poll - London vs Kitchener

Who will win and in how many games.

I say London in 5. Reading some Kitchener quotes it seems like they don't really expect to win and just hope to put up a fight. Voakes basically said "we're not going to get swept" and "it'll go six at least".

They could just be ensuring nothing they say goes on any London locker room boards.

Who will win and in how many games.

I say London in 5. Reading some Kitchener quotes it seems like they don't really expect to win and just hope to put up a fight. Voakes basically said "we're not going to get swept" and "it'll go six at least".

They could just be ensuring nothing they say goes on any London locker room boards.
Have you seen Voakes play? That quote equates pretty well with his on-ice spark.....

Aren't you jumping the gun a little? Who knew it would be Kitchener sitting around waiting to see who they play in round 3? :joker:

Have you seen Voakes play? That quote equates pretty well with his on-ice spark.....

Aren't you jumping the gun a little? Who knew it would be Kitchener sitting around waiting to see who they play in round 3? :joker:

Do you think if Kitchener is holding a practise today they'll be watching any Spitfire game tapes? I doubt it. Every quote I saw from them (including the coach) was about playing London - so if I'm jumping the gun I'm not the only one.

It would be one of the bigger hockey upsets of the year if Windsor won *tonight* - and that would just make London mad.

Tom

London in 5.

I don't think there's any doubt on earth that London will win their series with Windsor - I was just having fun (and I may be a little giddy from the shock of watching Kitchener sweep the Attack...).

I don't think there's any doubt on earth that London will win their series with Windsor - I was just having fun (and I may be a little giddy from the shock of watching Kitchener sweep the Attack...).

You deserve to be giddy - it was a very impressive win. :handclap:

I'm also excited at the prospect of London finally having a worthy opponent.


Tom

You couldn't wait till 10pm to start this thread? Or even till the end of the 1st period? Have a little sympathy for the Spits fans on here please. :cry:

Congrats on the sweep Charlie Girl, I pass the Perry heckling torch on to you. Do it proud. :D

You couldn't wait till 10pm to start this thread? Or even till the end of the 1st period? Have a little sympathy for the Spits fans on here please. :cry:

:biglaugh: ....London in 5 is my prediction but it could easily go 6. Should be a good series.

Congrats on the sweep Charlie Girl, I pass the Perry heckling torch on to you. Do it proud. :D

I'll try to do as good a job as you've done.... I think I'm up to the task!

This thread should be deleted and re-posted if/when London actually makes the third round. I don't think there's much doubt, but, "there's a reason why they play the games".

Have you seen Voakes play? That quote equates pretty well with his on-ice spark.....

Aren't you jumping the gun a little? Who knew it would be Kitchener sitting around waiting to see who they play in round 3? :joker:


Our series should be done, but the OHL commissoners office is stupid!

This thread should be deleted and re-posted if/when London actually makes the third round. I don't think there's much doubt, but, "there's a reason why they play the games".

Dunno - seems a waste to delete this entire thread and repost in 3 1/2 hours.

Tom

Dunno - seems a waste to delete this entire thread and repost in 3 1/2 hours.

Tom

Someone's confident

I've been wrong in every prediction I've made since joining, Kitchener in 7.

I've been wrong in every prediction I've made since joining, Kitchener in 7.
And you couldn't have picked London?? :D

I think London takes it in 5. Kitchener has really battled hard through this whole playoffs (especially Richards, jeez). But I think the Knights are just too strong.

And you couldn't have picked London?? :D
I know. You probably would've wanted the jinx on their side. But it's got to be a gut feeling and my gut is siding with Kitchener.

I know. You probably would've wanted the jinx on their side. But it's got to be a gut feeling and my gut is siding with Kitchener.

I guess if you're wrong on every pick since joining, the fact that you're going to be wrong on one more isn't a big deal :D

Tom

I know. You probably would've wanted the jinx on their side. But it's got to be a gut feeling and my gut is siding with Kitchener.
Thanks...

Hey - you have to be right eventually. Here's hoping this is the time!

I just don't think there is a team out there in the O that can take 4 of 7 from the Knights, IIRC the Knights didn't lose two games to one team any time this year.....why start now? They were a perfect 6-0 against Kitchener this year, and came back a few times as well. I know the playoffs are a different ball game, but Richards can't be on the ice when waves of 4 good lines are going at you.

I just don't think there is a team out there in the O that can take 4 of 7 from the Knights, IIRC the Knights didn't lose two games to one team any time this year.....why start now? They were a perfect 6-0 against Kitchener this year, and came back a few times as well. I know the playoffs are a different ball game, but Richards can't be on the ice when waves of 4 good lines are going at you.

Someone's confident :sarcasm:

You're right though - no team has beaten London more than once. I've felt all year no team is going to be able to win 4 against these guys - they're just too deep.

I'm hoping kitchener takes two games so that there'll be three games to attend at least.
I went to the knights game in london tonight, and jeez, this whole OHL playoffs thing is getting pretty expensive.


Now i've gotta figure out how to get up at 8:00 am on saturday to go get tickets to another game...

anyone know when the schedule will be released so that I don't end up buying tickets to a game playing when I have an exam? Cause that'd be a tough choice...... :D

London in 5

Kitchener in 6, they are bigger and stronger and will win this series physically IMO. Also their penalty kill is great right now.

Kitchener in 6, they are bigger and stronger and will win this series physically IMO. Also their penalty kill is great right now.

The Kitchener / Owen Sound series proved more about Owen Sound then it did about Kitchener. Kitchener is playing well but they're still the team that put up a big donut in the win column in 6 games against London. London is deeper then Owen Sound, mentally tougher and better defensively. I just don't see Kitchener pulling it off.

Whatever happens, I think Kitchener will better prepare London for whomever comes out of the West (as in the Memorial Cup WHL team).

I say London in 5........

London in 5.

Kitchener in 6, they are bigger and stronger and will win this series physically IMO. Also their penalty kill is great right now.

This right here is anger speaking.

Ohhhh I can't wait for this one to start!!!! I think Kitchener is a much more balanced team than OS and am not surprised they beat them, but am surprised by the sweep. Nobody predicted that on this board. IMO Kitchener poses a much tougher opponent than OS would have so i'll admit, Kitchener has me worried a little bit. But everytime I have a little bit of doubt w/ my Knights they've come out and thumped the opponent.

Realistically and on paper London should win this in 5, but I think Kitchener will take the series to 6 games but run short. This should be the best series in the playoffs by far and one of the best series in the CHL.

It will be fun to see who gets more points Perry vs Richards, i'll take Perry 9 pts in 6 games to Richards 7 pts in 6 games. The fights could be spectacular as well Prust, Thomson, Bealieau vs Keefe, Clarkson, Valabik .... oh can't wait to see PRUST vs VALABIK .....And the goaltending matchup will be great, Kitcheners goalie was red hot against OS and will have to be and even more to beat London. The difference w/ London and OS is London's defence is much stronger, offence is a little more balanced and goaltending should be fine as we have two of the best in the league.

Therefore, London in a grueling 6 games!!

Ohhhh I can't wait for this one to start!!!! I think Kitchener is a much more balanced team than OS and am not surprised they beat them, but am surprised by the sweep. Nobody predicted that on this board. IMO Kitchener poses a much tougher opponent than OS would have so i'll admit, Kitchener has me worried a little bit. But everytime I have a little bit of doubt w/ my Knights they've come out and thumped the opponent.

Realistically and on paper London should win this in 5, but I think Kitchener will take the series to 6 games but run short. This should be the best series in the playoffs by far and one of the best series in the CHL.

It will be fun to see who gets more points Perry vs Richards, i'll take Perry 9 pts in 6 games to Richards 7 pts in 6 games. The fights could be spectacular as well Prust, Thomson, Bealieau vs Keefe, Clarkson, Valabik .... oh can't wait to see PRUST vs VALABIK .....And the goaltending matchup will be great, Kitcheners goalie was red hot against OS and will have to be and even more to beat London. The difference w/ London and OS is London's defence is much stronger, offence is a little more balanced and goaltending should be fine as we have two of the best in the league.

Therefore, London in a grueling 6 games!!

Turple? Please, he was good in the last couple series' but I don't think he's Colemanesque :biglaugh:

Turple? Please, he was good in the last couple series' but I don't think he's Colemanesque :biglaugh:
Wow...... you're a big OHL fan, huh?

Wow...... you're a big OHL fan, huh? :biglaugh:

What Charlie_Girl is trying to say here is that it's Pfigler that's going to be going through therapy here for shellshock after the series, not Turple :help:

I like chicks with attitude - unfortunately society just wouldn't accept a kitchener rangers fan and a london knights fan together. ;)

Go Rangers!! K/W Represent!

Go Rangers!! K/W Represent!
Finally! Somebody on my side!!!!! :D

:biglaugh:

What Charlie_Girl is trying to say here is that it's Pfigler that's going to be going through therapy here for shellshock after the series, not Turple :help:
Whether Pfligler needs therapy remains to be seen....

I love the fact that your compadre there figures Turple was good in the last two series..... considering he didn't dress for the entire Owen Sound series and most of the Erie series, that's pretty damn amazing. If he'd just have a word with Dale about playing Coleman the entire series, I'll be happy....

Whether Pfligler needs therapy remains to be seen....

I love the fact that your compadre there figures Turple was good in the last two series..... considering he didn't dress for the entire Owen Sound series and most of the Erie series, that's pretty damn amazing. If he'd just have a word with Dale about playing Coleman the entire series, I'll be happy....

Geeze louise, I was thinking about my last post where I stated that we won the season series 6-0, and Turple was in net for those, so I had Turple on the brain at the time.

I'll take these things happen for 400

Kitchener in 6, they are bigger and stronger and will win this series physically IMO. Also their penalty kill is great right now.


I don't see any PK as stopping the Knights PP for long. They were tops in the league during the regular season and have taken it to another level in the playoffs.

Here's my two cents on the series....

Yes, Kitchener lost all six games against London this year. Most of the games were hard fought, close games and I look for those types of games in the series.

The first two London wins were game 1 and 2 of the season - Kitchener had a number of rookies who were playing in their first or one of their first OHL games (Azavedo - first game, Kindl - first game, Duco - 6th game, Pepe - 15th game - are the most noticeable). These three have played very, very well over the course of the season. Azavedo and Pepe in particular have played extremely well in playoffs. When the season started, it was thought and hoped that they would settle in to the OHL - this has happened. Over the season, a couple of pickups have also become a solid part of the team (Fraser in particular).

The injury situation in Kitchener this year was brutal - name another team that could lose a player of Mike Richards' caliber for a month (not counting the WJC) and still remain competitive. Kitchener had no players who played all 68 games, although McGrath, Benoit, and Keefe played 67. No matter what happens, I'm very proud of how the team has played this year. Considering they've had a full lineup for 6 or 7 games maximum, playing in the Western Conference final is impressive.

London's PP is lethal - the key for Kitchener is to stay out of the box. London is extremely good at getting to pucks first - Kitchener has to try to minimize London's chances. With Pfligler in net, there are a lot of rebounds -- the defensemen have to be vigilant about clearing the front of the net to give Pfligler at least a chance to see a shot.

I don't have a clue how this series is going to end up, although I don't know how anyone can't say London is the favourite - there's no question that this is the case. Kitchener should be tough and they're on a roll. It should be fun!

Go Rangers!! K/W Represent!

I've been tempted to call the Rangers the KW Rangers about 20 times this week. Having lived in Waterloo for a few years I'm so used to calling the city KW. However, I don't think that's accurate. :dunno:

Tom

Geeze louise, I was thinking about my last post where I stated that we won the season series 6-0, and Turple was in net for those, so I had Turple on the brain at the time.

I'll take these things happen for 400
Would you like to try that again?

(I'll give you a helper here..... Kitchener didn't get Turple until mid-November! :))

I wonder if Waterloo will ever get an OHL team. KW has a decent population already, and Waterloo especially is growing at a good clip.

I know there's a junior B team already, but I think KW could support another team maybe... might be too close to Kitchener though have a chance at getting it.

Waterloo would need a better arena first though. I don't know what kind of capacity RIM park has as I've never actually been there, but I doubt it's OHL ready.

Would you like to try that again?

(I'll give you a helper here..... Kitchener didn't get Turple until mid-November! :))

Now, I don't have an undying love for the OHL, and quite frankly, I've never been much of an OHL fan cause I've been too busy with the NHL, but now that they're on hiatus, I'd pay attention to OHL here and there, I know what the Knights are doing in the playoffs almost annually, so the early points of the season, and what other teams do I really don't care for, the games I saw, there was a mammoth in net, and that was Turple. You can blast me for being a casual OHL fan, but I don't care :)

Now, I don't have an undying love for the OHL, and quite frankly, I've never been much of an OHL fan cause I've been too busy with the NHL, but now that they're on hiatus, I'd pay attention to OHL here and there, I know what the Knights are doing in the playoffs almost annually, so the early points of the season, and what other teams do I really don't care for, the games I saw, there was a mammoth in net, and that was Turple. You can blast me for being a casual OHL fan, but I don't care :)

The knights bandwagon is just about full, but we do have a few spots left - so welcome aboard
:yo:

The knights bandwagon is just about full, but we do have a few spots left - so welcome aboard
:yo:

*sigh* what part of "I know what the Knights do every year" do you not understand? I follow them casually, but Im not hardcore, Im not big on any minor hockey, sure it's interesting, but it's not my cup of tea, it's not like this year, I said, hey, the Knights are doing well, lets cheer them NOW.

*sigh* what part of "I know what the Knights do every year" do you not understand? I follow them casually, but Im not hardcore, Im not big on any minor hockey, sure it's interesting, but it's not my cup of tea, it's not like this year, I said, hey, the Knights are doing well, lets cheer them NOW.

It was more of a joke then anything else. Don't take it personally.

The whole city has jumped on the bandwagon so to speak, as very few follow the knights *this* closely when they're not winning.

Tom

Can't wait for the series to start. I have been waiting a few years now for the Knights to win this league, and although they have come close they have never gone over the top. I think if we can beat the Rangers then that would be a harder series than the finals.

I think if we can beat the Rangers then that would be a harder series than the finals.
I agree..... I see a lot of similarities in London's playoff run this year and Kitchener's a couple of years ago -- a relatively easy time in the first two rounds, a dogfight in the conference finals (which was Plymouth in Kitchener's case - hopefully Kitchener gives London a run for their money this year), and then a hard fought but easier time in the finals.

Waterloo would need a better arena first though. I don't know what kind of capacity RIM park has as I've never actually been there, but I doubt it's OHL ready.

The Waterloo Memorial Rec Complex is almost OHL-calibre.

http://balder.prohosting.com/ohlguide/ohamidwest.htm

Anyone know yet when the series starts yet???? I'm dying waiting to find out :jump:

The sched has to be in to the league by noon today (1 hour ago)

Knights in Five!

Anyone know yet when the series starts yet???? I'm dying waiting to find out :jump:

The sched has to be in to the league by noon today (1 hour ago)
I'm anxious to see it too
(please no Saturday game, PLEASE no Saturday game.....)

I hope they play tomorrow, the sooner the better.

Can we have an updated on the Injury situations for each team? I remember Kitchener had some key players out recently, but I have no idea how they are now.

Can we have an updated on the Injury situations for each team? I remember Kitchener had some key players out recently, but I have no idea how they are now.
Kitchener is in better shape than they've been most of the year, BUT Turple more than likely won't be available early on in the series, and it's a question mark on whether he'll be available if it goes to 7. If by some chance the series goes to 7 games with Pfligler in net, he'll be guaranteed the start for that game.

Kitchener is in better shape than they've been most of the year, BUT Turple more than likely won't be available early on in the series, and it's a question mark on whether he'll be available if it goes to 7. If by some chance the series goes to 7 games with Pfligler in net, he'll be guaranteed the start for that game.

You think Turple gets the start even though Pfligler has been so strong? Cripes.. I hope so just so I don't have to type Pfligler anymore..

Tom

You think Turple gets the start even though Pfligler has been so strong? Cripes.. I hope so just so I don't have to type Pfligler anymore..

Tom
Oops.... no, but I guess that wasn't very clear. If Pfligler (a bugger to spell, but kinda fun to say!) gets Kitchener to game 7 against London, there is a 100% chance that he (Pfligler) will start game 7.

Game 1 - Thursday April 21 at London, 7:00 p.m.
Game 2 - Saturday April 23 at Kitchener, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3 - Monday April 25 at London, 7:00 p.m.
Game 4 - Wednesday April 27 at Kitchener, 7:00 p.m.
Game 5 - Friday April 29 at London, 7:30 p.m. *
Game 6 - Sunday May 1 at Kitchener, TBA *
Game 7 - Monday May 2 at London, 7:00 p.m. *

Game 1 - Thursday April 21 at London, 7:00 p.m.
Game 2 - Saturday April 23 at Kitchener, 7:30 p.m.
Game 3 - Monday April 25 at London, 7:00 p.m.
Game 4 - Wednesday April 27 at Kitchener, 7:00 p.m.
Game 5 - Friday April 29 at London, 7:30 p.m. *
Game 6 - Sunday May 1 at Kitchener, TBA *
Game 7 - Monday May 2 at London, 7:00 p.m. *
wow, interesting schedule, back and forth like that. I still shake my head every once in a while when I see that they have only lost seven times this year.

wow, interesting schedule, back and forth like that. I still shake my head every once in a while when I see that they have only lost seven times this year.
Back and forth isn't a big deal with this series.... the rinks are about an hour away from each other.

wow, interesting schedule, back and forth like that. I still shake my head every once in a while when I see that they have only lost seven times this year.

Hunter basically threw the last two games of the year also, FWIW.


Tom

wow, interesting schedule, back and forth like that. I still shake my head every once in a while when I see that they have only lost seven times this year.

How about Perry and Syvret who only lost 2 or 3 games with the Knights and won an additonal 6 w/ team Canada!

Perry and Syvret this year are something like 64-2-2 (57-3+8 for wins)

I can't believe 61% are saying London in 4 or 5. I'm one of the biggest and loudest Knights fans out there and i'm saying in 6 atleast due to Kitcheners resurrection from the dead thanks to Captain Canada (Richards).

I can't wait for this series to start :yo: Its gonna be great !!!!!

Go Knights Go!

I can't believe 61% are saying London in 4 or 5. I'm one of the biggest and loudest Knights fans out there and i'm saying in 6 atleast due to Kitcheners resurrection from the dead thanks to Captain Canada (Richards).

I can't wait for this series to start :yo: Its gonna be great !!!!!

Go Knights Go!

You may absolutely be right in that Kitchener will probably be tough as hell. However, they still have to prove it. London was honestly unchallenged in the OHL this year.

To be the man you got to beat the man :yo:

Tom

Well, i guess i'm waking up bright and early tomorrow to go get tickets...

Well, i guess i'm waking up bright and early tomorrow to go get tickets...
I'd suggest very early..... I've talked to a few people who are talking about getting to the Aud at 4:30 or 5:00 am.

Thank God for season's tickets.......

Why did everyone jump all over be because I predicted Kitchener? Is there something wrong with that?

Oh, BTW that Turple guy is hilarious. Big fan.

London in 5 or 6, but the poll doesn't allow that.

Why did everyone jump all over be because I predicted Kitchener? Is there something wrong with that?

Oh, BTW that Turple guy is hilarious. Big fan.

I disagreed with you but certainly didn't jump all over you, IMO. It's a free country - you have a right to outrageous opinions. :D

Only one guy said it was "anger speaking". I thought you got off easy for going against london ;)

Tom

I disagreed with you but certainly didn't jump all over you, IMO. It's a free country - you have a right to outrageous opinions. :D

Only one guy said it was "anger speaking". I thought you got off easy for going against london ;)

Tom

I suppose I should have expected worse.

I'm hoping kitchener takes two games so that there'll be three games to attend at least.
I went to the knights game in london tonight, and jeez, this whole OHL playoffs thing is getting pretty expensive.


tell me about it..i was at the same game too..and it was great, although I was in standing room in section 304 (centre ice) and had front row standing room, but my dad couldn't see much of the game

But who cares about that game.. as i got to go on the ice for the 2nd intermission! Maybe you saw me.. I was the one who hit the post on my practice shot (having more than 5000 people watching screaming OHHHHH at my stupid little shot is something I'll never forget..but I don't know, but it was awesome..and I took home first prize which included a Official Knights puck with Syvret's autograph on it..plus a bunch of other things as well.

I suppose I should have expected worse.

You have been a thorn in the side of London fans this year, so I don't know why you find it surprising when you get jumped on once or twice. You've made more then a few smart-arse remarks in the london knights forum and you were pretty quick to dismiss London's many wins against OS this year due to injuries.

Now that Owen Sound has been swept by Kitchener *cough* *gag*, you're predicting Kitchener even though London hasn't lost yet in the playoffs and beat them every time in the regular season.

My money says should London do what they are expected and beat Kitchener you'll be picking Peterborough in the OHL finals, and wondering why you get jumped for it.

Tom

The Kitchener / Owen Sound series proved more about Owen Sound then it did about Kitchener. Kitchener is playing well but they're still the team that put up a big donut in the win column in 6 games against London. London is deeper then Owen Sound, mentally tougher and better defensively. I just don't see Kitchener pulling it off.

Whatever happens, I think Kitchener will better prepare London for whomever comes out of the West (as in the Memorial Cup WHL team).

The Ottawa Senators went 5-0 against the Toronto Maple Leafs and got swepped in 4 strait games. NHL teams are far more disciplin then OHL teams the regular season means absolutely nothing. Its embarrasing how cocky you London fans are and im not even a Kitchener fan.

The Ottawa Senators went 5-0 against the Toronto Maple Leafs and got swepped in 4 strait games. NHL teams are far more disciplin then OHL teams the regular season means absolutely nothing. Its embarrasing how cocky you London fans are and im not even a Kitchener fan.

And the award for the most pointless post of the day goes to...

*bert* :clap:

congratulations buddy, your pointless, poorly-written comparison between the Senators and the Attack have taken 30 seconds away from my life that I can never get back.

Regardless of what you think, getting swept by a lower seed team does say something about a teams character and mental toughness. This isn't knights cockiness talking, it's hockey common sense.

Tom

You have been a thorn in the side of London fans this year, so I don't know why you find it surprising when you get jumped on once or twice. You've made more then a few smart-arse remarks in the london knights forum and you were pretty quick to dismiss London's many wins against OS this year due to injuries.

The London Knights forum? This board has one of those? And show me one post where I said Owen Sound lost to London becuase of injuries.


Now that Owen Sound has been swept by Kitchener *cough* *gag*

That's funny you think Owen Sound choked. Just shows how little you know about the two teams and their ages etc.

you're predicting Kitchener

Shock! Horror!


even though London hasn't lost yet in the playoffs

Kitchener has won 8 striaght against much tougher competition.

and beat them every time in the regular season

Much different Kitchener team who are bigger and tougher than the Knights.

My money says should London do what they are expected and beat Kitchener

Big surprise there.


you'll be picking Peterborough in the OHL finals, and wondering why you get jumped for it.

Nah, My money is on Ottawa in that series. Sorry to have so greatly offended you.

Kitchener has won 8 striaght against much tougher competition.

Erie is so much tougher than Kitchener that they had a worse regular season record.

Erie is so much tougher than Kitchener that they had a worse regular season record.

You misunderstand me. The teams Kitchener has faced in the playoffs have been of a higher quality than the teams London has. I appreciate your sarcastic comment though.

And the award for the most pointless post of the day goes to...

*bert* :clap:

congratulations buddy, your pointless, poorly-written comparison between the Senators and the Attack have taken 30 seconds away from my life that I can never get back.

Regardless of what you think, getting swept by a lower seed team does say something about a teams character and mental toughness. This isn't knights cockiness talking, it's hockey common sense.

Tom


:clap: :clap: :handclap:

The London Knights forum? This board has one of those? And show me one post where I said Owen Sound lost to London becuase of injuries.

There is a huge london knights thread - not a forum - incorrect syntax but it almost seemed like one for a while. My deepest apologies.

I found several posts where you *seemingly* used injuries as an excuse. January 30th in the knights thread after someone mentioned that london was 4-1 against OS you said "Still the two teams haven't faced with full line-ups".

One day later you said this "the Attack have not played the Knights with a full lineup" and a couple of posts later we got this..

"Psst..Read the boxscores.

Oct 15- No Big Snake Brown or Bissonette

Oct 23-No Brown or Biss

Jan 9-No Biss or Lehun or Angelidis I think

Jan 29-No Ryan or Angelidis"

Are these posts not using injuries as an excuse, at least partially? Sure seems like it.


That's funny you think Owen Sound choked. Just shows how little you know about the two teams and their ages etc.

Well for a guy who at the beginning of the season said Owen Sound was capable of matching the knights this year, you're sure using age as an excuse. I wonder why a few months ago you didn't think their age was going to be a problem.




Kitchener has won 8 striaght against much tougher competition.



the first round was not terribly impressive, and Owen Sound was an innocent young team with no real chance due to their young age, remember?



Much different Kitchener team who are bigger and tougher than the Knights.

Big surprise there.

I heard no one mention how big and tough the Rangers before they beat the Attack.



Nah, My money is on Ottawa in that series. Sorry to have so greatly offended you.

Nah, you didn't offend me, but if you do get jumped on from time to time just don't be surprised, that's all. In fact, I enjoy your presence - you have a good hockey knowledge and a strong biased that makes "discussions" with you interesting at least.

Tom

There is a huge london knights thread - not a forum - incorrect syntax but it almost seemed like one for a while. My deepest apologies.

No problem, I agree it does seem one in the same at times.

I found several posts where you *seemingly* used injuries as an excuse. January 30th in the knights thread after someone mentioned that london was 4-1 against OS you said "Still the two teams haven't faced with full line-ups".

One day later you said this "the Attack have not played the Knights with a full lineup" and a couple of posts later we got this..

"Psst..Read the boxscores.

Oct 15- No Big Snake Brown or Bissonette

Oct 23-No Brown or Biss

Jan 9-No Biss or Lehun or Angelidis I think

Jan 29-No Ryan or Angelidis"

Are these posts not using injuries as an excuse, at least partially? Sure seems like it.

Actually the only time I see the word injuries there is when you have typed it. My first statement was an obvious mockery of Knights fans who continually used that excuse after their 3-0 loss on December 29th. The 2nd point, which was extremely valid was that with certain acquisitions it was obviously a different Attack team from the one the Knights rolled over early on in the year. The close games between the teams serve as proof for that.


Well for a guy who at the beginning of the season said Owen Sound was capable of matching the knights this year, you're sure using age as an excuse. I wonder why a few months ago you didn't think their age was going to be a problem.

If you had followed Owen Sound's season at all you would know there was always a concern about the age of our blueline. Also , I believe to this day that a London-Owen Sound match up would have been more favourable to the Attack than our seriesagainst the Rangers. The success of the Rangers inthat series proves that. Against London, Owen Sound can play their skilledgae, because London are also a skilled team. Kitchener did something London cannot and beat up the Attack physically and preyed on their young defence in the offensive zone. This is part of the reason I will be cheering for the Knights in the conference finals. I would rather see a purely skilled team emerge than the team which relies on their strength and physicality. I think it would be better for the OHL and for hockey in general.


I heard no one mention how big and tough the Rangers before they beat the Attack.

Unfortunately for Kitchener this season they were decmated by injuries and suspension and as a result I was not able to see their full team. However , what I did know was that they were big, tough, experienced and tough to bea at home. When looking at the series I was able to successfully predict the outcome, despite mythoughts the firepowerof the Attack woud win them some games.




you have a strong biased


Not sure what you are trying to say.

If you had followed Owen Sound's season at all you would know there was always a concern about the age of our blueline. Also , I believe to this day that a London-Owen Sound match up would have been more favourable to the Attack than our seriesagainst the Rangers. The success of the Rangers in that series proves that. Against London, Owen Sound can play their skilledgae, because London are also a skilled team. Kitchener did something London cannot and beat up the Attack physically and preyed on their young defence in the offensive zone. This is part of the reason I will be cheering for the Knights in the conference finals. I would rather see a purely skilled team emerge than the team which relies on their strength and physicality. I think it would be better for the OHL and for hockey in general.

I have followed the Attacks season (albeit not as close as you obviously) and I did know youth on the blueline could end up being a problem. However, most of their bigs guns (Richardson, Ruzicka,Jarrett) as well as their top goalie (Brown) and their tough guy (Big Snake) aren't young players so I think using a young defense as an excuse lets these older players off the hook for not stepping up and leading their team to *at least* one victory. The Rangers also have some young players but their big gun stepped up and got it done.

I didn't call it a choke because they lost - losing to a tough experienced team is nothing new or unexpected (London did it last year). I call it that because they got swept - because in 4 games with all the talent they have and the top goalie they picked up they couldn't win even one game. That being said they seemed like classy guys with a bright future and I don't wish to trash talk them anymore.

I also think the Knights can play more physically then they have played, if need be, and don't have the blueline concerns that OS did. That's why I feel Kitcheners approach isn't going to work as well this time. We're going to find out either way soon enough.


Not sure what you are trying to say.

I'm trying to say that you have a knowledgeable view but it is biased (you see things the way you want to sometimes), such as dismissing the OS loss as just an age and experience thing. There is nothing wrong with this, though, as we all have our own bias, myself included.

Good post by the way, no trolling or cheap shots just the facts, as you see them. ;)

Tom

There is a huge london knights thread - not a forum - incorrect syntax but it almost seemed like one for a while. My deepest apologies.

I found several posts where you *seemingly* used injuries as an excuse. January 30th in the knights thread after someone mentioned that london was 4-1 against OS you said "Still the two teams haven't faced with full line-ups".

One day later you said this "the Attack have not played the Knights with a full lineup" and a couple of posts later we got this..

"Psst..Read the boxscores.

Oct 15- No Big Snake Brown or Bissonette

Oct 23-No Brown or Biss

Jan 9-No Biss or Lehun or Angelidis I think

Jan 29-No Ryan or Angelidis"

Are these posts not using injuries as an excuse, at least partially? Sure seems like it.



Well for a guy who at the beginning of the season said Owen Sound was capable of matching the knights this year, you're sure using age as an excuse. I wonder why a few months ago you didn't think their age was going to be a problem.




the first round was not terribly impressive, and Owen Sound was an innocent young team with no real chance due to their young age, remember?



I heard no one mention how big and tough the Rangers before they beat the Attack.




Nah, you didn't offend me, but if you do get jumped on from time to time just don't be surprised, that's all. In fact, I enjoy your presence - you have a good hockey knowledge and a strong biased that makes "discussions" with you interesting at least.

Tom
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Way to add to the discussion :clap: :clap:

Way to add to the discussion :clap: :clap:

Anytime you need a hand :clap: :clap:

My hand claps were a sybol of wanting to say the exact same thing as Thomas did.

"Owen Sound has some good forwards and I don't see much of a difference with the London forwards," Valabik said. "They're pretty well the same as Owen Sound."


Found this on sportsnet.ca .... interesting Valabik thinks Owen Sounds forwards are the same as Londons? :dunno:

OS: Ryan, Jarret, Ruzicka, Richardson is pretty impressive but as for OHL scoring wise i'd take London anyday

London: Perry, Hunter, Schremp, Bolland, Fritsche, even Prust can score big goals.

The most interesting story of this series for me is how will Valabik handle Londons forwards ...

LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!!! :jump:

"Owen Sound has some good forwards and I don't see much of a difference with the London forwards," Valabik said. "They're pretty well the same as Owen Sound."


Found this on sportsnet.ca .... interesting Valabik thinks Owen Sounds forwards are the same as Londons? :dunno:

OS: Ryan, Jarret, Ruzicka, Richardson is pretty impressive but as for OHL scoring wise i'd take London anyday

London: Perry, Hunter, Schremp, Bolland, Fritsche, even Prust can score big goals.

The most interesting story of this series for me is how will Valabik handle Londons forwards ...

LET THE GAMES BEGIN !!!! :jump:


Near as I can tell, Valabiks way of handling London forwards is giving them an evil eye as they skate quickly by him on their way to the net.

Tom

Anyone have the clip of Perry's toe drag around Valabik 30 seconds into the first game of the season????

probably the nicest goal of the season or close to it

Anytime you need a hand :clap: :clap:

My hand claps were a sybol of wanting to say the exact same thing as Thomas did.

a sybol?

Also London forwards only scored 43 more goals than Owen Sound forwards this year. When a team scores as much as London did. 43 goals isin't a whole bunch. Basically London without Schremp equals Owen Sound. And when Schremp dissapears against a physical team like the Rangers, the difference becomes even less.

London takes the first game 3-2.

Kitchener held them in the first period, when they spent most of it killing penalties. The Rangers have to stop taking the stupid ones (Clarkson, in particular). The penalty kill was working well, holding London to 1 powerplay goal on a ton of chances and a few 5 on 3's.

Interesting fight at the end of the game though... Richards vs Perry. Game 2 ought to be a great one!

Also London forwards only scored 43 more goals than Owen Sound forwards this year. When a team scores as much as London did. 43 goals isin't a whole bunch. Basically London without Schremp equals Owen Sound. And when Schremp dissapears against a physical team like the Rangers, the difference becomes even less.

London without Schremp is Owen Sound offensively, but defensively they still have better goaltending and defense ( IMO, of course ).. Dennis may have been the difference tonight. This may prove to be an interesting series

Tom

London without Schremp is Owen Sound offensively, but defensively they still have better goaltending and defense ( IMO, of course ).. Dennis may have been the difference tonight. This may prove to be an interesting series

Tom

Yeah for sure. London gets loads of goals from their defence that Owen Sound doesn't. Along with their defence being better defensively. I've never been high on Dennis though.We'll see.

Yeah for sure. London gets loads of goals from their defence that Owen Sound doesn't. Along with their defence being better defensively. I've never been high on Dennis though.We'll see.

For once I agree with you, I have never been sold on Dennis either. But if he keeps playing like he did last night then I might just have to change my mind.
I read the Knights are probably going to Coleman for game 2 in KW. IMO they should stick w/ Dennis until he has a bad game (even though Coleman beat the Rangers 5 times this season I think)

Yeah for sure. London gets loads of goals from their defence that Owen Sound doesn't. Along with their defence being better defensively. I've never been high on Dennis though.We'll see.

Dennis does seem to to play big when he needs to, but he does have a tendancy to go through lapses ( last night he was very sharp for 2 1/2 periods and then had a bit of a lapse ). Obviously Hunter is high on the guy, but if he struggles, I'm quite confident in Londons backup.

Tom

It looked like Kitchener dressed up Theo Fleury in hockey pads and put him in net.

Seriously, though, Pfligler played well but that size has to be a bit of a disadvantage.

Tom

Near as I can tell, Valabiks way of handling London forwards is giving them an evil eye as they skate quickly by him on their way to the net.

Tom
LMAO :D

It looked like Kitchener dressed up Theo Fleury in hockey pads and put him in net.
He looks even smaller when you're used to seeing 6'6" Turple in there!

Oh man, we got killed in that series but I'd be lying if I said we didn't get some funny heckles in a Fligler, Keefe, Benoit etc.

Another great game tonight. I had a feeling Kitchener was going to win tonight. Great effort by Richards, unfortunately for Kitchener fans I don't think he can win 4 games all by himself.

I'm still saying London in 6, but I hope 7 b/c I have tix to every game left :yo:

yeah that game last night was totally worth the five hours in line on friday morning... I may have to do it again tuesday morning....

And yeah, Perry took a hell of alot of abuse from the fans last night, it was a little overboard IMO.

yeah that game last night was totally worth the five hours in line on friday morning... I may have to do it again tuesday morning....

And yeah, Perry took a hell of alot of abuse from the fans last night, it was a little overboard IMO.
What were the fans doing?

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What were the fans doing?
Probably asking Perry where he left his purse? :D

Another great game tonight. I had a feeling Kitchener was going to win tonight. Great effort by Richards, unfortunately for Kitchener fans I don't think he can win 4 games all by himself.

I'm still saying London in 6, but I hope 7 b/c I have tix to every game left :yo:

What a true fan - hoping for a game seven b/c you have tickets.. :sarcasm:

I'd be happy as hell to not have to see Richards after 5 games, although it doesn't look like that's going to be the case.

Tom

I can handle Rodney not playing with an injury, but Fritsche not there either with the FLU ?!?

Didn't the guy just have the flu during the world juniors? Doesn't he have an immune system like the rest of us? London needs Fritsche's scoring and this is something I find disturbing.

Tom

Knights played very poorly last night and allowed Kitchener to take it to them right from the start of the game. Coleman had a good showing, as did Phfligler (sp?). I think Dale's got them playing a little too patient, the Knights are always sound defensively but I think they're sitting back a too much and need to be more aggressive on the forecheck. I'm not nearly his biggest critic, but I've gotta say Dylan Hunter was noticeably terrible last night. The top line was overused, but Perry can soak up big minutes, Dylan.... not so much.

Knights played very poorly last night and allowed Kitchener to take it to them right from the start of the game. Coleman had a good showing, as did Phfligler (sp?). I think Dale's got them playing a little too patient, the Knights are always sound defensively but I think they're sitting back a too much and need to be more aggressive on the forecheck. I'm not nearly his biggest critic, but I've gotta say Dylan Hunter was noticeably terrible last night. The top line was overused, but Perry can soak up big minutes, Dylan.... not so much.

I noticed Hunter floating out there a few times. I think the Knights will come out flying Monday night and I hope Fritsche is ok to play, we need his speed and enthiusiasm.

What a true fan - hoping for a game seven b/c you have tickets.. :sarcasm:

I'd be happy as hell to not have to see Richards after 5 games, although it doesn't look like that's going to be the case.

Tom

I agree about not having to see Richards for games 6 or 7, but i'm pretty sure the Rangers will atleast take the series to 6 games before bowing out. If it goes to 7 its gonna be onehelluva game.

Did I mention I have tickets? :biglaugh: :jump:

Anybody know how to get in contact w/ the booster club? I wanna go to game 6 in Kitchener and its nearly impossible to get tickets online or the phone.

London Knights forward Josh Beaulieu has been suspended five games for his actions in Saturday's OHL playoff game against the Kitchener Rangers.

Beaulieu received the suspension for cross-checking Rangers forward Kevin Henderson in the back of the head late in the third period of Kitchener's 3-1 Western Conference win over London.

More here @ TSN (http://tsn.ca/chl/news_story.asp?id=122850)

Both teams did recieve fines.

I had a class that I absolutely could not miss and unfortunately was unable to go to the game. Someone want to give me a synopsis? Near as I can tell the knights PP unit was on fire and that put the game out of reach early.

Any good fights? Any notes on how KW / London played otherwise?

I had a class that I absolutely could not miss and unfortunately was unable to go to the game. Someone want to give me a synopsis? Near as I can tell the knights PP unit was on fire and that put the game out of reach early.

Any good fights? Any notes on how KW / London played otherwise?


Just got back from the game and wow ... Kitchener played the perfect game on Saturday ... and tonight London played the perfect game. It also helps Keefe, Clarkson and Valabik played about as dumb as hockey as Danny Bois did last year in the playoffs. I am a Knight fan but i'll admit Bois took some of the dumbest penalties i've ever seen until tonight. London really got under Keefe and Clarkson skin and Valabik took some uneccesary penalites... Whats w/ his infatuation w/ Perry, he always goes after him after the whistle. Perry was skating towards the boards after the whistle just mindin his own business and Valabik punches him in the head and for once it wasn't even provoked.

I think the turning point came when Deboer took a bench penalty about 9 minutes into the first that put them down 2 and I think London scored 2 goals on that PP (atleast one).

What stood out for me though tonight was the little things London did exceptionally well.. I lost count at the number of block shots they had after 10 and they were hitting everything in sight ... even Perry had 3 or 4 good clean hits (surprisingly clean)..

The refs called absolutely everything under the sun as they should w/ 22 penalties to London and 21 to Kitchener. I agree w/ the majority of the calls except the 5 minute boarding and game misconduct to Prust. He absolutely drilled I think Lashoff and from what I saw it looked 100% clean. If someone has a link to the hit i'd appreciate another look to see if it was clean or not...but it was an open ice hit or atleast 5 feet from the boards so i don't see how it was boarding.

Anywyas there was a few duzzies of fights ... w/ Thomson absolutely knocking Keefe silly. Keefe started it and it didn't look like Thomson wanted to go or was ready and then he finally dropped his stick and knocked him into the boards/glass a few times ... :bow:

I hope that sums it up for ya... oh yeah and Syvret had 3 assists in the first 10 minuts and then go hit from behind into the boards head first like the US/Can hit but less severe.. Syvret laid there for a few minutes then skated to bench w/ help then left a few minutes later.

I hope that sums it up for ya... oh yeah and Syvret had 3 assists in the first 10 minuts and then go hit from behind into the boards head first like the US/Can hit but less severe.. Syvret laid there for a few minutes then skated to bench w/ help then left a few minutes later.
Per TSN, Syvret was taken to the hospital, no other details. I doubt he plays Wednesday and could be out for the remainder of the OHL playoffs. Hopefully he is ok.
I agree w/ the majority of the calls except the 5 minute boarding and game misconduct to Prust. He absolutely drilled I think Lashoff and from what I saw it looked 100% clean.

He got called for charging. He left his feet but barely, you can argue it was because of the impact. I thought 2 minutes would be appropriate with the ref trying to keep everything quiet but 5 was ridiculous. Prust landed the exact same hit 3 times this game, all on the PK with the D man bringing the puck out of the zone. With the game out of hand and Lashoff hurt on the play 5 and game was called.

He got called for charging. He left his feet but barely, you can argue it was because of the impact. I thought 2 minutes would be appropriate with the ref trying to keep everything quiet but 5 was ridiculous. Prust landed the exact same hit 3 times this game, all on the PK with the D man bringing the puck out of the zone. With the game out of hand and Lashoff hurt on the play 5 and game was called.[/QUOTE]

i thought 2 at most would have been ok, 5 and game was wrong. prust is one of the best hitters especially open ice in the league.

will the league review the hit on syvret?

will the league review the hit on syvret?

Yes.

I talked to a player after the game that said Syvy was taken to hospital as a precaution but should be OK. His parents were both at the JLC after the game so I can't imagine it's that serious. He'll be sore tomorrow but I expect he'll be back for Game 4.

Yes.

I talked to a player after the game that said Syvy was taken to hospital as a precaution but should be OK. His parents were both at the JLC after the game so I can't imagine it's that serious. He'll be sore tomorrow but I expect he'll be back for Game 4.


dou think any further discipline will be taken?

dou think any further discipline will be taken?

Given the 5-game suspension already handed to Bealieu, you can bet the Rangers player will be suspended.

Yes.

I talked to a player after the game that said Syvy was taken to hospital as a precaution but should be OK. His parents were both at the JLC after the game so I can't imagine it's that serious. He'll be sore tomorrow but I expect he'll be back for Game 4.

Wish I could say I'm surprised to see a London defenceman get hurt, but unfortunately I'm not. It's to be expected I think, the London D-men have big targets on their back this series

Tom

Speaking of London dman, it was fun to watch Ferry get a lot of icetime in the 3rd period and on the powerplay. Should boost his confidence a little and help him for next season.

In fact almost the whole 3rd period, we didn't see C. Perry, Fritsche or Hunter. Schremp and Bolland had a few shifts, so it was nice to see Foreman, A Perry, Martinelli, McCreedy and the other 3rd and 4th liners.

:amazed: Fat Boy beat up Caveman!

:amazed: Fat Boy beat up Caveman!

He's not fat he's big boned.

So, knights fans, gagne, whomever else cares enough, what do you guys think?

Should the knights stick with Coleman or go with Dennis. I think they'll probably continue with Coleman, and he's played well enough to deserve this, and played quite solidly in Kitchener despite the loss.

However, Dennis has been the top goalie in the OHL playoffs IMO (stats back me up on this) and really shuts teams down at important times. Putting him in might signal London going for the kill and certainly Kitchener has to be a little concerned about their inability to get goals on Dennis when it matters.

Thoughts?

Tom

So, knights fans, gagne, whomever else cares enough, what do you guys think?

Should the knights stick with Coleman or go with Dennis. I think they'll probably continue with Coleman, and he's played well enough to deserve this, and played quite solidly in Kitchener despite the loss.

However, Dennis has been the top goalie in the OHL playoffs IMO (stats back me up on this) and really shuts teams down at important times. Putting him in might signal London going for the kill and certainly Kitchener has to be a little concerned about their inability to get goals on Dennis when it matters.

Thoughts?

Tom
I vote Coleman! :D IMO, Dennis was the biggest difference in last night's game - simply outstanding.

Given the 5-game suspension already handed to Bealieu, you can bet the Rangers player will be suspended.
I hope not.... even the London announcers indicated that it was unfortunate, but that Syvret was off-balance, and turned just as Donnally hit him. I'm hearing that he's going to be okay, and able to play in game 4 - I hope that is the case. He's a force on the blueline and a complete leader.

If Dale Hunter has any sense in his cranium he will ditch Coleman for good.

If Dale Hunter has any sense in his cranium he will ditch Coleman for good.

Tell us what you really think Gagne... lol

That was a little harsh, IMO, sounds like you're talking about Ryan "soft goals" Mcdonald..

Tom

Tell us what you really think Gagne... lol

That was a little harsh, IMO, sounds like you're talking about Ryan "soft goals" Mcdonald..

Tom

I agree, but I hope that Coleman is done like dinner, and we can rely on Dennis.

As for the Syvret hit..it was clean. Might have deserved 2 minutes, but there was no real intent on the play, and I hope the Rangers get no disciplinary action over that.

Dennis gets the start tonight - seems like Hunter must have been reading this board.. :D

Syvret may not play though, still undetermined. Also, both the Prust and Syvret hit are being reviewed by the league. I'd be surprised if either lead to a suspension.

Tom

Lashoff is definitely not playing tonight...

Here's his take on the Prust hit (www.therecord.com - but you need a password)

Lashoff said he saw Prust coming, but didn't expect him to leap at his head.

"We were on a breakout," Lashoff explained. "I tried to get (Prust) to bite, and then dish the puck off to a forward.

"But he didn't seem to have any other intention except to come at me, which isn't a bad thing. But he didn't go for my body. He went for my head."

There's no question Prust left his feet.... whether it's a suspendable offense remains to be seen.

There's no question Prust left his feet.... whether it's a suspendable offense remains to be seen.
I really doubt that Prust will get suspended for this. Yes it was a charge, but its not like he went steaming from across the ice to nail him, he just did a lil jump. Big deal. I would be susprised if he got a game for that hit. Anything more than 1 game would be ubsurd.

I really doubt that Prust will get suspended for this. Yes it was a charge, but its not like he went steaming from across the ice to nail him, he just did a lil jump. Big deal. I would be susprised if he got a game for that hit. Anything more than 1 game would be ubsurd.

Disagree. The hit was intentional, and down right dirty. It deserves a suspension, and considering why it happened, when it happened, and who did it, it should be a lengthy one. If Branch is going to lay the law down with the Storm, then he has to do the same with London (which he won't, because he is a moron).

The hit on Syrvet was bad, but it was unfortunate. Hits like that do deserve 5 minute majors, but in this case (like the under 18 hit) don't deserve a suspension.

Disagree. The hit was intentional, and down right dirty. It deserves a suspension, and considering why it happened, when it happened, and who did it, it should be a lengthy one. If Branch is going to lay the law down with the Storm, then he has to do the same with London (which he won't, because he is a moron).
I guess we will have to wait and see about this one.

The hit on Syrvet was bad, but it was unfortunate. Hits like that do deserve 5 minute majors, but in this case (like the under 18 hit) don't deserve a suspension.
I agree about the hit on Syrvet. I don't think a suspension should be handed out there. It really didn't look that intentional, plus it kind of looked like Syrvet was in the process of turning around too. I guess you could make a case either way.

Prust gets 3 games for the hit on Lashoff
Donnally gets 5 games for the hit on Syvret

http://www.ckco.ca/sports.php?PHPSESSID=d0a51596b02baf0df556fa2edba5e c73

Disagree. The hit was intentional, and down right dirty. It deserves a suspension, and considering why it happened, when it happened, and who did it, it should be a lengthy one. If Branch is going to lay the law down with the Storm, then he has to do the same with London (which he won't, because he is a moron).

The hit on Syrvet was bad, but it was unfortunate. Hits like that do deserve 5 minute majors, but in this case (like the under 18 hit) don't deserve a suspension.

Branch already did lay down the law with London, 2 days ago. If you think London has gotten off easy you're wrong.

Wonder how many more london defensemen have to get hurt before people start to wonder if all these injuries are just unfortunate accidents.


Tom

[QUOTE]Branch already did lay down the law with London, 2 days ago. If you think London has gotten off easy you're wrong.
Branch had no choice but to 'lay down the law' with Beaulieu's crosscheck - that was obscene, and deserved 5 games.

Wonder how many more london defensemen have to get hurt before people start to wonder if all these injuries are just unfortunate accidents.

I wonder if that had been Lashoff/Fraser/Pepe on Prust, it would have resulted in 3 games? 3 games is a gift. But if does have him able to play game 7 should this series go that far, or most of the OHL finals. Coincidence?

Branch had no choice but to 'lay down the law' with Beaulieu's crosscheck - that was obscene, and deserved 5 games.

True, but the idea of London getting off easy this series is absolutely absurd, they're suffering two major injuries and now have 2 suspensions ( Beaulieu's was certainly deserved, not trying to argue that).



I wonder if that had been Lashoff/Fraser/Pepe on Prust, it would have resulted in 3 games? 3 games is a gift. But if does have him able to play game 7 should this series go that far, or most of the OHL finals. Coincidence?

Seems fair to me, Prust will probably have to play defense by the time game 7 rolls around as all of London's defenders will have been "unfortunately" hurt.

Tom

Coincidence?

Nope. Just like how Bois only got enough games last year to be able to return for the finals (in which they didn't get to).

I'm telling you, Branch is a moron, and even though he runs the CHL, he has a heavy hand in the OHL, and is tired of seeing the West win. He's making sure London is locked, stocked and ready for the big dance.

Seems fair to me, Prust will probably have to play defense by the time game 7 rolls around as all of London's defenders will have been "unfortunately" hurt.
You seem to be forgetting that Kitchener has a defender who was "unfortunately" hurt as well. Lashoff will not be back until at least next Monday (7 days from the date the concussion occurred) - that's the best case scenario.

I'm not saying that Syvret wasn't hurt because he was, but you have to admit that the situations surrounding the cause of Lashoff and Syvret's injuries is far different.

I'm telling you, Branch is a moron, and even though he runs the CHL, he has a heavy hand in the OHL, and is tired of seeing the West win. He's making sure London is locked, stocked and ready for the big dance.

How?

On the suspensions I think both are to much. When I saw the Prust hit I thought 2 minutes. I thought he might get suspended 1 game. The syvret hit I thought should have been a penalty, especially with the game being called so tight. A suspension maybe 1 game, the same with prust. With Rodney, Syvret, Prust, out tonight Kitchener has to win IMO.

You seem to be forgetting that Kitchener has a defender who was "unfortunately" hurt as well. Lashoff will not be back until at least next Monday (7 days from the date the concussion occurred) - that's the best case scenario.

I'm not saying that Syvret wasn't hurt because he was, but you have to admit that the situations surrounding the cause of Lashoff and Syvret's injuries is far different.

It was more obvious in Prusts case, but I'm not sure the intent of either of them was much different. I'm just very annoyed because London is without two top enforcers now. That gives Kitcheners big guys a huge opportunity to go out and try to hurt some London players, using clean checks or otherwise. But hey, I'm sure this is part of Branch's master plan to have London stacked and ready for the Mem Cup :shakehead

That being said, I didn't realize Lashoff was hurt that badly and if that's the case the suspension is deserved. I don't like to see players hurt on Kitchener, either.

Tom

How?

Lets see, Pottruff gets 12 games for a slash to a leg against a London Knight. Bellieu gets only 5 games for a crosscheck to a Ranger's head.

On a hit that every one has called unforunate, but unintentional, Donnally gets 5 games for his hit on a Knight player. Yet, for a deliberate hit to the head, in an already decided game (ie dirty), he only nabs Knight forward Prust 3 games.

Only Knight fans would think these suspension/calls are fair and even handed.

Lets see, Pottruff gets 12 games for a slash to a leg against a London Knight. Bellieu gets only 5 games for a crosscheck to a Ranger's head.

On a hit that every one has called unforunate, but unintentional, Donnally gets 5 games for his hit on a Knight player. Yet, for a deliberate hit to the head, in an already decided game (ie dirty), he only nabs Knight forward Prust 3 games.

Only Knight fans would think these suspension/calls are fair and even handed.

Pottruff was *told* to go out and "break someone's wrist" by Barr and that's exactly what he did. Completely different situation. If it could be proven that Hunter told Prust to go do take someone's head off, I'm sure the suspension would have been more severe. Apples to Oranges.

You can talk about knights bias all you want, but you're more biased against the knights then just about any knights fans are biased towards them. You're like the reverse of tranhans. Unlike reasonable posters like Gagne, CharlieGirl, etc., I can't take anything you say seriously because it's almost comical how everything is a conspiracy in your mind.

Should the knights win the OHL it's quite obvious you're going to be here trying to rain on their parade, saying the refs and Branch were all biased, etc etc. Should they lose you'll be here also, I'm sure, to gloat, talk about choking and how they don't deserve the Memorial Cup without having ever won a league championship. Funny how it's a no lose situation for you.

Tom

Yet, for a deliberate hit to the head, in an already decided game (ie dirty), he only nabs Knight forward Prust 3 games.

Only Knight fans would think these suspension/calls are fair and even handed.

I just watched the Prust on Lashoff clip (without having seen any of the rest of the game) and it looked like a 2 minute charging penalty to me. At most a 5 minute for elbowing. I don't think there should have been any suspension. Lashoff should've had his helmet on properly though.

And no, I'm not a Knights fan.

Prust and Donally should both be in uniform tonight but this is an advantage to the Rangers because Prust is a key player for London and Donally is agoon who hurts the Rangers more than he helps them.

Prust and Donally should both be in uniform tonight but this is an advantage to the Rangers because Prust is a key player for London and Donally is agoon who hurts the Rangers more than he helps them.


I think the league is trying to send a message to both teams. Clean it up or we will start to through out some heavey suspensions.

Fairly clean - especially relative to the last few games. London controlled most of the game but played almost like they thought it was a regular season game it seemed. Defensively they choked the last couple minutes and almost deserved to lose IMO.

Pfligler played strong.. Dennis played a little soft, kind of disappointing (couldn't help the last goal, though, not his fault ).

Pretty good game tonight but nothing like the last few games in regards to penalties. The refs still called alot but both teams played much cleaner. The only beef I have w/ the refs is they blew the whistle a few times with the puck still loose and w/ the knights on a power play Perry and Fritsche were on a 2 on 1 and it was a late call offside. The dumb camera guys or broadcasters didn't show a good view if was offside or not but I was sure it wasn't. Oh well can't be perfect right.

Kitchener showed great heart and tenacity to come back and tie it twice and w/ 6 seconds left, unfortunately for them these Knights are not the Otters or Attack and didn't fold in OT. The winning goal was an odd one that I didn't see go in until the replays came on.

Before the series I thought KW would have won game 2 and 4 but after getting knocked silly in game 3 I had a feeling London would pull it out and now expect them to drop KW in game 5 on Friday.

Did Ottawa win tonight?

The Rangers gave it everything they had tonight, and I don't know if they'll have anything left to give on Friday night. The OT goal has to have taken the wind completely out of their sails.

There weren't as many penalties called tonight, but the game was in danger of getting out of control early on with non-calls. Overall, both teams played a lot cleaner than they have done though - a much better game to watch, although I'd have liked a different ending!

The Rangers gave it everything they had tonight, and I don't know if they'll have anything left to give on Friday night. The OT goal has to have taken the wind completely out of their sails.

There weren't as many penalties called tonight, but the game was in danger of getting out of control early on with non-calls. Overall, both teams played a lot cleaner than they have done though - a much better game to watch, although I'd have liked a different ending!

Tough loss for Kitchener. They played clean, hard (harder then London, it seemed), but just lost out due to London having so many horses.

I don't see them coming back now, with 2 games in London, but there is a good young team in Kitchener which *didn't* mortgage their future for this year.

Tom

Pretty good game tonight. The crowd was really into it. It was my first time at the Aud and I understand now how it feels like the crowd is on top of the ice. I was in the standing room at ice level. How Danny Syvret played I don't know. I watched him pretty much the whole pre-game skate and he turned his neck once. He participated in the shooting only once. He had these two small pieces of white something on his neck, I'm not sure what it was. I thought for sure he wouldn't play and that maybe he was just testing it out but he played. At times I think it would had been better to have Ferry out instead of him because he was weak. And why he was on the ice instead of Girardi for the final minute is beyond me. He must not have been as bad as he looked or they wouldn't have let him play. He didn't show emotion at all during the game, is face looked the exact same throughout. One stupid fan kept yelling stuff about him like where is your neckbrace and I hope to see you face on the ground again and hospital stuff which I thought was a little much.

While I agree that the comment was tasteless and completely inappropriate, I'd bet it had more to do with the suspensions handed down than a shot at Syvret.

While I agree that the comment was tasteless and completely inappropriate, I'd bet it had more to do with the suspensions handed down than a shot at Syvret.

You're grasping Charlie_Girl ;)

That being said, it's not hard to find classless fans at any arena.

Tom

You're grasping Charlie_Girl ;)

That being said, it's not hard to find classless fans at any arena.

Tom


Yeah they are everywhere.

One play that I think really hurt the Rangers was when Pepe made that horrible play on Thomson which ended up being a goal. That imo killed the Rangers even though they ended up evening the score before the game ended. Before Pepe made that bad play I thought the Rangers were playing really well and were gonna win this game. Something about a guy like Thomson setting up a play or scoring a goal that generally takes the sail out of the opposition.

I liked the game but thought the guys were really scared to make it a real physical contest b/c of penalties. Too bad.

Go Knights Go!

11 down, 5 to go...

2-0 knights half way in the 2nd period...for what it's worth.

5-0, 67's here we come!!

Kitchener gave it everything they had.... London is just too strong and has too much depth.

Congratulations to the Knights and their fans! You've had an incredible season - good luck against Ottawa!

I had box seats for the first time ever and it was amazing !!!!!! I taped the last 10 minutes on videocamcorder and after the game went down Richmond blowing my huge horn!!! Anyone hear a very loud HORN (not car horn, the long plastic ones)

Wooooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

When does the next series start ????????

Anyone noticed how well A. Perry and Foreman played tonight? They'll be important on this team next year for sure.

And how about Robbie Schremp these days??? He's scoring timely goals, making body checks for the first time i've ever seen and making some good defensive plays huring to backcheck. I think he learned his lesson last year against Guelph. Hope he keeps it up!!!!!

Kitchener gave it everything they had.... London is just too strong and has too much depth.

Congratulations to the Knights and their fans! You've had an incredible season - good luck against Ottawa!

Thanks CG49!! I had said at the beginning of this series, that the Rangers don't have 4 Mike Richards' to shut down all 4 lines, good effort though, even took a game off us!

Off to the finals! 40 years in the making...

4 more wins, Green & Gold!

Go Knights Go!

What do you think was the turning point of the series? Anyone care to answer?

I'm going w/ when the Knights killed the 5 on 3 in the first minute of game 3 after I believe Schremp got a penalty and Perry for illegal curve. Dennis made some great saves to keep it 0-0 then London stormed out and scored 3 goals in the next 10 minutes if i'm not mistaken.

I also think Adam Perry's goal in game 4 from Robbie Schremp :27 after the Rangers made it 2-0 was a huge goal that helped bring them back to tie and eventually win the game and put a stranglehold on the series.

Kitchener's going to have a great set of defenceman next year w/ Lashoff, Kindl, Valabik and others all coming back I think except Benoit.

What do you think was the turning point of the series? Anyone care to answer?

I'm going w/ when the Knights killed the 5 on 3 in the first minute of game 3 after I believe Schremp got a penalty and Perry for illegal curve. Dennis made some great saves to keep it 0-0 then London stormed out and scored 3 goals in the next 10 minutes if i'm not mistaken.

I also think Adam Perry's goal in game 4 from Robbie Schremp :27 after the Rangers made it 2-0 was a huge goal that helped bring them back to tie and eventually win the game and put a stranglehold on the series.

Kitchener's going to have a great set of defenceman next year w/ Lashoff, Kindl, Valabik and others all coming back I think except Benoit.

Either that or the OT win. The OT win may not have been the turning point as it was 2-1 London already, but it sure removed any life Kitchener had left.

Tom

Either that or the OT win. The OT win may not have been the turning point as it was 2-1 London already, but it sure removed any life Kitchener had left.

Tom
I think the OT win was the turning point.... if Kitchener wins that game, the series is tied 2-2 and it's a brand new series. Kitchener battled back to tie that game, and if they had won in OT, they'd have had a lot of momentum going into game 5. After London scored in OT, they were in a big hole against the best regular season team in the CHL - it was too steep a hill.

Good points, but I feel that the 6-1 slacking London put on KW in game 3 had a huge impact on game 4. If London won 6-5 or 2-1 in game 3, I think KW would have been more confident in game 4 and ultimately won that game.

Either or are good choices though.