Leafs should pick up Tkaczuk

The Blue's have released Daniel Tkaczuk. I think the Leafs should sign this guy right away. Hes 24 years old not a bad prospect (though not a great one). Hes 23 years old and had one pretty good in the NHL (4 goals and 11 pts in 19 games). They could send him out St. Johns and see if he improves out there, if he does he'd could be called up to the Toronto team since he'd be a lot further around then guys like Stajan and Wellwood. If he doesn't improve enough they can always let him go (and its not like they'd hae to pay him a lot).

Hes also from Toronto (and probaly a Leaf fan growing up), playing for the team he (most likely) watched as a child could be enough to get him playing on a level that would keep him in the NHL full time (its not uncommon for guys to play better for their "home" teams). He'd be a very low risk, low cost guy to sign who could pay off big for them.

So he's 23 and a half?

..Hes 24 years old not a bad prospect (though not a great one). Hes 23 years old and had one pretty good in the NHL (4 goals and 11 pts in 19 games). .

Which is it?

I'd rather have the other one but it couldn't hurt.

he's now 22 and falling!!!

Hes 24, like I said he might be a long shot to make the NHL at this point (though his one run was pretty good) but it would be a very low risk move for the Leafs which could pay off big for them

Im sure Ferguson knows all about him. Its his decision.

For a second when I saw the heading to this thread I thought we were talking about KEITH TKACHUK here.

have you seen tkaczuk play lately? he's terrible. he's a terrible prospect.

why would the leafs pick him up? yes he's further along then stajan and wellwood, but so are druken, holden, and leeb, who are all about the same age and have proven a lot more then tkaczuk.

First I never even thought that Ferguson used to work in St. Louis, he might be very interested in him.

Second - whats the harm in picking him up? Its not like they've have to pay him much and they could give him a two-way contract. If he gets back to his Calagery form the Leafs have a solid offensive prospect (which they need) if he doesn't they can either keep him in St. Johns or cut him lose. We've all seen players take a bit of dive after being traded, thats what happened to Tkaczuk. Its possible that coming into a new team (his home town team no less) could be what he needed to get his "form" back. Its not like hes an old NHLer who won't accept a short term, two-way, small money deal - he'd probably be glad to get a deal like that be given another chance with another team. They have almost nothing to lose and lot to potentaily gain.

if ferguson was interested in tkaczuk, he probably wouldn't have let him leave worcester to play in bridgeport last year.

there is harm in picking him up. he'd be in the way. where would he play in st.john's? they already have way too many centers.

hey, jason bonsignore was a 4th overall pick and released by atlanta yesterday, why don't we pick him up? oh wait, we already tried that 4 years ago.

So tick Tkaczuk on the wing in St. Johns.

They've got nothing to lose by signing him, and everythign to gain. If he fails they can cut him lose, if he gets his scoring touch back he could be that sniper/scorer they need int heir system. And IF Tkaczuk does do well in St. Johns and its clear he'll get called up ina year they can always bench one of the vet. NHLers a game (rotate) until he does move up, if not cut hims lose.

So tick Tkaczuk on the wing in St. Johns.

They've got nothing to lose by signing him, and everythign to gain.

how about taking away a roster spot from a player that has more future potential than he'll ever show?

I mean, there's barely enough room in St. JOhns as it is.

no thanks. absolutely nothing to gain. there are lots of available players they should sign before daniel tkaczuk.

he has never been considered a potential scorer in the nhl. when he was drafted they loved his leadership and checking, but his scoring has always been a question. the question has now been answered.

tkachuk's a toronto kid as well.
a former 1st rounder.
a young forward; we dont have many of those

follows the same theme as when they got jackman
no harm in giving it a shot

The only fowards they haev in St. Johns that have a realistic shot at the Leafs are Stajan, Wellwood, Holden, Druken and Barrett. Tkaczuk did very well until he was traded, like I said that happens to players sometimes once they get traded, for all we know he could find his scoring touch again, if he doesn't they let him go. There is ZERO harm in trying him out. St. Johns primary "function" is to prepare players for the NHL, so what if a guy like Leeb or Gavey whos only ever going to be an injury call up has to sit some games or get bumped down a line for couple games, months or even a season if he does well.

I think there might be some other young players from the Blues that J.F.J. has his eyes on.

"no thanks. absolutely nothing to gain. there are lots of available players they should sign before daniel tkaczuk.

he has never been considered a potential scorer in the nhl. when he was drafted they loved his leadership and checking, but his scoring has always been a question. the question has now been answered"

Like who, and he played 19 NHL games with the Flames when he was 20 - he scored 11 pts in 19 games. While not great, it shows some potental. The year before that (in the AHL) he also scored 66 pts in 80 games. If the leafs had more then 2 good offensive prospects (the rest all have large questions marks about whether or not they'll ever make the NHL) I could see this move not making any sense, but wit their lack of offensive talent in their system theres very little to lose by trying him out.

The only fowards they haev in St. Johns that have a realistic shot at the Leafs are Stajan, Wellwood, Holden, Druken and Barrett. Tkaczuk did very well until he was traded, like I said that happens to players sometimes once they get traded, for all we know he could find his scoring touch again, if he doesn't they let him go. There is ZERO harm in trying him out. St. Johns primary "function" is to prepare players for the NHL, so what if a guy like Leeb or Gavey whos only ever going to be an injury call up has to sit some games or get bumped down a line for couple games, months or even a season if he does well.

leeb is younger then tkaczuk. why is tkaczuk still a prospect but leeb only ever going to be an injury call up? tkaczuk coming of a 9 goal ahl season, and leeb 35. you have to look beyond draft position and look at what these guys have actually done.

and you say there are "only" 5 forwards in st.john's with a realistic shot at the leafs? any organization would be doing cartwheels if they had 5 forwards on their farm team with a chance at the nhl team. that's a huge number.

Leeb is a carrer minor leaguer, and I never said Tkaczuk WOULD make the Leafs, I said theres a chance because he was a solid player before he was traded, coming to a new team could give him that boost he lost. Plus Tkaczuk has produced on the NHL level (as I said, 11 pts in 19 games with a pretty bad team), Leeb hasn't. And they're the same age - 24.

Yes, the Leafs have 5 fowards who have a realistic shot, and of those only 2 are any good (even Wellwood is somewhat of a long shot because of his lack of size and speed), the other 3 are future 3rd liners at best. Again, what do they have to lose. If he improves they have another prospect, if eh doesn't they drop him. Nothing lost but everything to gain.

holden druken ponikarovsky
stajan wellwood leeb
gavey cereda
barrett perrott

theres room for a few more forwards on the rock

Leeb is a carrer minor leaguer, and I never said Tkaczuk WOULD make the Leafs, I said theres a chance because he was a solid player before he was traded, coming to a new team could give him that boost he lost. Plus Tkaczuk has produced on the NHL level (as I said, 11 pts in 19 games with a pretty bad team), Leeb hasn't. And they're the same age - 24.

Yes, the Leafs have 5 fowards who have a realistic shot, and of those only 2 are any good (even Wellwood is somewhat of a long shot because of his lack of size and speed), the other 3 are future 3rd liners at best. Again, what do they have to lose. If he improves they have another prospect, if eh doesn't they drop him. Nothing lost but everything to gain.

how is leeb a career minor leaguer while tkaczuk still a potential nhler? that doesn't make any sense. leeb is about 3 months younger and is coming off a huge season, while tkaczuk has done nothing but get worse over the last 3 years.

what tkaczuk did 3 years ago doesn't matter. right now leeb is twice the player tkaczuk is.

yes dan tkaczuk is a name that everyone knows because he was a high pick, but he's a terrible player now.

holden druken ponikarovsky
stajan wellwood leeb
gavey cereda
barrett perrott

theres room for a few more forwards on the rock

room for more? how about daw, palanuk, and ondrus?

I think the Leafs should sign this guy right away.

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What are you laughing at, Habfan?

He'd make your team pretty easily.

how is leeb a career minor leaguer while tkaczuk still a potential nhler? that doesn't make any sense. leeb is about 3 months younger and is coming off a huge season, while tkaczuk has done nothing but get worse over the last 3 years.

what tkaczuk did 3 years ago doesn't matter. right now leeb is twice the player tkaczuk is.

yes dan tkaczuk is a name that everyone knows because he was a high pick, but he's a terrible player now.

Don't you know every other team's prospects, even failings ones, are better than any Leaf prospect.

Sometimes it just takes someone to put it in ink to see how biased they are against the Leafs. This is a prime example where someone sees Leeb as a career minor leaguer and Tkaczuk as a prospect strictly based on the uniform they wear.

"room for more? how about daw, palanuk, and ondrus?"

Daw wants to be traded and as far as I know the other two aren't signed.

Leeb has never done anything ont he NHL level (even at the camp he lead all prospects with 16 shots in the 4 games and didn't score),Tkaczuk has. Its not like signing him would lock him into a million dollar contract for years and years to come - they could get him for a year, two-way deal to see if coming into a different team can jumpstart him. Again theres NO risk in signing him.

palahnuk was signed to a one-year ahl deal in july.

http://www.sjmapleleafs.ca/News/PressReleases/pr76.asp

What are you laughing at, Habfan?

He'd make your team pretty easily.

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What part of Southwestern Ontario are you from?.........anywhere near Hamilton habsfan4life?

"room for more? how about daw, palanuk, and ondrus?"

Daw wants to be traded and as far as I know the other two aren't signed.

Leeb has never done anything ont he NHL level (even at the camp he lead all prospects with 16 shots in the 4 games and didn't score),Tkaczuk has. Its not like signing him would lock him into a million dollar contract for years and years to come - they could get him for a year, two-way deal to see if coming into a different team can jumpstart him. Again theres NO risk in signing him.

ondrus is the only one not signed and he should be signed before anyone like tkaczuk.

there might be no risk, but that doesn't mean it makes sense. his nhl "success" came 3 years ago. you can't just say he needs a change of scenery because he has changed teams since that trade and still did nothing, in the ahl! at least leeb has had recent ahl success, which is more then tkaczuk can say.

if you saw him play lately, you wouldn't be in favor of the leafs signing him. check out the blues board, they're happy to be rid of him. other boards, like this one and the habs one, have people who know his name and therefore want to try him out. a waste of money (however little) and a waste of a spot on the farm.

What part of Southwestern Ontario are you from?.........anywhere near Hamilton habsfan4life?

London... why you ask?