks. I didn't see the first few episodes of the show when the plane crashed and stuff. Now I wish I would have. I'm really into it.

It has been surprisingly good. I was ready to give up on it after the pilot episode and the 2nd episode as well...glad I stuck with it.

Also she was going on and on about "voices in the forest" which at the end of the ep sounded as if Sayeed was hearing them.

Were you watching when she told Sayeed to "watch closely" to the people he was returning to...I suppose implying that they will go nuts, as her group did.

It may still flop on the reveleation of everything, but for now it has me hooked.

Bud The Spud*
11-22-2004, 02:02 PM
Were you watching when she told Sayeed to "watch closely" to the people he was returning to...I suppose implying that they will go nuts, as her group did.

Yep, I saw it. People are bound to start going crazy in a situation like that.

Ar-too
11-22-2004, 03:15 PM
My wife and I love this show. This is the only show that we really try to watch on a regular basis.

I mocked her for watching it at first and then I started watching with her and got hooked. Lost rules!

Shane
11-22-2004, 06:39 PM
Yep, I saw it. People are bound to start going crazy in a situation like that.

Well, yeah, one would have to assume that. But the French woman referred to it as a sickness. So I'm assuming there's some sort of virus or something that makes you go crazy.

WalterSobchak
11-22-2004, 06:47 PM
that's right, a sickness. I kinda assumed that she was just nuts and thought everyone was sick...but considering that is what they are pushing hard...she is probably the sane one.

Leaf Lander
11-22-2004, 07:54 PM
missed last few episides cause my days off chancged:D


anything new

Shane
12-01-2004, 08:10 PM
I don't know how, but they keep consistently topping the previous episode.

Very creepy episode tonight. I guess the lesson we can all learn from this: Don't trust Canadians.

Bud The Spud*
12-01-2004, 08:12 PM
I missed it tonight. :banghead: Did I miss anything important?

Rabid Ranger
12-01-2004, 08:15 PM
I don't know how, but they keep consistently topping the previous episode.

Very creepy episode tonight. I guess the lesson we can all learn from this: Don't trust Canadians.


At least those from Ontario. Tonight's episode reminded me of The X-Files.

Shane
12-01-2004, 08:22 PM
I missed it tonight. :banghead: Did I miss anything important?

Spoilers:

Claire (the pregnant girl) has recurring nightmares about being attacked. Hurley goes around and tries to get everyone's name to see if they can figure out who's doing it. He gets the plane's manifest, and fights out one guy, Ethan (from Ontario), isn't on the passenger list. Sayid returns, and warns the others that they're not alone on the island. Creepy Ethan guy kidnaps Claire and Charlie. Overall super creepy episode.

Bud The Spud*
12-01-2004, 08:26 PM
Spoilers:

Claire (the pregnant girl) has recurring nightmares about being attacked. Hurley goes around and tries to get everyone's name to see if they can figure out who's doing it. He gets the plane's manifest, and fights out one guy, Ethan (from Ontario), isn't on the passenger list. Sayid returns, and warns the others that they're not alone on the island. Creepy Ethan guy kidnaps Claire and Charlie. Overall super creepy episode.

Thanks. Sounds like I missed a good episode.

Leaf Lander
12-02-2004, 12:41 AM
I don't know how, but they keep consistently topping the previous episode.

Very creepy episode tonight. I guess the lesson we can all learn from this: Don't trust Canadians.


anti-canada slight?

Shane
12-02-2004, 02:48 AM
anti-canada slight?

Considering I was born in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, and raised in Revelstoke, British Columbia, and have never set foot off Canadian soil in my entire life, I don't think I, or anyone I know would consider me "anti-Canadian".

Next time I'll include a winking smiley and a disclaimer so the joke doesn't fly over your head.

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 12:11 PM
SPOILERS BE HERE, so if you don't like them, restrain yourself

great episode, I am not sure if they guy is in fact from Canada...there have been so many people admitting to lying about their name "my name's not even Hurley man, that's just my nickname because I hate my real name. Why? I'm not telling." I have the feeling that Ethan may be from the French woman's party...maybe they didn't all die.

This show is very detail oriented. Unlike so many tv shows out there that do not bother to explain those mundane detail. Over-all a very creepy episode indeed (did anyone else notice that Locke didn't look too pleased that Sayeed had returned...and was hovering very close to that conversation) but I hope that they begin to explain things soon...they truly can't drag this on forever and keep their audience.

They need to throw us a bone. Hopefully sooner than later.

Ronnie Bass
12-02-2004, 12:20 PM
I don't know how, but they keep consistently topping the previous episode.

Very creepy episode tonight. I guess the lesson we can all learn from this: Don't trust Canadians.

The funny thing too is that it started off real slow and I was thinking to myself "ahhh looks like a weak episode", but then it just picked up out of nowhere and like you said topped the previous weeks easily. Great show so far, I know that because I can't wait for next weeks, and that's a good indicator for me.

And oh by the way, now that showed what Claire looks like not pregnant:

Claire>>>>>>>>>>>>Kate

soya_sauce_chicken
12-02-2004, 12:31 PM
i'm thinking that Ethan maybe the French woman's son.. remember how she keeps asking Syid where her son is? whatever the name is. i'm thinking it's him.. great episode.. loved it.. can't wait for next weeks..

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 12:38 PM
i'm thinking that Ethan maybe the French woman's son.. remember how she keeps asking Syid where her son is? whatever the name is. i'm thinking it's him.. great episode.. loved it.. can't wait for next weeks..

yeah, the French woman asking for Alex. Did she say her son, because I thought she just was asking for Alex...and that name could go either way...

Shane
12-02-2004, 12:39 PM
The funny thing too is that it started off real slow and I was thinking to myself "ahhh looks like a weak episode", but then it just picked up out of nowhere and like you said topped the previous weeks easily. Great show so far, I know that because I can't wait for next weeks, and that's a good indicator for me.

And oh by the way, now that showed what Claire looks like not pregnant:

Claire>>>>>>>>>>>>Kate

No, it's more like:
Claire>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kate

The Aussie accent really does it for me.

Ronnie Bass
12-02-2004, 12:40 PM
i'm thinking that Ethan maybe the French woman's son.. remember how she keeps asking Syid where her son is? whatever the name is. i'm thinking it's him.. great episode.. loved it.. can't wait for next weeks..

I was also wonder if they somehow have a connection to the Psychic, since he knew about what would happen maybe he knew about Ethan and the french lady and hand delivered the baby to them.

Also did anybody pickup on the fact that if the Psychic knew that the only way to ensure that the baby is raised by Claire is to crash on a deserted island, wouldn't that show he knows that they won't get off? I mean if he knows so much on what is going to happen.......

Ronnie Bass
12-02-2004, 12:42 PM
yeah, the French woman asking for Alex. Did she say her son, because I thought she just was asking for Alex...and that name could go either way...
....or maybe he changed his name. But the ladies son would only be in his early or mid twenties, this guy Ethan looked closer to 40 and since the french lady didn't look more than 50, I can't see them being mother and son.

Shane
12-02-2004, 12:42 PM
I was also wonder if they somehow have a connection to the Psychic, since he knew about what would happen maybe he knew about Ethan and the french lady and hand delivered the baby to them.

Also did anybody pickup on the fact that if the Psychic knew that the only way to ensure that the baby is raised by Claire is to crash on a deserted island, wouldn't that show he knows that they won't get off? I mean if he knows so much on what is going to happen.......

Not necessarily, maybe he knows that by being on the island with her child after it's birth, she'd bond with it, and when they do get off, she keeps the child. Or something.

Anyway, the first season will cover the first 40 days on the island. I don't see them getting off anytime within that period.

Ronnie Bass
12-02-2004, 12:45 PM
Not necessarily, maybe he knows that by being on the island with her child after it's birth, she'd bond with it, and when they do get off, she keeps the child. Or something.


That's a very valid theory because I also thought about that possibility too.

Shane
12-02-2004, 12:52 PM
That's a very valid theory because I also thought about that possibility too.

I've been considering putting myself in a week-long, self-induced coma. Because honestly, waiting a whole week is excruciatingly difficult.

This is downright cruel and unusual.

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 12:56 PM
I've been considering putting myself in a week-long, self-induced coma. Because honestly, waiting a whole week is excruciatingly difficult.

This is downright cruel and unusual.

totally...the 2 week span felt bad...but this feels worse.

the benefit of not watching tv and purchasing/renting complete seasons on dvd.

soya_sauce_chicken
12-02-2004, 01:10 PM
yea, i was thinking the same thing that he knew it so she can give birth and bond with the child and not want to give it up.
it's true about that the guy looks old and stuff, but we all know how t.v. can change everything...
btw, he is tom cruise's cousin from what i heard..

ACC1224
12-02-2004, 01:11 PM
i'm thinking that Ethan maybe the French woman's son.. remember how she keeps asking Syid where her son is? whatever the name is. i'm thinking it's him.. great episode.. loved it.. can't wait for next weeks..

he seemed too clean cut for someone stranded for 15 years. Either that or the Island has a great Barber shop!

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 01:17 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0544611/ (IMDB)

IMDB confirms that they are cousins. Do not do too much research on the actor, unless you want some potential spoilers for example it lists the # of episodes he is in. Which could mean many things but there is another actor, who seems like a main character, who is only listed as a guest star and the # of episodes they are in is listed

you are forwarned...it ruined a little of the suspence for me.

soya_sauce_chicken
12-02-2004, 01:23 PM
he seemed too clean cut for someone stranded for 15 years. Either that or the Island has a great Barber shop!
c'mon now..
everyone on the island is clean cut... LOL
they all have 5 0'clock shadows ;)

Shane
12-02-2004, 01:24 PM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0544611/ (IMDB)

IMDB confirms that they are cousins. Do not do too much research on the actor, unless you want some potential spoilers for example it lists the # of episodes he is in. Which could mean many things but there is another actor, who seems like a main character, who is only listed as a guest star and the # of episodes they are in is listed

you are forwarned...it ruined a little of the suspence for me.

Actually, if you're referring to Claire, she's only listed as a "guest-star" because the budget for the show only allows for a certain number of "stars", so putting Claire as a "guest-star" was the producer's way of getting around that. I suspect she'll lose the "guest-star" tag after the show kills off it's first regular. Which is gonna happen, you know it will.

http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=48.0

The guy using the name "Fury" is one of the show's writers, David Fury, so his information is accurate.

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 01:37 PM
Actually, if you're referring to Claire, she's only listed as a "guest-star" because the budget for the show only allows for a certain number of "stars", so putting Claire as a "guest-star" was the producer's way of getting around that. I suspect she'll lose the "guest-star" tag after the show kills off it's first regular. Which is gonna happen, you know it will.

http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=48.0

The guy using the name "Fury" is one of the show's writers, David Fury, so his information is accurate.
SPOILERS
yeah, but if you check out Emilie de Ravin's (Claire) imdb, last nights episode was the last one listed for her. Is she just missing for the rest of the season then?

Shane
12-02-2004, 01:42 PM
SPOILERS
yeah, but if you check out Emilie de Ravin's (Claire) imdb, last nights episode was the last one listed for her. Is she just missing for the rest of the season then?

Spoilers (but not really)

Well, she might not be in next week's episode, but after that, the list is hardly accurate. IMDB is fan-run, and usually only knows about as much as we do. If you look ahead past the next episode, only one guest is listed for each of the upcoming episodes, but there'll obviously be more than that. They don't even know the titles of episodes 11 and 12. But I know the title of episode 11. Because I'm special.

WalterSobchak
12-02-2004, 01:53 PM
fair enough.

game-set-and match

Shane
12-02-2004, 01:59 PM
fair enough.

game-set-and match

Now, if you want to know about upcoming episodes:

Possible Spoilers:

Episode 11: All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues
Additional Information: This appears to be a Jack-centric episode (c/o David Fury at The Fuselage).

Episode 12: The Case
Additional Information: This appears to be a Kate-centric episode (c/o David Fury at The Fuselage). Casting calls went out for the following roles:

JASON - MALE / 30 TO 30 / NICE CO-STAR
A gruffly handsome guy from New Mexico. He is not a model citizen.

ARYE - Co-Star / MALE / 28 TO 38 / Hasidic Jewish
Has an attitude. He is questioned by LAPD as a possible suspect who was fleeing thru the airport dressed as Santa - he is handcuffed and taken away kicking and screaming.

Episode 13: Hearts and Minds
Additional Information: This appears to be a Boone/Shannon-centric episode, told from Shannon's POV (c/o David Fury at The Fuselage). Casting calls went out for the following roles:

BRYAN - Guest Star / MALE / 35 TO 40
Required Skills - Dialects: Australian. Handsome, charming, lives in Sydney and must either be authentic Aussie or must be able to do an impeccable Aussie accent.

MALCOLM - Co-Star / MALE / 30 TO 39
Required Skills - Dialects: Australian. Police officer in Sydney, must either be authentic Aussie or be able to do an impeccable Aussie accent.

Episode 14: (currently untitled)
Additional Information: This appears to be a Michael/Walt-centric episode (c/o David Fury at The Fuselage).

Leaf Lander
12-02-2004, 05:08 PM
Considering I was born in Lloydminster, Saskatchewan, and raised in Revelstoke, British Columbia, and have never set foot off Canadian soil in my entire life, I don't think I, or anyone I know would consider me "anti-Canadian".

Next time I'll include a winking smiley and a disclaimer so the joke doesn't fly over your head.


i ment the show man :lol

i didnt see it besudes i got the worse head flu agh sunuses are flowing a river of bacterial mucus out of my nose and throat :yo:

WalterSobchak
12-08-2004, 01:40 PM
Evangaline Lilly is hotter than Emile de Ravin
(aka Bump)

think-blue-
12-08-2004, 01:42 PM
Evangaline Lilly is hotter than Emile de Ravin
(aka Bump)
All 3 of them are hot :teach: (Shannon, Kate and Claire)

Can't wait for tonights episode, although ive read (some) spoilers.

WalterSobchak
12-08-2004, 01:59 PM
I started reading spoilers around 1.3, but it started to take away from watching...so I stopped. Just gonna enjoy the ride.

MontrealCruiser_83*
12-08-2004, 07:52 PM
I really don't like what they did with the end of this episode.

think-blue-
12-08-2004, 08:01 PM
I really don't like what they did with the end of this episode.
How so? The cliffhanger aspect?

The only thing bad is that we have to wait until Jan to find out what happens next. :rant:

Bud The Spud*
12-08-2004, 08:01 PM
I am really glad they are showing the first 2 episodes next week. I never did see the beginning.

MontrealCruiser_83*
12-08-2004, 08:14 PM
How so? The cliffhanger aspect?

The only thing bad is that we have to wait until Jan to find out what happens next. :rant:
(Spoiler if you didn't watch tonights episode)

Oh please, Jack was punching him for a good minute or so out of frustration and Charley just magically wakes up?

Form and Substance
12-08-2004, 08:16 PM
I know what you mean, but it definitely fooled me for awhile.

think-blue-
12-08-2004, 08:24 PM
(Spoiler if you didn't watch tonights episode)

Oh please, Jack was punching him for a good minute or so out of frustration and Charley just magically wakes up?

Written in white:


Meh. It was good tv at least :p: I really did think he was dead until he (Jack) came back the second time.

Remember, this is a show where Locke magically doesn't need a wheelchair anymore...dont think there should be complaints about whats realistic or not.

Ronnie Bass
12-08-2004, 09:50 PM
(Spoiler if you didn't watch tonights episode)

Oh please, Jack was punching him for a good minute or so out of frustration and Charley just magically wakes up?

I agree, they should have left Charlie dead, they are way due for somebody to die. And this would have been the perfect time.

WalterSobchak
12-09-2004, 11:03 AM
The end of the episode is inevitable. It is a JJ Abrams project. Anyone who watches Alias (I don't actually watch the show that often, but my wife watches it religiously) knows that 95% of all episodes end with a cliffhanger. I was actually surprised that a part of the cliffhanger was not whether or not Charlie lived.

I almost killed myself laughing when Boone started talking about Star Trek...those were exactly my thoughts when he split off to go with Locke and Jack and Kate went off together. Had a feeling that Boone wasn't coming back. Locke's retort about Kirk being a piss poor captain was f***ing funny too.

The best parts of the entire episode for me were Said and Sawyer's confrontation (truly thought he was going to start bootstomping Said) and Hurley's backgammon game with the boy (crap, can never remember his name)

The best part of this entire show is that all of the characters have skeletons in the closet, none of them really trust each other. All of them are fallible and not a single one of them is truly a good person.

The thing that irritates me the most is that Abrams has a way of dragging plotlines forever. Again, any fan of Alias can attest to this...in season 4, they are still digging around plots that began in season 1. Exciting and addicing but really annoying.

Shane
12-09-2004, 11:28 AM
The end of the episode is inevitable. It is a JJ Abrams project. Anyone who watches Alias (I don't actually watch the show that often, but my wife watches it religiously) knows that 95% of all episodes end with a cliffhanger. I was actually surprised that a part of the cliffhanger was not whether or not Charlie lived.

I almost killed myself laughing when Boone started talking about Star Trek...those were exactly my thoughts when he split off to go with Locke and Jack and Kate went off together. Had a feeling that Boone wasn't coming back. Locke's retort about Kirk being a piss poor captain was f***ing funny too.

The best parts of the entire episode for me were Said and Sawyer's confrontation (truly thought he was going to start bootstomping Said) and Hurley's backgammon game with the boy (crap, can never remember his name)

The best part of this entire show is that all of the characters have skeletons in the closet, none of them really trust each other. All of them are fallible and not a single one of them is truly a good person.

The thing that irritates me the most is that Abrams has a way of dragging plotlines forever. Again, any fan of Alias can attest to this...in season 4, they are still digging around plots that began in season 1. Exciting and addicing but really annoying.

I could have told you Boone would live. Episode 13 is a Boone/Shannon flashback episode, so he's gotta live until at least then.

Personally, I was shocked that they'd decide to kill off Charlie. But then they wussed out and brought him back. Grow some balls JJ. If this wasn't the greatest show currently on television, I'd have to stop watching it.

WalterSobchak
12-09-2004, 12:36 PM
I could have told you Boone would live. Episode 13 is a Boone/Shannon flashback episode, so he's gotta live until at least then.


except I don't want to know spoilers. And who is to say that Boone doesn't die and only Shannon is having the flashback episode? People can die and appear in flashback episodes.

:D

I already ruined this ep because last week I was checking out promotional pictures from this episode and saw a few pictures of Charlie, with Kate and Jack huddled around him...Charlie looking very sad.

kinda blew the suspense so from here on out...I am gonna try and go spoiler free. Conjecture is still ok, but spoilers are right out.\

:teach:

soya_sauce_chicken
12-09-2004, 12:50 PM
I agree, they should have left Charlie dead, they are way due for somebody to die. And this would have been the perfect time.
yes, that made me upset as well..
i told my brother that if that were real, then anyone can revive someone if they are strangled to death...
that was a big disappointment

WalterSobchak
12-09-2004, 04:20 PM
TVTome (http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/#news)

December 08, 2004

Lost Goes Lost

With ABC landing an unexpected hit with the show, the network has quickly realized that 13 episodes just aren't enough. The standard mentality over the past few years with ABC was to give shows 13 at the start of a season and see what happens, as previously done with Push, Nevada, L.A. Dragnet, and Stephen King's Kingdom Hospital. If the show fails, it's canned within 6 (unless under contract like Kingdom Hospital).

What does this mean for Lost? Well, in order to fuel the fire they have going for them, they need more episodes, and they need time to film them. So for those of you who haven't seen the entire series so far, this is your lucky time of year as the show goes on temporary hiatus. Starting December 15th, the show will rerun from the Pilot (in full), and continue down the line until the target date of February. From there, they'll start with Episode 11 called "Whatever The Case May Be" and finish out the season on time in May with however many episodes they decide to finish off the season with.


Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

Bud The Spud*
12-09-2004, 04:22 PM
So no new shows till February? :dunno:

Shane
12-09-2004, 04:25 PM
So no new shows till February? :dunno:

That's the first news article that says February. Every other one I've read states the series will resume in January.

WalterSobchak
12-09-2004, 04:39 PM
That's the first news article that says February. Every other one I've read states the series will resume in January.

It sounds like they are going to rebroacast most (if not the entire) season.

:dunno:

Gee Wally
12-09-2004, 06:47 PM
It sounds like they are going to rebroacast most (if not the entire) season.

:dunno:


I thought I read somewhere that they only went with about a half dozen episodes to see if ABC would commit to it. The commitment came a few weeks ago ...so back to filming I guess.

Ronnie Bass
12-09-2004, 08:29 PM
TVTome (http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/#news)




Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

What? That's good news as I see it, I mean yeah we won't have anymore shows for a couple months but when they do come back it sounds like they will have a whole bunch to watch.

Shane
12-10-2004, 07:24 AM
It sounds like they are going to rebroacast most (if not the entire) season.

:dunno:

Yeah, but without the Bachelor, they can (and will) show two episodes every Wednesday.

Lost will be back January 7th or 14th. Mark my words. ;)

Shane
12-22-2004, 08:56 PM
Yeah, but without the Bachelor, they can (and will) show two episodes every Wednesday.

Lost will be back January 7th or 14th. Mark my words. ;)

Er, okay, I was a little off because I was looking at a January 2004 calender instead of 2005, but I still nailed the general time.

LOST RETURNS JANUARY 5TH, 2005 WITH NEW EPISODES!!!!

Ronnie Bass
12-22-2004, 09:16 PM
Er, okay, I was a little off because I was looking at a January 2004 calender instead of 2005, but I still nailed the general time.

LOST RETURNS JANUARY 5TH, 2005 WITH NEW EPISODES!!!!
:banana:

WalterSobchak
12-30-2004, 11:37 AM
Evangeline Lilly is still hot

aka bumpalicious.

FlyersGuy69
12-30-2004, 11:54 AM
I wasn't able to watch before because of work but I am catching up on it now...thanks to direct tivo.


BTW, how long is this series going to be?

HABitual
12-30-2004, 12:07 PM
I wasn't able to watch before because of work but I am catching up on it now...thanks to direct tivo.


BTW, how long is this series going to be?

It is getting good ratings so hopefully it will be around for a while.

WalterSobchak
12-30-2004, 12:44 PM
It is getting good ratings so hopefully it will be around for a while.

but not too long...if I get Lost:The Next Generation, heads are going to effing roll!

:madfire:

Shane
01-05-2005, 06:48 PM
New episode is on in about ten minutes for those who forgot.

HABitual
01-05-2005, 06:56 PM
New episode is on in about ten minutes for those who forgot.

I didn't forget :D

I am also looking forward to Alias season premiere right after the show :yo:

Two cool shows back to back!

Shane
01-05-2005, 07:05 PM
Oh man, just watching that made me want to vomit.

think-blue-
01-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Oh man, just watching that made me want to vomit.
Are you talking about The dead bodies? (underwater)

I missed the very beginning of the show...(first 1-2 minutes)

Shane
01-05-2005, 08:01 PM
Are you talking about The dead bodies? (underwater)

I missed the very beginning of the show...(first 1-2 minutes)

Yeah. Swimming with corpses. Sounds like a grand ol' time.

Shane
01-05-2005, 08:12 PM
I'm not kidding when I say this show is going to drive me to murder someone. I don't know who, or why, but someone will die. Oh yes, they will.

Yzerlady
01-05-2005, 08:50 PM
I'm not kidding when I say this show is going to drive me to murder someone. I don't know who, or why, but someone will die. Oh yes, they will.

Haha, I know what you mean. The ending's are sooo frustrating.

The Shannon-Boone storyline should be interesting... that whole thing today with Kate just made everything more confusing. And THAT was what was in the bank vault? I was thinking more along the lines of ...money.

Shane
01-05-2005, 08:52 PM
Haha, I know what you mean. The ending's are sooo frustrating.

The Shannon-Boone storyline should be interesting... that whole thing today with Kate just made everything more confusing. And THAT was what was in the bank vault? I was thinking more along the lines of ...money.

I think Boone is gay. A raging homosexual.

Troy McClure
01-06-2005, 07:21 AM
I've seen a few episodes, and man this show blows. They're dragging this out way too long. In a whole hour, very little happens. They need to get the plot going already.

Ronnie Bass
01-06-2005, 11:10 AM
I've seen a few episodes, and man this show blows. They're dragging this out way too long. In a whole hour, very little happens. They need to get the plot going already.
This was thier lamest episode yet, but next week looks promising with the big monster making it's return......or so it seems.

WalterSobchak
01-06-2005, 11:27 AM
I would agree this show is not for "instant gratification junkies", but I agree to an extent.

they need to keep the viewers hanging on to an extent, but every once in awhile they need a form of resolution without adding to the questions.

HABitual
01-06-2005, 11:28 AM
This was thier lamest episode yet, but next week looks promising with the big monster making it's return......or so it seems.

Well I love this show and I thought this episode was pretty good as they gave more background story about Kate and an amusing story involving Sawyer.

Ronnie Bass
01-06-2005, 11:46 AM
Well I love this show and I thought this episode was pretty good as they gave more background story about Kate and an amusing story involving Sawyer.
Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but after the brief hiatus I really thought they would come back with a better episode. Compared to the other ones this was at the bottom of the list. But even the greatest all series have their up and downs and I expect it to rebound big next week.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-06-2005, 11:49 AM
MAN... i didn't like it that much but next week should be awesome!!!

discostu
01-06-2005, 11:57 AM
Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but after the brief hiatus I really thought they would come back with a better episode. Compared to the other ones this was at the bottom of the list. But even the greatest all series have their up and downs and I expect it to rebound big next week.

Full agreeance here. I thought with the ending of the last episode before they break, they'd have a lot more plotlines to explore. You'd think with this episode, now that they are fully certain that there are others on the island (as the group found out about Ethan and the french woman last week), they'd be doing a bit more investigative work, trying to piece some of these things together. Instead, they just went about their lives, in a not-very-exciting way.

Hopefully, they'll give us some insight into what Boone and Locke are doing.

oilers_guy_eddie
01-06-2005, 12:16 PM
This is my favorite show right now, by a lot. Along with CSI (Vegas version) it's the only show I make sure I either watch or tape each week. Like other people, I thought "holy crap, this is stupid!" when the jet engine of the crashed plane was still running; I'm glad I didn't turn it off then and there.

I love the way each episode spotlights one character and reveals a bit of their background to explain what made them who they are and why they act the way they do and how it relates to their current situation. I think that the name "Lost" refers not just to being marooned, but also to things the characters might have lost in their past and might yet find through their experience on the island.

My favorite episodes so far have been the Locke episode, the Sawyer episode, and the Charlie episode. I think the weaker episodes have been the 2 Jack episodes and the 2 Kate episodes, and I think the problem is that with these being the main characters the writers feel inclined to hold back too much information about the character because there'll probably be a lot more Jack and Kate episodes later. I'm hoping they give us a Hurley episode and a Shannon episode soon.

If anything worries me about the show, it's the potential of the supernatural elements to turn it into Grade A Velveeta. I can handle a mystical place where people come to terms with their inner demons, physical and spiritual wounds are healed, and so on. (Does that sound vaguely familiar? "Boss! De Plane! De Plane!" hmm.)

But "the others" storyline has the potential to lead into a vat of molten cheddar. The "scary monster" storyline has the potential to jump the shark. The show is at its best when it's about the characters. If "the others" turn out to be scary shapeshifting clone-people from outer space, or something stupid like that, I'm going to be a sad guy. Alias went from cool to silly when it stopped being about espionage and turned into a treasure hunt for magic renaissance artifacts that hold the secrets of the universe or some crap, and Sidney turned from Spy-Chick into Tomb-Raider. I hope the creators don't make the same mistake with Lost.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-06-2005, 12:47 PM
so is the brother gay???
because if i recall hearing, the sister said, where were you? with your boyfriend??
can anyone confirm??

WalterSobchak
01-06-2005, 12:49 PM
so is the brother gay???
because if i recall hearing, the sister said, where were you? with your boyfriend??
can anyone confirm??

of course no one can confirm...they want us talking about this show.

http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=161609

soya_sauce_chicken
01-06-2005, 12:58 PM
thanks for the link.. looks like a lot of other ppl think that way as well...

MontrealCruiser_83*
01-06-2005, 01:23 PM
so is the brother gay???
because if i recall hearing, the sister said, where were you? with your boyfriend??
can anyone confirm??
If anything, she called Locke his boyfriend because they've been spending alot of time together (due to what was discovered in the last december episode). And btw, that girl is smokin' :amazed: .

WalterSobchak
01-06-2005, 01:24 PM
sadly, I am pretty sure that they are going to go there...for no good reason.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-06-2005, 02:03 PM
sadly, I am pretty sure that they are going to go there...for no good reason.
wait... so you are saying that he is going to knock out boone like in the preview and then... eeeeecccckkkk :eek:

think-blue-
01-06-2005, 02:22 PM
Alias went from cool to silly when it stopped being about espionage and turned into a treasure hunt for magic renaissance artifacts that hold the secrets of the universe or some crap, and Sidney turned from Spy-Chick into Tomb-Raider. I hope the creators don't make the same mistake with Lost.

Did you watch Alias last night? I think they did a good job of setting up the new season, and I think we'll see a lot of what we saw at the beginning of the show in terms of what made it successful - the stand alone stories and espionage stuff. JJ (the creator) has said himself that he was somewhat disappointed the way the last season had went, and made a point to fix the show for this year.

think-blue-
01-06-2005, 02:47 PM
so is the brother gay???
because if i recall hearing, the sister said, where were you? with your boyfriend??
can anyone confirm??
I think next weeks show is about Boone/Shannon. We'll probably find out then.

My guess is that he isnt gay...I think they would come up with something better than that.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-06-2005, 04:32 PM
I think next weeks show is about Boone/Shannon. We'll probably find out then.

My guess is that he isnt gay...I think they would come up with something better than that.
i wouldn't be surprised..
you got your:
white
Token Black and Asian
Middle Eastern
Fat Guy
Old Guy
need the gay guy, and throw in some Hari Krishna.. ;)

WalterSobchak
01-06-2005, 05:56 PM
wait... so you are saying that he is going to knock out boone like in the preview and then... eeeeecccckkkk :eek:

nah, Locke ain't no Nancyboy...just Boone

WalterSobchak
01-06-2005, 05:58 PM
i wouldn't be surprised..
you got your:
white
Token Black and Asian
Middle Eastern
Fat Guy
Old Guy
need the gay guy, and throw in some Hari Krishna.. ;)

and there you have another problem with modern scriptwork...gotta have your "visible minorities"(you know it is just a word) to have it mirror "Real life". fraggin studios.

GJB
01-07-2005, 11:16 PM
i wouldn't be surprised..
you got your:
white
Token Black and Asian
Middle Eastern
Fat Guy
Old Guy
need the gay guy, and throw in some Hari Krishna.. ;)

you can add:

token kid
token pet
token old lady
token hot chick (Shannon)

WalterSobchak
01-07-2005, 11:45 PM
you can add:

token kid
token pet
token old lady
token hot chick (Shannon)

I thought token hot chick was Kate...them is fighting words

Ronnie Bass
01-08-2005, 10:27 AM
I thought token hot chick was Kate...them is fighting words
Once she has the baby it's Claire, hell it's Claire now with the baby, if she's alive.

Shane
01-08-2005, 10:43 AM
Once she has the baby it's Claire, hell it's Claire now with the baby, if she's alive.

Exactly. Claire >>>>>>> Shannon > Kate.

WalterSobchak
01-08-2005, 11:42 AM
Exactly. Claire >>>>>>> Shannon > Kate.

Boo..

Shane
01-08-2005, 11:48 AM
Boo..

Boo yourself.

The G Man
01-08-2005, 02:45 PM
Help me out. My wife and I recently got into this when they replayed the pilot not too long ago. However, seems they skipped an episode or 2. In one, Sayid was going to explore the island at the end. The next one they show, he's back, the pregnant lady disappeared and there's something about some old French woman?

Help! What did I miss on that episode?

Ronnie Bass
01-08-2005, 02:59 PM
Help me out. My wife and I recently got into this when they replayed the pilot not too long ago. However, seems they skipped an episode or 2. In one, Sayid was going to explore the island at the end. The next one they show, he's back, the pregnant lady disappeared and there's something about some old French woman?

Help! What did I miss on that episode?

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/1.html

See if this helps G. I think you might be refering to epsiodes nine and ten.

Shane
01-12-2005, 05:54 PM
Wow, is it Wednesday already? Where does the time go...

soya_sauce_chicken
01-12-2005, 05:56 PM
Exactly. Claire >>>>>>> Shannon > Kate.
i don't hate.. i love them all..

think-blue-
01-12-2005, 07:56 PM
That was insane, and disgusting.

Shane
01-12-2005, 07:57 PM
Hmm... Good episode. It was about time they did that.

Yzerlady
01-12-2005, 08:00 PM
I thought Shannon was dead. I'm disappointed. :(

Shane
01-12-2005, 08:01 PM
COPOUT. I'm pissed off.

ebbhead
01-12-2005, 08:08 PM
where the hell are the previews we use to get. They are using up the space promoting crap American Idol and other s**t Canadian programming. Anybody in the states get the preview

The G Man
01-12-2005, 08:44 PM
What the *BLEEP* was that tonight??

Ronnie Bass
01-12-2005, 09:36 PM
What the *BLEEP* was that tonight??
I dunno man, that's the second time that someone's death was not to be. Like Shane said, another freakin' copout. Also the flashbacks were one of the best parts of the show and now they suck, I mean lat weeks stupid bank heist by Kate and now this incest crap between Boone and Shannon.

By the way after the brief hiatus the two shows that have followed have been IMO pretty lame, it's as if they were caught off by surprise at it's success and when ABC asked more episodes immediately that they were put together in such haste and as a result we have had this for the past two weeks.

And when is the fat man going to start losing weight, is there a Burger King on the island that they are not telling us about??

WalterSobchak
01-12-2005, 11:07 PM
where the hell are the previews we use to get. They are using up the space promoting crap American Idol and other s**t Canadian programming. Anybody in the states get the preview

I am in Canada, but I flipped channels to get the ABC channel to record Alias for the wife and I got the previews for next week.

I thought there was no previews because I was almost certain next weeks is another Repeat week, but it was advertised as new.

I only heard the first part of the preview, so I missed it, but it looks like Claire had a diary, of course Sawyer has it and it looked like Charlie and Kate confronted him about it.

Also saw Michael yelling for Walt, looking for him...and then Walt in every Island dwellers favorite bastille, a groove of bamboo. Something nasty was trying to get at him, but I will leave that to be a surprise for a weeks time.

Shane
01-13-2005, 12:21 AM
I dunno man, that's the second time that someone's death was not to be. Like Shane said, another freakin' copout. Also the flashbacks were one of the best parts of the show and now they suck, I mean lat weeks stupid bank heist by Kate and now this incest crap between Boone and Shannon.

By the way after the brief hiatus the two shows that have followed have been IMO pretty lame, it's as if they were caught off by surprise at it's success and when ABC asked more episodes immediately that they were put together in such haste and as a result we have had this for the past two weeks.

And when is the fat man going to start losing weight, is there a Burger King on the island that they are not telling us about??

The weight loss thing I can understand. They're actors, not actually stranded on an island. After filming ends for the day, he could go to Burger King. I suppose the directors could ask him to lose weight, who knows.

I actually liked last week's episode. It wasn't that bad. This week's however, was pretty much the worst so far. It wasn't doing to bad until the end, and then it just fell to s***.

Seriously, they'd better kill someone by the end of the first season here, and they ******* better not ***** out again and kill somebody like Rose, or Ethan. If it's not Jack, or Kate, or someone like that, I'm going to be very f***ing pissed off. Don't cop-out on us goddamnit.

Shane
01-13-2005, 01:46 AM
Oh man, after next week's episode, Lost goes on another three-week hiatus.

Seriously, what's the f***ing problem? I'm so unbelieveably pissed off right now.

Leaf Lander
01-13-2005, 04:02 AM
they are not goona kill off a babe

i liek the bald guys desention into madness

it is a cool trail

discostu
01-13-2005, 07:30 AM
And when is the fat man going to start losing weight, is there a Burger King on the island that they are not telling us about??

That would explain the case of the runs that he got. :)

Ronnie Bass
01-13-2005, 10:36 AM
I only heard the first part of the preview, so I missed it, but it looks like Claire had a diary, of course Sawyer has it and it looked like Charlie and Kate confronted him about it.

This whole Sawyer has got what they want and they confront him on it bit is getting a bit weary even so it involves Sawyer and is usually pretty funny.

WalterSobchak
01-13-2005, 10:40 AM
This whole Sawyer has got what they want and they confront him on it bit is getting a bit weary even so it involves Sawyer and is usually pretty funny.

if you missed the preview, it was pretty funny (to me anyways) how the hobbit goes about getting it. :lol

GJB
01-13-2005, 11:44 AM
If it's not Jack, or Kate, or someone like that, I'm going to be very f***ing pissed off. Don't cop-out on us goddamnit.

Yeah, I'm sure they are going to kill one of them.... :speechles

You have to remember it's a TV show, not a movie.... they are going to need to keep the main characters around for a long time.

GJB
01-13-2005, 11:47 AM
Last week's episode with the briefcase and Sawyer was lame IMO but this week's episode was awesome. We found out a lot of things about the characters,
the asian lady speaks english, Boone and Shannon are step siblings and possibly in love (twisted!), Boone saw Sawyer at the Police Station, and then the whole Boone - Locke angle is quite interesting.

So far I would have to say Locke is an awesome character, gets more and more mysterious all the time.

Shane
01-13-2005, 11:55 AM
Last week's episode with the briefcase and Sawyer was lame IMO but this week's episode was awesome. We found out a lot of things about the characters,
the asian lady speaks english, Boone and Shannon are step siblings and possibly in love (twisted!), Boone saw Sawyer at the Police Station, and then the whole Boone - Locke angle is quite interesting.

So far I would have to say Locke is an awesome character, gets more and more mysterious all the time.

We already knew Sun spoke English. Since like the sixth episode.

Shane
01-13-2005, 11:56 AM
Yeah, I'm sure they are going to kill one of them.... :speechles

You have to remember it's a TV show, not a movie.... they are going to need to keep the main characters around for a long time.

That's what the writers/producers have been saying since the beginning. That they'll kill off a main character. And in my mind the main chracters are Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sawyer, and Locke. Everyone else are supporting chracters.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-13-2005, 12:11 PM
i liked this episode...
i knew that it was a hallucination.. i was telling my gf after we found out she died... and she wouldn't beleive me.. becasue i was saying they are not going to kill off a main character like that...
woo hooo

WalterSobchak
01-13-2005, 01:17 PM
That's what the writers/producers have been saying since the beginning. That they'll kill off a main character. And in my mind the main chracters are Jack, Kate, Charlie, Sawyer, and Locke. Everyone else are supporting chracters.

I would say that even Charlie is a supporting character. Jack, Kate, Locke for sure. Sawyer may be debatable but he has as much weight to the show as Sayeed, possibly less. What does Charlie really bring to the show? about as much screen time and story as Michael/Walt/Boone/Hurley lately.

but that could just be my perception since he has been pretty boring since kicking the heroin.

ACC1224
01-13-2005, 02:45 PM
any theories on the hatch? ufo?

weaponomega
01-13-2005, 02:51 PM
We already knew Sun spoke English. Since like the sixth episode.


I think her husband speaks english too and doesn't want anyone to know also.

think-blue-
01-13-2005, 02:56 PM
I think her husband speaks english too and doesn't want anyone to know also.
Wouldn't be surprised. Speaking of which, that scene with Hurley was funny. "Your wife's hot!" :joker:

WalterSobchak
01-13-2005, 03:09 PM
Wouldn't be surprised. Speaking of which, that scene with Hurley was funny. "Your wife's hot!" :joker:

"Dude, you gotta pee on it. Pee on my foot!"

WalterSobchak
01-13-2005, 03:10 PM
as for the hatch, I am leaning towards underground science facility, but wouldn't put it past them to go with aliens.

and I just realized how sad and pathetic I am. when you said "any theories on the hatch" the first thing that came to mind is...What does Richard Hatch have to do with Lost?

I need to go drown my sorrows in a vat of battery acid.

weaponomega
01-13-2005, 03:12 PM
So did that guy take Claire into the hatch?

E = CH²
01-13-2005, 04:01 PM
Seriously, they'd better kill someone by the end of the first season here, and they ******* better not ***** out again and kill somebody like Rose, or Ethan. If it's not Jack, or Kate, or someone like that, I'm going to be very f***ing pissed off. Don't cop-out on us goddamnit.

What's the obsession with seeing a character die ? I don't understand the motivation. I'm not for or against a character dying, I just want to understand why it would make the show better if someone died.

Oh man, after next week's episode, Lost goes on another three-week hiatus.

Seriously, what's the f***ing problem? I'm so unbelieveably pissed off right now.

That's ABC for you...

Same crap with Alias.

At first the show was great and pre-empted a lot. Then there were so many untied plots, so many pre-emption (is that a word?), that it really made it difficult for anyone to keep on following the show.

Typical of JJ Abrams and ABC...

Shane
01-13-2005, 04:12 PM
What's the obsession with seeing a character die ? I don't understand the motivation. I'm not for or against a character dying, I just want to understand why it would make the show better if someone died.

Normally I wouldn't care, but the writers/directors of Lost have explicitly stated that they would kill off characters, and would have no problem doing it. Twice we've seen characters die, and twice the writers have backed out by having them mysteriously resuscitated or revealed it to be a hallucination. It appears that they do have problems killing off characters. They're afraid of it. They're afraid they'd lose their fan base if they killed off a popular character like Charlie. Whatever. Don't let your mouth write cheques your butt can't cash next time then.

Leaf Lander
01-13-2005, 04:54 PM
as for the hatch, I am leaning towards underground science facility, but wouldn't put it past them to go with aliens.

and I just realized how sad and pathetic I am. when you said "any theories on the hatch" the first thing that came to mind is...What does Richard Hatch have to do with Lost?

I need to go drown my sorrows in a vat of battery acid.


maybe they were alien scientists?

GJB
01-13-2005, 06:19 PM
At first the show was great and pre-empted a lot. Then there were so many untied plots, so many pre-emption (is that a word?), that it really made it difficult for anyone to keep on following the show.

Typical of JJ Abrams and ABC...

Well it does seem like there are a lot of untied plots in Lost. Like shouldn't be people be a bit more concerned about Ethan? Maybe looking for him? And you'd think they would go look for the French woman again....

From show to show it doesn't seem like there is enough continuity....

Troy McClure
01-13-2005, 06:46 PM
It appears that they do have problems killing off characters. They're afraid of it. They're afraid they'd lose their fan base if they killed off a popular character like Charlie. Whatever. Don't let your mouth write cheques your butt can't cash next time then.
This was all pre-written and taped a while back. They didn't know what characters would be popular.

Shane
01-13-2005, 08:03 PM
This was all pre-written and taped a while back. They didn't know what characters would be popular.

Only the first nine episodes, which was ABC's original commitment. After it became a smash hit, and ABC ordered the rest of the first season, they had to change to change their plans (as they had originally intended to end it with a satisfying conclusion after nine episodes if ABC didn't pick it up), so yeah, by the time they started filming later episodes they already had a general idea which characters were popular.

Don't forget that they screened the pilot to test audiences in July, and thereby before the third episode was probably even filmed, they already knew which characters the test audiences liked and identified with.

WalterSobchak
01-13-2005, 09:56 PM
maybe they were alien scientists?

Mr. Abrams, I presume.

:joker:

E = CH²
01-13-2005, 10:27 PM
Normally I wouldn't care, but the writers/directors of Lost have explicitly stated that they would kill off characters, and would have no problem doing it. Twice we've seen characters die, and twice the writers have backed out by having them mysteriously resuscitated or revealed it to be a hallucination. It appears that they do have problems killing off characters. They're afraid of it. They're afraid they'd lose their fan base if they killed off a popular character like Charlie. Whatever. Don't let your mouth write cheques your butt can't cash next time then.

Ok.. good enough for me.

E = CH²
01-13-2005, 10:41 PM
Well it does seem like there are a lot of untied plots in Lost. Like shouldn't be people be a bit more concerned about Ethan? Maybe looking for him? And you'd think they would go look for the French woman again....

From show to show it doesn't seem like there is enough continuity....

Or how about people talk about the monster. I mean it's got to be a major concern. You barely ever hear people talking about it. And why don't Kate and Michael confront Locke about the monster. They saw it go toward Locke when they first went hunting boars in the jungle ...

What's up with Locke talking to Walt early on and telling him : I've got a secret to tell you...

Speaking about Walt, is there a link between him seeing a polar bear in the spanish comic book he was reading in episode 2 ? Just after that a polar bear attacks Kate and co in the middle of the jungle ? Seems fishy to me...

What's up with Locke being able to know precisely when it's going to rain. It's hurting in his right leg or what ? Speaking about his legs, what's up with him walking again.

How about the others ? How about the meaning of the toy plane Kate was looking for at the bank and on the island. I also read on a forum that the flight number is the same as the case in which was held the little plane at the bank.

What's so special about Claire's kid ? What's up with the medium stuff ?

How come they haven't been rescued yet ?

Lots and lots of untied plots. If it's anything like Alias, we will have answers to a quarter of those questions, the other 3 quarters are going to be made even more complicated and new plots will be created before the end. I don't even know if they have any idea how to solve those plots when they create them.

E = CH²
01-13-2005, 10:50 PM
Also...

Who are the others, who is Ethan, what's in the hatch, where's Claire, what's in and where is the black rock and what does the plan written by the french woman and anoted with lyrics to a french song mean

Shane
01-13-2005, 11:00 PM
Or how about people talk about the monster. I mean it's got to be a major concern. You barely ever hear people talking about it. And why don't Kate and Michael confront Locke about the monster. They saw it go toward Locke when they first went hunting boars in the jungle ...

What's up with Locke talking to Walt early on and telling him : I've got a secret to tell you...

Speaking about Walt, is there a link between him seeing a polar bear in the spanish comic book he was reading in episode 2 ? Just after that a polar bear attacks Kate and co in the middle of the jungle ? Seems fishy to me...

What's up with Locke being able to know precisely when it's going to rain. It's hurting in his right leg or what ? Speaking about his legs, what's up with him walking again.

How about the others ? How about the meaning of the toy plane Kate was looking for at the bank and on the island. I also read on a forum that the flight number is the same as the case in which was held the little plane at the bank.

What's so special about Claire's kid ? What's up with the medium stuff ?

How come they haven't been rescued yet ?

Lots and lots of untied plots. If it's anything like Alias, we will have answers to a quarter of those questions, the other 3 quarters are going to be made even more complicated and new plots will be created before the end. I don't even know if they have any idea how to solve those plots when they create them.

You want to play name the Lost mysteries game? I could beat you.

---

What's in the Hatch?

Why don't they tell Michael about the hatch at least? He works in construction and could possibly help open it.

Why was Sawyer at the same police station as Boone?

Does Jin speak English?

Why did Jin have blood on him in Sun's flashback?

What happened to Jack's father's body?

How did Jack manage to resuscitate Charlie? The whole scene seemed a little far-fetched to me.

Why did Boone hallucinate? Was it because of the stuff Locke applied to his head?

Why has no one gone back to the cockpit? There could be useful items there like a first aid kit.

E = CH²
01-13-2005, 11:13 PM
You want to play name the Lost mysteries game? I could beat you.

---

What's in the Hatch?

Why don't they tell Michael about the hatch at least? He works in construction and could possibly help open it.

Why was Sawyer at the same police station as Boone?

Does Jin speak English?

Why did Jin have blood on him in Sun's flashback?

What happened to Jack's father's body?

How did Jack manage to resuscitate Charlie? The whole scene seemed a little far-fetched to me.

Why did Boone hallucinate? Was it because of the stuff Locke applied to his head?

Why has no one gone back to the cockpit? There could be useful items there like a first aid kit.

Exactly, like you said earlier in the thread I'm worried they're taking on more than they can chew. How could they possibly solve all those plots before the end of season 1. Some of them are going to carry on into season 2. And as they go along creating more and more plots, it's just going to make it harder. I'm concerned the that Abrams hasn't learned from the mistakes he has made with Alias.

Shane
01-13-2005, 11:21 PM
How come they haven't been rescued yet ?

I can actually answer that one.

If they were rescued, the show would be over. ;)

Roughneck
01-13-2005, 11:23 PM
I think they need to create all these plots because they need as many options as possible. There isn't much you can do on a show about surviors on an island without running into dead ends. They need as many scenarios as possible if they want to keep the show going.

HABitual
01-14-2005, 02:38 AM
One character I think is being very under used is that black woman. I forget her name but she seems like a good actress.

discostu
01-14-2005, 08:15 AM
Well it does seem like there are a lot of untied plots in Lost. Like shouldn't be people be a bit more concerned about Ethan? Maybe looking for him? And you'd think they would go look for the French woman again....

From show to show it doesn't seem like there is enough continuity....

My gripe isn't that there are untied plot lines, but that no one on the island seems to be doing anything to pursue any of these plotlines.

The last episode before X-mas was great, as so much stuff happened (Sayeed returns, and tells them that the French women is on the island, Ethan was revealed to be not on the plane, a major character is kidnapped), that I thought the show was going to really pick up.

You'd think that these revelations would spark a change in behaviour on the island. At the very least, you'd think they'd be more defensive, and prepared to handle any intruders. More likely though, you'd think they'd be putting out exploratory teams to survey the island more, to see what else is out there.

Rick Middleton
01-14-2005, 08:22 AM
What happened to Jack's father's body?
.

Jack's father was on the airplane? Are you sure?

discostu
01-14-2005, 08:34 AM
Jack's father was on the airplane? Are you sure?

His corpse was. That was Jack's purpose in Sydney. He flew over to ID the body, and to bring it back to LA, to have the funeral.

He wasn't supposed to be on the flight, but managed to plead his way on to the ticket agent. While on the island, Jack has seen visions of his father, and has found the casket, but has not found his body.

Rick Middleton
01-14-2005, 08:37 AM
His corpse was. That was Jack's purpose in Sydney. He flew over to ID the body, and to bring it back to LA, to have the funeral.

He wasn't supposed to be on the flight, but managed to plead his way on to the ticket agent. While on the island, Jack has seen visions of his father, and has found the casket, but has not found his body.
I think I missed most of the Jack flashback episode. That's what happens when you channel surf too much.

WalterSobchak
01-14-2005, 09:15 AM
His corpse was. That was Jack's purpose in Sydney. He flew over to ID the body, and to bring it back to LA, to have the funeral.

He wasn't supposed to be on the flight, but managed to plead his way on to the ticket agent. While on the island, Jack has seen visions of his father, and has found the casket, but has not found his body.

Jack was arguing to get his father on the plane, he was quite agressive with the ticket agent. I could definately see the agent lying to Jack about getting his father's body on the plane or making a promise they can't deliver on.

There is no visual confirmation that the body ever made it on the plane, but now I am nitpicking.

WalterSobchak
01-14-2005, 09:18 AM
You want to play name the Lost mysteries game? I could beat you.

---

What's in the Hatch?

Why don't they tell Michael about the hatch at least? He works in construction and could possibly help open it.

Why was Sawyer at the same police station as Boone?

Does Jin speak English?

Why did Jin have blood on him in Sun's flashback?

What happened to Jack's father's body?

How did Jack manage to resuscitate Charlie? The whole scene seemed a little far-fetched to me.

Why did Boone hallucinate? Was it because of the stuff Locke applied to his head?

Why has no one gone back to the cockpit? There could be useful items there like a first aid kit.

I think the question that needs to be answered, or at least the statement, that would end all of these questions was the one posed by Sayeed when he was talking with Kate. "We should not have survived that crash".

And although it is Abrams Production, I am not sure how much actual writing he does ont he show. I thought I read somewhere that the writers actually used to work on Buffy TVS or X-Files...either way, there is certainly Alias tones to the complete lack of plot explanation. I can't watch Alias, it annoys me, but I am still stuck on LOST.

Rabid Ranger
01-14-2005, 09:34 AM
I think the question that needs to be answered, or at least the statement, that would end all of these questions was the one posed by Sayeed when he was talking with Kate. "We should not have survived that crash".

And although it is Abrams Production, I am not sure how much actual writing he does ont he show. I thought I read somewhere that the writers actually used to work on Buffy TVS or X-Files...either way, there is certainly Alias tones to the complete lack of plot explanation. I can't watch Alias, it annoys me, but I am still stuck on LOST.

The one element I go back to is the fact that Locke has regained the use of his legs. IMO, he's the straw that stirs the drink, and will ultimately be the key character.

Rick Middleton
01-14-2005, 11:19 AM
The one element I go back to is the fact that Locke has regained the use of his legs. IMO, he's the straw that stirs the drink, and will ultimately be the key character.

The question is why Locke lost the use of his legs. I thought it was something mental, and after the plane crash he somehow "clicked out" of that.

Am I wrong here?

discostu
01-14-2005, 11:37 AM
The question is why Locke lost the use of his legs. I thought it was something mental, and after the plane crash he somehow "clicked out" of that.

Am I wrong here?

Even if it was mental, there is the fact that he hadn't used his leg muscles in 4 years. Speaking as someone who was in a leg cast for a long time last year, the ability to regain movement in his legs, and immediately be able to function at 100% as he has is something that will warrant an explanation at some point in the future (hopefully). My cast came off in August, and my left leg is still not as strong as it used to be.

The G Man
01-14-2005, 11:46 AM
I think the question that needs to be answered, or at least the statement, that would end all of these questions was the one posed by Sayeed when he was talking with Kate. "We should not have survived that crash".

My theory is that they all died in the plane crash and that they are all currently in purgatory. However they all had unresolved or unfilled issues that first need to be resolved before they ... "move on".

The G Man
01-14-2005, 11:52 AM
You'd think that these revelations would spark a change in behaviour on the island. At the very least, you'd think they'd be more defensive, and prepared to handle any intruders. More likely though, you'd think they'd be putting out exploratory teams to survey the island more, to see what else is out there.
You would think that with 1) the monster, 2) polar bears, 3) wild boars, and 4) Ethan all roaming about the island, that by now they would all have at least fashioned spears to use for defensive purposes, especially when they're out in the jungle. The inexplicable lack of grabbing one's self a weapon by characters in TV and movies never ceases to amaze me.

Ronnie Bass
01-14-2005, 12:00 PM
You would think that with 1) the monster, 2) polar bears, 3) wild boars, and 4) Ethan all roaming about the island, that by now they would all have at least fashioned spears to use for defensive purposes, especially when they're out in the jungle. The inexplicable lack of grabbing one's self a weapon by characters in TV and movies never ceases to amaze me.
The thing that amazes me is that they have no real fear of roaming the jungle knowing that there is a monster and possible more polar bears out there, if it was me I'd never leave the freakin' beach.

Troy McClure
01-14-2005, 12:08 PM
The thing that amazes me is that they have no real fear of roaming the jungle knowing that there is a monster and possible more polar bears out there, if it was me I'd never leave the freakin' beach.
Or at least carry pointy sticks around.

Gee Wally
01-14-2005, 12:27 PM
Or at least carry pointy sticks around.



and make sure you always have the big chubby dude with you.

You only need to out run him.

:D

ACC1224
01-14-2005, 12:30 PM
and make sure you always have the big chubby dude with you.

You only need to out run him.

:D

good point but that will only work once!

WalterSobchak
01-14-2005, 12:40 PM
The question is why Locke lost the use of his legs. I thought it was something mental, and after the plane crash he somehow "clicked out" of that.

Am I wrong here?

but of course they have never gone there. I am hoping it was a mental issue, because the regeneration of a physical ailment would probably cause alot of fans to lose their "suspension of belief".

The G Man
01-14-2005, 01:03 PM
but of course they have never gone there. I am hoping it was a mental issue, because the regeneration of a physical ailment would probably cause alot of fans to lose their "suspension of belief".
Eh, I don't know about that. I'm looking at this show as just a big long episode of "The Twilight Zone"

Gee Wally
01-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Eh, I don't know about that. I'm looking at this show as just a big long episode of "The Twilight Zone"


me too.

I feel the same way about Carnivale.


Enjoy them both though.

Rick Middleton
01-14-2005, 01:09 PM
and make sure you always have the big chubby dude with you.

You only need to out run him.

:D
Dude!

soya_sauce_chicken
01-14-2005, 01:22 PM
Dude!
LOL
that guy is the funniest guy there...
"Dude, piss on my foot.. you got to piss on my foot..."

Shane
01-14-2005, 01:28 PM
LOL
that guy is the funniest guy there...
"Dude, piss on my foot.. you got to piss on my foot..."

"Dude, your wife's hot."

discostu
01-14-2005, 01:31 PM
LOL
that guy is the funniest guy there...
"Dude, piss on my foot.. you got to piss on my foot..."

Does anyone know when or if they're going to do a flashback episode on Hurley.

I figure they're planning on giving every major and supporting character a flashback episode, so he'll probably get one.

I'm not sure what type of back-story they'll give him. He's doing a good enough job of being interesting by just being the fat, funny guy.

The G Man
01-14-2005, 01:40 PM
Does anyone know when or if they're going to do a flashback episode on Hurley.

I figure they're planning on giving every major and supporting character a flashback episode, so he'll probably get one.

I'm not sure what type of back-story they'll give him. He's doing a good enough job of being interesting by just being the fat, funny guy.
My mom says he was on Good Morning America ... (last week?) ... and said he didn't know what his own character's background was. So FYI, for whatever its worth.

Troy McClure
01-14-2005, 01:42 PM
My mom says he was on Good Morning America ... (last week?) ... and said he didn't know what his own character's background was. So FYI, for whatever its worth.
In other words, they're making this **** up as they go along. I wonder how much better this would have been if it had remained a nine show mini-series.

soya_sauce_chicken
01-14-2005, 01:43 PM
"Dude, your wife's hot."
these leaves aren't for eating... :lol :lol:

Shane
01-14-2005, 01:51 PM
Does anyone know when or if they're going to do a flashback episode on Hurley.

I figure they're planning on giving every major and supporting character a flashback episode, so he'll probably get one.

I'm not sure what type of back-story they'll give him. He's doing a good enough job of being interesting by just being the fat, funny guy.

Yeah, his is the 18th episode.

Shane
01-14-2005, 01:54 PM
Upcoming episodes:

Episode 14: Special - Michael/Walt
Episode 15: Homecoming - Charlie
Episode 16: Outlaws - Sawyer
Episode 17: ...In Translation - Jin
Episode 18: Numbers - Hurley

wensink
01-14-2005, 01:55 PM
In other words, they're making this **** up as they go along. I wonder how much better this would have been if it had remained a nine show mini-series.

My local paper had a story on him a few weeks back. I love his character. But apparently, he is a really, really cool guy. And has been absolutely savoring/enjoying his new fame.

He said that he's basically only a few weeks ahead of the fans. They have been top secret with the scripts.

He also said that he hoped to see his background story in February/March. He has no idea what his background will be.

There have been rumors that he isn't what he appears to be. This was based on his comments early in the series that "back home, I was sort of a warrior myself".

The speculation was that he could be anywhere from a dungeons and dragons nerd to a terrorist.

wensink
01-14-2005, 01:57 PM
Yeah, his is the 18th episode.

Well....there you go. That puts it right about where he said it would be.

Cool.

Thanks!!

Shane
01-14-2005, 01:57 PM
I would say that even Charlie is a supporting character. Jack, Kate, Locke for sure. Sawyer may be debatable but he has as much weight to the show as Sayeed, possibly less. What does Charlie really bring to the show? about as much screen time and story as Michael/Walt/Boone/Hurley lately.

but that could just be my perception since he has been pretty boring since kicking the heroin.

Well Kate and Jack are definitely main characters. So is Locke. Charlie and Sawyer may be debateable, but I consider them main characters because both of them will have two flashback episodes before other characters (Jin, Hurley) even have one.

Ronnie Bass
01-14-2005, 08:08 PM
Well Kate and Jack are definitely main characters. So is Locke. Charlie and Sawyer may be debateable, but I consider them main characters because both of them will have two flashback episodes before other characters (Jin, Hurley) even have one.
I'd say Sawyer is most definetly a main character, probably wasn't intended that way, but now he is.

Ronnie Bass
01-19-2005, 09:50 PM
Claire is back, unless Locke and Boone are having an hallucination.

HABitual
01-19-2005, 10:24 PM
Claire is back, unless Locke and Boone are having an hallucination.

I think this is real but I am more curious about Walt's new found ability!

RyanWhite53
01-19-2005, 10:36 PM
I still love the show. But, this episode wasn't the best. It seemed rushed to me or something. Like there was too much story to tell with the Michael/Walt backstory, and there was too much to tell on the Island, and it was all crammed together to fit the 60 minutes (although tonight it was like 63) I was kinda hoping to see more story behind the mother dying/the stepfather not wanting him, that part felt especially rushed. As well as the Sawyer giving up the Diary/the Diary revelation, that part felt rushed too.

Again, the show is flirting with a direction that I desperately hope it doesn't go, the supernatural. If it turns out that Walt has some weird psychic ability that can control animals, i'm not sure I am gonna like that.

Not enough Kate in the episode (but that is just me ;) )

More and more, I think the strongest character in the cast is Locke, I pretty much like everything about him. His backstory, his development, the fact that he can be seen as a villain and a hero.

The first thing I thought about when I saw Claire, is if she still is pregnant. You couldn't tell. It will be really creepy, if it turns out she isn't and the island-people have taken the baby.

On a small side note, I think they could have spent more time making the polar bear/monster a little more believable.

Back to repeats next week, unfortunately.

Shane
01-19-2005, 10:50 PM
Back to repeats next week, unfortunately.

And the week after.

Ronnie Bass
01-19-2005, 10:52 PM
And the week after.
And the week after.

Shane
01-19-2005, 10:54 PM
And the week after.

Actually, no, that one's new. But the next five after that... :dunno:

WalterSobchak
01-19-2005, 11:26 PM
They have been hinting for awhile that Walt has some sort of power...he has a way of "making" things happen.

-the bird crashing into the window was a way to get his mothers attention
-the knife
-the polar bear in the comic he was reading in the 2nd episode just before it attacked Sawyer and co. out searching for a signal with the transponder
-the way he continually owned Hurley at backgammon with his "lucky" roles.

as Hank Hill would say "the boy ain't right"

GJB
01-20-2005, 12:33 AM
They have been hinting for awhile that Walt has some sort of power...he has a way of "making" things happen.

-the bird crashing into the window was a way to get his mothers attention
-the knife
-the polar bear in the comic he was reading in the 2nd episode just before it attacked Sawyer and co. out searching for a signal with the transponder
-the way he continually owned Hurley at backgammon with his "lucky" roles.

as Hank Hill would say "the boy ain't right"

Also when Michael yanked the comic strip from him and threw it into the fire, wasn't the polar bear shown face up on the fire as the camera zoomed in on it?