NBA Thread

Mathletic
11-06-2004, 11:12 AM
let's get this thing started

good start for the Raptors with another win yesterday against Detroit

Suns are playing great basketball right now, most exciting team right now IMO

Brock
11-06-2004, 12:15 PM
let's get this thing started

good start for the Raptors with another win yesterday against Detroit

Suns are playing great basketball right now, most exciting team right now IMO

They sure are.

Two easy wins against two of the supposed top teams in the East.

Sam Mitchell has this team on the right track for sure. Vince and Jalen are co-existing. Bosh is playing like an All Star. Loren Woods has been outstanding, as has Rafer Alston.

ATG
11-06-2004, 12:22 PM
They sure are.

Two easy wins against two of the supposed top teams in the East.

Sam Mitchell has this team on the right track for sure. Vince and Jalen are co-existing. Bosh is playing like an All Star. Loren Woods has been outstanding, as has Rafer Alston.

Rockets play in the West

Gibsons Finest
11-06-2004, 01:01 PM
Mavs are playing some great ball so far. Dirk has been awesome as always, Dampier has done everything expected of him, Finley's been very good, Howard's done well so far in his sophomore campaign, and Harris has been very impressive IMO. Even guys off the bench like Stackhouse and Terry are doing well. They're proving they're going to challenge Houston and San Antonio for the division title.


BTW, Raps fans, what's happened to Donyell Marshall? He did very well last year, but now Loren Woods is starting at PF I believe. Did he have a bad training camp, an injury, or did Woods just flat out beat him out for the job?

Ajacied
11-06-2004, 01:10 PM
Spurs baby.. Off to a solid start..

Anyone cought Manu's dunk last night?

Chaos
11-06-2004, 02:00 PM
Spurs baby.. Off to a solid start..

Anyone cought Manu's dunk last night?

Yes...it was absolutely sick...he looked like he was just moving slowly through the lane, and then bam! he's dunking on 3 Lakers.

Ajacied
11-06-2004, 05:43 PM
Yes...it was absolutely sick...he looked like he was just moving slowly through the lane, and then bam! he's dunking on 3 Lakers.

He's fearless. Loved his crossover on Odom (?) before splitting 3 Lakers for the slam. He's off to a great start averaging 21 ppg, 8 rpg, 5.5 apg and 4 spg. Still early though..

Nowitzki seems to be off to a good start as well, might even get some MVP consideration if he keeps this up.

Fish on The Sand
11-06-2004, 05:52 PM
Yeah Phoenix Suns!!!

Gibsons Finest
11-06-2004, 07:44 PM
Nowitzki seems to be off to a good start as well, might even get some MVP consideration if he keeps this up.

That might have alot to do with Nash's leaving. The big three split captaincy, but in some way, it always seemed like this was Nash's team, and that Steve Nash was the face of the Dallas Mavericks. When he played well, they all did, but when he didn't, well, you saw the Western Qs. Now Nash is gone, Finley is still underrated, so this is Dirk's team now more than ever. I truly believe that's elevated his play.

IMO, there are going to be five main MVP candidates as the season wears on. They are Dirk, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Kobe(if the Lakers have success), and Shaq.

Safir*
11-07-2004, 05:27 AM
this is Dirk's team now more than ever. I truly believe that's elevated his play.

I never had any doubt that Dirk would carry this team. I mean just look at what he was doing over the past few year for the German National team, you know he was the face of Team Germany. Now in the NBA Nowitzki will just act the same, but this time for his NBA team.

Go Dirk!

Safir*
11-07-2004, 05:36 AM
My new favorite NBA team got it's first NBA win last night. Yep that's right those Charlotte Bobcats beat the Orlando Magic 110-100.

IMO the Cats will not be the worst NBA expansion franchise ever, they will may not even have the worst record this season, if they keep on playing like yesterday. What strikes me is the fact that Bickerstaff really found some gems in the league and created a well functioning team unit. The scoring is pretty well spread and the defence looks solid. Primoz Brezec is bound to become the Go-To-Guy for the team and with Gerald Wallace and rookie Emeka Okafor this team is well set, like I said before.;)

Go Bobcats!

Ajacied
11-07-2004, 06:01 AM
That might have alot to do with Nash's leaving. The big three split captaincy, but in some way, it always seemed like this was Nash's team, and that Steve Nash was the face of the Dallas Mavericks. When he played well, they all did, but when he didn't, well, you saw the Western Qs. Now Nash is gone, Finley is still underrated, so this is Dirk's team now more than ever. I truly believe that's elevated his play.

IMO, there are going to be five main MVP candidates as the season wears on. They are Dirk, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Kobe(if the Lakers have success), and Shaq.

Duncan and Garnett are still in a league of their own in terms of MVP frontrunners. Shaq comes in 3rd, followed by Kobe and then Nowitzki. Nowitzki's supporting cast is just too impressive..

Safir*
11-07-2004, 06:14 AM
Duncan and Garnett are still in a league of their own in terms of MVP frontrunners. Shaq comes in 3rd, followed by Kobe and then Nowitzki. Nowitzki's supporting cast is just too impressive..

Duncan: Parker, Ginobili
Garnett: Cassell, Sprewell, Szczerbiak
O'Neill: Wade, Jones
Bryant: Odom, Butler, Grant
Nowitzki: Finley, Terry, Stackhouse

IMO Garnett has the best support cast with Dallas and the Lakers being are right behind them. You also got to consider, that if Nowitzki would be averaging 26-28 points/ game & 10-12 rebounds/ game he would automatically get MVP consideration.

Belgian Fan
11-07-2004, 07:04 AM
I think San Antonio will take some stopping, I always liked Brent Barry and I think he'll prove to be the best 'minor' acquisition of the off season. He'll be shooting 3's close to 45% with Duncan and Nesterovic inside. Plus he's an excellent team player with a very high Basketball IQ.

Spurs all the way to the title and they won't be stopped.


Oh and the Lakers will suck, seriously, Kobe is not able to carry a team to the title on his own and it will be proven this season. But I'll root for them anyway, I'll get to see them on Belgian TV the first time on wednesday I believe against New Orleans

Safir*
11-07-2004, 07:27 AM
Where's Karl Malone?

Tuggy
11-07-2004, 02:02 PM
Raptors win again :yo: 3-0

Vomiting Kermit*
11-07-2004, 02:13 PM
Raptors win again :yo: 3-0
:handclap:

Porn*
11-07-2004, 02:28 PM
woohoo


:handclap:
:yo:

High flyin' Habs*
11-07-2004, 02:58 PM
Let's toast for an 82-0 season :lol

Ajacied
11-07-2004, 03:03 PM
Bosh is a stud.. going 1 for 9, scoring 4 points and a turnover in 32 minutes..

Kid is inconsistent..

Ajacied
11-07-2004, 03:04 PM
I think San Antonio will take some stopping, I always liked Brent Barry and I think he'll prove to be the best 'minor' acquisition of the off season. He'll be shooting 3's close to 45% with Duncan and Nesterovic inside. Plus he's an excellent team player with a very high Basketball IQ.

Spurs all the way to the title and they won't be stopped.

I honestly believe that the Pistons can stop the Spurs.. It will probably go between them this year..

Porn*
11-07-2004, 03:25 PM
Bosh is a stud.. going 1 for 9, scoring 4 points and a turnover in 32 minutes..

Kid is inconsistent..
It's his second season in the league... and its the third game of the year. Give the kid a break!

Porn*
11-07-2004, 03:26 PM
I honestly believe that the Pistons can stop the Spurs.. It will probably go between them this year..
Watch out for Dallas... mark my words ;)

Sting
11-07-2004, 03:28 PM
This is the only time you'll see me cheering for a Toronto-based team, haha. Go Raps.

I never ever watch basketball, but after watching the first 3 games I'm hooked.

The only player I can't stand on the Raptors is Bonner :( Not only is his name funny, but the guy sucks tremendously :( I keep shouting to get him off the court...because whenever he's off the Raptors start winning again.

sveiglar
11-08-2004, 09:03 AM
Primoz Brezec is bound to become the Go-To-Guy for the team and with Gerald Wallace and rookie Emeka Okafor this team is well set, like I said before.;)


Brezec is available on waivers in my league and I am deciding if I should drop one of Mehmet Okur or Samuel Dalembert to pick him up. I think I should, but not sure which guy to drop. I'm leaning to dumping Okur.

My team: The UnAmericans!

Nowitzki, Kirilenko, Parker, Ginobili, Magloire, Gasol, Deng, Okur, Dalembert, Arroyo (IL), Jaric (will be dumped when Arroyo is healthy).

High flyin' Habs*
11-08-2004, 10:04 AM
Brezec is available on waivers in my league and I am deciding if I should drop one of Mehmet Okur or Samuel Dalembert to pick him up. I think I should, but not sure which guy to drop. I'm leaning to dumping Okur.

My team: The UnAmericans!

Nowitzki, Kirilenko, Parker, Ginobili, Magloire, Gasol, Deng, Okur, Dalembert, Arroyo (IL), Jaric (will be dumped when Arroyo is healthy).
Where's Nash, Ming, Stojakovich, Divac? :dunno:

sveiglar
11-08-2004, 10:52 AM
Where's Nash, Ming, Stojakovich, Divac? :dunno:

There were 7 other teams... I couldn't get everyone! Stojakovic went top 10 between my picks of Nowitzki and Kirilenko, Ming went one pick before my third round choice of Gasol, and Nash one pick before my fourth rounder. Divac is available on waivers, but is currently on the IL.

Safir*
11-08-2004, 11:07 AM
Brezec is available on waivers in my league and I am deciding if I should drop one of Mehmet Okur or Samuel Dalembert to pick him up. I think I should, but not sure which guy to drop. I'm leaning to dumping Okur.

Nowitzki, Kirilenko, Parker, Ginobili, Magloire, Gasol, Deng, Okur, Dalembert, Arroyo (IL), Jaric (will be dumped when Arroyo is healthy).

Okur might be the better scorer, but Dalembert played in all games last season.
Brezec has been good in the pre-season and is doing just fine in the season. Some Bobcats fans already see him in the All-Star-Game. Well that would be nice, but they are jumping the gun.

Is Turkoglu gone in your league?

My team: The UnAmericans!
:lol Awesome.

sveiglar
11-08-2004, 11:29 AM
Okur might be the better scorer, but Dalembert played in all games last season.
Brezec has been good in the pre-season and is doing just fine in the season. Some Bobcats fans already see him in the All-Star-Game. Well that would be nice, but they are jumping the gun.

Is Turkoglu gone in your league?


Both Okur and Dalembert are listed as starters (although Dalembert was demoted for a while), but neither have played big minutes so far, so that's why I was looking at Brezec. I'll continue to monitor the minutes, but if it continues I'll make a change.

Turkoglu is available; I was looking for a SG backup for Ginobili and chose Deng over Hedo.. a wise choice so far. Hedo is tops on my guard watchlist in case of further injuries.

Impossibles
11-08-2004, 12:21 PM
BTW, Raps fans, what's happened to Donyell Marshall? He did very well last year, but now Loren Woods is starting at PF I believe. Did he have a bad training camp, an injury, or did Woods just flat out beat him out for the job?

Last season the Raps didn't have any centers, so Bosh started a lot of games there, but he is a true PF. When Bosh played center, Donyell played PF.

Now they have Woods (who is playing well), and will have Moiso back soon, and Aroyo (sp?) once he gets up to speed. Donyell will be one of the first guys off the bench though, as he can play either SF or PF.

Tuggy
11-10-2004, 10:21 PM
Raptors just handed the Jazz their first loss of the season :yo:

Sting
11-10-2004, 10:24 PM
That was a sweet game. A bit surprised at how little they played Carter...but nonetheless they got the win. Bosh was spectacular tonight.

Gibsons Finest
11-10-2004, 10:26 PM
Last season the Raps didn't have any centers, so Bosh started a lot of games there, but he is a true PF. When Bosh played center, Donyell played PF.

Now they have Woods (who is playing well), and will have Moiso back soon, and Aroyo (sp?) once he gets up to speed. Donyell will be one of the first guys off the bench though, as he can play either SF or PF.

Yeah, I figured that out when a Raps fan said Bosh was back at his natural position of PF.

High flyin' Habs*
11-11-2004, 11:42 PM
Mavs just handed out the Heat their first lose of the season. 113-93 :yo:
Nowitzki with 41 pts :yo:

sveiglar
11-12-2004, 07:52 PM
Mavs just handed out the Heat their first lose of the season. 113-93 :yo:
Nowitzki with 41 pts :yo:

My boy!

And I did dump Dalembert for Brezec... Primoz is primo!

two out of three*
11-12-2004, 07:57 PM
Everyone sleeping on the Clippers? They are going to be a big surprise team this year.

Brand-Maggette-Kittles-Jaric-Kaman.. They ain't that bad.

Mathletic
11-12-2004, 07:58 PM
Everyone sleeping on the Clippers? They are going to be a big surprise team this year.

Brand-Maggette-Kittles-Jaric-Kaman.. They ain't that bad.

you forgot Wilcox

two out of three*
11-12-2004, 08:17 PM
you forgot Wilcox


Him Too.

Mathletic
11-12-2004, 10:33 PM
a big 5 point performance by Jason Richardson again tonight to help the sucking Warriors to lose another game

ATG
11-12-2004, 11:08 PM
Everyone sleeping on the Clippers? They are going to be a big surprise team this year.

Brand-Maggette-Kittles-Jaric-Kaman.. They ain't that bad.

Well neither Kittles or Kaman have played a game yet this season.Chris Wilcox is the real surprise he is putting up star numbers

Gibsons Finest
11-13-2004, 12:08 AM
Raptors lose a real close one to Seattle 88-87. VC had a chance to win it at the end, but didn't put enough muscle into his shot.


IMO, speaking from a Raptors fans' point of view, VC has to go. The rest of the team has shown alot of good chemistry, and Vince just isn't getting it done. When Donyell comes back, he can go small forward and send Jalen to replace VC at SG.

A good fit for Vince I'd say would be Dallas, LA(Lakers), or Sacremento(if they subsequentley granted Peja's trade request). They could get a nice package from big D. Dallas is doing very well, put my guess is that with Michael Finley gone, they could use another offensive threat. Raps fans, what kind of package would you want from Dallas for VC?

Chaos
11-13-2004, 12:19 AM
A good fit for Vince I'd say would be Dallas. They could get a nice package from big D. Dallas is doing very well, put my guess is that with Michael Finley gone, they could use another offensive threat. Raps fans, what kind of package would you want from Dallas for VC?

No no no no no...absolutely no use for VC in Dallas.....Daniels started in place of Finley and put up 22 in Miami, and can continue to do that. This is a guy who averaged 8.5 ppg in about 20 minutes of playing time last year, then jumped to 15ppg in the playoffs. This isnt even mentioning career 20ppg scorer Jerry Stackhouse, who is still coming off the bench. No need to trade someone like Howard(who Im sure Toronto would ask for) for yet another SG.

Gibsons Finest
11-13-2004, 12:34 AM
No no no no no...absolutely no use for VC in Dallas.....Daniels started in place of Finley and put up 22 in Miami, and can continue to do that. This is a guy who averaged 8.5 ppg in about 20 minutes of playing time last year, then jumped to 15ppg in the playoffs. This isnt even mentioning career 20ppg scorer Jerry Stackhouse, who is still coming off the bench. No need to trade someone like Howard(who Im sure Toronto would ask for) for yet another SG.

Carter can also play small forward, and would be an upgrade over Daniels or Howard. Daniels put up 22 last game, but Miami was terrible defensively all game. Dallas was interested in him in the offseason, and I'm sure Howard's 8 PPG and Daniels' 1 22 point game haven't really changed that.

Stack is alot better coming off the bench than starting, and Daniels can switch over to the point(as can Finley IIRC), so Carter would fit in smoothly.

Then again, Dallas is doing very well with Dirk as their one superstar, so they probably don't need Vince, but it definetely wouldn't hurt. Vince would be better if he had a guy like Dirk to be the main man IMO.

While Toronto would probably ask for someone like Howard, you're forgetting that Vince demanded a trade(doesn't seem to be a factor, though), Babcock is a rookie GM, and Dallas has made trades for very good players before, giving up barely anything(see the Antoine Walker trade). Podkolzin would probably draw interest from Toronto, and with the addition of Dampier, he's not really needed.

kruezer
11-13-2004, 01:29 AM
I wonder if Sacto would do VC for Peja straight up? Vince is more the superstar, but I don't know that he's really better than Peja at this point (though Peja has struggled so far this year, but its early and he sounds like he wants out)

I'd do it from TO's standpoint, Vince must go.

Alston-Rose-Peja-Bosh-Woods is a great front 5 and the bench looks better every game.

Ajacied
11-13-2004, 01:46 AM
I still think the rumours of an "A to the R to the T - E -S - T" for Peja swap has high odds of actually occuring.

BTW; how bout Manu Ginobili again, eh? 29 points (5/6 3pnt), 7 rebounds, 7 assists, 6 steals, 1 block.

Ajacied
11-13-2004, 02:08 AM
Everyone sleeping on the Clippers? They are going to be a big surprise team this year.

Brand-Maggette-Kittles-Jaric-Kaman.. They ain't that bad.

No they won't, no matter who they have they are still the Clippers. They've had even better teams, on paper at least, the past few seasons with Quinten Richardson, Derek Anderson, Andre Miller to support the others. Got them nowhere.

The Clippers will once again be a lottery team..

two out of three*
11-13-2004, 09:40 AM
No they won't, no matter who they have they are still the Clippers. They've had even better teams, on paper at least, the past few seasons with Quinten Richardson, Derek Anderson, Andre Miller to support the others. Got them nowhere.

The Clippers will once again be a lottery team..

Even the Red Sox won the World Series...

Things change.

Mathletic
11-13-2004, 09:52 AM
Well neither Kittles or Kaman have played a game yet this season.Chris Wilcox is the real surprise he is putting up star numbers

more or less, everybody thought coming out of college that he would put up very good numbers in the NBA

Chaos
11-13-2004, 10:54 AM
Carter can also play small forward, and would be an upgrade over Daniels or Howard. Daniels put up 22 last game, but Miami was terrible defensively all game. Dallas was interested in him in the offseason, and I'm sure Howard's 8 PPG and Daniels' 1 22 point game haven't really changed that.

Stack is alot better coming off the bench than starting, and Daniels can switch over to the point(as can Finley IIRC), so Carter would fit in smoothly.

Then again, Dallas is doing very well with Dirk as their one superstar, so they probably don't need Vince, but it definetely wouldn't hurt. Vince would be better if he had a guy like Dirk to be the main man IMO.

While Toronto would probably ask for someone like Howard, you're forgetting that Vince demanded a trade(doesn't seem to be a factor, though), Babcock is a rookie GM, and Dallas has made trades for very good players before, giving up barely anything(see the Antoine Walker trade). Podkolzin would probably draw interest from Toronto, and with the addition of Dampier, he's not really needed.

And Carter has also had trouble staying healthy recently. This team is off to a 5-1 start, just throttled a pretty good Miami team, and is actually playing some semblence of defense. There is no need to bring in another overpaid star to play a position we are stacked in....and no, Finley can't play the point. Daniels will fill in just fine for Finley while he is injured. Remember, there is a reason we gave him a 6 year $36 million contract after last season. He's that good.

Tuggy
11-13-2004, 11:58 AM
Raptors lose a real close one to Seattle 88-87. VC had a chance to win it at the end, but didn't put enough muscle into his shot.


IMO, speaking from a Raptors fans' point of view, VC has to go. The rest of the team has shown alot of good chemistry, and Vince just isn't getting it done. When Donyell comes back, he can go small forward and send Jalen to replace VC at SG.

A good fit for Vince I'd say would be Dallas, LA(Lakers), or Sacremento(if they subsequentley granted Peja's trade request). They could get a nice package from big D. Dallas is doing very well, put my guess is that with Michael Finley gone, they could use another offensive threat. Raps fans, what kind of package would you want from Dallas for VC?

I agree, I would like to see Carter traded. This team is winning because they are playing like a team, not relying on Carter to score 35. And I wasn't happy with the shot selection on that last shot in Seattle, but what can you do.

As for where to move him, that's going to be difficult to get full value IMO. Now if he is able to stay healthy then he is a great player and would make any team better but *can* he stay healthy? Marshall is now on the IL so he has to sit out at least 5 games (i think) so they won't deal Carter anytime soon.

Vince just doesn't seem to be in the game as much as his teammates. His intensity level is just not up to par right now. I bet he wishes he didn't open his mouth about those trade demands. And I really think that Mitchell is trying to get his Raps to learn how to play without Vince, eg. Vince only playing 4 minutes in the 4Q against the Jazz.

I think that Vince will be traded sometime this season. Not sure where but a deal with Sac might be the most likely. And a deal involved VC and Peja is something I would welcome with open arms!

Gibsons Finest
11-13-2004, 11:52 PM
After watching tonight's game, I must say, Vince has to go. He was sitting on the bench while the rest of the team clawed back and nearly tied it at the end.

I also refute my comments before about VC. He'd be a nice addition to the Mavs, but I'd rather try and scoop up Peja instead, maybe in a deal that involved Trawna. Maybe something that'd send VC to Sac-town, Peja to Dallas, and whatever to Toronto.

Peja would be a very nice fit in Dallas IMO. When Nash left, the Mavs lost a 3-ball threat(kinda the same with Jamison and Walker), and Peja would be that third threat. Peja also seems like an up-tempo player, and that's the style of the Mavs.

In Sacremento, they could use a guy like Vince. Peja doesn't seem to be playing well there, and they could use an outside shooter.

Still not sure what Toronto would want. Howard I'm sure would have to be a part of it, and while I wouldn't want to give him up, it'd be worth it for Peja.

Chaos
11-14-2004, 12:01 AM
After watching tonight's game, I must say, Vince has to go. He was sitting on the bench while the rest of the team clawed back and nearly tied it at the end.

I also refute my comments before about VC. He'd be a nice addition to the Mavs, but I'd rather try and scoop up Peja instead, maybe in a deal that involved Trawna. Maybe something that'd send VC to Sac-town, Peja to Dallas, and whatever to Toronto.

Peja would be a very nice fit in Dallas IMO. When Nash left, the Mavs lost a 3-ball threat(kinda the same with Jamison and Walker), and Peja would be that third threat. Peja also seems like an up-tempo player, and that's the style of the Mavs.

In Sacremento, they could use a guy like Vince. Peja doesn't seem to be playing well there, and they could use an outside shooter.

Still not sure what Toronto would want. Howard I'm sure would have to be a part of it, and while I wouldn't want to give him up, it'd be worth it for Peja.

Much like Shaq, there is no way Sacramento would deal Peja in the Western Conference...and especially not to Dallas.

Gibsons Finest
11-14-2004, 12:16 AM
Much like Shaq, there is no way Sacramento would deal Peja in the Western Conference...and especially not to Dallas.

I thought of that, but because of the division re-alignment, you never know. Shaq also could've been dealt to Dallas, but they didn't come close to Miami's offer.

It's obviously a long-shot that he'd get dealt to Dallas, but hey, whatever.

Tuggy
11-14-2004, 12:19 AM
Another tough loss tonight but gotta give em props for coming back from 20. VC is a chump. He was the only Raptor still sitting on the bench during their comeback, while everyone else was up cheering their teammates on. Poor baby VC sits on the bench to sulk. The sooner he is gone the better.

Great to see Rose finally have a solid game and how about Alston :bow: man I love watchin him play. I also thought Murray had his best game of the year, not so much scoring but all round play. Tough break on that final 3 point attempt, one millisecond sooner and we would of had OT.

Next up are the Clippers on Tues in LA, winnable game and it would be nice to see a W after 2 last second defeats.

High flyin' Habs*
11-14-2004, 12:33 AM
Man Nowitzki is a monster!!! You'd think he'd cool off after his game in Miami right? Hell no! How's 31pts, 3-4 from 3pt range, 7 assists, 7 rebs and 4 steals for ya?
Dallas are now a league best 6-1 with the wizards :lol our next victim.

benji
11-14-2004, 12:55 AM
Another tough loss tonight but gotta give em props for coming back from 20. VC is a chump. He was the only Raptor still sitting on the bench during their comeback, while everyone else was up cheering their teammates on. Poor baby VC sits on the bench to sulk. The sooner he is gone the better.

Great to see Rose finally have a solid game and how about Alston :bow: man I love watchin him play. I also thought Murray had his best game of the year, not so much scoring but all round play. Tough break on that final 3 point attempt, one millisecond sooner and we would of had OT.

Next up are the Clippers on Tues in LA, winnable game and it would be nice to see a W after 2 last second defeats.
What a great game. I went from exhiliration to ultimate sadness in 3 minutes. A great game nonetheless, Rose and Rafer were superb. Props to Murray, Bosh and Peterson, especially for the last 2 seconds of the game.

Gibsons Finest
11-14-2004, 12:58 AM
Man Nowitzki is a monster!!! You'd think he'd cool off after his game in Miami right? Hell no! How's 31pts, 3-4 from 3pt range, 7 assists, 7 rebs and 4 steals for ya?
Dallas are now a league best 6-1 with the wizards :lol our next victim.

That'll be Stack's return to Washington. Also, the Wizards will get to see what they could've had in Devin Harris.

kruezer
11-14-2004, 03:11 AM
What about Vince to the Suns for Shawn Marion, Q-Rich or JJ?

I think the Suns like what they have going on in Phoenix, the Raps may have to wait for them to cool off before they could get a deal done, but it could work, maybe pick up another bench guy in the deal.

Chaos
11-14-2004, 09:03 AM
I thought of that, but because of the division re-alignment, you never know. Shaq also could've been dealt to Dallas, but they didn't come close to Miami's offer.

It's obviously a long-shot that he'd get dealt to Dallas, but hey, whatever.

LA was never going to deal Shaq to Dallas, plain and simple. Unless we offered some ridiculous package of Dirk, Harris, Daniels, and some future #1 picks, he was going to the Eastern COnference no matter what...and you know what? We are just fine now that Shaq is in the East and we have Dampier.

Chaos
11-14-2004, 04:06 PM
Dirk with another monster game, putting up 33 and 13 today against Washington. Stackhouse also poured in 28. Mavs now sit at an NBA-best 7-1 :yo:

Ajacied
11-15-2004, 04:19 AM
Dirk with another monster game, putting up 33 and 13 today against Washington.

And also had 7 turnovers..

High flyin' Habs*
11-15-2004, 05:11 AM
And also had 7 turnovers..
So? :dunno: I'd say the 33 points and 13 rebounds overshadow those 7 to's....

Ajacied
11-15-2004, 05:29 AM
So? :dunno: I'd say the 33 points and 13 rebounds overshadow those 7 to's....

7 Turnovers is unacceptable, those 7 turnovers might very well have meant 14 points for the other team. Meaining Dirk actually contributed with 19 points (33-14) and suddenly his stats don't seem that impressive anymore.

High flyin' Habs*
11-15-2004, 06:18 AM
7 Turnovers is unacceptable, those 7 turnovers might very well have meant 14 points for the other team. Meaining Dirk actually contributed with 19 points (33-14) and suddenly his stats don't seem that impressive anymore.
Whatever mr. analyst....

Chaos
11-15-2004, 09:18 AM
And also had 7 turnovers..

Picky picky :shakehead

Chaos
11-15-2004, 09:35 AM
7 Turnovers is unacceptable, those 7 turnovers might very well have meant 14 points for the other team. Meaining Dirk actually contributed with 19 points (33-14) and suddenly his stats don't seem that impressive anymore.

Lets flip that around...those 7 turnovers might very well have meant 14 points for him, meaning Dirk actually contributed 47(33+14), and suddenly his stats seem much more impressive ;).