fedorov

Vatican Roulette
09-19-2003, 11:13 AM
Shut the **** up

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=54426

"not a problem to be back in a red wing uniform."

I dont care that he left, water under the bridge.

But to come out and say this....i think he needs his head checked.

If you wanted to sign with the wings, you would have moron. Now go into the ducks lockerroom, you know the place you settled on.

What lovely respect he shows the ducks organization.

guinness
09-19-2003, 11:19 AM
Who cares, he's been gone for almost 2 months and he'll get the playing time he wanted in Anaheim and be the big show that he couldn't be in Detroit behind Yzerman.

No matter how cloudy his head is, he couldn't be that stupid to turn down $40-50 million from Illitch if he wanted to stay, he's trying to save face so that Hatcher doesn't beat his ass when the Ducks play at the Joe.

Team_Spirit
09-19-2003, 11:21 AM
i liked Federov ... now i think he's just a punk ass

Vatican Roulette
09-19-2003, 11:36 AM
Maybe i should post a poll to see how many people think he's going to pick up those player options...If i remember correctly he can get out of anaheim in 2 years, maybe he'll go to NY to enojy his time with Jeter, or hey, i hear Miami's nightlife is the best.

Zodiac
09-19-2003, 12:21 PM
What a tool.

I'm sure the Ducks love to hear this stuff.

The Frugal Gourmet
09-19-2003, 12:52 PM
I'm frankly blown away by this article.

An interview w/ Fedorov was printed just the other day which directly contradicts some of the statements made in this particular article (regarding the contract negotiations).

guinness
09-19-2003, 01:01 PM
I'm frankly blown away by this article.

An interview w/ Fedorov was printed just the other day which directly contradicts some of the statements made in this particular article (regarding the contract negotiations).

Link?

Anyhow, this TSN article was probably taken out of context just to get a rise out of people. I still think he just wanted out of Detroit; he didn't like playing second fiddle and wanted more minutes, money wasn't the issue. Don't think Anna was it either, it's not like she lives around here and he'd run into her everyday.

Adityase
09-19-2003, 01:03 PM
This doesn't make me mad because I'm overcome with confusion. what a weird thing to say. \


Strange.

The Frugal Gourmet
09-19-2003, 01:11 PM
I'm not sure if I can find the link. Maybe someone else can.

It was a California newspaper, and in the interview (which was a very good one) he talked about the Wings not really making him a serious offer and not really feeling likey wanted him to stay.

He was very eloquent in the iterview.

Now, in THIS interview, he sounds like a completely different person, and he gives totally different reasons for leaving Detroit (i.e., his failed relationship).

Maybe someone else can help.

PigPen
09-19-2003, 01:41 PM
Maybe he made those statements because he might regret going to anaheim?

Vatican Roulette
09-19-2003, 01:49 PM
I think he realized that he needs another million or so...

Legionnaire
09-19-2003, 01:57 PM
Was I the only one who didn't think that article was bad?? The guy said he was having personal problems and his head was not in the right place. He said nothing about being unhappy in Anaheim nor did he say that leaving Detroit was a mistake. What he did say though, was that it was not Detroits fault and he didn't have a problem being a Red Wings uniform.

The Frugal Gourmet
09-19-2003, 02:08 PM
Maybe he made those statements because he might regret going to anaheim?

Sure didn't seem like it in his other interview.

Zodiac
09-19-2003, 02:20 PM
Was I the only one who didn't think that article was bad?? The guy said he was having personal problems and his head was not in the right place. He said nothing about being unhappy in Anaheim nor did he say that leaving Detroit was a mistake. What he did say though, was that it was not Detroits fault and he didn't have a problem being a Red Wings uniform.



I hated him since day 1 ...so anything he says bothers me.

A Good Flying Bird*
09-19-2003, 03:24 PM
Link?

Anyhow, this TSN article was probably taken out of context just to get a rise out of people. I still think he just wanted out of Detroit; he didn't like playing second fiddle and wanted more minutes, money wasn't the issue. Don't think Anna was it either, it's not like she lives around here and he'd run into her everyday.

Albom's interview likely hit the AP Wire, and then the CP wire, and TSN's web editors butchered the hell out of the thing.
Those same comments in the full interview have a completely different meaning.

A Good Flying Bird*
09-19-2003, 03:25 PM
I'm not sure if I can find the link. Maybe someone else can.

It was a California newspaper, and in the interview (which was a very good one) he talked about the Wings not really making him a serious offer and not really feeling likey wanted him to stay.

He was very eloquent in the iterview.

Now, in THIS interview, he sounds like a completely different person, and he gives totally different reasons for leaving Detroit (i.e., his failed relationship).

Maybe someone else can help.

It's called selective editing. TSN should be ashamed of itself.

A Good Flying Bird*
09-19-2003, 03:34 PM
Was I the only one who didn't think that article was bad?? The guy said he was having personal problems and his head was not in the right place. He said nothing about being unhappy in Anaheim nor did he say that leaving Detroit was a mistake. What he did say though, was that it was not Detroits fault and he didn't have a problem being a Red Wings uniform.

No dude. I thought it was a pretty candid article.

shveik
09-19-2003, 03:59 PM
Here is the interview on which the TSN writeup is based:

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/6806307.htm

190Octane
09-19-2003, 04:16 PM
As a Duck fan I'm not pissed in the slightest.. he seems happy to be here.

Spankatola Jamnuts*
09-19-2003, 06:23 PM
I'm not sure if I can find the link. Maybe someone else can.

It was a California newspaper, and in the interview (which was a very good one) he talked about the Wings not really making him a serious offer and not really feeling likey wanted him to stay.

He was very eloquent in the iterview.

Now, in THIS interview, he sounds like a completely different person, and he gives totally different reasons for leaving Detroit (i.e., his failed relationship).

Maybe someone else can help.
Here's a writeup from the OC Register (http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=48660):

With the Ducks, Fedorov will be the unquestioned top-line anchor, leaving center Steve Rucchin in the perfect No. 2 role, where he might be as effective as anyone in the NHL. As the go-to guy, Fedorov will be expected to shoulder heavy responsibility at key times, especially in the playoffs.

"I was looking for that particular employment in Detroit," Fedorov said. "Unfortunately, it didn't happen, but we did succeed as a team. That was more important than Sergei Fedorov. Playing the kind of role I think I will be playing, I'm thrilled. I enjoy the challenge that I will be a leading player. It will be more work for me, but I'm up for it. I'm looking forward to a different type of season."

Spankatola Jamnuts*
09-19-2003, 06:26 PM
And another (http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=48670):

"It will be tough to leave a group of guys who were a family to me ... blood, tears and glory for so long," Fedorov said of the Red Wings, his teammates since 1990, Stanley Cup winners three times. "But I believe Anaheim has demanding standards. It's not a fluke that they went to the Finals because they beat us and then another good team (Dallas). They went to Game 7 (against New Jersey), which tells you something."
...
"There's no friction [with old teammates]," Fedorov said. "I'm a pretty easy guy to get along with. There's no bitterness to leave Detroit. It's been a wonderful ride. Everybody, and that includes every person in this world, needs to change at some point. I'm up for a challenge."

Herby
09-19-2003, 07:42 PM
No idea Fedorov was living in Newport, would be cool to run into him at Baja Fresh sometime.

As for the interview, I think he misses Detroit a bit, but thats usual, its hard to move from a place where you had been for well over a decade. But I also think he is happy to be with the Ducks, just needs to get adjusted.

Trottier
09-19-2003, 08:13 PM
Was I the only one who didn't think that article was bad?? The guy said he was having personal problems and his head was not in the right place. He said nothing about being unhappy in Anaheim nor did he say that leaving Detroit was a mistake. What he did say though, was that it was not Detroits fault and he didn't have a problem being a Red Wings uniform.

No, you are not alone.

I'm still trying to figure out just how far cynicism can go. As you said, the guy had marriage issues, he didn't bad-mouth the team he left (as so many do), and he certainly didn't say anything negative about the Ducks. Why is it so hard to take a guy at his word?

I'm guessing the same people ripping him here would be jumping on him for saying how happy he was to be in Anaheim. ("Ungrateful traitor!")

As for "water under the bridge" - the guy owes Detroit nothing. He gave them 13 solid seasons, and was a major contributor to three Stanley Cup winners. He earned his money while there. He chose to move on. End of story.

Vlad The Impaler
09-19-2003, 08:15 PM
It wasn't very tactful of Fedorov but I don't see why some are pissed.

Hockey has been made into a business full of mercenaries thanks to losers like Trevor Linden, Bob Goodenow, Players agents and a great many owners, Illitch being very much a part of all this.

It's nothing new. If you talk to many players without a microphone, they'll tell you the things Fedorov is saying. Sergei has just always been very weak in PR but in reality, I see a great many players tell their lies and ******** and I don't think that's any better or worse.

Munchausen
09-19-2003, 08:35 PM
So is Fedorov officially a head case or what? I cannot find any logic behind his comments, let alone this article in itself...

ehc73
09-19-2003, 08:43 PM
I think he realized that he needs another million or so...

Uh, as I recall, Detroit offered him a $10 million per year contract. He signed for 8, didn't he? And wasn't the problem with Detroit's offer the length of the contract?

And I agree with Newsguyone. The media loves to take quotes out of context. Talk about pouncing on a tidbit and blowing it the hell out of proportion. But if Federov really was like that...well...he's just being an arse.

So is Fedorov officially a head case or what?
Well, he DID break up with Anna Kournikova... :dunno:

The Frugal Gourmet
09-19-2003, 08:55 PM
Uh, as I recall, Detroit offered him a $10 million per year contract. He signed for 8, didn't he? And wasn't the problem with Detroit's offer the length of the contract?


According to Fedorov (in the interview) they did not actually ofer him that.

X8oD
09-19-2003, 09:31 PM
According to Fedorov (in the interview) they did not actually ofer him that.

5 and 50 and 4 and 40.

then 4 for 32 when they bombed in th playoffs.

he proposed a deal for 11 a season after the round 1 bomb.

he wanted out, no more no less

Epsilon
09-19-2003, 09:49 PM
As for "water under the bridge" - the guy owes Detroit nothing. He gave them 13 solid seasons, and was a major contributor to three Stanley Cup winners. He earned his money while there. He chose to move on. End of story.

Totally agree and I'm as big a Wings fan as anyone. In fact, I find it kind of a shame that people can be so bitter towards a guy who gave us so much and brought so much success to our team. Not to mention the fact that the Wings have been as shrewd as any team in taking advantage of the free agency system, and so the times it works against them (Fedorov, Lapointe - although I really think that one worked in our favour ;)) shouldn't be taken so personally. I had no problems with the Wings cutting Chris Osgood loose, despite the fact that he is one of my all-time favorite players and was a great member of the team, because it was a move done to improve the club. By the same token, the players on the team should feel free to leave when to benefit their personal careers.

The Frugal Gourmet
09-19-2003, 10:49 PM
5 and 50 and 4 and 40.

then 4 for 32 when they bombed in th playoffs.

he proposed a deal for 11 a season after the round 1 bomb.

he wanted out, no more no less


Dude, I said according to Fedorov he never got the alleged offer.

So, according to Detroit all the above offers took place. Fine.

According to HIM, he never received the above -- or any -- offer this summer from the Red Wings.

Fedorov:

.. "I just like to say only one simple thing - the media wrote about me rejecting all those deals left and right, you know? I did not reject one deal. And I never thought to do that, especially, personally, the offer from Mike Ilitch. It was just not on the table. And another deal we got so close that Red Wings did not choose to pursue and sign."


I really do not care one iota which party is misrepresenting the truth here. Neither the Wings or Ducks are my team. But, you must acknowledge all your information your are haughtily declaring as fact is ultimately emanating from your favorite team.

Vlad The Impaler
09-19-2003, 11:04 PM
Totally agree and I'm as big a Wings fan as anyone. In fact, I find it kind of a shame that people can be so bitter towards a guy who gave us so much and brought so much success to our team.

We need less people like these and more fans like you! I totally agree with everything you've said!

The_Wiz
09-20-2003, 10:19 AM
Fedorov left Detroit because he was ashamed after getting dumped by Anna !!!!!!!!! ahahahahaha

This guy is such a wimp !!! That pic of him cover in rubby duckies fits him to a "T"

:)