Help Minnesota get a PP QB!

Minnesota is seriously lacking a solid PP QB. Kuba, Schultz, Heid, Michalek, Roche, and Zyuzin all could TURN out to be a PP QB but I have doubts that they will since they weren't really groomed that way in the Wild system or else where or failed miserably from the pressure in Zyuzin's case.

I want a legit, solid PP QB, defense can be taught too by Lemaire.

Make an offer.

Minnesota is seriously lacking a solid PP QB. Kuba, Schultz, Heid, Michalek, Roche, and Zyuzin all could TURN out to be a PP QB but I have doubts that they will since they weren't really groomed that way in the Wild system or else where or failed miserably from the pressure in Zyuzin's case.

I want a legit, solid PP QB, defense can be taught too by Lemaire.

Make an offer.
Would either Mironov or Malakhov interest you. :rolly:
Salary paid in full of course.

Ummm...Maybe...I don't know much except that Mironov has been described as Krispy Kreme Doughboy.

Y don't u guys just sign Ronning again?

Pierre. Marc. Bouchard.

Derek Morris and three first round picks for Marian Gaborik. :D

PM Bouchard is an interesting scenario but they haven't been utilizing him in the preseason on the PP very much. I have heard also arguments that he wouldn't make a solid PP QB, I forget why, I think partly because of his shiftness and the lack of a solid release when shooting the puck. I think he can lead and could PP QB, but I would like to get a blueliner in there to have Bouchard help cause havok up front without having to lead the PP.

And no! NO GABORIK FOR YOU!

I have the perfect solution: Patrice Brisebois

What? You said PP QB... That's pretty much what he is. Hey BTW he bulked up this summer and started delivering some hits at camp. See? He's the best thing for your team. We won't even ask too much in return because we like the Wild so much... How could you turn that down?
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And no! NO GABORIK FOR YOU!

:D How about a semi-mirror Lindros deal??

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Milan Hejduk
Derek Morris

Riku Hahl
Cody McCormick
Philippe Sauve
1st/COL/04
1st/COL/05
$15,000,000

Or:

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Alex Tanguay
Derek Morris
Mikhail Kuleshov
2nd/FLA/04

:D

Naaaa, I don't think a trade would ever go down between Colorado and Minnesota that large of a scale simply because they hate each other.

Briesbois might actually work, if he was younger and if he didn't have a large contracgt.

So you want cheap, young, and effective PP QB?

Brent Sopel ;) He has some shakey defense, but you said Lemaire could whip him into shape.

The teams hate each other though, so I doubt a deal would go through. For kicks though, what would Minny offer for The Golden Brent?

Naaaa, I don't think a trade would ever go down between Colorado and Minnesota that large of a scale simply because they hate each other.

Briesbois might actually work, if he was younger and if he didn't have a large contracgt.

Well we could eat part of his salary. And I'm pretty sure he's young at heart... :D

What does Vancouver want for Brett? I hear one minute he's a top defensemen, the next Vancouver wants to ship him out.

I know Vanny needs second line help and the only thing I can see going is Laaksonen and Veilleux going over to help but that's doubtful.

And Brisebois would get creamed by Lemaire.

Brisebois would get creamed by Lemaire.

Oh... Well... Ok then... I guess it wasn't meant to be... http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/angelsad.gif

I think Nick Schultz can be the PP qb, you have to give him the ice time and watch him develop. He has a very high skill level.

Columbus has three D (Sydor, Spacek, Klesla) that can play the point (with Johnson waiting in the wings for a few years), along with Cassels. A case could be made for Walser, but he hasn't had the chance at the pro level yet. Out of those five players, only Spacek or Walser would be leaving anytime soon, and that's probably not going to happen with Spacek unless it's a very good deal. Walser has learned how to play D according to those that have seen him in camp, he'll learn more under Lemaire no doubt. A mid-level (4th) pick or low level prospect would suffice.

I think Nick Schultz can be the PP qb, you have to give him the ice time and watch him develop. He has a very high skill level.
I agree. The Wild have a solid PP QB he's just not developed yet. Schultz is only 21 with light years of potential ahead of him. Schultz, Kuba and Zyuzin can be a productive goup of d-men.

I agree that Schultz could develop into a solid pp quarterback, but if you want one right now there is always Tverdovsky out there. And if you're really despereate there is also Berard.

Alexander Khavanov & Brent Johnson

for

Manny Fernandez & 4th Round Pick

Question, why do we need Brent Johnson?

Oh yeah and Berard, I forgot about him. We should pick him up but probably won't.

Tarnstrom for Schultz?


Maybe Rozsival for Schultz :dunno:

Question, why do we need Brent Johnson?

Question, why don't you just respond to the proposal? Sorry if I'm not up to date with the Wild goaltending depth and what they would have available to take over as the backup if Fernandez is moved. :rolleyes:

We should just pick up Berard :)

Mathieu Schneider....what are you offering? :dunno:

Sorry degroats...

We picked up Holmqvist and have the same problem as the Blues because now we have Roloson, Fernandez, and Holmqvist. Johnson would kind of be redundent.

And no I don't think Schultz is going to be moved.

What does Vancouver want for Brett? I hear one minute he's a top defensemen, the next Vancouver wants to ship him out.

I know Vanny needs second line help and the only thing I can see going is Laaksonen and Veilleux going over to help but that's doubtful.

And Brisebois would get creamed by Lemaire.

If Zholtok plays RW, then by all means, Sopel for Zholtok :).

:D How about a semi-mirror Lindros deal??

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Milan Hejduk
Derek Morris

Riku Hahl
Cody McCormick
Philippe Sauve
1st/COL/04
1st/COL/05
$15,000,000

Or:

To Colorado:
Marian Gaborik

To Minnesota:
Alex Tanguay
Derek Morris
Mikhail Kuleshov
2nd/FLA/04

:D

Holy overpay for Gaborik batman!

I might be wrong, but with Tverdovsky and Berard unsigned, I don't see why teams would trade a PP QB, as the other GM could use the «2 are available without giving anything» argument to sweeten the deal in his favor..

Oleg Tverdovski : Two season of 50PTS with Anaheim in 99-00 , 00-01

Bryan Berard : 10G 38A 48PTS last year

I thought Oleg was going to play in Russia this year?

And uh okay...Zholtok can play almost anywhere on the ice except defense and goalie. But fair warning, the guy is old and could drop off faster then a hooker's skirt.

Tarnstrom for Schultz?


Maybe Rozsival for Schultz :dunno:
Schultz is one of the cornerstones of the Wild, why the hell would the Wild take mediocre guys in their late 20's for Schultz?

What about Pavel Kubina?

With Boyle being their number 1 guy on the PP, the Lightening probably would consider a trade. I don't know what they're looking for though. I can see the Wild being a little turned off by Kubina's salary ($2.5 M). Others have mentioned Berard as a potential solution, who I think fits the bill rather nicely as well.

Kubina might be interesting...He's young and he looks pretty good. Lemaire can shape him well but what is the Lightning looking for?

Tom Poti and Garth Murray
for
Willie Mitchell and Pascal Dupuis

Tom Poti and Garth Murray
for
Willie Mitchell and Pascal Dupuis

Deal looks fair since they have yet to sign Dupuis and might not anytime soon. But would Poti work as he barely knows what D is?

Mitchell won't be moved and Minnesota doesn't need anymore centers or forwards.

Mitchell won't be moved and Minnesota doesn't need anymore centers or forwards.

Hey, gotta give to get. Poti would be a great addition to the Wild pp and Murray, I think would be a great player for a Lemaire team. And you guys move a player who the team is struggling to sign. Seems more than fair to me.

housley's still available, but i dont know how he'd fit in minny.

Not really Singing, we lose two guys that are important to our future and I'm not sold on Poti.

Mitchell has yet to really hit his upside and is one of the most physical defensemen on the Wild. He has top-4 capability easily and him and Schultz makes a great pair.

Murray is kind of redundant for the Wild when they have O'Sullivan, Wallin, Bouchard, Koivu, Cavanaugh, Berzins, Cavosie, and Cullen positioning for the center and then:

Gaborik, Burns, Wanvig, Foy, Veilleux, Hannula, Wallin (he can play both wing position), Dupuis as our wingers.

Murray wouldn't get any chance to go anywhere and Dupuis has more postseason experience, and better chemistry with the guys.

Simply putting it, I don't Mitchell and Dupuis for Murray and Poti makes a lot of sense except that Minnesota gets robbed a bit.

Not really Singing, we lose two guys that are important to our future and I'm not sold on Poti.

Mitchell has yet to really hit his upside and is one of the most physical defensemen on the Wild. He has top-4 capability easily and him and Schultz makes a great pair.

Murray is kind of redundant for the Wild when they have O'Sullivan, Wallin, Bouchard, Koivu, Cavanaugh, Berzins, Cavosie, and Cullen positioning for the center and then:

Gaborik, Burns, Wanvig, Foy, Veilleux, Hannula, Wallin (he can play both wing position), Dupuis as our wingers.

Murray wouldn't get any chance to go anywhere and Dupuis has more postseason experience, and better chemistry with the guys.

Simply putting it, I don't Mitchell and Dupuis for Murray and Poti makes a lot of sense except that Minnesota gets robbed a bit.


That's one way of looking at it.

In Poti and Mitchell both teams swap young defenseman that provide something that both teams are lacking: the Rangers get a hard hitting, crease clearing stay at home defenseman and the Wild get a puck moving point producing defenseman who can spearhead the Wild's power play. Murray is well regarded character player who I think fits in well with the system that the Wild play. Dupuis is a holdout who I think would fit well on the Rangers third line with Holik and Lundmark.

You might not like the deal and that's cool but the Wild hardly get robbed.

Poti>Mitchell
Murray<Dupuis

I think of it more like this:

Mitchell=Poti

Poti can't play defense but he can move the puck around. Mitchell can't move the puck around but can play very solid defense and can fight...if provoked...like a stick in your teammate's throat.

But I wouldn't do that simply because Mitchell defines Minnesota's defense.

I think of it more like this:

Mitchell=Poti

Poti can't play defense but he can move the puck around. Mitchell can't move the puck around but can play very solid defense and can fight...if provoked...like a stick in your teammate's throat.

But I wouldn't do that simply because Mitchell defines Minnesota's defense.


Poti might not play defense but the rest of the team does. Mitchels can't move the puck but the rest of the team does.

Hey, you don't like the deal, you don't like the deal.

Would this work(probobly giving one team or the other a deal)

To Minnesota
-Derrick Walser

To Columbus
-Zbynek Michalek

Just sign someone, like Berard or Housley. Tverdovsky is no longer in the question as it is probably past the deadline for signing players that have signed in Europe.

I don't know. I love Zbenyk and he can move the puck but by no means is an offensive weapon. I would be torn with that trade because I think Michalek has a huge upside that remains largely untapped.

Sorry but I'm looking for a forward for defensemen trade mainly.

ALSO

Berard might be an option if the Wild don't get outbid. A lot of teams have their eyes on him. Housley needs to retire and NOW.

[QUOTE=thestonedkoala]I don't know. I love Zbenyk and he can move the puck but by no means is an offensive weapon. I would be torn with that trade because I think Michalek has a huge upside that remains largely untapped.

Sorry but I'm looking for a forward for defensemen trade mainly.

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Who would be available? Berzins? Irmen? Hannula?

Two out of the three, Hannula and Berzins...

You could take a gamble on Buffalo's youngster Dmitri Kalinin, I think he will show up as a great D-man with offensive production really soon. Also if Zidlicky outperforms Timonen in Nashville Timonen might be up for grabs.

Looks like we got Roche, so the PP QB position is filled, at least for now.

otherwise trade a low pick for Atlanta for last season's leading scorer in the swiss league (first defenseman to win it), Petteri Nummelin.

PP QB? strictly a PP QB?

TO MINNESOTA:

Martin Skoula, Brian Willsie, 2nd rounder

TO COLORADO:

Pascal Dupuis, Jason Marshall/Brad Brown

PP QB? strictly a PP QB?

TO MINNESOTA:

Martin Skoula, Brian Willsie, 2nd rounder

TO COLORADO:

Pascal Dupuis, Jason Marshall/Brad Brown
Skoula got too much puck poise, Lemaire doesnt like that.
BTW, I would accept that deal.

Brent Sopel + pick/prospect for Pascal Dupuis? :dunno:

I don't want to move Soaps, but Dupuis is an interesting player and would certainly help out with the offense. Don't know where he'd fit though...