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Wildcat 09-28-2003, 05:19 PM I made a list of injury prone players that I will be adding to my pool draft list so I thought I’d post it to get some opinions on who could go on the list or who should be taken off. These aren’t necessarily players that should be avoided (even though I have them marked with a skull and cross-bones on my pool list :D ) but rather should be taken with caution. Keith Tkachuk is a good example as he’s only played more than 70 games twice in the past 6 seasons but is a PPG player, or close to it. He gets his points...
The following is what I have so far. Feel free to add or subtract from the list.
SKATERS
ANA: Rucchin, Leclerc, R. Niedermayer
ATL: Savard, Stefan
BOS: Lapointe, Sergei Samsonov?, Joe Thornton?
BUF: Warrener, Afinogenov?
CGY:
CAR: D. Markov
CHI: Daze, Kapovtsev
COL: Blake, Foote, Morris?, Paul Kariya?
CBJ:
DAL: Arnott, Turgeon, Boucher
DET: Yzerman, Devereaux, Wallin, McCarty
EDM: Smyth, Isbister, Laraque?
FLA: V. Bure
LA: Palffy, Allison, Deadmarsh, Miller, Belanger
MIN: Hendrickson, Bombardir, Marshall, Dowd
MTL: Koivu, Audette, Souray
NSH: Legwand, Walker
NJ: Adrian Foster :rolly:
NYI: Niinimaa, Peca?
NYR: Lindros, P. Bure, Malakhov, Leetch?
OTT: Schastlivy
PHI: Leclair, Williams, Roenick
PHO: Savage
PIT: Abid, Rozsival, Melichar, Lemieux?
STL: Weight, Tkachuk
SJ: S. Thornton, McLaren
TB:
TOR: Antropov, Nolan, Roberts, Nieuwendyk, Mogilny?
VAN: Ohlund, Linden, Salo, Chubarov, Lindgren
WSH: Zubrus, Josh Green
GOALTENDERS
ATL: Dafoe
BOS: Potvin
MIN: Fernandez
PHI: Hackett
PHO: Burke
STL: Brathwaite
VAN: Cloutier
Should they be on the list
BOS: Sergei Samsonov, Joe Thornton
BUF: Afinogenov
COL: Morris, Paul Kariya
EDM: Laraque
MIN: Dowd
NYI: Peca
NYR: Leetch
PIT: Lemieux
TOR: Mogilny
Theoren Fan 09-28-2003, 05:23 PM Should add NYR: Brian Leetch to that list
gruntsplatter 09-28-2003, 05:24 PM Shawn Burke...?
JayzinSmith 09-28-2003, 05:26 PM Alexander Karpovtsev
- missed 80+ games over last 3 seasons
Sheldon Souray
- missed 150+ games over last 3 seasons, including all of 2002-03
Sean Burke
temporary pencil 09-28-2003, 05:32 PM I don't think Lemieux is really injury prone... he just has health problems that keep coming back and making him miss a lot of games.
On the Avalanche, replace Derek Morris with Adam Foote.
thestonedkoala 09-28-2003, 05:45 PM On MIN: Replace Brunette with China Doll I mean Darby Hendrickson, Brad Bombardir, Jason Marshall, and Jim Dowd...
temporary pencil 09-28-2003, 05:55 PM China Doll I mean Darby Hendrickson
:dunno: :lol: :rant:
JasonMacIsaac 09-28-2003, 05:58 PM That list isn't any bit correct until the name Adrian Foster makes it.
Mike8 09-28-2003, 06:11 PM That list isn't any bit correct until the name Adrian Foster makes it.
Except this is an NHLers' pool draft, I'm assuming. :D
JasonMacIsaac 09-28-2003, 06:36 PM Someone may take Foster...................................
Bruzin 09-28-2003, 06:50 PM Girard is not injury prone. However, he may be after his recovery from that car accident. Until we know how he recovers, I wouldn't say he is injury prone.
Kyle McLaren is injury prone.
Jeff Hackett is injury prone.
Byron Dafoe is injury prone.
I also think that PJ Stock is injury prone. His style of play, and his size are an injury waiting to happen.
Dr GLU 09-28-2003, 07:06 PM Turgeon definitely needs to be on that list.
garry1221 09-28-2003, 07:09 PM boyd devereaux, jesse wallin
easton122 09-28-2003, 07:12 PM I would consider Justin Williams, Simon Gagne, Jeff Hackett, Felix Potvin, Peter Forsberg, Owen Nolan, Nikolai Antropov, Manny Fernandez, Dan Cloutier, Ed Jovanovski, Mike Comrie, Brad Stuart, Maxim Afinoganov, and Rhett Warrener injury prone also.
Evilo 09-28-2003, 07:35 PM Mario is not "multiple" injury prone. He's ONE injury prone, the same injury that keeps on coming. So I can understand he's on that list, but..
Straka. No. Urban legend.
Morozov. No. He missed some time last year but before that it was OK.
For the Pens, should be on the list : Rozsival.
Sergei Zubov 09-28-2003, 07:36 PM NSH: Scott Walker...
Narnia 09-28-2003, 08:14 PM I would consider Justin Williams, Simon Gagne, Jeff Hackett, Felix Potvin, Peter Forsberg, Owen Nolan, Nikolai Antropov, Manny Fernandez, Dan Cloutier, Ed Jovanovski, Mike Comrie, Brad Stuart, Maxim Afinoganov, and Rhett Warrener injury prone also.
Mike Comrie has had one injury in his entire career and suddenly he's injury prone.
Where is Mattias Ohlund, Trevor Linden, Janne Niinimaa. They're injury prone.
Waveburner 09-28-2003, 08:34 PM Canucks:
Mattias Ohlund
Sami Salo
Trevor Linden (recent years)
Artem Chubarov
Dan Cloutier
EDIT-Mats Lindgren(prolly the most injury prone, but if he gets taken in a hockey pool, faceoff win % better count somehow, otherwise...)
The Boot 09-28-2003, 10:25 PM Add Ramzi Abid to that list, i don't remember the last time he played a full year, i like the guy but the stats say it all, has never played 70 games in a season.
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM
1996-97 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 65 13 24 37 151
1997-98 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 68 50 85 135 266
1998-99 Chicoutimi Sagueneens QMJHL 21 11 15 26 97
1998-99 Acadie-Bathurst Titan QMJHL 24 14 22 36 102
1999-00 Acadie-Bathurst Titan QMJHL 13 10 11 21 61
1999-00 Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL 59 57 80 137 148
2000-01 Springfield Falcons AHL 17 6 4 10 38
2001-02 Springfield Falcons AHL 66 18 25 43 214
2002-03 Springfield Falcons AHL 27 15 10 25 50
2002-03 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 30 10 8 18 30
2002-03 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 3 0 0 0 2
Edler Statesman* 09-29-2003, 09:41 AM VAN - Mats Lindgren
VAN - Dan Cloutier
Don'tcry4mejanhrdina 09-29-2003, 10:17 AM Yeah, Ramzi Abid is injury prone. :(
Ajacied 09-29-2003, 10:27 AM Phillipe Boucher, if he wasn't so unlucky with injuries right after he got drafted he would have gotten a lot more respect these days.
Turgeon is also pretty prone, Arnott is also sensitive for the minor ones..
Wildcat 09-29-2003, 10:53 AM Updated*
Players under the suggested category I'm not so sure about adding or removing from the list.
Lemieux has been left on since he will miss games but he'll exceed a PPG anyway so it almost doesn't matter. If there's more votes to take him off I will though.
Lam7825 09-29-2003, 04:16 PM gotta keep Jumbo Joe Thornton away from those bacteria-filled elbow pads!
don't know if you can consider staph infection an "injury" or not....but it did put him in the hospital last year.
also, add Samsonov please.
and Berard- permanently injured list w/that right eye.
and do you count Jeremy Roenick's glass jaw?
Narnia 09-29-2003, 04:46 PM Josh Green, Paul Kariya, Felix Potvin, Curtis Joseph, Michael Peca, Steve Ruchin, Fred Brathwaite, Doug Weight, Keith Tkchuk, Jeremy Roenick, John Leclair, Jeff Hackett, Georges Laraque, Eric Lindros, Steve Yzerman
PigPen 09-29-2003, 04:47 PM Darren McCarty, Floyd Devereaux and Yzerman for the wings. Though Yzerman's injury the past 3 years has been the same one; knee with no cartiledge in it.
I wouldn't say Comrie, Gagne or Peca are injury prone. Those guys haven't missed a ton of games in their careers. Peca missed a year because he held out. He only missed 13 games this season after coming back from knee reconstruction, which was the first major injury of his career.
Comrie missed a handful of games because of a broken thumb, nothing else.
Simon Gagne missed games this year though I can't remember why. He should be 110% better now, and unless he has a freak accident on the ice he won't miss many if any games this year. He's another to take off.
Morozov had his first major injury ever last season, but should be just fine now.
Alex Mogilny isn't really injury prone. There were a few games where he was just sat out or given the day off to spend time with his family by Quinn.
Don't assume a player is injury prone because they missed a portion of one season.
I think the criteria for this category should be a player who has missed 20+ games a year DUE TO INJURY on numerous occasions. Not missing a game or two every month because of a sore back or the flu.
Jeff Goldblum 09-29-2003, 05:29 PM Melichar is definitely injury prone. He's a veteran on this team, yet hasn't played more than 100 games in his 3 year NHL career.
DJ Spinoza 09-29-2003, 05:36 PM Straka is not injury prone. He is just really unlucky (if you look at how he gets injured you'll see). Two years ago, he broke his orbital bone because Hedberg accidentally hit him in the face after clearing the puck. Last year, a freaking weight machine fell on him in the offseason and he injured his back (might have died if Kraft wasn't training with him).
Evilo 09-29-2003, 08:46 PM Melichar is definitely injury prone. He's a veteran on this team, yet hasn't played more than 100 games in his 3 year NHL career.
I would agree, but you have to remember Melichar's injury is always the same : his shoulder. He didn't have like 5 injuries. His shoulder is the problem.
Wildcat 09-30-2003, 11:29 AM Thanks for the update and injury background guys. Unfortunately I don’t have every players background so I’ve really only been looking at numbers from past seasons which already proven can be inaccurate.
Evilo 09-30-2003, 10:17 PM OK, is Heatley injury prone because he has a car accident?
Well same with Straka. He has an accident.
Poignant Discussion 10-01-2003, 02:47 AM OK, is Heatley injury prone because he has a car accident?
Well same with Straka. He has an accident.
Reading this thread is only making me dumber. Straka NOT injury prone? lol
Thats all
swflyers8* 10-01-2003, 03:06 AM Roenick ---Not injury prone, he plays through injuries
Leclair ---He is and forever will be injury proned
Justin Williams--Not injury prone. He had one injury that was a major one.
Gagne--Has been injury prone but hopefully not after the recent surgery
he had.
Hackett --Yep, but praying that he's not this year.
My last pick:
The entire roster of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Evilo 10-01-2003, 06:08 AM Reading this thread is only making me dumber. Straka NOT injury prone? lol
Thats all
Yep.
He was a guy who could be counted on for at the very least 70 games a year before his accidents.
The thing is he had three rare ones in a year.
BruinsGirl 10-01-2003, 06:29 AM gotta keep Jumbo Joe Thornton away from those bacteria-filled elbow pads!
don't know if you can consider staph infection an "injury" or not....but it did put him in the hospital last year.
also, add Samsonov please.
and Berard- permanently injured list w/that right eye.
and do you count Jeremy Roenick's glass jaw?
Samsonov is not injury prone...He needed surgery to fix something that was not properly taken care of 10 years ago ....and then it was rehab period.
In each of his previous season he played 70+ games, right?
Vincent Vega 10-01-2003, 06:55 AM Steve Yzerman isnt injury prone. Its just his ****ing knee...thats the only reason that he can play like 60 games a year.
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