Who is the best player in the NBA?

ObeySteve
02-18-2005, 01:10 PM
Seems like there are a lot of dominant players in the NBA. Who do you believe stands above the rest?

This is not a poll of who should be MVP, but who you believe is the best player in the game.

ATG
02-18-2005, 01:15 PM
KG

IkeaMonkey*
02-18-2005, 01:25 PM
I'm only a casual NBA watcher...but I really do not understand why people consider Allen Iverson to be a top 5 player. Yes, the guy scores oodles of points but he takes even more shots. His shooting precentage isnt even within the top 75(going off a random number, im sorting it on yahoo and he's 3/4s the way down the page), his 3PT percentage isnt even top 100 in the league, not top 25 in Free Throw %, the guy cant rebound and he turns the ball over the 3rd most of any player in the league. I realize that he's all Philly's got, but his numbers are less than impressive in my books.

ObeySteve
02-18-2005, 01:28 PM
I'm only a casual NBA watcher...but I really do not understand why people consider Allen Iverson to be a top 5 player. Yes, the guy scores oodles of points but he takes even more shots. His shooting precentage isnt even within the top 75(going off a random number, im sorting it on yahoo and he's 3/4s the way down the page), his 3PT percentage isnt even top 100 in the league, not top 25 in Free Throw %, the guy cant rebound and he turns the ball over the 3rd most of any player in the league. I realize that he's all Philly's got, but his numbers are less than impressive in my books.

Well, Bryant's free throw percentage is often lower than Iverson's, and many consider him to be a top 5 player as well.

You have to also take into account that Iverson has nothing around him, so naturally he is going to be forced to try and make shots that he wouldn't have to if there were actual options around him.

IkeaMonkey*
02-18-2005, 01:33 PM
Well, Bryant's free throw percentage is often lower than Iverson's, and many consider him to be a top 5 player as well.

You have to also take into account that Iverson has nothing around him, so naturally he is going to be forced to try and make shots that he wouldn't have to if there were actual options around him.

Most years I'd put Kobe in or near the top 5, but not this year. He really stinks on ice without Shaq.ALL of his numbers are down considerably from his last healthy season with Shaq, in 2002.

I agree with Iverson being all that Philly's got, but you GOTTA make your free throws and not turn the ball over, thats nothing on your team.

mvp76
02-18-2005, 01:33 PM
Shaquille O'Neal

how do you stop this man.

IkeaMonkey*
02-18-2005, 01:37 PM
Oh and I voted for Dirk.

It was really a tossup between Dirk and KG, but since I'm not really a big NBA fan and I do like the Mavs, I'll take the homer stick.Dirk arguably has the best numbers overall of ANY player in the league.

Brock
02-18-2005, 02:10 PM
For me it's between three guys. Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett and Lebron James.

I gave the nod to Duncan.

Ar-too
02-18-2005, 02:16 PM
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You're lookin at him. If a dude who's 6'0", 160 pounds can score 60 points in the NBA, he's the best player.

High flyin' Habs*
02-18-2005, 02:18 PM
Not saying that he's the best but Nowitzki can do it all. Last night Barkley said that all Dirk can do is score. Nowitzki had a season low 16 points vs the suns last night but he pulled down 16 rebounds blocked 4 shots and had 4 assists. Barkley couldnt be more wrong.

IkeaMonkey*
02-18-2005, 02:21 PM
Not saying that he's the best but Nowitzki can do it all. Last night Barkley said that all Dirk can do is score. Nowitzki had a season low 16 points vs the suns last night but he pulled down 16 rebounds blocked 4 shots and had 4 assists. Barkley couldnt be more wrong.

OMG! :eek:

Barkley is one of, if not, my favorite player of all time and Dirk is my favorite player nowadays...I dont want to choose loyalties between them.
:cry:

Douggy
02-18-2005, 03:15 PM
I voted for Shaq but I dont pretend to know a lot about basketball.

The Mars Volchenkov
02-18-2005, 04:04 PM
I choose Kevin Garnett, but Lebron James is closing in rapidly.

ObeySteve
02-18-2005, 04:09 PM
I will admit I am a casual NBA fan at best, but I don't think there's any denying that James is already closing in on the top of the list. He will probably finish in the top 3 in MVP voting this season, if not win it....yes, in just his 2nd season in the NBA.

blah
02-18-2005, 04:11 PM
Shaq then Iverson.

HalifaxHit
02-18-2005, 04:37 PM
Nash

Brock
02-18-2005, 05:29 PM
I will admit I am a casual NBA fan at best, but I don't think there's any denying that James is already closing in on the top of the list. He will probably finish in the top 3 in MVP voting this season, if not win it....yes, in just his 2nd season in the NBA.

Can you believe it? For Once a Hyped phenom lives up to the hype!

You can tell he's only going to get better too. The era of James is soon to be upon us (if it isn't already). 25.4 ppg, 7.7 apg, 7.1rpg. All increases over last years already impressive numbers. I see no reason that in the future Lebron can't be a 30-10-10 guy and that truly is sickening.

klingsor
02-18-2005, 05:37 PM
Best: Tim Duncan

Most Valuable: Shaq (when he's in decent shape).

Someday Lebron may be both. He's still improving.

kruezer
02-18-2005, 05:55 PM
Can you believe it? For Once a Hyped phenom lives up to the hype!

You can tell he's only going to get better too. The era of James is soon to be upon us (if it isn't already). 25.4 ppg, 7.7 apg, 7.1rpg. All increases over last years already impressive numbers. I see no reason that in the future Lebron can't be a 30-10-10 guy and that truly is sickening.
I agree, LeBron is already number 1 in my books, he just has such an amazing feel for the game, and it can only improve, sickening.

benji
02-18-2005, 07:18 PM
For me it's Duncan, KG or LeBron. I went with LeBron.

Dark Knight
02-18-2005, 07:41 PM
Best: Tim Duncan

Most Valuable: Shaq (when he's in decent shape).

Someday Lebron may be both. He's still improving.

LeBron is special.

But IMO noone can take Shaq's place.

It Kills Me
02-18-2005, 07:49 PM
I voted for Iverson, but after thinking about it its probably Duncan.

IkeaMonkey*
02-18-2005, 08:48 PM
Damn. Absolutely no love for Dirk.

27 PPG, 10 RPG, 1.5 Blocks PG, 45% FG Pct, 40% from 3PT and an 86% FT shooter.

The guy is the 7th best rebounder in the league and he doesnt even play around the basket on offense.His 8.8 Defensive Rebounds a game is 2nd to Garnett.

It's amazing Dirk can be 3rd in points in the NBA on a team that features Finley, Stackhouse, Terry, etc. all taking their fair amount of a shots.

IMO the only guys close are LeBron, KG and Shaq.

lux_interior
02-18-2005, 10:56 PM
Well if you answer the question literally, "Who stands above the rest?" it would have to be Yao Ming at what 7'7".

I voted Lebron James, with Tim Duncan a close second.

canucksfan
02-18-2005, 11:17 PM
Shaq then Duncan

High flyin' Habs*
02-19-2005, 01:58 AM
Well if you answer the question literally, "Who stands above the rest?" it would have to be Yao Ming at what 7'7".

I voted Lebron James, with Tim Duncan a close second.
Yao Ming is 7'5". Not even the tallest in the league.

IkeaMonkey*
02-19-2005, 02:10 AM
Yao Ming is 7'5". Not even the tallest in the league.

Shawn Bradley!

Ajacied
02-19-2005, 05:13 AM
Duncan or Shaq.. Went with Duncan because I don't find Shaq much of a basketball player.

RoyIsALegend*
02-19-2005, 05:27 AM
Went with Shaq.

Tim Duncan and Lebron James extremely close second and third, then Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant.

Ajacied
02-19-2005, 05:50 AM
Damn. Absolutely no love for Dirk.

27 PPG, 10 RPG, 1.5 Blocks PG, 45% FG Pct, 40% from 3PT and an 86% FT shooter.

The guy is the 7th best rebounder in the league and he doesnt even play around the basket on offense.His 8.8 Defensive Rebounds a game is 2nd to Garnett.

It's amazing Dirk can be 3rd in points in the NBA on a team that features Finley, Stackhouse, Terry, etc. all taking their fair amount of a shots.

IMO the only guys close are LeBron, KG and Shaq.

Nowitzki is the 5th best player in the NBA, tops. Duncan, Shaq, KG, Kobe and James are superior IMO. Nowitzki is in the same boat as Amare, Iverson and currently McGrady, no bad company to be in either.

canucks666
02-19-2005, 06:09 AM
Most talented, overall, most versatile: Kevin Garnett
Best: Tim Duncan
Best next year, and for the next decade and a half, perhaps of all time: LeBron James
Most Valuable: Shaq
Best Offensive: Dirk Nowitzki (offensively he's the most versatile player in the league)

Ajacied
02-19-2005, 06:13 AM
Most talented, overall, most versatile: Kevin Garnett
Best: Tim Duncan
Best next year, and for the next decade and a half, perhaps of all time: LeBron James
Most Valuable: Shaq
Best Offensive: Dirk Nowitzki (offensively he's the most versatile player in the league)

Offensively I might give the edge to Iverson. He's the only decent scoring threat of his team and thus gets al the attention from the opposition. Making it hard for him to score, yet he's leading the NBA in points. Nowitzki has one of the best supporting casts in the league, he isn't getting double or tripple teamed nearly as much.

ObeySteve
02-19-2005, 09:21 AM
Yao Ming is 7'5". Not even the tallest in the league.

The heights are exaggerated anyway.

The tallest man living in the entire world was only 7'6 according to the Guinness book of world records a few years ago.

Chaos
02-19-2005, 09:41 AM
Offensively I might give the edge to Iverson. He's the only decent scoring threat of his team and thus gets al the attention from the opposition. Making it hard for him to score, yet he's leading the NBA in points. Nowitzki has one of the best supporting casts in the league, he isn't getting double or tripple teamed nearly as much.

Iverson also 4 more shots a game than Dirk. Dirk gets double teamed a lot more than you think. Take the game Thursday night in Phoenix. He was double teamed EVERY single time he touched the ball. That being said, I agree...Iverson is the best pure offensive player there is. But Dirk is the most versatile. There is a difference.

Snugglepuss
02-19-2005, 11:06 AM
Garnett or Duncan

Lessy
02-19-2005, 11:18 AM
1. KG
2. Duncan
3. Shaq
4. Dirk

James isn't quite there yet I dont think.

Doomsday Device
02-19-2005, 12:56 PM
Here's what a poll of 151 NBA players (1/3 of the league) said.

22.5% Shaquille O'Neal - Miami (34 Total Votes)
19.9% Tim Duncan - San Antonio (30 Total Votes)
18.5% Kevin Garnett - Minnesota (28 Total Votes)
9.3% Lebron James - Cleveland (14 Total Votes)
6.6% Kobe Bryant - Los Angeles Lakers (10 Total Votes)
4.0% Steve Nash - Phoenix (6 Total Votes)
2.6% Amare Stoudemire - Phoenix (4 Total Votes)
2.0% Tracy Mcgrady - Houston (3 Total Votes)

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nuggets/article/0,1299,DRMN_20_3548691,00.html

canucks666
02-19-2005, 05:03 PM
i picked nowitzki as the best offensive player because of the many ways he can beat you.

He can make the 3pointer, he can make the jumper, he can drive with power, he can get around guys and use his size well to get easy baskets.

monster_bertuzzi
02-19-2005, 05:35 PM
The heights are exaggerated anyway.

The tallest man living in the entire world was only 7'6 according to the Guinness book of world records a few years ago.

Exactly. Without the fro', Ben Wallace is 6'7''.

LuckyLUC20
02-19-2005, 05:41 PM
Kevin Garnett

sunb
02-19-2005, 09:02 PM
The heights are exaggerated anyway.

The tallest man living in the entire world was only 7'6 according to the Guinness book of world records a few years ago.

No. The Tallest Living Man in the Guiness World Book of records was 7'8.5'' He was still living four years ago so unless he died....

Unholy Diver
02-19-2005, 09:18 PM
King James