Canada and the NFL

roast
01-21-2005, 08:37 PM
Reading some of the posts about the upcoming games, i see alot from Canadian posters. Does the NFL get alot of coverage in Canada, and how did you become a fan of a particular team?

Tuggy
01-21-2005, 08:42 PM
We have 3 major sports channels here in Canada and all of them have quite a bit of coverage. TSN picks up Primetime, Countdown etc. I had NFL Sunday ticket, so I never really missed a game all year.

The Pats were the first team I started watching back in the early 90's, so I started to follow them. Drew Bledsoe was my idol for a while :innocent:.

Plus I get the NFL network aswell, along with the internet and American stations I would say we get just as much coverage here as you do down there.

chris_dub
01-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Being on the West Coast, we unfortunetly get ever single Seahawks game. Even if a crucial Divisional game is going on elsewhere in the League, they'll still show the Dolpins/Seahawks game.

So that really sucks. I would get NFL Sunday Ticket, but I work Sunday's so its pointless. But my store has a TV, so I get to watch the games anyways. Even if it's another Bills/Hawks crucial matchup...

ObeySteve
01-21-2005, 08:54 PM
A lot more Canadians are NFL fans than I would have assumed before coming to this board.

Anyway, looks like people are generally fans of the team they are closest to geographically, even if that team is 5+ hours away.

http://www.nflcanada.com/NFLCanada/CanadianRoots/canadasfavouriteteam.html

GoM
01-21-2005, 08:56 PM
A lot more Canadians are NFL fans than I would have assumed before coming to this board.

Anyway, looks like people are generally fans of the team they are closest to geographically, even if that team is 5+ hours away.

http://www.nflcanada.com/NFLCanada/CanadianRoots/canadasfavouriteteam.html

I should live in Manitoba

;)

littleHossa
01-21-2005, 09:27 PM
I should live in Manitoba

;)
Ya the Broncos are also my favourite team. The Bills would be it but they suck, as for the Broncos I just have a thing for them.

GoM
01-21-2005, 09:34 PM
Ya the Broncos are also my favourite team. The Bills would be it but they suck, as for the Broncos I just have a thing for them.

Holy kamoly

3 Broncos fans on HF...

Yeah, half of Toronto likes Buffalo. I went to a Bills game, it was fun..but...yeah.

First NFL game I watched was the 98-99 Broncos-Falcons super bowl...Broncos won, so I adopted them as my team...once I pick a team, I stick with em, so now I love em :)

Dave is a killer
01-21-2005, 09:40 PM
Canada LOVES Green Bay ... why am I not surprised ... Green Bay is the anti-corporate football team, just makes sense

Sly Winkle
01-21-2005, 09:48 PM
I took a liking to Mark Brunell years back.. and started following the Jags.

My dad and brother are Colts fans.

NFL Sunday Ticket rules. :thumbu: Thankfully we have two digital boxes so none of us miss our game.

Vomiting Kermit*
01-21-2005, 09:52 PM
I can't watch the CFL on a regular basis like I can the NFL. Plus, it doesn't hurt to get every Pats game on satellite every weekend and the multiple others games going on. ^_^

Mathletic
01-21-2005, 10:02 PM
the coverage of the NFL is not worth crap in Canada. Each time you hear someone from CBC or TSN talking of the NFL they always end up saying that the CFL is better. The only coverage we have of the NFL is from NFL Countdown and other american networks.

Jeffrey
01-21-2005, 10:08 PM
I like lots of teams ...
Lions,Atlanta,Eagles,Vikings,Steelers,Colts,Jets,B ills...
I respect the other team but I hate
Oakland,Miami,Pats,Rams !
I was converted when I watch NCAA football at the age of 10 .. now i can't stop watch football ... it's a drug ... im becoming a bigger football fan than a hockey fan !!! :amazed: .. I also played football at my high-school so it kinda help me to like the game more !
my dream would be a NFL team in Montreal i would turn nuts !!! nuts !!! and even more nuts !!!

The Jerk
01-21-2005, 10:32 PM
Holy kamoly

3 Broncos fans on HF...

Yeah, half of Toronto likes Buffalo. I went to a Bills game, it was fun..but...yeah.

First NFL game I watched was the 98-99 Broncos-Falcons super bowl...Broncos won, so I adopted them as my team...once I pick a team, I stick with em, so now I love em :)


make that 4 Broncos fans...is that 4 Canadian Bronco fans??

Sly Winkle
01-21-2005, 10:32 PM
the coverage of the NFL is not worth crap in Canada. Each time you hear someone from CBC or TSN talking of the NFL they always end up saying that the CFL is better. The only coverage we have of the NFL is from NFL Countdown and other american networks.

That's when they have fat white dudes with no skills as commentators who used to play in the CFL. :lol: Well, I'm just thinking of that one beardo who played for the Blue Bombers. But yes, it's basically all the feed from the american networks that we get. Although TSN has that goof Chris Schultz who makes his picks.. and The Score has their show "The Score on the NFL".

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
01-21-2005, 11:10 PM
I didn't used to pay attention to the NFL all that much a few years back, but for some reason, one day I just started watching and I took notice of Peyton Manning. I've been a Colts fan ever since.

Or, it could be that I really like offense. Other than the Anaheim teams I cheer for (I just love the city of Anaheim, and any sports team in Anaheim), I cheer for alot of offensive juggernauts. Dallas(Mavericks), Colts, I liked the Raiders for a while, when they had a very awesome offense.

Go Flames Go*
01-21-2005, 11:12 PM
NFL is huge up here. THe west is great but not with all these stupid Seahawks games I hate watching that boring team unless my Rams are kicking there ass.

We get CBS/FOX/New York Fox/New York CBS stations here plus the NFL sunday ticket. 4 free games is good for me plus TSN puts on Sunday Night games, and we get the ABC Monday NIghter.

Impossibles
01-21-2005, 11:14 PM
the coverage of the NFL is not worth crap in Canada. Each time you hear someone from CBC or TSN talking of the NFL they always end up saying that the CFL is better. The only coverage we have of the NFL is from NFL Countdown and other american networks.

:rolleyes:

Right. The only time they mention the two leagues in the same sentance is when a crazy play happens in the CFL, then they say that play wouldn't have been legal in the NFL. They aren't saying anything about either game being better.

GoM
01-21-2005, 11:23 PM
make that 4 Broncos fans...is that 4 Canadian Bronco fans??

I think it's 3...there's someone with a Lelie avatar I saw, think he was from Colorado

Tricolore#20
01-21-2005, 11:52 PM
The sports networks in Canada are pretty sad right now. Without the NHL and the CFL, it is almost entirely American sport coverage (other than the Raptors). I wonder how many other countries in the world have 3 national sports networks that cover mainly sports from another country. I think its also sad that all the networks show more NCAA highlights than highlights from our domestic universities. I know the quality of the NCAA is not comparable to the CIS, but we live in Canada and networks should try to create a following for those leagues.

That said, the NFL is massive up here in Canada. They know how to market the game. I have no favourite team, but seeing all the Seahawks games over the years has sort of made me a fan.

monster_bertuzzi
01-21-2005, 11:59 PM
Obviously being from Vancouver I've molded into a Seahawks fan over the years. Considering Seattle and Vancouver are just down the road from each other, I've even made my way down to Qwest field to catch a few games. NFL coverage is very smooth in Canada...

uzziman
01-22-2005, 12:09 AM
I'm a Vikings fan living in BC. I really started watching the NFL the year they went 15-1 and I've been a fan of theirs ever since. Not a big fan of the Seahawks despite them being so close. I'm hoping the Vikings play in Seattle some time soon, and if so I will actually head down and check 'em out

sabrefan27
01-22-2005, 12:38 AM
the coverage of the NFL is not worth crap in Canada. Each time you hear someone from CBC or TSN talking of the NFL they always end up saying that the CFL is better. The only coverage we have of the NFL is from NFL Countdown and other american networks.
There's actually people in Canada who can say with a straight face that the CFL is better than the NFL?

monster_bertuzzi
01-22-2005, 12:40 AM
There's actually people in Canada who can say with a straight face that the CFL is better than the NFL?

There are some idiots in Canada that think the CFL is better, yes.

leafaholix*
01-22-2005, 12:41 AM
There's actually people in Canada who can say with a straight face that the CFL is better than the NFL?It's a hell of a lot more entertaining for a lot of Canadians... it's also fan friendly with many many great people in the league.

Talent-wise it is not as good as the NFL nor does it generate nearly as much money.

sabrefan27
01-22-2005, 12:53 AM
It's a hell of a lot more entertaining for a lot of Canadians... it's also fan friendly with many many great people in the league.

Talent-wise it is not as good as the NFL nor does it generate nearly as much money.
Or you could have just said it's not as good, period.

leafaholix*
01-22-2005, 12:56 AM
Or you could have just said it's not as good, period.For some people, it's better based on their preference.

Some people prefer NCAA sports over professional sports... some people in Canada prefer the CFL to the NFL. It's got more to do with the culture of the league and the people in it... as well as the entertainment aspect.

Big McLargehuge
01-22-2005, 12:57 AM
There's actually people in Canada who can say with a straight face that the CFL is better than the NFL?


Sadly, yes. I almost got banned from a message board once about that one... :help:

monster_bertuzzi
01-22-2005, 01:00 AM
Sadly, yes. I almost got banned from a message board once about that one... :help:

I got yelled at by my own family for argueing that the NFL is superior. :shakehead

BCCHL inactive
01-22-2005, 02:02 AM
In my opinion, the NFL has better individual talent, but for entertainment purposes, I would much rather watch a CFL game.

If the NFL would play under CFL rules, it would be hands down the best football product.

monster_bertuzzi
01-22-2005, 02:06 AM
In my opinion, the NFL has better individual talent, but for entertainment purposes, I would much rather watch a CFL game.

If the NFL would play under CFL rules, it would be hands down the best football product.

You're saying that theres a debate between the two products? What kind of 'debate' could it be?

BCCHL inactive
01-22-2005, 02:21 AM
You're saying that theres a debate between the two products? What kind of 'debate' could it be?

I find 3 downs and a 20-second play clock to be more challenging than 4 downs and a 40-second play clock.

I don't like the fair catch rule.

Who wasn't at the edge of their seat when Gizmo Williams returned a missed field goal for a touchdown at the Grey Cup (I believe it was in 87)?

Brad*
01-22-2005, 02:24 AM
I find 3 downs and a 20-second play clock to be more challenging than 4 downs and a 40-second play clock.

I don't like the fair catch rule.

Who wasn't at the edge of their seat when Gizmo Williams returned a missed field goal for a touchdown at the Grey Cup (I believe it was in 87)?
Hmm, I would probably have to say about 99% of the world.

anguscertified
01-22-2005, 02:38 AM
Hmm, I would probably have to say about 99% of the world.
I think CFL was quite popular in Asia/India back then...so thats about .99% of the world you mean.

Luigi Lemieux
01-22-2005, 03:48 AM
has there ever been any talk of nfl moving/adding any teams to canada? toronto or montreal could very easily support an nfl team as they are two of the biggest cities in NA.

chris_dub
01-22-2005, 03:53 AM
has there ever been any talk of nfl moving/adding any teams to canada? toronto or montreal could very easily support an nfl team as they are two of the biggest cities in NA.

I truely believe that if the CFL folded (highly-unlikely), that the NFL would expand into Canada. Probably Toronto & Montreal. Vancouver possibly.

But it won't happen as long as the CFL is up & running.

Tuggy
01-22-2005, 05:04 AM
I find 3 downs and a 20-second play clock to be more challenging than 4 downs and a 40-second play clock.

I don't like the fair catch rule.

Who wasn't at the edge of their seat when Gizmo Williams returned a missed field goal for a touchdown at the Grey Cup (I believe it was in 87)?

Uh... :dunno: ...you lost me.

roast
01-22-2005, 08:37 AM
Thanks for all the replies!

Vic Rattlehead*
01-22-2005, 09:23 AM
My father has always been a Cowboys fan, ever since he started watching football (in his youth). I began as a Cowboys fan, but became more involved with the Jaguars when they came into the NFL.

Roughneck
01-22-2005, 10:15 AM
There's actually people in Canada who can say with a straight face that the CFL is better than the NFL?

More exciting is the word I'd use. As well, the fact that I can actually identify with a team and city makes the games that much more meaningful to me.



has there ever been any talk of nfl moving/adding any teams to canada? toronto or montreal could very easily support an nfl team as they are two of the biggest cities in NA.

Toronto would like a team because they think it will give them more credibility in the North American scene. They say they don't support the Argos but they would support an NFL team. IMO you are a football fan or you are not. Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatchewan and Winnipeg would support NFL teams better IMO (but only in fan support, not in what the NFL really wants in corporate support and huge stadiums).

And I don't think Montreal would support one . It took alot of changes and marketing to get the Alouettes successful in terms of popularity (moving into a smaller stadium with more atmosphere being the main one). Although football is pretty big in Quebec now so there is an interest from the pros to the smaller levels. Seeing as the team would have to play in the O, I dont think that it would help drawing fans.

MacDaddy TLC*
01-22-2005, 10:36 AM
With a satellite dish, you can get 3-5 games at 1 and 4 on a Sunday. It mainly dpends on your feed. With Expressvu, you get the Boston and Seattle network feeds. Toronto Global almost always has the Bills game. Some of the Globals pick up their own feed. Winnipeg Global picks up the Vikings often. Star choice has the Detroit, Buffalo, Seattle and Spokane (Why not a Cali city?) network feeds, so again you see a little more variety.

Cable companies depending on location pick up their US network feeds from places close to them, although for some reason Detroit channels became quite popular in the 80s. When Fox got big, the Rochester fox channel was used on many cable systems.

flamesfan01800
01-22-2005, 10:49 AM
Been a Dallas Cowboys fan since the SuperBowl when they played Slash and the Steelers. They usually are on every Sunday in Stoon that only helps the situation when the favorite team is on all the time. They have to get rid of Vinny though. I can not watch that old bum for another year :shakehead

MacDaddy TLC*
01-22-2005, 10:50 AM
Been a Dallas fan since the SuperBowl when they played Slash and the Steelers.
Neil O Donnell was the QB in that game for the Steelers. What a beautiful int. he threw to crush the Steelers hopes.

flamesfan01800
01-22-2005, 10:52 AM
Neil O Donnell was the QB in that game for the Steelers. What a beautiful int. he threw to crush the Steelers hopes.

O ya Kordell was playing WR at the time for some plays. Some Stats for Kordell during that year

14 rec 235 yards 16.8 average 71 long 1 touchdown

Ironman18
01-22-2005, 10:55 AM
I find 3 downs and a 20-second play clock to be more challenging than 4 downs and a 40-second play clock.

I don't like the fair catch rule.

Who wasn't at the edge of their seat when Gizmo Williams returned a missed field goal for a touchdown at the Grey Cup (I believe it was in 87)?


i think the fair catch rule is necessary, you might get some great highlight hits but you really can hurt someone if its fair game all the time.

PantherboyHTR
01-22-2005, 11:38 AM
Big KC Chiefs fan. Just really started liking them when they got Holmes I guess.

sabrefan27
01-22-2005, 12:08 PM
The NFL is so far and away better than the CFL that this argument is stupid.
































ofcourseinmyownopinion.

Astaroth
01-22-2005, 12:28 PM
More exciting is the word I'd use. As well, the fact that I can actually identify with a team and city makes the games that much more meaningful to me.




Toronto would like a team because they think it will give them more credibility in the North American scene. They say they don't support the Argos but they would support an NFL team. IMO you are a football fan or you are not. Calgary, Edmonton, Saskatchewan and Winnipeg would support NFL teams better IMO (but only in fan support, not in what the NFL really wants in corporate support and huge stadiums).

And I don't think Montreal would support one . It took alot of changes and marketing to get the Alouettes successful in terms of popularity (moving into a smaller stadium with more atmosphere being the main one). Although football is pretty big in Quebec now so there is an interest from the pros to the smaller levels. Seeing as the team would have to play in the O, I dont think that it would help drawing fans.

I can't stand CFL football, I only go to Alouette games because its a social thing here in MTL and my buddies work as volunteers on the sidelines. Its kind of like a local high school or college game. I really don't understand why people say CFL is more exciting, I find it sloppy and well its like watching a semi-pro game compared to the nhl.

Toronto will support an NFL team of that I have no doubt, coroporate support would be overwhelming I'm sure. Montreal is more iffy, Quebec is exploding in terms of football popularity on all levels from kids to older demographics but we need a new stadium and there is the issue of taxes. If exemptions could be negotiated I think it could work out pretty well.

Sly Winkle
01-22-2005, 12:39 PM
The NFL is so far and away better than the CFL that this argument is stupid.

What exactly are you talking about though? By better do you mean skill-wise or in entertainment value? Either way I agree with you, and absolutely no one could deny the first claim.

ObeySteve
01-22-2005, 01:22 PM
The NFL is so far and away better than the CFL that this argument is stupid.

Would you just shut up about it already and stop trying to pick fights?

sabrefan27
01-22-2005, 01:28 PM
Would you just shut up about it already and stop trying to pick fights?
No.

It Kills Me
01-22-2005, 01:30 PM
Reading some of the posts about the upcoming games, i see alot from Canadian posters. Does the NFL get alot of coverage in Canada, and how did you become a fan of a particular team?

Packers, 'cause they own. NFLTV being available has also helped me catch the games. You'll see a lot of Canadians tuneing in for the SuperBowl hoping for another one like the previous.

BAuldie
01-22-2005, 02:29 PM
i think the fair catch rule is necessary, you might get some great highlight hits but you really can hurt someone if its fair game all the time.

No.. it rarely happens in the CFL but you get ejected from the game if you hit someone before they catch a punt..

The CFL has a no yards rule that states that no one can be within 5 yards of the receiver when he receives the punt or kick off. That way there are more chances for exciting returns. If a player is within the 5 yard zone its a 5 yard penalty tacked on to the run back if the ball is caught on a bounce.. 15 yards penalty if its caught before it boucnes.

Ironman18
01-23-2005, 11:15 AM
No.. it rarely happens in the CFL but you get ejected from the game if you hit someone before they catch a punt..

The CFL has a no yards rule that states that no one can be within 5 yards of the receiver when he receives the punt or kick off. That way there are more chances for exciting returns. If a player is within the 5 yard zone its a 5 yard penalty tacked on to the run back if the ball is caught on a bounce.. 15 yards penalty if its caught before it boucnes.


well then thats fine for me. at least they take those measures you stated. as long as it aint like the XFL were im surprised i didnt hear 'He's Hit and...FUMBLE!!! No wait thats his head"

Porn*
01-23-2005, 11:41 AM
We have 3 major sports channels here in Canada and all of them have quite a bit of coverage. TSN picks up Primetime, Countdown etc. I had NFL Sunday ticket, so I never really missed a game all year.

The Pats were the first team I started watching back in the early 90's, so I started to follow them. Drew Bledsoe was my idol for a while :innocent:.

Plus I get the NFL network aswell, along with the internet and American stations I would say we get just as much coverage here as you do down there.
Bledsoe Rocks!!!


I started watching early 90's and loved the Cowboys... but have always liked the Steelers more! :bow: Bettis :bow:

islandnucker
01-23-2005, 12:15 PM
I can't really see why everyone gets so worked up the two leagues, it's football either way and there is one major advantage that the NFL has, the skill.

Anyways I'm a 49'ers fan, even when I was 12ish and a football game I was always asking if the 49'ers were on tv.

acr*
01-23-2005, 12:54 PM
On the flipside, I'm an American who grew up watching the NFL, and I watch CFL Playoff games when theyre on, and I must say, those rules are weird. 3 Downs, no fair catches...and how long are the endzones? lol...

I also didn't understand when during that one playoff game the guy missed a FG in OT, but they got a point for it anyway, but still don't win the game on that point...

It's strange from an outsider's point of view, but it is entertaining, like the Arena Football League down here, that's fun to watch, but it isn't pure football.

Vic Rattlehead*
01-23-2005, 01:06 PM
On the flipside, I'm an American who grew up watching the NFL, and I watch CFL Playoff games when theyre on, and I must say, those rules are weird. 3 Downs, no fair catches...and how long are the endzones? lol...

I also didn't understand when during that one playoff game the guy missed a FG in OT, but they got a point for it anyway, but still don't win the game on that point...

It's strange from an outsider's point of view, but it is entertaining, like the Arena Football League down here, that's fun to watch, but it isn't pure football.

Pure Football? Who is to say that American football is pure football? Both CFL and NFL have a lengthy history, just check it out.

mvp76
01-23-2005, 01:08 PM
Watch both and would definately say the NFL is better.imho

Vic Rattlehead*
01-23-2005, 01:09 PM
Watch both and would definately say the NFL is better.imho

Sure, but what the hell is pure football anyways?

Bobby Ryan Getzlaf
01-23-2005, 01:21 PM
Pure Football? Who is to say that American football is pure football? Both CFL and NFL have a lengthy history, just check it out.

The CFL, IIRC, has been going on longer than the NFL. Alot more history behind it than the NFL.

MacDaddy TLC*
01-23-2005, 02:45 PM
On the flipside, I'm an American who grew up watching the NFL, and I watch CFL Playoff games when theyre on, and I must say, those rules are weird. 3 Downs, no fair catches...and how long are the endzones? lol...

I also didn't understand when during that one playoff game the guy missed a FG in OT, but they got a point for it anyway, but still don't win the game on that point...

It's strange from an outsider's point of view, but it is entertaining, like the Arena Football League down here, that's fun to watch, but it isn't pure football.
The CFL is kind of a hybrid between American Football and Rugby.

BTW, pure football would be what FIFA governs and Pele starred in. American football is because Americans couldn't master real football so they invented their own version. :D

felixd
01-23-2005, 09:19 PM
I'm an Eagles fan because I lived in Philly but I live in Montreal now. In the AFC I really like the Pats, because they just perform, they are amazing. I am so pumped for the Superbowl!

goteam
01-23-2005, 09:39 PM
The CFL is kind of a hybrid between American Football and Rugby.

BTW, pure football would be what FIFA governs and Pele starred in. American football is because Americans couldn't master real football so they invented their own version. :D
Actually, the Canadian (McGill) rules originated long before the American (Harvard) rules. Both played rugby, but it was McGill who moved the rules towards football. Harvard like the game, but the size of the field didn't fit the brand-new Harvard Stadium, nor did they like the idea of open field hits. Therefore, they made changes to the McGill rules to suit their needs.

BTW, in the first game played (McGill-Harvard) - Harvard won 1-0.



The excitement of the two games today had me right on the edge of my seat. Good reflection of the NFL I'd say. But I can do with both, but like the CFL game (not the talent level, but the game - ie. rules) more.

I'm a 49ers fan with regard to the NFL. I started cheering for them during the dynasty years and have stayed true since.

Impossibles
01-23-2005, 10:47 PM
On the flipside, I'm an American who grew up watching the NFL, and I watch CFL Playoff games when theyre on, and I must say, those rules are weird. 3 Downs, no fair catches...and how long are the endzones? lol...

I also didn't understand when during that one playoff game the guy missed a FG in OT, but they got a point for it anyway, but still don't win the game on that point...


You get a single point if you miss a field goal, but the ball goes through the end of the field. A player can also catch and run the kick out to keep from getting the single against them. (remember, the uprights are at the front of the endzone in the CFL)

It's a wierd rule to get used to, but it makes an otherwise boring play a little more exciting.

ShootOut
01-23-2005, 10:59 PM
I became myself a fan of the Eagles after the whole world school repeatedly laughed at me for buying the cap of a team with a 0-9 start. It has well paid off since. :)

Go Flames Go*
01-24-2005, 12:05 AM
WOw so much arguments over which is better. I love Football period. CFL and NFL I follow with a passion. I can relate to the CFL because of a home town team, and its exciting. Not 100% if I would love the CFL the way I do if we didnt have team.

CFL rules a bit strange some stupid ones, but overall it is football just like the NFL. Thoose players put it all out there, and some play for chump change. Its not a gimmick leauge by any strech, there is a long history that dates futher back then the NFL. CFL is more exciting with big play, and more passes.

NFL is more of a clock control thing, but its still fun as hell.

Football is Football unless its XFL or Arena Leagues

BCCHL inactive
01-24-2005, 12:31 AM
I also didn't understand when during that one playoff game the guy missed a FG in OT, but they got a point for it anyway, but still don't win the game on that point...


CFL overtime is not sudden death. The best comparison I can give, is extra innings in baseball. Whoever loses the coin toss goes first (unless your team has a stupid captain and chooses to go first), and whoever wins the toss goes second, in the "bottom of the inning".

In the case you are describing, that was Saskatchewan @ BC when McCallum missed the 18-yard chip shot, putting the Roughriders in the lead by one point, but BC got their chance and O'Mahoney's FG attempt was good, putting BC up by 2 points, and giving them the win.

MacDaddy TLC*
01-24-2005, 09:34 AM
Actually, the Canadian (McGill) rules originated long before the American (Harvard) rules. Both played rugby, but it was McGill who moved the rules towards football. Harvard like the game, but the size of the field didn't fit the brand-new Harvard Stadium, nor did they like the idea of open field hits. Therefore, they made changes to the McGill rules to suit their needs.

BTW, in the first game played (McGill-Harvard) - Harvard won 1-0.



The excitement of the two games today had me right on the edge of my seat. Good reflection of the NFL I'd say. But I can do with both, but like the CFL game (not the talent level, but the game - ie. rules) more.

I'm a 49ers fan with regard to the NFL. I started cheering for them during the dynasty years and have stayed true since.
I believe the Grey Cup even is engraved with the words, "Canadian Rugby champion"

The point I was trying to make was that CFL was more closely tied to Rugby than to American football.

sveiglar
01-24-2005, 09:52 AM
A lot more Canadians are NFL fans than I would have assumed before coming to this board.

Anyway, looks like people are generally fans of the team they are closest to geographically, even if that team is 5+ hours away.

http://www.nflcanada.com/NFLCanada/CanadianRoots/canadasfavouriteteam.html

Heh... As a Raiders fan in Newfoundland, my team is the furthest away from me out of the entire league. Jumped on the bandwagon back in Bo's heyday and haven't given up my seat.

goteam
01-24-2005, 10:45 AM
I believe the Grey Cup even is engraved with the words, "Canadian Rugby champion"

The point I was trying to make was that CFL was more closely tied to Rugby than to American football.
Oh definitely. But the point I was trying to make was that the where the Canadian game takes its roots straight from rugby, the American game takes its roots from the Canadian game.

Go Flames Go*
01-24-2005, 10:48 AM
CFL needs to get rid of that ridiculous 1 point for a missed FG or a punt into the endzone. Need to re do some rules also that Punt and recover touchdown was ugly looking.

Roughneck
01-24-2005, 10:48 AM
I believe the Grey Cup even is engraved with the words, "Canadian Rugby champion"

The point I was trying to make was that CFL was more closely tied to Rugby than to American football.

That is true.

And the reason the field is longer and winder, is because 110 yards is roughly 100 metres or the same size as a rugby pitch. That is also why the goals are at the front of the endzone, not the back.

Roughneck
01-24-2005, 10:51 AM
CFL needs to get rid of that ridiculous 1 point for a missed FG or a punt into the endzone. Need to re do some rules also that Punt and recover touchdown was ugly looking.

I agree with this. No singles at all on field goals. My thinking would be that if the team wants to down it in the endzone on a punt, then give a point, or rules such as if the ball bounces before leaving the endzone on a punt, its a point as well.

But I've never liked the idea of a tie game and a team winning because of a missed field goal.

Go Flames Go*
01-24-2005, 11:05 AM
I agree with this. No singles at all on field goals. My thinking would be that if the team wants to down it in the endzone on a punt, then give a point, or rules such as if the ball bounces before leaving the endzone on a punt, its a point as well.

But I've never liked the idea of a tie game and a team winning because of a missed field goal.

Yes I agree that is just a dumb rule how would it look. Grey CUp game tied 21-21 with 8 seconds left the team is on the 35 yard line and miss the field goal but still win with a single. It make no sense. Do they reward a team for throwing th eball into the endzone an dmissing a touchdown, and say oh lets give them 4 points for trying. You miss it you get 0.

PEli*
01-24-2005, 11:14 AM
the coverage of the NFL is not worth crap in Canada. Each time you hear someone from CBC or TSN talking of the NFL they always end up saying that the CFL is better. The only coverage we have of the NFL is from NFL Countdown and other american networks.

Quite possibly the dumbest post of all time.

Who watches the CBC for NFL coverage? Nobody on CBC is qualified to talk about any sport except hockey. Your comment on TSN was pretty jaded. TSN constantly talks about football. Sure, they cover the CFL and try and pump it up as much as they can. It's their job to promote Canadian content.

When I want football, I can find it on four or five channels. TSN, Sportsnet, TheScore, FOX, CBS and Global all cover the NFL and show enough of it to make me happy. It's not a problem.

Hey, check it out. OTR's second story is the Eagles/Falcons game. What a surprise.

Anyway, I'm a Vikes fan. Not sure why. They might have been the first team I saw on TV and I just stuck with them.

sveiglar
01-24-2005, 11:30 AM
CFL needs to get rid of that ridiculous 1 point for a missed FG or a punt into the endzone.

Vive la rouge!