NFL Game Predictions - Week 17

Sly Winkle
12-29-2004, 01:03 PM
Deadline is Sunday at 1:00 pm ET.

This is the last week of the year fellas. I'll post the final standings on Monday most likely.


Standings

Zednik20 161-79
Alexander the Great 154-85
Fire Sather 154-86
Koltsov 154-86
Sam 154-86
ObeySteve 153-87
Tuggy 150-90
Hockeyfan02 146-94
ComrieFanatic 145-94
guinness 145-95
Karlof 143-81
19bruins19 142-81
Chaos 142-82
eSabre 142-82
Hercules Rockefeller 139-71
monster_bertuzzi 138-70
York16 138-102
FlyersGuy69 137-87
DanielBriere48 135-75
blah 127-81
Oilers_775 121-89



Winning %

Zednik20 .671
monster_bertuzzi .663
Hercules Rockefeller .662
Alexander the Great .644
DanielBriere48 .643
Fire Sather .642
Koltsov .642
Sam .642
Karlof .638
ObeySteve .638
19bruins19 .637
Chaos .634
eSabre .634
Tuggy .625
FlyersGuy69 .612
blah .611
Hockeyfan02 .608
ComrieFanatic .607
guinness .604
Oilers_775 .576
York16 .575


Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Sly Winkle
12-29-2004, 01:07 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

guinness
12-29-2004, 01:20 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

FlyersGuy69
12-29-2004, 02:00 PM
Week 17

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
12-29-2004, 02:07 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England.......Nothing to play for, but San Fran is the worst team in the league
Cleveland at Houston..........The Brownies want 2nd overall, and Houston isn't going to stop them
Green Bay at Chicago..........Once again, a team with nothing to play for, but Chicago can't even take advantage of that
New Orleans at Carolina..........The Panthers are headed to the playoffs!
Pittsburgh at Buffalo...........Steelies have nothing to play for, and Buffalo has everything to play for
Miami at Baltimore.........Another team with it all on the line, but it doesn't matter any
Minnesota at Washington..........They might not have the division title, but now, they have a wildcard birth
Detroit at Tennessee..........A very meaningless game, with Detroit coming out on top
NY Jets at St. Louis..........I hope the Rams win, but this week, they're playing a team who'll actually be playing them
Cincinnati at Philadelphia............Resting their starters, or not, the Eagles will still win
Atlanta at Seattle..........Vick's playing, so the Falcons will win
Tampa Bay at Arizona.........It's all for not now, but Tampa wins to close out yet another losing season
Kansas City at San Diego...........The Super Chargers have nothing to play for, and while the Chiefs don't either, they'll still win
Jacksonville at Oakland...........They'll win this week, but because of last week's terrible performance, they'll watch the second season at home
Indianapolis at Denver...........Indy's likely resting their starters so they don't show Denver too much, but Jake will blow it anyway
Dallas at NY Giants..........Eli ends his horrible season with a win over Big D



So, the playoffs will look like:

NFC
North: Green Bay
East: Philadelphia
West: Seattle
South: Atlanta
WC: Minnesota
WC: Carolina


AFC
North: Pittsburgh
East: New England
West: San Diego
South: Indianapolis
WC: New York
WC: Buffalo



So in the first round, in the NFC, Green Bay plays Carolina, and Seattle plays Minnesota. In the AFC, Indianapolis plays Buffalo, and San Diego plays New York.

Vomiting Kermit*
12-29-2004, 02:21 PM
http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=119982&page=4

Zednik, I changed my prediction for the Rams game about seven hours before the game started... does that count? If so, I was 12-4 last week and my overall record should be 138-102.

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Sly Winkle
12-29-2004, 02:43 PM
Zednik, I changed my prediction for the Rams game about seven hours before the game started... does that count? If so, I was 12-4 last week and my overall record should be 138-102.

Sure thing, I fixed it for you.

Eskie Jetski
12-29-2004, 02:47 PM
How does the common games tie-breaker work?

I noticed that the Jets are tied with Buffalo in head-to-head and divisional records and have an advantage in conference record, but the common games takes priority over conference. Do game locations matter in common games or is it strictly whether a team beat or lost to a certain team and the other club did or didn't?

eg. if Buffalo beat Pittsburgh at home next week and New York lost to Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, does that count as a common game?

Sorry if I'm hijacking a thread, I just know that it's a popular one and I want to get a response for someone who may know something.

Big McLargehuge
12-29-2004, 03:06 PM
So, the playoffs will look like:

AFC
North: New England
East: Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh is in the North, New England in the East.

Fire Sather
12-29-2004, 03:12 PM
How does the common games tie-breaker work?

I noticed that the Jets are tied with Buffalo in head-to-head and divisional records and have an advantage in conference record, but the common games takes priority over conference. Do game locations matter in common games or is it strictly whether a team beat or lost to a certain team and the other club did or didn't?

eg. if Buffalo beat Pittsburgh at home next week and New York lost to Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, does that count as a common game?

Sorry if I'm hijacking a thread, I just know that it's a popular one and I want to get a response for someone who may know something.


If Jets, Bills and Broncos finish at 10-6 (jets loss, bills and broncos win) The Jets MISS the playoffs :cry: Bills beat Jets in divison tiebreaker. They are tied in divison record, next tie breaker is common games, and the bills win that.

Vomiting Kermit*
12-29-2004, 03:13 PM
If Jets, Bills and Broncos finish at 10-6 (jets loss, bills and broncos win) The Jets MISS the playoffs :cry: Bills beat Jets in divison tiebreaker. They are tied in divison record, next tie breaker is common games, and the bills win that.
:joker: :handclap:

BTW, thanks for fixing that, Zednik.

Fire Sather
12-29-2004, 03:15 PM
Playing for 2nd now :(

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England*
Cleveland at Houston*
*Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina* (Saints arent making the playoffs)
Pittsburgh at Buffalo*
Miami at Baltimore*
Minnesota at Washington* (Minny, falls into the playoffs only because the Jets save their tails)
Detroit at Tennessee*
*NY Jets at St. Louis (If the Jets lose, I'm jumping off a bridge)
Cincinnati at Philadelphia* (They arent ending the year on a home loss)
*Atlanta at Seattle (hawks suck)
Tampa Bay at Arizona* (pumped for some reason ARI team wins)
Kansas City at San Diego*
*Jacksonville at Oakland
*Indianapolis at Denver (Buffalo is a good team and will beat a PIT team which is kinda not trying. Denver isnt, and they will lose to a Colts team that is kinda not trying)
Dallas at NY Giants* (Eli wins his first game!!)

Oilers_775
12-29-2004, 04:02 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Hockeyfan02
12-29-2004, 04:47 PM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England...homer, maybe Brady, Dillon, and all the starters on defense for the Patriots will be inactive and resting.
Cleveland at Houston....Houston will make the playoffs next year
Green Bay at Chicago...No Urlacher=Bears D sucks
New Orleans at Carolina....Panthers complete the comeback to make the playoffs
Pittsburgh at Buffalo....No Ben, No Bettis, should be easy for the Bills
Miami at Baltimore....Ravens are going to be trying to keep their slim hopes alive
Minnesota at Washington...Vikings cant choke two years in a row
Detroit at Tennessee...Lions are a team on the rise
NY Jets at St. Louis...I just cant see the Jets losing this game
Cincinnati at Philadelphia....Upset, but I dont see the Eagles playing their starters past half time, while the Bengals have been pretty good lately
Atlanta at Seattle....I like the Hawks at home, dont see Vick playing much
Tampa Bay at Arizona....Bucs are the better team
Kansas City at San Diego....SD's D can contain KC, Chiefs D wont be able to contain the Chargers O
Jacksonville at Oakland...Raidas need to clean house and go in a new direction
Indianapolis at Denver...Denver beats up on Colts bench
Dallas at NY Giants....You can do it Eli!

TVanek26*
12-29-2004, 05:00 PM
San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

monster_bertuzzi
12-29-2004, 05:11 PM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

eSabre
12-29-2004, 05:14 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

ATG
12-29-2004, 05:50 PM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington(Portis out and Smoot possibly out)
Detroit at Tennessee(No Volek)
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia(Philly Scrubs play again)
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego(Brees,Tomlinson will be rested)
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver(No Peyton,Edge,Harrison means Indy loss)
Dallas at NY Giants

J.R.
12-29-2004, 09:39 PM
New England
Houston
Green Bay
New Orleans
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Minnesota
Detroit
NY Jets
Cincinnati
Seattle
Tampa Bay
San Diego
Jacksonville
Denver
Dallas

ATG
12-29-2004, 10:38 PM
New England
Houston
Green Bay
New Orleans
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Minnesota
Detroit
NY Jets
Cincinnati
Seattle
Tampa Bay
San Diego
Jacksonville
Denver
Dallas


To late dude this is the last week of the competition and it is only open to people who have played from week 3 on I believe.

ComrieFanatic
12-30-2004, 10:45 AM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

ObeySteve
12-30-2004, 11:23 AM
San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Vic Rattlehead*
12-30-2004, 02:52 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England*
Cleveland at Houston*
Green Bay* at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina*
Pittsburgh at Buffalo*
Miami at Baltimore*
Minnesota* at Washington
Detroit* at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis*
Cincinnati at Philadelphia*
Atlanta at Seattle*
Tampa Bay* at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego*
Jacksonville* at Oakland --Curse the Jaguars for making me believe they were a playoff team. Oh well, there is always next year.
Indianapolis* at Denver
Dallas* at NY Giants :banghead:

Karlof
12-31-2004, 12:41 AM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Chaos
12-31-2004, 08:16 AM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Tuggy
12-31-2004, 12:01 PM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia ( Can you believe that Cinncy are the favorites :eek: )
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

ATG
12-31-2004, 12:32 PM
Seems that Atlanta is starting Vick,Duckett and Crumpler.They are slated to play the whole game.Im changing my pick to atlanta

Fire Sather
12-31-2004, 02:15 PM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia ( Can you believe that Cinncy are the favorites :eek: )
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

You really hate the Jets.

Edler Von Gud
12-31-2004, 02:24 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Tuggy
12-31-2004, 02:25 PM
You really hate the Jets.

Well yes I do but why would I think the Jets are going to win? The Rams are at home and fighting for their playoff lives and I think they will win.

Fire Sather
12-31-2004, 02:57 PM
Well yes I do but why would I think the Jets are going to win? The Rams are at home and fighting for their playoff lives and I think they will win.

Oh, I dunno.. maybe because the Jets are by far the better team? :)

Tuggy
12-31-2004, 03:11 PM
Oh, I dunno.. maybe because the Jets are by far the better team? :)

Says who? :dunno:

Hockeyfan02
12-31-2004, 04:23 PM
Oh, I dunno.. maybe because the Jets are by far the better team? :)

The Vikings were the far better team going into Arizona last year with a win and theyre in mentality and that didnt work out too well. Rams play a lot better at home as well so the Jets are going to have a tough game. It's not gonna be a lock of the week.....like your jets over the Pats pick last week. ;)

Fire Sather
12-31-2004, 05:18 PM
Says who? :dunno:

Logic. That Rams D is horrible.

Sam
01-01-2005, 12:10 AM
Week 17:

Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants

Tuggy
01-01-2005, 09:10 AM
Logic. That Rams D is horrible.

That's OK, they are only playing the Jets O.

Fire Sather
01-01-2005, 10:39 AM
That's OK, they are only playing the Jets O.

Who will run the ball down their throat for 170 rushing yards. Thus, the passing game will look like a peice of art and the Jets will put up 35+

Sly Winkle
01-01-2005, 07:30 PM
Go Steelers! Go Colts! Go Jags!!! (not going to happen) :whine:

Vic Rattlehead*
01-01-2005, 07:37 PM
Go Steelers! Go Colts! Go Jags!!! (not going to happen) :whine:
I know. I have very little hope.

Tuggy
01-02-2005, 04:53 AM
Just heard an interesting stat....Out of the Jets 10 wins, only one has come against an oppenent with a winning record :bow:

BigStar
01-02-2005, 05:38 AM
Just heard an interesting stat....Out of the Jets 10 wins, only one has come against an oppenent with a winning record :bow:


:lol: thats awesome!!

FlyersGuy69
01-02-2005, 01:54 PM
man, I knew I should have picked Cincy over the Eagles. I just didn't trust the Bengals enough to pick them.

Sly Winkle
01-02-2005, 03:03 PM
Looks like this should be my worst week yet.

Fire Sather
01-02-2005, 05:42 PM
Tough loss, but we're in the playoffs. If we had to win the game, we would have because OT would have been played differently.

Sly Winkle
01-02-2005, 06:14 PM
It's looking like 5-10 for me before the Sunday nighter. :lol

Vic Rattlehead*
01-02-2005, 06:43 PM
Sunday, January 2

San Francisco at New England*
Cleveland at Houston*
Green Bay* at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina*
Pittsburgh at Buffalo*
Miami at Baltimore*
Minnesota* at Washington
Detroit* at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis*
Cincinnati at Philadelphia*
Atlanta at Seattle*
Tampa Bay* at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego*
Jacksonville* at Oakland --Curse the Jaguars for making me believe they were a playoff team. Oh well, there is always next year.
Indianapolis* at Denver
Dallas* at NY Giants :banghead:
7-8. Ouch

ATG
01-02-2005, 06:54 PM
Zednik 5-10 (167-89 with Giants left)
Sather 8-7 (162-93 with Giants left)
Alexander 6-9(160-94 with Cowboys left)
Obeysteve 9-6(162-93 with Cowboys left)
Koltsov 7-8(161-94 with Giants left)
Sam 6-9(160-95 with Giants left)

Well it seems that the cowboys hold my fate in the top 5 and also who gets 2nd place between Steve and Sather.This should be done in the playoffs to

Vomiting Kermit*
01-02-2005, 07:08 PM
San Francisco at New England
Cleveland at Houston
Green Bay at Chicago
New Orleans at Carolina
Pittsburgh at Buffalo
Miami at Baltimore
Minnesota at Washington
Detroit at Tennessee
NY Jets at St. Louis
Cincinnati at Philadelphia
Atlanta at Seattle
Tampa Bay at Arizona
Kansas City at San Diego
Jacksonville at Oakland
Indianapolis at Denver
Dallas at NY Giants
10-5

[/pwn]

Hockeyfan02
01-02-2005, 07:11 PM
10-5

[/pwn]

No 3-13 this week? ;)

Vomiting Kermit*
01-02-2005, 07:27 PM
No 3-13 this week? ;)
lol :joker:

Fire Sather
01-02-2005, 09:10 PM
Zednik 5-10 (167-89 with Giants left)
Sather 8-7 (162-93 with Giants left)
Alexander 6-9(160-94 with Cowboys left)
Obeysteve 9-6(162-93 with Cowboys left)
Koltsov 7-8(161-94 with Giants left)
Sam 6-9(160-95 with Giants left)

Well it seems that the cowboys hold my fate in the top 5 and also who gets 2nd place between Steve and Sather.This should be done in the playoffs to

No "Zeddy"? Lets go Giants!!! (cant beleive i said that)

ATG
01-02-2005, 10:30 PM
Stinkin cowboys blew it big time in the last two minutes.I went from second to sixth what a week

BigStar
01-03-2005, 07:51 AM
Playing for 2nd now :(

*NY Jets at St. Louis (If the Jets lose, I'm jumping off a bridge)


you still alive?? LOL

Fire Sather
01-03-2005, 01:13 PM
you still alive?? LOL

Since I was counting on Buffalo winning, and they lost.. Jets are in and I'm still alive.

ObeySteve
01-03-2005, 04:16 PM
We should continue this into the playoffs. We've modeled this after how the ESPN "experts" make their picks, and they include playoff picks in it.

Fire Sather
01-03-2005, 05:13 PM
We should continue this into the playoffs. We've modeled this after how the ESPN "experts" make their picks, and they include playoff picks in it.

some of us beat all of them, too.

Slats432
01-04-2005, 10:38 PM
Zed is the king...and he knows why. :yo:

Tuggy
01-04-2005, 10:39 PM
Zed is the king...and he knows why. :yo:

You guys want a room? :D :joker:

Slats432
01-04-2005, 11:07 PM
You guys want a room? :D :joker:
Bah...he just helped me with my picks to win my office pool. ;)

Fire Sather
01-05-2005, 11:26 AM
Bah...he just helped me with my picks to win my office pool. ;)

Hey, I told you Buffalo might lose!