Stuart Separates Shoulder!!!

FRICK!

http://www.sjsharks.com/sharks/news/20030929-1064871859.htm

According to the article, Ehrhoff or Preissing will likely suit up come Game 1.

FRICK!

http://www.sjsharks.com/sharks/news/20030929-1064871859.htm

According to the article, Ehrhoff or Preissing will likely suit up come Game 1.

And Yuri Moscevsky has been reassigned to Cleveland.

beat me to it... Parker is going to be busy just taking care of guys that hurt Stuart :)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo

GOD DANGIT !!!!!

beat me to it... Parker is going to be busy just taking care of guys that hurt Stuart :)
Yeah, now the Parker acquisition makes more and more sense. Shelley and Cooke better be afraid!

God this pisses me off. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

lol.

Ehrhoff in lineup on day one = 100%

Ehrhoff,Davison,Fahey,McClaren,Rathje,Hannan

aint a bad top 6 still.

Yeah, now the Parker acquisition makes more and more sense. Shelley and Cooke better be afraid!

I'm rather dissappointed now that I won't be able to make the rematch on Thursday.

BTW, does anyone on the board live in SJ want my tickets to this thursday's game (10/2)? I'll be leaving town tomorrow for 2 weeks, and nobody in my family can make it. PM me if you're interested.

Does anyone know if it was a dirty hit? If it wasn't, I doubt there will be any retribution. Cooke won't drop'em against Parker anyways, it would be a Canuck enforcer, whoever that is.

Well, now Ehrhoff or Preissing will certainly be in the line-up. The "loser" might still go to Cleveland for ice-time while a guy like Carkner or Fibiger would be recalled as the sixth defenseman. Losing Stuart, yeah, you probably want Davison over Preissing in the line-up for physical reasons. Stuart was/is arguably San Jose's best hitter. (Hopefully McLaren regains Boston form.) Davison and Carkner definitely have physicality. Fibiger isn't THAT physical. He's more like Rathje really. Fibiger is a good skater with some size though and better stick skills than Davison or Carkner. With Ehrhoff and Preissing in the fold, Fibiger won't see any time unless there are massive injuries.

At this point, I'm betting Ehrhoff is the number five on opening night with Davison sixth and Carkner 7th.

Also, it's good to see the Ehrhoff lobby in full force at the Sharks site :) (I voted for Ehrhoff of course)

The fact this poll exists at this point really vindicates what I've said since Preissing was signed. Nobody disagreed that I can remember. We're on top of things! (And I do mean that as a plural for many of us regular posters here at the Sharks board.)

Also, it's good to see the Ehrhoff lobby in full force at the Sharks site :) (I voted for Ehrhoff of course)

The fact this poll exists at this point really vindicates what I've said since Preissing was signed. Nobody disagreed that I can remember. We're on top of things! (And I do mean that as a plural for many of us regular posters here at the Sharks board.)

I know it's really not fair to use icetime in a game where Stuart was injured and didn't play much, but Ehrhoff skated more than 22 minutes last night... and that's on the 2nd half of a back-to-back...

For the record, Davison was at 17, Hannan at 26+, Fahey at 23, Rat at 24 and Stuart at 8.

damn that sucks bad! i'm still waiting to see stuart play for my keeper squad (traded blake for stuey etc. a while ago) oh well, hopefully he's ready to go in 3-4 weeks (fingers crossed)

Does anyone know if it was a dirty hit? If it wasn't, I doubt there will be any retribution. Cooke won't drop'em against Parker anyways, it would be a Canuck enforcer, whoever that is.
I read in the summary articles that Cooke ran Stuart's face first into the boards. Don't know if a penalty was called or if it was missed

I read in the summary articles that Cooke ran Stuart's face first into the boards. Don't know if a penalty was called or if it was missed

A penalty was *NOT* called on the play.

This is so unfortunate. It pains me to say it, but this could be a real blow, even before the season starts. A seperated shoulder is a seperated should...no such thing as slight in my book, or a doctor's for that matter.

I can only hope, that Doug and Ron, rest Stuart early. Let 2 weeks of reg season go by or when he's ready carry 7-dem and limit stuart's icetime.

An injury like this will nag all season if it's not 100% prior to returning.

A seperated shoulder is a seperated should...no such thing as slight in my book, or a doctor's for that matter.
I can only confirm that from my own experience. :mad:

the two worst injuries in sports are ankles and shoulders. The way our bodies are constructed they just don't really ever heal completely. Its also the nature of the joint itself.
Knees, Hips, Elbows can all be replaced. Ankles get fused, shoulders shorten careers and ruin golf games.
Lets hope it isn't serious.

I can only confirm that from my own experience. :mad:

aye, same here...even 15 years later, it still means I don't have full rotation in my right shoulder.

***crosses-fingers***

Time to trade Stuey? I mean I realize he's a stud and all, but what good is he if he's going to be hurt constantly? Sounds like a re-occuring theme, multiple concussions, now shoulder issues? Didn't he have some ankle problems also? The concussions are scary, the shoulder/ankle issues are naggers, and easily re-injured. I'd say if the Sharks can get a nice package deal from someone take it and run....

I wonder if this is the shoulder Stuart injured weighttraining a few seasons back.

Before San Jose considers training Stuart, the play of Kyle McLaren and the progress of Rob Davison and Doug Murray becomes important, especially Murray. As I said after the Frozen Four last year, it was apparent that Murray wasn't truly challenged in college and was able to coast a bit because of his supreme physical ability, regarding checking and throwing people into the boards. He didn't have to move fast, or keep moving fast hardly at all. That just doesn't happen in the AHL or NHL. If Rob Davison can pull it together, so can Murray. Murray is the one defenseman who could truly replace Stuart's physicality. Davison sort of, but...I don't see Davison laying out many open ice hits. Murray isn't Darius Kasparaitis either, but he seems to have more of a knack for it when he wants to than say Davison or Carkner. (I don't see Carkner as a long-term NHL defenseman)

The offense that Stuart has is easily countered by Fahey, Ehrhoff and Preissing. Plus, Murray has some offensive upside. All of San Jose's NHL defenseman have some offense to them. Davison may actually be a 15-20 point guy himself! (Who saw that coming? Not me)

And then, long-term, Matt Carle and Dan Spang figure into things prominantly. Also, if Tero Maatta continues to improve and gain confidence, he becomes part of the fold that could make somebody like Stuart, overall, expendable.

So, if McLaren plays well and Murray pulls it together, then yes, San Jose could trade Stuart. But, for the reasons San Jose might trade him, he wouldn't fetch that much now either. Yeah, maybe the Rangers would take him as is. I suppose Calgary would too, considering who their coach and GM is. A healthy Stuart gains interest from all NHL teams, but now...well, there'd be interest, but the return. If Calgary blows, maybe Stuart fetches their first round pick in 2004. (I can't see Calgary sucking this year. I doubt they'll make the play-offs, but they won't suck. They have a good blueline though. Not awesome, but good.)

Maybe Stuart, somebody else, and the Sharks' first round gets dangled for Ovechkin. (1st pick overall...it's insane how good Ovechkin already is.) If all else fails, Viktor Alexandrov looks interesting. (I think he's a 2004, not an '05) I would like to see Alexandrov get his citizenship in order though. (Kazakh-born who played for Kazakhstan when he was 15, but then decided he wanted to play for Russia. Well, soon after he moved his dad died in a car accident.)

If all else fails, Viktor Alexandrov looks interesting. (I think he's a 2004, not an '05) I would like to see Alexandrov get his citizenship in order though. (Kazakh-born who played for Kazakhstan when he was 15, but then decided he wanted to play for Russia. Well, soon after he moved his dad died in a car accident.)

Have you seen Malkin play? You said you wanted a goal-scorer, and he's definately it. He should probably go 2nd-4th Overall in '04, though. If SJ goes for it this year (I see no reason they shouldn't), it'll be hard for them to fall that low.

Ahhh...Malkin, Marleau, and Michalek on a line. DROOL.

~Crazed.