tor/vancouver proposal

how about tucker for malek or sopel

Ferguson says: How about Tucker for Malik or Sopel?

Burke says: *click*

Is it just me or is Tucker the most overated player in the nhl?

Is it just me or is Tucker the most overated player in the nhl?

No, he's not. I really like Tucker - he's a great player - but a lot of people don't like him. Why's that? Well, he's been called a cheapshot artist and I must admit that he is that. He's been labelled a dressing room distraction. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there, but the fact is that even the rumor is enough to scare a lot of GMs away, IMO. However, in spite of his problems, Tucker remains an ideal third liner (a second liner on a poor team) who can score a decent number of goals and assists a season. He is also very useful in that he can get under the opposition's skin and drive them to stupid penalties.

The only thing I truly have a problem with is his goal celebrations. He shouldn't be making fun of those with underbites... :joker:

Getting back on topic, I wouldn't do this deal. I like Tucker, but where would he play?

At left wing (what I'd consider his natural position), we have Naslund, Arvedson, Daniel Sedin, Matt Cooke and Brad May. No room there, we already had to move Daniel Sedin to the right side.

We have Morrison, Henrik Sedin, Chubarov, Lindgren and Reid at center. Yes, we could cut Lindgren loose and give Tucker the 3rd line center spot (pushing Chubie into a fourth line role), but I believe we signed Lindgren to a contract this summer, so I'd say we're at least a little bit committed to him. Besides, he's good on faceoffs and the PK and also a reliable defensive forward. Even if we did decide to move him, we'd probably give his spot to Reid. So Tucker doesn't really fit at center, either.

At right wing, we have Bertuzzi, Linden and Ruutu. Daniel Sedin has also been shifted here, so I don't really see any room once again. Linden is too good to be relegated to the fourth line and so is Tucker. No room here either.

And I'm not too interested in moving Sopel or Malik for Tucker. We need 'em.

Tucker for everyone! YaY!

I really like Tucker as a player, he plays fearless.

how about tucker for malek or sopel


NO MORE LEAF PROPOSALS

my god nothing is going to be done why talk about it

The Canucks don't need Tucker, they need Malik/Sopel. No deal.

Is it just me or is Tucker the most overated player in the nhl?

its probably just you ;)

he is not the most overrated player in the league by any stretch of the imagination

its probably just you ;)

he is not the most overrated player in the league by any stretch of the imagination
Sorry if I was not being clear I was making a sarcastic reference to all the outlandish leaf proposals of getting far better players for nothing more then tucker and leaf filler.

Sorry if I was not being clear I was making a sarcastic reference to all the outlandish leaf proposals of getting far better players for nothing more then tucker and leaf filler.

o.k, that explains it ;)

I used to play against Tucker. And I find it funny that he is always in these trade proposals.

huge no from toronto's side

Vancouver doesn't do this b/c they aren't dealing a dman for something they already have in Cooke.

Toronto doesn't do this b/c of the quality (or lack thereof) of the dmen coming back, as it pertains to what the Leafs need.

this deal doesn't happen because the nucks need their blueline intact for another western conference run. It really has little to do with tuckers value, perceived or otherwise.
If TO wants a blueline they should look to a team that has a nice corps and is in need of offense. Carolina is a no brainer there. Tucker might indeed fetch a capable blueliner in return.
But I think tucker is a nice fit for the leafs.

Why do Toronto fans have to make these kind of proposals?

Why do Toronto fans have to make these kind of proposals?

agreed, they could atleast have a good dman coming back for tucker

agreed, they could atleast have a good dman coming back for tucker

:lol: Classic

how about tucker for malek or sopel


Leafs don't need anymore 5 or 6 defensemen. We need a number 2 or 3 which neither of those players are even close to.

agreed, they could atleast have a good dman coming back for tucker


That was very good lol

Leafs don't need anymore 5 or 6 defensemen. We need a number 2 or 3 which neither of those players are even close to.

you aren't going to get a #2 or 3 defensemen for Tucker. Tucker is a very good 3rd liner but won't aquire a top-4 defender unless there are other circumstances involved (e.g. salary dump).

agreed, they could atleast have a good dman coming back for tucker

You should feel lucky if you even got a Sopel or Malik for Tucker....

Oh you could maybe get a decent #1/2...

If you threw in Antropov.

Ferguson says: How about Tucker for Malik or Sopel?

Burke says: *click*

You read my mind

Not to say that Tucker's value is all that high, and maybe the Canucks don't do this because they need the defensive depth and all, but am I really the only one who thinks Tucker for Malik would be a huge steal for the 'Nucks value wise??

You should feel lucky if you even got a Sopel or Malik for Tucker....

Oh you could maybe get a decent #1/2...

If you threw in Antropov.

i'd feel cheated..

NO MORE LEAF PROPOSALS

my god nothing is going to be done why talk about it
:lol: :lol: :lol: ..

Leafs don't need anymore 5 or 6 defensemen. We need a number 2 or 3 which neither of those players are even close to.
Actually.....what we need in Toronto is a Bonafide #1 Defenceman which we haven't had since the days of Borje Salming.

Actually.....what we need in Toronto is a Bonafide #1 Defenceman which we haven't had since the days of Borje Salming.

OMG a Leafs fans not considering Kaberle a bonafide #1 dman??? wasn't he all the rave last season - the next great one???

You should feel lucky if you even got a Sopel or Malik for Tucker....

Oh you could maybe get a decent #1/2...

If you threw in Antropov.
The guy in Vancouver that the Leafs have ALWAYS wanted is Ohlund........I think the Leafs are trying to build a Team Sweden for the NHL.

The guy in Vancouver that the Leafs have ALWAYS wanted is Ohlund........I think the Leafs are trying to build a Team Sweden for the NHL.

too late... Vancouver already has done it... we have more Swedes than any other team (Naslund, Arvedson, Lindgren, Ohlund, Sedin, Sedin, Hedberg).

and Ohlund will not be moving... he's our most important player on defense and Crow's favorite guy to use out there.

OMG a Leafs fans not considering Kaberle a bonafide #1 dman??? wasn't he all the rave last season - the next great one???
Listen.......I love Kaberle he;s a decent NHL blueliner but don't count me in as one of the guys that thinks he's Top-10 NHLer D-Man ok.........I think on a very good hockey team this guy should be #2 or even #3 guy on the blueline NOT #1 like alot of the other Leafs fans seem to think and believe........

You look at 2 of the Top teams in the League Detroit and Colorado that have won Cups the last little while and Kaberle wouldn't be #1 on those 2-teams.........not even #2........possibly not even the #3 guy there in both places...........Now that's not a knock against Kaberle cause any GM around the League would love to have him..........The knock here is against the Leafs who have known for the LONGEST time that we need a bonafide #1 Defenceman in Toronto and have done absolutely nothing in their Power to remedy the situation..........

It's time for John Ferguson jr. to STOP sitting on his hands and start making some deals for some blueline help.

too late... Vancouver already has done it... we have more Swedes than any other team (Naslund, Arvedson, Lindgren, Ohlund, Sedin, Sedin, Hedberg).

and Ohlund will not be moving... he's our most important player on defense and Crow's favorite guy to use out there.

Great!..........you could have also had Jonas Hoglund if you asked us......he's now playing down in Florida.

Listen.......I love Kaberle he;s a decent NHL blueliner but don't count me in as one of the guys that thinks he's Top-10 NHLer D-Man ok.........I think on a very good hockey team this guy should be #2 or even #3 guy on the blueline NOT #1 like alot of the other Leafs fans seem to think and believe........

You look at 2 of the Top teams in the League Detroit and Colorado that have won Cups the last little while and Kaberle wouldn't be #1 on those 2-teams.........not even #2........possibly not even the #3 guy there in both places...........Now that's not a knock against Kaberle cause any GM around the League would love to have him..........The knock here is against the Leafs who have known for the LONGEST time that we need a bonafide #1 Defenceman in Toronto and have done absolutely nothing in their Power to remedy the situation..........

It's time for John Ferguson jr. to STOP sitting on his hands and start making some deals for some blueline help.

I agree with everything you said...

but what can Ferguson do?? how many teams out there will move #1 or #2 dmen?? there are none available as UFAs, and no team wants to move one.... the Leafs would need to have a lot of moveable assets to land one, and they don't.

Teams that have such dmen are trying to contend, so they will not be looking to move their top blueliner for a multiplayer swap... teams that can, don't have legit #1 dmen that would really help the Leafs, and what they have as their best dmen, will still cost a lot to get.

I think as things stand right now, the Leafs best chance is to develop one of their own... and this takes time, so in the meantime the best strategy - most realistic one at least - is trying to add as much depth as they can, so they can compensate by committee... unfortunately for the Leafs not only are they missing a legit #1 man, but also lack quality depth as well.

Great!..........you could have also had Jonas Hoglund if you asked us......he's now playing down in Florida.

good... he's one Swede that I want as far away from the Canucks as possible

it's nice to see we're all in agreement.. :)

Vancouver doesn't do this b/c they aren't dealing a dman for something they already have in Cooke.

Toronto doesn't do this b/c of the quality (or lack thereof) of the dmen coming back, as it pertains to what the Leafs need.

As if the Leafs wouldnt want to get their hands on Sopel :rolleyes:.

As if the Leafs wouldnt want to get their hands on Sopel :rolleyes:.


:lol:.. please oh please.. we can add him to berg, kaberle, pilar, hedin, and the newly non physical mccabe

As if the Leafs wouldnt want to get their hands on Sopel :rolleyes:.
Well, you either dont seem to know what the Leafs need, or have a gross misrepresentation of what type of Dman sopel is, so we'll just leave it at that.