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According to 2 edmonton media sources, Mike Comrie DID ask for a trade last summer, and hass played his last game in an oilers uniform. John Short reported that Comrie's agent Winter say he is demanding a trade, and their High pay raise demands are a ploy to get KLowe to trade him, this was backed by 1260 reporter Bryn Griffens(saying he had been sitting on this information for 2 days now). Rumour has it that 3 teams are interested in Mr. Comrie( ATL, PHI, and DET.). I am interested to see what your respective fans would offer for this pint sized dynamos service. The ATL rumour has a "Russian" comnig back if a trade were to go thru. Speculations????

WWW.Oilfans.com postings:

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=6503&prevloaded=1&rid=&S=e24740ef977a6767bca3b7281082e284&rev=&reveal=&start=0&count=15

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i really wouldn't believe that forum for a minute, there are some very good posters there but HF is the place to be

According to 2 edmonton media sources, Mike Comrie DID ask for a trade last summer, and hass played his last game in an oilers uniform. John Short reported that Comrie's agent Winter say he is demanding a trade, and their High pay raise demands are a ploy to get KLowe to trade him, this was backed by 1260 reporter Bryn Griffens(saying he had been sitting on this information for 2 days now). Rumour has it that 3 teams are interested in Mr. Comrie( ATL, PHI, and DET.). I am interested to see what your respective fans would offer for this pint sized dynamos service. The ATL rumour has a "Russian" comnig back if a trade were to go thru. Speculations????

WWW.Oilfans.com postings:

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=6503&prevloaded=1&rid=&S=e24740ef977a6767bca3b7281082e284&rev=&reveal=&start=0&count=15

http://oilfans.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=6512&rid=&S=e24740ef977a6767bca3b7281082e284#msg_57724

I would NEVER post Oilfans.com as a reliable source in a post like this. Try finding a more credible source than that.

Not a very good forum.

According to 2 edmonton media sources, Mike Comrie DID ask for a trade last summer, and hass played his last game in an oilers uniform. John Short reported that Comrie's agent Winter say he is demanding a trade, and their High pay raise demands are a ploy to get KLowe to trade him, this was backed by 1260 reporter Bryn Griffens(saying he had been sitting on this information for 2 days now). Rumour has it that 3 teams are interested in Mr. Comrie( ATL, PHI, and DET.). I am interested to see what your respective fans would offer for this pint sized dynamos service. The ATL rumour has a "Russian" comnig back if a trade were to go thru. Speculations????

WWW.Oilfans.com postings:

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Let me see which Russians in Atlanta are available to trade to Edmonton for Comrie: Ilya Nikulin, Kirill Safronov and Yuri Butsayev. Yep I'm sure those players are enough to get the deal done. :D

I would NEVER post Oilfans.com as a reliable source in a post like this. Try finding a more credible source than that.

Not a very good forum.


Again, the source was not www.oilfans.com, it was John Short, a respected edmonton media man, who has always been pretty bang on with his reports, and Bryn Griffens of the team 1260 radio, not oilfans posters. I emailed Mr. Griffens and Mr. Short to get some solid confirmation on this report, and am hoping to hear back from him soon. I will pass any information I receive if he can release it.

If Comrie has demanded a trade, then his value will continue to drop. How many players in his situation land his team good return. Unless your dealing with Mike Millbury, dont expect his exact value coming back to Edmonton.

The same demand was made public on the game broadcast last night during the Flames-Oilers pre-season tilt. It will be intersting what the Oilers get back in return. Names like Datsayuk, Zetterberg, etc. have been bounced around. I just can't see that happening. Small centers don't have much value. Especially small centers that make trade demands and have silly contract demands. Marc Savard got a crap prospect in return. I'm not saying the Oilers are going to get shafted like that, but prescident has been set so an argument can be made for that happening, especially when you take salary demands into question. I seriously doubt that a player like Datsayuk or Zetterberg would be the return on a hold out/locked out player.

The same demand was made public on the game broadcast last night during the Flames-Oilers pre-season tilt. It will be intersting what the Oilers get back in return. Names like Datsayuk, Zetterberg, etc. have been bounced around. I just can't see that happening. Small centers don't have much value. Especially small centers that make trade demands and have silly contract demands. Marc Savard got a crap prospect in return. I'm not saying the Oilers are going to get shafted like that, but prescident has been set so an argument can be made for that happening, especially when you take salary demands into question. I seriously doubt that a player like Datsayuk or Zetterberg would be the return on a hold out/locked out player.

To back up your point further, Danny Briere, less than a season removed from a 30 goal season, landed the Coyotes Chris Gratton, who had quite frankly fallen out of favor in Sabreland. While Comrie is undoubtedly better than Briere, Danny didn't have contract issues or problems with the team.

I believe Comrie will never play for Edmonton again. Not because he might have asked for a trade, but because Kevin Lowe locked him out of camp. That was the single dumbest thing Lowe could have done.

Comrie wanting to be at camp without a contract shows that he wants to get a deal done, and had the intentions of being under contract by the first game of the season. However, being locked out of camp was a blatant slap in Comrie's face, courtesy of Kevin Lowe.

*shakes head*

*shakes head*
Up-and-down :yo: or sideways :dunno: or randomly :rolly: ?

Anyways Comrie can demand more $, and can demand a trade, and can want to attend training camp without a contract. Doesn't mean it happens.

I have two questions:
1) Anybody think the Comrie would take less $ to sign elsewhere? - if Comrie was willing to sign a very reasonable three or four year contract elsewhere then his trade value would be high.
2) Should the Oil take five first round picks for the guy?

Now add Kovalchuk to the list of players that the Oiler faithful is expecting in return for Comrie. I think there are going to be some majorly disappointed people in Edmonton when this deal goes down.

my guess that the russian comment was mere wishful thinking on some oil fans part because there is no way Kovalchuck will be coming back for comrie not unless edmonton were to throw in Brewer, rita and 3 1sts. and i don't think any of the other russian born players would be sutable to edmonton's needs. as far as what Detroit would offer I can't see them offering up a player like fischer or Datsyuk so it would have to center around hulder and i don't know if edmonton would want a player who has yet to play in the NHL. But Philly could be interesting (if it is true) I am sure a williams for Comrie deal could work might needs some fine tunning and Woywitka would also definatly interest edmonton, but the question is what would it take to get a deal done. as far as the 3 teams here are my proposals

Atl - Mike Comrie
Edm - patrick Stefan , 4th round pick
logic - not much but Heatly, kolvachuck, and lehtonen are NOT available and Stefan is probably the only player that might remotly interest the oilers. Savard is a possability, but unlikley. I honestly think there will not be an EDM - ATL trade involving comrie.

Detroit - Mike Comrie
Edmonton - jiri Hudler, Mathieu Dandineault

Detroit gets a young center to immediatly replace Larionov, and eventually replace Yzerman. edmonton gets a young skilled center although he has to prove himself in the big league. Dandineault would do well with edmontons style of play and he may be a 5-6 d-man in detroit but edmonton also doesn't have Lidstrom, Hatcher, Chelios and Schnieder in front of Dandineault. I think Dandineault could be a very effective #3 guy in edmonton


Phi - Mike Comrie, Raffi torres, 2nd round pick
Edm - Justin Williams, Jeff woywitka, 4th round pick

this would probably be a dream trade for edmonton but that's about all it would probably amount to unless clarke is really interested in both Comrie and Torres. Torres could be a potential replacement for John Leclair next year. All players involved are young so age isn't really a factor. but Woywitka might be good for the oilers but clarke would not be eager to let him go.

Handzus and Seidenberg for Comrie

Gagne-Comrie-Williams
Pitkanen-Woywitka


Look good for the future? :handclap:

If John Short is saying Comrie has demanded a trade, then it's hard to dismiss.

As for Bryn Griffiths and his "down east sources", I'm a little more skeptical. Believing that Comrie's asked for a trade is one thing... but I kind of doubt Bryn was able to get anything reliable from his "down east sources". I find it likely that his sources on this are media counterparts, not anybody on the inside.

You know what'd be funny? If the Oilers traded him to Atlanta for Marc Savard. -well, funny for everybody except Oiler fans, but still pretty funny.

There's no way imo Kovalchuk is going anywhere, certainly not for Comrie. I'd suggest that Comrie's value is not far removed from Savard, although Edmonton won't deal him for that little (they can just let him sit if the value coming back isn't worthwhile).

Comrie's acting like a spoiled brat from the sounds of things. The Oilers are at least a bit responsible. I know that he had the VanRYn rule behind him, and they had to offer him the big money when he threatened to go ufa.

However, they gave him their best wingers, lots of playing time on the powerplay, and generally loaded up one line on which he was the centerpiece.

Seems to me it's like a parent giving their kid everything he wants, and then wondering why he's such an ass when he grows up.

I know, they gave Comrie all of that stuff and then he went out there and just did nothing with it. What an ingrate. The young small guy only went out and played his tail off. He may not be in a strong negotiating position as far as his contract status goes but that's ok, the Oilers can let him sit until whatever happens will happen, it isn't like they are actually trying to compete for the cup, they are just trying to stay in business.

I know, they gave Comrie all of that stuff and then he went out there and just did nothing with it. What an ingrate. The young small guy only went out and played his tail off. He may not be in a strong negotiating position as far as his contract status goes but that's ok, the Oilers can let him sit until whatever happens will happen, it isn't like they are actually trying to compete for the cup, they are just trying to stay in business.
Yeah, god forbid they spend millions & cannot even make the playoffs like the uh..........................................KIngs.

with stevey Y leaving practice early because of a sore knee, you can bet that the wings rumours will heat up. I personally think it could be a comrie for fischer trade but that has been beat to death around here before.

Ouch sammy, that was a good one, I mean the two situations have soooooo much relevance. I gues those reading comprehension classes haven't taken yet, huh? That's O.K. little camper, there is plenty of room in the world for "special" people like you. In fact, if you lose some weight and practice a whole bunch I bet you can even make their Olympics! Go get em tiger.

Oh, and it's alright with me that the Kings didn't make the playoffs last year, why does it bother you?

Ouch sammy, that was a good one, I mean the two situations have soooooo much relevance. I gues those reading comprehension classes haven't taken yet, huh? That's O.K. little camper, there is plenty of room in the world for "special" people like you. In fact, if you lose some weight and practice a whole bunch I bet you can even make their Olympics! Go get em tiger.

Oh, and it's alright with me that the Kings didn't make the playoffs last year, why does it bother you?
Geez, I didnt realize you were such a sensitive little boy. I'll be gentler next time..
BTW, what would you have Oil management do. Just give everybody whatever they want. Thats a good idea. Edmonton might then have a team in town for what, another year or two.
Grow up & realize there are fiscal realities with many small market teams if they have any hope of survival.
And by the way, there is relevence to the two situations. The relevence is as follows. The fact you spend a bunch of cash is very little guarantee of anything. Just look at your Kings, Rangers, Stars...etc

Now add Kovalchuk to the list of players that the Oiler faithful is expecting in return for Comrie. I think there are going to be some majorly disappointed people in Edmonton when this deal goes down.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Yes.. im sure alot of oiler fans are expecting kovalchuk..

Hudler and Dandenault for Comie seems fair. I think Dandenault would do better in Edmonton because his speed would be better utilized.

I don't know how high the Wings' staff thinks of Hudler but I think they might move him.

I don't think the Oilers will get market value because of the holdout and the fact that this is the 2nd time this has happened. I remember what people thought Marc Savard would go for (Datsyuk for one) but it ended up being for a prospect. And Savard is a comparable IMO player to Comrie.

Hudler and Dandenault for Comie seems fair. I think Dandenault would do better in Edmonton because his speed would be better utilized.

I don't know how high the Wings' staff thinks of Hudler but I think they might move him.

I don't think the Oilers will get market value because of the holdout and the fact that this is the 2nd time this has happened. I remember what people thought Marc Savard would go for (Datsyuk for one) but it ended up being for a prospect. And Savard is a comparable IMO player to Comrie.


Personally, I would take Comrie over Savard any day, and I have seen them both play a ton. That said, all things considered, they are reasonably comparable players - Comrie will get you more goals and Savard will get you more assists. Given that Lowe has played hardball so far with MC, I don't see him bending over too quickly to get a deal done unless it is one he feels can improve the team. I could see MC being moved for a prospect, but I think Lowe would prefer a deal combining MC with one of our surplus LW's to shore up the defence. I like Comrie for Fischer. Dandenault and Hudler doesn't sit well with me for some reason...how about Dandenault and Draper for Comrie and Moreau?

Yeah well... they can't be all like Jere Lehtinen.. ;)

Personally, I would take Comrie over Savard any day, and I have seen them both play a ton. That said, all things considered, they are reasonably comparable players - Comrie will get you more goals and Savard will get you more assists. Given that Lowe has played hardball so far with MC, I don't see him bending over too quickly to get a deal done unless it is one he feels can improve the team. I could see MC being moved for a prospect, but I think Lowe would prefer a deal combining MC with one of our surplus LW's to shore up the defence. I like Comrie for Fischer. Dandenault and Hudler doesn't sit well with me for some reason...how about Dandenault and Draper for Comrie and Moreau?

Yeah I like Comrie more as well but they aren't too far off in talent and size.

I'd prefer not to move Fischer since he's the only young proven d-man in Detroit. The defence looks scary now but in a year or 2 alot of them would be gone.

Draper? He's a UFA this year. I think the Hudler + Dandenault idea is better for the Oilers. The Dandenault + Draper deal might be better for Detroit actually. Moreau adds some grit and size while Comrie adds talent. Losing Draper and the chemistry on the grind line sucks but considering who's coming to Motown it would easily be worth it.

Yeah I like Comrie more as well but they aren't too far off in talent and size.

I'd prefer not to move Fischer since he's the only young proven d-man in Detroit. The defence looks scary now but in a year or 2 alot of them would be gone.

Draper? He's a UFA this year. I think the Hudler + Dandenault idea is better for the Oilers. The Dandenault + Draper deal might be better for Detroit actually. Moreau adds some grit and size while Comrie adds talent. Losing Draper and the chemistry on the grind line sucks but considering who's coming to Motown it would easily be worth it.

I think that Draper being a UFA could work for the Oilers. We have too many forwards as it is, and he could be a perfect Marchant-esque stopgap to provide some grit, leadership and PK work for the season until Stoll is ready. If he plays well, he could earn a new contract from Lowe - if not, he walks. Besides...we've got that lockout coming...

We need to dump some forwards...whether it be for a 1-year rental or a prospect that won't play doesn't matter too much to me - although I am not a Hudler fan - I think if we wanted him, we wouldn't have passed on him in the draft - time will tell if that was a mistake or not :rolly:

I believe Comrie will never play for Edmonton again. Not because he might have asked for a trade, but because Kevin Lowe locked him out of camp. That was the single dumbest thing Lowe could have done.

Comrie wanting to be at camp without a contract shows that he wants to get a deal done, and had the intentions of being under contract by the first game of the season. However, being locked out of camp was a blatant slap in Comrie's face, courtesy of Kevin Lowe.


locking him out was a hockey decision. why do you want comrie to skate on your top line in pre-season, then get traded a week into it, team policy is team policy and K. Lowe is not stupid, he is probably one of the smartest GM's in the league behind Burke in Vancouver (as much as I despise the Nucks, they have the greatest GM in hockey.)

Yeah I like Comrie more as well but they aren't too far off in talent and size.

I'd prefer not to move Fischer since he's the only young proven d-man in Detroit. The defence looks scary now but in a year or 2 alot of them would be gone.

Draper? He's a UFA this year. I think the Hudler + Dandenault idea is better for the Oilers. The Dandenault + Draper deal might be better for Detroit actually. Moreau adds some grit and size while Comrie adds talent. Losing Draper and the chemistry on the grind line sucks but considering who's coming to Motown it would easily be worth it.

If the Oilers got back Hudler in any deal, I think there would be revolt ending in a death by firing squad for KLowe. Not that Hudlers not a great prospect - its just that the Oilers passed on him - what, 3 or 4 times during his draft year. Still gives me the shakes to think about that day, having our first pick come around. Being exstatic that he was still available, then shocked to see the Oilers picked someone way down the rankings (Niinimaki, who actually sounds pretty good). Shortly after the Oilers traded Hecht for two early picks in round 2 - Hudler still available, surely the Oilers will bite (thinking, wow Lowe you have nerves of steel, you the man...) but no, take Deslauriers. Second of the Hecht picks comes up - surely this time....no. By this time its actually starting to occur to me that the Oilers might not even want to pick up Hudler. I banish the thought - too improbable. But I resign myself to the inevitable that in the next pick, someone will grab him. Unbelievably, the Oilers own round two pick comes up and Hudler is still available. Ok, clearly not just the Oilers but the whole NHL has decided there's some knock on Hudler that the pre-draft media punditry did not reflect in their draft preview pieces. Whatever logic the NHL draft teams are using, Hudler has fallen so far that - by any yardstick, he's a bargain. I'm literally dancing with my son in front of the TV to think that the Oilers will pick him up with a late second round pick. Instead they get a big defense prospect from a US league I'd never heard of (Matt Greene) and I'm ready to shoot myself. (Greene also sounds OK, but to me it seems such a waste since the Oilers seem to be able to get such good mileage from overage Europeans).

Finally, mercifully, Detroit puts me out of my misery. Afterwards, the post draft reviews all say that Detroit - Stanley Cup champions and dynasty builders - picked up the steal of the draft.

So....Hudler for Comrie? Lowe would never. (Or if he did, I'd just love to hear his justification).

Why does everyone use the Savard trade as some kind of precedent for trading Comrie?? Will 39 year old centers who will be a UFA command a top goalie prospect, a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd like in the Oates deal?

Come on people, if Comrie gets traded it will be for good value since they don't have to trade him and his co$t won't be that high for most teams.

Let me see which Russians in Atlanta are available to trade to Edmonton for Comrie: Ilya Nikulin, Kirill Safronov and Yuri Butsayev. Yep I'm sure those players are enough to get the deal done. :D

maybe Slava Kozlov? Comrie and 10 1st rounders for Kovalchuk?

That's O.K. little camper, there is plenty of room in the world for "special" people like you. In fact, if you lose some weight and practice a whole bunch I bet you can even make their Olympics!


pretty classy, making fun by using the special olympics. Obviously, you have never met such children, or you would not be sprouting garbage like that.

grow up, stick to hockey.

He may not be in a strong negotiating position as far as his contract status goes but that's ok, the Oilers can let him sit until whatever happens will happen, it isn't like they are actually trying to compete for the cup, they are just trying to stay in business.

How many teams are willing to do *anything* to win the Cup?

*ZERO*

If there is a team willing to pay any price to strengthen their lineup, please call Ted Leonsis and let him know, so that he can deal Jagr there. That team would probably also like to help the Stars with their Bill Guerin/Pierre Turgeon situation.

You said before that it's sad for the NHL that the Oilers would rather fight contract with Comrie than put their best possible lineup on the ice. Maybe in a sense that's true. But it's a small symptom of a much bigger leaguewide problem. Isn't it also sad that teams are trying to give away some of the world's best hockey players, and can't find anybody willing to take them?

I don't want to debate with you eddie, you make me feel too sad. After our last debate over this when you said (correctly) that the Oilers were simply trying to stay aflot until after the CBA it really bummed me out. I mean, I know you are right, it just proves that what I have been saying all along is true. It is hard to watch one of the most storied franchises in the history of our league go from a team that you could never count out to a team that is simply trying to stay afloat.

As for trying to compare this deal with Jagr and his truly ludicrous contract, you are better than that.

Now add Kovalchuk to the list of players that the Oiler faithful is expecting in return for Comrie. I think there are going to be some majorly disappointed people in Edmonton when this deal goes down.

No realistic oiler fan expects Kovalchuk back for comrie. The listed idea was comrie and Moreau or Chiemra for Stefan and exelby

I don't want to debate with you eddie, you make me feel to sad. After our last debate over this when you said (correctly) that the Oilers were simply trying to stay aflot until after the CBA it really bummed me out. I mean, I know you are right, it just proves that what I have been saying all along is true. It is hard to watch one of the most storied franchises in the history of our league go from a team that you could never count out to a team that is simply trying to stay afloat.

As for trying to compare this deal with Jagr and his truly ludicrous contract, you are better than that.

I'm not trying to compare Comrie and Jagr's trade value. I'm trying to highlight that dollars, not competition, has become the main focus for almost every team in the league, even some of the richest. Many teams around the league are trying- without success- to get rid of superstars. Would that situation exist in a league where competition was the primary focus? Of course not.

The Oilers aren't *just* trying to stay afloat. They're trying to build a team that will be competitive in the near future, like a lot of other teams. Unlike some of those teams, a more rational CBA is a necessary part of the Oilers' building plans. And unlike many teams that are building for the future, the Oilers have been able to put a competitive team on the ice.

Personally, I would take Comrie over Savard any day, and I have seen them both play a ton. That said, all things considered, they are reasonably comparable players - Comrie will get you more goals and Savard will get you more assists. Given that Lowe has played hardball so far with MC, I don't see him bending over too quickly to get a deal done unless it is one he feels can improve the team. I could see MC being moved for a prospect, but I think Lowe would prefer a deal combining MC with one of our surplus LW's to shore up the defence. I like Comrie for Fischer. Dandenault and Hudler doesn't sit well with me for some reason...how about Dandenault and Draper for Comrie and Moreau?


Yuck Draper and dandenault for comrie and Moreau. Geez man and you call yourself a oiler fan.

lets correct something. The oilers are not just trying to stay afloat. They are trying to win a cup. Period. I know one of the owners and have met lowe a few times. I have sat in the skyreach box and been in the dressing room a few times.

The owners put unbelievable pressure on lowe to make the playoffs and build a winner. They have to be better this year or heads will roll. They are one of the best run organizations in sports ( #10 out of over 300 according to espn, #1 in hockey ). Lowe has 20-30 bosses, all of whom are oiler fans. These guys put up significant portions of their self-earned millions to keep the team and to watch a winner. These guys are not like the wall-mart heirs who play hockey owner a few times a year as a distraction. These guys bleed copper and blue.

The same demand was made public on the game broadcast last night during the Flames-Oilers pre-season tilt. It will be intersting what the Oilers get back in return. Names like Datsayuk, Zetterberg, etc. have been bounced around. I just can't see that happening. Small centers don't have much value. Especially small centers that make trade demands and have silly contract demands. Marc Savard got a crap prospect in return. I'm not saying the Oilers are going to get shafted like that, but prescident has been set so an argument can be made for that happening, especially when you take salary demands into question. I seriously doubt that a player like Datsayuk or Zetterberg would be the return on a hold out/locked out player.

There is no way in burning hell that Comrie can land Datysuk or Zetterberg. Zetterberg and Datysuk are sooo much better than Comrie it ain't even funny. Hell, i don't even think big bert can land those 2.

lets correct something. The oilers are not just trying to stay afloat. They are trying to win a cup. Period. I know one of the owners and have met lowe a few times. I have sat in the skyreach box and been in the dressing room a few times.

The owners put unbelievable pressure on lowe to make the playoffs and build a winner. They have to be better this year or heads will roll. They are one of the best run organizations in sports ( #10 out of over 300 according to espn, #1 in hockey ). Lowe has 20-30 bosses, all of whom are oiler fans. These guys put up significant portions of their self-earned millions to keep the team and to watch a winner. These guys are not like the wall-mart heirs who play hockey owner a few times a year as a distraction. These guys bleed copper and blue.

Really? What happened to Geurin, Niinimia, Poti, Cujo and the rest then?

Why does everyone use the Savard trade as some kind of precedent for trading Comrie?? Will 39 year old centers who will be a UFA command a top goalie prospect, a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd like in the Oates deal?

Come on people, if Comrie gets traded it will be for good value since they don't have to trade him and his co$t won't be that high for most teams.

think again. Comrie is not going to net that great of a return as he has been nothing but disruptive to his current team and organization. Now what GM is going to give up a player like Datsyuk or Zetterberg for that kind of player? I mean, it's not like his numbers are that great even. I think Hudler and a 2nd from Detroit would be the most they can expect to be offered for the guy but I have a feeling this one is going to drag on and on.

Up-and-down :yo: or sideways :dunno: or randomly :rolly: ?

Anyways Comrie can demand more $, and can demand a trade, and can want to attend training camp without a contract. Doesn't mean it happens.

I have two questions:
1) Anybody think the Comrie would take less $ to sign elsewhere? - if Comrie was willing to sign a very reasonable three or four year contract elsewhere then his trade value would be high.
2) Should the Oil take five first round picks for the guy?

Mike Comrie is not worth 5 first round picks. Maybe 1 first round pick out of the top ten and a low-end prospect.

Atl - Mike Comrie
Edm - patrick Stefan , 4th round pick

Detroit - Mike Comrie
Edmonton - jiri Hudler, Mathieu Dandineault

Both of those suggestions are very plausible, IMO, though, Atlanta would likely need to send a kid Dman (Foster?) along with Stefan rather than a mid-round pick.

I would not like Atlanta's lack of size down the middle however with both Comrie and Savard.

Wish my Isles would jump into the mix, they could really add some talent to their first line. :(

Really? What happened to Geurin, Niinimia, Poti, Cujo and the rest then?

You just had to ask.

Guerin: Traded to Boston for Anson Carter, 2nd rnd Pick and the right to swap firsts with Boston, that first rounder became Ales Hemsky, who will be a better offensive producer than Zetterberg or Datsyuk, bank on it.

Carter was then dealt with Pise (now in Europe) for Cory Cross and Radek Dvorak.

Niinimaa was dealt for Torres and Isbister (no telling yet if this was good or bad).

Poti traded with Rem Murray for Mike York, Oilers won this trade. Poti is a good offensive d-man but is way too soft, Ranger fans will agree.

Cujo was lost as a UFA, but the Oilers beat Colorado in 1998 only because they kept Cujo instead of trading him. I should add that Toronto, a big market team, also lost Cujo for nothing, and the Stars lost Hatcher for nothing, and countless other teams have lost great players for nothing.

There is no way in burning hell that Comrie can land Datysuk or Zetterberg. Zetterberg and Datysuk are sooo much better than Comrie it ain't even funny. Hell, i don't even think big bert can land those 2.
did u even read Lanny's post?

Hudler and Dandenault for Comie seems fair. I think Dandenault would do better in Edmonton because his speed would be better utilized.

I don't know how high the Wings' staff thinks of Hudler but I think they might move him.

I don't think the Oilers will get market value because of the holdout and the fact that this is the 2nd time this has happened. I remember what people thought Marc Savard would go for (Datsyuk for one) but it ended up being for a prospect. And Savard is a comparable IMO player to Comrie.

This isn't Comrie's 1st run-in with the contract issues...he screwed edmonton into signing him or losing him by going to the CHL. Now he's screwing them again.

Personally i hate players with this kind of attitude, and i would not want comrie on my team.

I think they will get a good prospect and an NHL roster player.

I know, he screwed them and then went out and did nothing. He made them pay him more than a million dollars per year and then only went out there and scored as much or more than what allot of players being payed three times as much as he is did. What an ingrate.

I know, he screwed them and then went out and did nothing. He made them pay him more than a million dollars per year and then only went out there and scored as much or more than what allot of players being payed three times as much as he is did. What an ingrate.

He is an ingrate. He could have just signed with the oilers, but no, he went to the CHL to get more leverage so he would get more money. Make them pay more money for a guy that never played a damn game in the NHL.

He is an ingrate.

I think it's kind of sad that he grew up an Oiler fan and idolizing guys like Doug Weight and he's willing to sever ties with the team over money. I'm still a little bitter over him leaving Michigan after just a year or two to go play juniors.

I know, he screwed them and then went out and did nothing. He made them pay him more than a million dollars per year and then only went out there and scored as much or more than what allot of players being payed three times as much as he is did. What an ingrate.
Do you have any clue how much he got paid last year & what his stats were? Obviously not.
You are so obviously a donkey who knows nothing about this whole issue.

I'd hate to say this,

Although I am far from a big Comrie supporter int his situation...I strongly feel most of you league wide posters underrate this KID.

Thats right Mike is still a KID, thus the lack of maturity and the ego, but you can't argue his lack of skill and i think he plays determined 85% of the time so don't go calling him lazy.

To say all Comrie would get is Stefan and a 4th from Atlanta is a joke. Stefan although far from a bust and still somewhat intriguing would not in no way get a deal done. If I am KLO i am telling Don Waddell that if you want Comrie here's the deal:

Atlanta: Comrie and Moreau

Edmonton: Exelby and Gamache

That is the best deal for both teams that i can think of right now, if Atlanta can afford to sign an additional d-man left in Free Agency (Klee or Berard) and if Atlanta can take on the contracts of Moreau and Comrie.

The Philadelphia situation is different. The best way to go about this is to flat out avoid dealing with them unless Clarke has Pitkanen involved. Woywitka although a good replacement for Smith down the road isn't a dynamic force like Comrie was or will be. Exelby is higher on my list than Woywitka but Pitkanen would top that list. Justin Williams is good but not good enough to get me to sign the dotted line...i think he is the next John LeClair (couple good years, injury trouble and contract issues).
Unless Simon Gagne or Joni Pitkanen are coming are way avoid dealing with the Flyers.

I think Detroit follows a similar story as Philly but Dandenault and Datsyuk for Comrie and Moreau should get it done and i would be happy with that. I don't want Hudler and you guys are too high on Datsyuk and Zetterberg so i don't see a deal in the near future.

I posted a long peice about who i thought the Oilers could get for Comrie and Moreau in another post called "what would your team offer for Comie and Moreau," check that out and see what you figure!!!

I'd hate to say this,


Atlanta: Comrie and Moreau

Edmonton: Exelby and Gamache

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That is an unbelievably bad offer.Gamache has all the earmarkings of a career AHL'r (yes I know his stats were good last year) & Exelby may turn out to a 4th or 5th D guy.
Horrible, just horrible.

If Comrie has demanded a trade, then his value will continue to drop. How many players in his situation land his team good return. Unless your dealing with Mike Millbury, dont expect his exact value coming back to Edmonton.

I agree with what you say but that isn't necisarrily true. Bure netted us Jovo but that may have been the exemption, never mind that Bure was one of the leagues best at the time. I figure alot of teams would be interested in a young scoring center which would bouy his value. If Van didn't already have a smallish centers in morrison and Reid I'd be all up in here proposing deals. shy.

Now add Kovalchuk to the list of players that the Oiler faithful is expecting in return for Comrie. I think there are going to be some majorly disappointed people in Edmonton when this deal goes down.

in return for Comrie. For what it is worth as well, not everyone is confident that the person who posted on the forum at oilfans is Bryn Griffiths from the Team 1260.

To get Kovalchuk (which I would never expect) or Zetterberg or any of these other big name players some fans have mentioned it would take more players then just Comrie.

my guess that the russian comment was mere wishful thinking on some oil fans part because there is no way Kovalchuck will be coming back for comrie not unless edmonton were to throw in Brewer, rita and 3 1sts. and i don't think any of the other russian born players would be sutable to edmonton's needs.


the poster claiming to be Bryn Griffiths.

To get Kovalchuk (which I would never expect) or Zetterberg or any of these other big name players some fans have mentioned it would take more players then just Comrie.
Comrie in terms of value is easily worth Zetterberg.

Just a Comrie update. John Short replied to my email, and sounds very certain on Mr. Comrie's fate:

"Dr, Gonzo....your name says it all about Comrie. He is gone.

Call the show tonight and we'll talk about it.

469-5200.... The best time to call would be at 5:20..."

John

So all you Edmonton people tune into 930 am CJCA for the "AnysportAnytime" show from 4pm to 6:30pm(MT), or tune into teh webcast @ http://www.am930thelight.com/ . Hopefully he can shed some light on this issue for us. :handclap:

The demand around the league for Comrie isn't that high. He's not a dominant offensive or physical force, he's not that good defensively and he's small. Very small.
Also, come contract time he's forced his team's back against the wall TWICE.

I'd compare him with Marc Savard. Each goes from having a 60+ point season to a so-so injury plagued season where they would average about 50-55 points if they could have played a few more games.

Comrie is at best(currently), your average 2nd line center in the NHL. Play him on a team like Boston or Philly where he's only going to get 15 minutes a game, and he'll get probably in the range of 50 points. Not bad, but those guys aren't exactly hard to find in todays NHL. There are very few teams in this league where he'd get more minutes playing as the top center on the team. There won't be a big return on Comrie, that's for sure. He'll break Lowe down to the point where he just wants to dump him for whatever he can get if he doesn't stop his hold-out in the very near future.

locking him out was a hockey decision. why do you want comrie to skate on your top line in pre-season, then get traded a week into it, team policy is team policy and K. Lowe is not stupid, he is probably one of the smartest GM's in the league behind Burke in Vancouver (as much as I despise the Nucks, they have the greatest GM in hockey.)

It might be a hockey decision, but it was a poor hockey decision. It all but sealed the deal that Comrie will never play as an Oiler again.

Comrie wanting to be in camp without a contract is not a sign he will get traded, but rather a sign that he and his agent will get a deal done with Lowe.

Lowe slapped Comrie in the face, bottom line.

Unless Simon Gagne or Joni Pitkanen are coming are way avoid dealing with the Flyers.


Even before this recent holdout Comrie's trade value was no where near getting Pitkanen or Gagne. After this holdout you'd be lucky to get anything near his real trade value. I think the Oilers want to get rid of him and will jump at the first decent proposal.

Actually, unlike you my simple friend, I never post without knowing what I am talking about unless it is to ask a question. See Sammy, that is what adults do, do cry though you will learn as you grow up.

He scored more than 40 points last year AND he was paid less than $1.75 mill per year. That means that he was paid less than allot of people who are supposed to be scoring threats and scored allot more than them. He also has scored over 60 points in his short career, that means that if Prospal is worth near $4mill per year that a guy like Comrie should be worth at least the $2 that he is asking. Of course, that is just my opinion and it isn't any better than anyone elses, it also isn't worth any less and that seems to be where you are having a problem. By the way, your constantly stalking me around the boards might work for some of your other "friends" but I hate to let you down, it won't work for me. I am flattered though.

The demand around the league for Comrie isn't that high. He's not a dominant offensive or physical force, he's not that good defensively and he's small. Very small.
Also, come contract time he's forced his team's back against the wall TWICE.

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Comrie is light years beyond Savard. How many 30 goal seasons has Savard had? Comrie scored 30 in his first full season, which is darn impressive if you ask me.

I think the kid can score 85 - 90 one day soon.

He scored more than 40 points last year AND he was paid less than $1.75 mill per year.

For the record, Mike Comrie was paid a base of $1.025 million last year PLUS bonuses of $3.5 million.

It might be a hockey decision, but it was a poor hockey decision. It all but sealed the deal that Comrie will never play as an Oiler again.

Comrie wanting to be in camp without a contract is not a sign he will get traded, but rather a sign that he and his agent will get a deal done with Lowe.

Lowe slapped Comrie in the face, bottom line.

You need to get past this. Lowe won't let Comrie attend camp because of team policy, they aren't the only team with this policy either. Smyth at one time was also "locked out" when he didn't have a contract. It's not a slap in the face, it's reality.

Both of those suggestions are very plausible, IMO, though, Atlanta would likely need to send a kid Dman (Foster?) along with Stefan rather than a mid-round pick.

I would not like Atlanta's lack of size down the middle however with both Comrie and Savard.

Wish my Isles would jump into the mix, they could really add some talent to their first line. :(


I take it you're not worried about the Isles ability to sign Comrie?

I read that he didn't recieve most over $1.75mill. Those may have been what his bonuses would have paid him but not what he actually made. Can you show me a link that says how much he actually made. I would be curious to see as I am going by something I read at the end of the season.

Actually, unlike you my simple friend, I never post without knowing what I am talking about unless it is to ask a question. See Sammy, that is what adults do, do cry though you will learn as you grow up.

He scored more than 40 points last year AND he was paid less than $1.75 mill per year.

Actually..... you have no idea what you're talking about and pulled that $1.75 mill number out of your a@%.

Think before you post, idiot.

P.S. The Special Olympics joke was beyond tacky. Get some class.

I read that he didn't recieve most over $1.75mill. Those may have been what his bonuses would have paid him but not what he actually made. Can you show me a link that says how much he actually made. I would be curious to see as I am going by something I read at the end of the season.

http://www.slam.ca/Slam030912/nhl_edm-cp.html

I take it you're not worried about the Isles ability to sign Comrie?

I'm worried about the Isles ability to sign a towel boy. :p

Of course, any acquisition (by any team) would need to be made with the understanding/assurance that the guy won't continue to be a perennial pain in the butt, contract-wise.

My point Crew is this: if NYI (or any other team) is going to wait around for the perfect player - 23 y/o, perfect personality, mature beyond his years, already averaging 80+ pts. per year, and inexpensive - before pursuing trade possibilities, they will NEVER make a move. Because those players come around very infrequently. And when they do, they are not moved.

***

The idea that Comrie is a "second liner at best" is baffling. Are we talking about on an NHL team or an all-star/fantasy team? And, if one assumes a ceiling of around 50 pts. for him, that means that he has plateaued at age 23. Could happen, but that's not the hunch here. It is interesting what a diverse range of opinions people have about this guy. Personally, I don't think Marc Savard's name belongs in the same sentence as Comrie. The projection here, for what it is worth, is that Comrie becomes a Rod Brind'amour-type, as his career evolves (and he becomes a more complete player). And that is not bad, at all.

Blow me you tool. I didn't pull it "out of my ass". You must be quite an idiot to have taken it as an attack on the special olympics. You should be ashamed of yourself for even implying that you insipid moron. How stupid can you be? I can answer that for you but why bother.

Thanks for the thread.

As for you and your "assumptions" you can take them and shove them where your head is. It's pretty lame that you would even think that.

I'm worried about the Isles ability to sign a towel boy. :p

Of course, any acquisition (by any team) would need to be made with the understanding/assurance that the guy won't continue to be a perennial pain in the butt, contract-wise.

My point Crew is this: if NYI (or any other team) is going to wait around for the perfect player - 23 y/o, perfect personality, mature beyond his years, already averaging 80+ pts. per year, and inexpensive - before pursuing trade possibilities, they will NEVER make a move. Because those players come around very infrequently. And when they do, they are not moved.

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The idea that Comrie is a "second liner at best" is baffling. Are we talking about on an NHL team or an all-star/fantasy team? And, if one assumes a ceiling of around 50 pts. for him, that means that he has plateaued at age 23. Could happen, but that's not the hunch here. It is interesting what a diverse range of opinions people have about this guy. Personally, I don't think Marc Savard's name belongs in the same sentence as Comrie. The projection here, for what it is worth, is that Comrie becomes a Rod Brind'amour-type, as his career evolves (and he becomes a more complete player). And that is not bad, at all.

I completely agree with you on all your points, with regard to Comrie's top end, etc. I'm not sure, however, that I see him on the Island. The main issues for me are size and the position he plays. I've never agreed with the idea that Yashin, after 10 years in the league, can be succesfully moved to the wing. Moreover, I'm much more concerned about our lack of size and grit up front then I am about our lack of scoring.

Moreover, I'm much more concerned about our lack of size and grit up front then I am about our lack of scoring.

So I want more offense, you want more size/grit.

Sounds like we want Todd Bertuzzi. Doh!

:blush: :eek: :cry: :angryfire

So I want more offense, you want more size/grit.

Sounds like we want Todd Bertuzzi. Doh!

:blush: :eek: :cry: :angryfire


Or Danny Heatley, another player the EVIL ONE could have had. To a lessor extent, Pyatt and Olli J. could have also filled the bill.

No worries though. We do have Kvasha. :rolleyes:

Comrie's a fine young scorer, and I hope the Oilers get big value, but some of the trade suggestions I've seen have been out of this world. Currently, there are three young players holding out, Gaborik, Havlat and Comrie. I've read in several spots (tsn for one) that Brad Richards' contract will affact these three.

What? Can we seriously consider Comrie on a level with Richards? Gaborik? Havlat? There's no way.

Mike Comrie has had a 33 goal season and a 20 goal season, and he's a terrific young scorer. From his draft year, he is (I believe) third in scoring with 61 goals. However, what else does he bring? He's not a big player, isn't God in the faceoff circle, and although he does get in the thick of things he can also be provoked and taken off his game.

imo Comrie's value is less than the numbers he's put on the board. Let me ask you something: say you have a high draft pick next summer, and you're being offered Comrie, Richards, Havlat and Gaborik.

Who are you NOT going to take? If they trade Comrie, what will come back is going to look alot more like Petr Cajanek than it will Ilya Kovalchuk.

Handzus and Seidenberg for Comrie

Gagne-Comrie-Williams
Pitkanen-Woywitka


Look good for the future? :handclap:

I wouldn't give Handzus for Comrie straight up
Comrie plays NO D and does not fit into the Hitch two way system - plus the Flyers just drafted two centers and have 4 plus Recchi who is being moved back to center on a trail basis. Keep dreaming - big NO thanks from Philly

lowetide, I am not sure why you are so sour on comrie. He outscored havlat by a significant margin two years ago and was only 7 behind gaborik that year. Last year, he was on pace to outscore both players before breaking his thumb. I know that there are other ways to measure a player but I would say that comrie has more grit than either of those two and he led his team in +/- which is something the other two cannot say.

IMO, he is on a similar level as gaborik and better than havlat. They all play a similar game (small but fiesty) but comrie is a better scorer than havlat.

lowetide, I am not sure why you are so sour on comrie. He outscored havlat by a significant margin two years ago and was only 7 behind gaborik that year. Last year, he was on pace to outscore both players before breaking his thumb. I know that there are other ways to measure a player but I would say that comrie has more grit than either of those two and he led his team in +/- which is something the other two cannot say.

IMO, he is on a similar level as gaborik and better than havlat. They all play a similar game (small but fiesty) but comrie is a better scorer than havlat.


I'm not sour on Comrie, here's hoping he signs and is back soon. He's got soft hands, has a scorer's sense of where to be, and although he's not fast he's a smart player.

However, imo he's definitely a touch below the others, and his value in a trade at this very instant would be nowhere near what some people believe it is. Comrie's 5'9, Havlat is 6'1, Gaborik is 6'1, Richards is 6'1, so the others aren't exactly small but fiesty.

Comrie is light years beyond Savard. How many 30 goal seasons has Savard had? Comrie scored 30 in his first full season, which is darn impressive if you ask me.

I think the kid can score 85 - 90 one day soon.

Well if we look at Savard's stats they are pretty impressive:
1980-81 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 76 28 47 75 47 3 0 0 0 0
1981-82 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 32 87 119 82 15 11 7 18 52
1982-83 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 78 35 86 121 99 13 8 9 17 22
1983-84 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 75 37 57 94 71 5 1 3 4 9
1984-85 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 79 38 67 105 56 15 9 20 29 20
1985-86 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 47 69 116 111 3 4 1 5 6
1986-87 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 70 40 50 90 108 4 1 0 1 12
1987-88 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 80 44 87 131 95 5 4 3 7 17
1988-89 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 58 23 59 82 110 16 8 11 19 10
1989-90 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 60 27 53 80 56 20 7 15 22 41
1990-91 Montreal Canadiens NHL 70 28 31 59 52 13 2 11 13 35
1991-92 Montreal Canadiens NHL 77 28 42 70 73 11 3 9 12 8
1992-93 Montreal Canadiens NHL 63 16 34 50 90 14 0 5 5 4
1993-94 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 74 18 28 46 106 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Tampa-Bay Lightning NHL 31 6 11 17 10 -- -- -- -- --
1994-95 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 12 4 4 8 8 16 7 11 18 10
1995-96 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 69 13 35 48 102 10 1 2 3 8
1996-97 Chicago Blackhawks NHL 64 9 18 27 60 6 0 2 2 2

The last five numbers are playoffs. Of course a lot of these were in the high scoring 80's before goaltenders ballonned with equipment. Still these numbers show a nifty determined small (5'10, 170lbs) center with a great skill set can make things happen.

As I post this I notice there seems to be some confusion and Marc Savard is mentioned as well. Why would anybody introduce him into this?

I wouldn't give Handzus for Comrie straight up
Comrie plays NO D and does not fit into the Hitch two way system - plus the Flyers just drafted two centers and have 4 plus Recchi who is being moved back to center on a trail basis. Keep dreaming - big NO thanks from Philly

Works for me. I wouldn't give Comrie for Handzus either. Handzus will be a 2nd liner at best, and he might be too slow to play Oiler style hockey.

And for the record, Comrie actually does play some D. Of course, he'll never win a Selke, but he gets by. If you're basing this conclusion on his -18 last season, then you're mistaken. He got most of his minus after he came back from his broken thumb.

Let me ask you something: say you have a high draft pick next summer, and you're being offered Comrie, Richards, Havlat and Gaborik.

Answer: I'd take each of them in exchange for a high draft pick.

Admittedly, your's truly has not paid much attention to next summer's draft, and with the exception of Ovechkin, have heard that next year's crop may be relatively weak.

But - generally speaking - unless you have a Lemieux, Lindros, or more recently, a Heatley of Kovo sitting in front of you (read: a can't miss impact plpayer), why wouldn't you go with the safer bet? Namely a guy in his early 20s, who is relatively inexpensive and has produced in the NHL?

Your point is taken. Comrie would be third or fourth on that list for me. But, he is a greater asset than a majority of 1st round draft picks, IMO, based on talent+NHL production+age.

If John Short is saying Comrie has demanded a trade, then it's hard to dismiss.

As for Bryn Griffiths and his "down east sources", I'm a little more skeptical. Believing that Comrie's asked for a trade is one thing... but I kind of doubt Bryn was able to get anything reliable from his "down east sources". I find it likely that his sources on this are media counterparts, not anybody on the inside.

You know what'd be funny? If the Oilers traded him to Atlanta for Marc Savard. -well, funny for everybody except Oiler fans, but still pretty funny.

I would lmao... good call.. hehe

Works for me. I wouldn't give Comrie for Handzus either. Handzus will be a 2nd liner at best, and he might be too slow to play Oiler style hockey.

And for the record, Comrie actually does play some D. Of course, he'll never win a Selke, but he gets by. If you're basing this conclusion on his -18 last season, then you're mistaken. He got most of his minus after he came back from his broken thumb.

I was unaware that thumbs were a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness in general :p

Seriously, saying he isn't going to win a selke is like saying Sean Cronin isn't going to make the HHOF... (How many people are old enough to remember Cronin? show of hands -- 3? ok I feel better)

I wouldn't give Handzus for Comrie straight up


Agreed.

Blow me you tool. I didn't pull it "out of my ass". You must be quite an idiot to have taken it as an attack on the special olympics. You should be ashamed of yourself for even implying that you insipid moron. How stupid can you be? I can answer that for you but why bother.

Thanks for the thread.

As for you and your "assumptions" you can take them and shove them where your head is. It's pretty lame that you would even think that.
You are so thick & uninformed its beyond amusing. Even when faced with uncontrovertible facts you still argue.
You are really quite pathetic.

I was unaware that thumbs were a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness in general :p

Of his -18 last season, -14 of it was in the 28 games he played with a cast on his hand. While thumbs aren't a major source of on-ice positioning or defensive awareness, they *are* a factor in puck control. Comrie made a lot of giveaways during that time, and the plus-minus is also in large part because he wasn't picking up a whole lot on the "plus" side during that time.

Comrie and Moreau ---------- for ----------- Stefan and Exelby

...the beat goes on...

can't have other message board as a source.

this thread is closed.