Atlant edm proposal.

Well with The horrific car accident that happen yesterday I could see a deal between Atlanta and Edm for comrie becoming more of a reality.

How about this:


Stefan and Safronov to Edm

Comrie and Staois to Atlanta.

Edmonton get a center who might become a scoring center or at worse a reliable 3rd line center and a Defensive propspect.

Atlanta get a a 60+ point scoring center who is only 23 years old and a veteran D-man who they know, he was their captain 3 seasons ago. I understand they may have let them go, but given the choice again i doubt they would have done the same thing again.

Seems okay from an oiler standpoint but would it owrk for Atlanta?

I don't like it from an Oilers' POV. Comrie is worth more than Stefan, and Staios was the Oilers' best d-man last year. He's not exactly a big name, but there's no reason to think he won't be as good again this year. Safronov isn't bad, but he's not exactly a top prospect. I think Comrie alone should be good enough to pull this one off.

Take Staios out and maybe the Oil think about it. Comrie is a very

takented young man and already has more value than Stefan and

Safronov combined, let alone with Staios in the deal.

*slaps Chayos1* What r u doing our top 4 is weak enough and their is no guarantee that Safronov can be a 3rd pairing d-man let alone top 4 at the moment. Staios is under-rated presently we need to keep him and up his value and as seachd said he was our best defenseman last year, throw Cross in instead he brings veteran leadership and has put in positive plus minus the last 4 years and that still might be overpaying Safronov is unproven and Stefan although good is a semi-quasi-bust compared to expectations.

I don't like this deal for the Oilers.

Keep Staios out of it. The Oilers need to strengthen their defence and this deal would weaken it. I do think that Safronov has potential so lets trade a forward prospect ...... Salmelainen????

Comrie - Salmelainen

for

Stefan - Safronov.

I think it would definetely have to be STefan and Exelby for Comrie. If they won't go with that and they are being TOTALLY STUBBORN, then make it Safronov and Stefan for Comrie. Nothing else coming from Edmonton.

The Thrashers have plenty of tough gritty defenseman with little other talent. We let Staios go for free before, and I doubt the Thrashers would want him back.

I do not think the Thrashers would do a two for one deal with the current roster crisis this injury has caused. Look for the Thrashers to take on some payroll in the waiver draft. A temp PPQB to fill in for Heatley, and a 2nd line forward will likely be needed.

The Thrashers have plenty of tough gritty defenseman with little other talent. We let Staios go for free before, and I doubt the Thrashers would want him back.

I do not think the Thrashers would do a two for one deal with the current roster crisis this injury has caused. Look for the Thrashers to take on some payroll in the waiver draft. A temp PPQB to fill in for Heatley, and a 2nd line forward will likely be needed.
how about Lehtonen and Exelby for Comrie and Hemsky u get two gifted power play guys who can move the puck well and u can kick Savard down and let Comrie be the first line center.

Well with The horrific car accident that happen yesterday I could see a deal between Atlanta and Edm for comrie becoming more of a reality.

How about this:


Stefan and Safronov to Edm

Comrie and Staois to Atlanta.

Edmonton get a center who might become a scoring center or at worse a reliable 3rd line center and a Defensive propspect.

Atlanta get a a 60+ point scoring center who is only 23 years old and a veteran D-man who they know, he was their captain 3 seasons ago. I understand they may have let them go, but given the choice again i doubt they would have done the same thing again.

Seems okay from an oiler standpoint but would it owrk for Atlanta?
I don't see how the accident factors in at all. It's not like they were going to the playoffs this year.

how about Lehtonen and Exelby for Comrie and Hemsky u get two gifted power play guys who can move the puck well and u can kick Savard down and let Comrie be the first line center.
2 of the players involved are untouchable so that won't ever happen and why the hell would Atlanta trade a franchise GOALTENDER for yet another talented forward.

2 of the players involved are untouchable so that won't ever happen and why the hell would Atlanta trade a franchise GOALTENDER for yet another talented forward.
Would Atlanta trade a franchise goaltender I sure hope not but if Heatleys out for a pro-longed time prison or injury, the Atlanta organization might have to make a move to put out a competitive team if they want to keep a respectable fan base. The two that were injured were forwards Snyder a center and Heatley Rw it is to early to tell how long Snyder will be out(best of luck) but Heatley should only be a month but even after he comes back Comrie and Hemsky would still help a ton

top two lines:
Kovalchuk-Comrie-Heatley (really good young exciting first line)
Kozlov-Savard-Hemsky (really good 2nd line definite double threat)

and Stefan has been known for having a solid defense and could fill Snyder's checking role on the third line and should Snyder return to hockey they can always trade someone else at a later date.

U say they are untouchables but sometimes situations like the current one can change protocols and rules. I know Lowe would be willing to give up Hemsky and Comrie in that deal because of the remarkable talent that Lehtonen has and Atlanta might if they deem the situation dire enough. I know this would be a very controversial trade and was expecting to get slammed on it but sometimes these choices have to be made.

how about Lehtonen and Exelby for Comrie and Hemsky u get two gifted power play guys who can move the puck well and u can kick Savard down and let Comrie be the first line center.

Both the Oilers and Thrashers aren't interested in that. Oilers are high on Deslauriers so they don't need another Goalie and the Thrashers have good youn gforwards already with Kovalchuk, Heatley, Stefan, etc. Just flat out doesn't make sense.

Would Atlanta trade a franchise goaltender I sure hope not but if Heatleys out for a pro-longed time prison or injury, the Atlanta organization might have to make a move to put out a competitive team if they want to keep a respectable fan base. The two that were injured were forwards Snyder a center and Heatley Rw it is to early to tell how long Snyder will be out(best of luck) but Heatley should only be a month but even after he comes back Comrie and Hemsky would still help a ton

top two lines:
Kovalchuk-Comrie-Heatley (really good young exciting first line)
Kozlov-Savard-Hemsky (really good 2nd line definite double threat)

and Stefan has been known for having a solid defense and could fill Snyder's checking role on the third line and should Snyder return to hockey they can always trade someone else at a later date.

U say they are untouchables but sometimes situations like the current one can change protocols and rules. I know Lowe would be willing to give up Hemsky and Comrie in that deal because of the remarkable talent that Lehtonen has and Atlanta might if they deem the situation dire enough. I know this would be a very controversial trade and was expecting to get slammed on it but sometimes these choices have to be made.
I think Lehtonen would have more of an impact in terms of keeping a respectable franchise and fan base. How does Hemsky impact that anymore then Lehtonen? He is not a known commodity or a house hold name. I don't believe Atlanta would be foolish enough to trade what could be their cornerstone (says a lot with Kovalchuk and Heatley there) just because Heatley is out for a few months.

If the Oil can fetch a duo from Atlanta for Comrie, I'm pretty adament that it should be Stefan and "X". If Atlanta is unwilling to part with Exelby, a Stefan and Safronov package could be a consideration, but Lowe had better not include another player, pick or dime to go along with Comrie.

Comrie and change is worth Stefan and Exelby...That's what Lowe has to push for.

I think Lehtonen would have more of an impact in terms of keeping a respectable franchise and fan base. How does Hemsky impact that anymore then Lehtonen? He is not a known commodity or a house hold name. I don't believe Atlanta would be foolish enough to trade what could be their cornerstone (says a lot with Kovalchuk and Heatley there) just because Heatley is out for a few months.
Your definetly right that Lehtonen would have a bigger impact than Hemsky but that could be about two years away and might take even longer for him to exceed Dafoe's skill and make a meaningful impact. Hemsky is in the here and now I think the Thrashers org can stand another two crappy years should Heatley goto prison(could be 15yrs) without a replacement(Hemsky would not goto waste even if he did comeback) but without intricate knowledge of the fan-base and financial situations its hard to tell what exactly what may occur and I merely gave an opinion on a certain plausible but unlikely scenario.

Now for thome as great as Desauriers may be he is not in the same level of talent as Lehtonen and he can be traded for something else of greater concern to the organization. Lehtonen is just one of those talents that u do NOT PASS UP if given the chance to acquire them no matter what else u have. As much as we love Hemsky and as much as it may hurt our chances to make the playoffs it will pay great dividends in the future. I would consider the Oilers a hockey hot-bed and a much more stable organization than Atlanta able to take a crappy couple of years but in an non-hockey city a absolutely putrid team may not be palatable to a finicky public. Most people in Atlanta are not hockey gurus and probably would not know what they lost but when they see a great top two lines they will think the trades are an upgrade and will be quite pleased people who do not know hockey well just want to see pretty goals.

Lastly the trades may not be even but if the need is great enough they will be done thats all I am saying. plus btn sounded kind of panicky I was wondering if he would like this trade as proposterous as it is just to ice a better team in the present.

If the Oil can fetch a duo from Atlanta for Comrie, I'm pretty adament that it should be Stefan and "X". If Atlanta is unwilling to part with Exelby, a Stefan and Safronov package could be a consideration, but Lowe had better not include another player, pick or dime to go along with Comrie.

Comrie and change is worth Stefan and Exelby...That's what Lowe has to push for.
hunter u have been pushing for that trade for a long time and with increased chances cause of injury how happy would u be if this deal actually got done?

I just think Stefan will look a lot better in Edmonton than he does Atlanta. He's a former FIRST OVERALL selection. Can you believe that?! What have you heard about this guy. No one is talking about him AND no one is calling him a bust (in the mold of a Daigle).

The answer is pretty simple. He's a great 2-way player and has assumed a "role" in Atlanta, albeit an important one. In Edmonton Stefan wouldn't only have the chance to produce more offensively, he'd be expected to. Further, he's been in the league for 3/4 years now, so he's ready to handle more responsibility and public/ media scrutiny.

Exelby is the wild and wonderful card IMO. I really see this guy becoming effective immediately. He's no Brewer, but it takes years to see the fruit a Brewer can bear. I expect Exelby to be as effective and valuable as Staios after a full season. He may even develope into a Smith.

LET"S DO IT!!!!!

Comrie and change for Stefan and Exelby.

Yes, Butcher....I'd be very pleased.

Im with you Hunter. Out of all the trade proposals I have seen for Comrie. This is the one I would like to see happen for the Oil. (Aside from all the fantasy proposals) This trade would actually make sense for both clubs. And would love to see what Stefan could do on Edmonton ice surface. So many players have made a name for themselves here with Edmonton's style of play.

Im with you Hunter. Out of all the trade proposals I have seen for Comrie. This is the one I would like to see happen for the Oil. (Aside from all the fantasy proposals) This trade would actually make sense for both clubs. And would love to see what Stefan could do on Edmonton ice surface. So many players have made a name for themselves here with Edmonton's style of play.
Other than Comrie for Fischer/Boynton I'd say it's my favourite deal that's "realistic".

Im with you Hunter. Out of all the trade proposals I have seen for Comrie. This is the one I would like to see happen for the Oil. (Aside from all the fantasy proposals) This trade would actually make sense for both clubs. And would love to see what Stefan could do on Edmonton ice surface. So many players have made a name for themselves here with Edmonton's style of play.

As a thrasher fan I don't think this trade makes sense for Atlanta in regards to giving up Stefan and Exelby. Stefan and Exelby are key players for the future especially regarding defensive play which is the teams main weakness. Prior to the accident the team didn't really need another offensive player like Comrie given that we have Heatley, Kovalchuk, Savard and Kozlov putting up big points. Trading Stefan and Exelby will leave a huge defensive hole for the team and long term it is not really worth it for a short term offense fix. Its true that we need to find someone in to replace Heatley's contribution for the short term but we can't afford to trade our long term assets to do so. Comrie will definately interest Atlanta but unless we can get him for an unknown prospect (such as in the Marc Savard deal) or draft picks he won't be in Atlanta.

My proposal: 2nd Round Pick + Kirill Safronov (Former 1st Rounder) for Comrie.

As a thrasher fan I don't think this trade makes sense for Atlanta in regards to giving up Stefan and Exelby. Stefan and Exelby are key players for the future especially regarding defensive play which is the teams main weakness. Prior to the accident the team didn't really need another offensive player like Comrie given that we have Heatley, Kovalchuk, Savard and Kozlov putting up big points. Trading Stefan and Exelby will leave a huge defensive hole for the team and long term it is not really worth it for a short term offense fix. Its true that we need to find someone in to replace Heatley's contribution for the short term but we can't afford to trade our long term assets to do so. Comrie will definately interest Atlanta but unless we can get him for an unknown prospect (such as in the Marc Savard deal) or draft picks he won't be in Atlanta.

My proposal: 2nd Round Pick + Kirill Safronov (Former 1st Rounder) for Comrie.

OMG dude you do realize that comrie has scored 33 goals already in the NHL right? Geez If your worries about the hole createed defensivly we can send you a 3-4th line "defensive" specilist with comrie to cover up.

How about Comrie and Pisani for Exelby and Stefan.

Would Atlanta trade a franchise goaltender I sure hope not but if Heatleys out for a pro-longed time prison or injury, the Atlanta organization might have to make a move to put out a competitive team if they want to keep a respectable fan base.

And what kind of player can alone bring this team to playoff contention if not a franchise goalie?

Lethonen will not go anywhere, nor will Fleury, Miller, etc. Goaltenders can make the team win in reg. season/playoffs all by themselves these days if they only have a decent team in front of them. Hasek, Theodore, Brodeur, Giguere, etc. have all done it in recent years.

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As a thrasher fan I don't think this trade makes sense for Atlanta in regards to giving up Stefan and Exelby. Stefan and Exelby are key players for the future especially regarding defensive play which is the teams main weakness. Prior to the accident the team didn't really need another offensive player like Comrie given that we have Heatley, Kovalchuk, Savard and Kozlov putting up big points. Trading Stefan and Exelby will leave a huge defensive hole for the team and long term it is not really worth it for a short term offense fix. Its true that we need to find someone in to replace Heatley's contribution for the short term but we can't afford to trade our long term assets to do so. Comrie will definately interest Atlanta but unless we can get him for an unknown prospect (such as in the Marc Savard deal) or draft picks he won't be in Atlanta.

My proposal: 2nd Round Pick + Kirill Safronov (Former 1st Rounder) for Comrie.


WOW. Safronov (yes I know he went 19 overall for Phoenix) is not even a top 4 defenseman for Atlanta and you think that it is a fair trade for Comrie. (1/2 line centre). Even with a draft pick this is the worst trade i've seen to date!!!!

And what kind of player can alone bring this team to playoff contention if not a franchise goalie?

Lethonen will not go anywhere, nor will Fleury, Miller, etc. Goaltenders can make the team win in reg. season/playoffs all by themselves these days if they only have a decent team behind them. Hasek, Theodore, Brodeur, Giguere, etc. have all done it in recent years.
Well I am sure Sakic or Hatcher could bring u a lot closer, but of course nothing can bring u closer than the almighty franchise goaltender mwuhahahahaha!! But I have seen crazier deals when trying to fullfill a need e.g.

To Phi:
Adam Oates(plays 14 games for Flyers who r eliminated first round of playoffs then becomes a free agent signs with Ducks, Flyers get nothing in return)

To Wsh:
Maxime Ouellet(just as good probably better than Lehtonen)
1st pick 2002
2nd pick 2002
3rd pick 2002

Well I am sure Sakic or Hatcher could bring u a lot closer, but of course nothing can bring u closer than the almighty franchise goaltender mwuhahahahaha!! But I have seen crazier deals when trying to fullfill a need e.g.

To Phi:
Adam Oates(plays 14 games for Flyers who r eliminated first round of playoffs then becomes a free agent signs with Ducks, Flyers get nothing in return)

To Wsh:
Maxime Ouellet(just as good probably better than Lehtonen)
1st pick 2002
2nd pick 2002
3rd pick 2002

It was crazy. But are Atlanta so close to drinking from the cup that they need to trade away their best prospect, one of the best in the league, for yet more offense?

It was crazy. But are Atlanta so close to drinking from the cup that they need to trade away their best prospect, one of the best in the league, for yet more offense?
I don't think so but time tells best, but I would prefer if u would put more attention on hunter-orange's trade as it is far less fantasy based and has merit that must be debated and discussed.

Sorry, Peter. There's no way Lowe trades Comrie for Safronov and a 2nd. The deal I've been pushing for stands. If Atlanta is concerned about losing one of its best 2-way players (Stefan), we can arrange to add Pisani or Rita into the deal.

Comrie & Pisani for Stefan & "X"

or

Comrie & Rita for Stefan, "X" & 3rd.


*** A Comrie (+) for Stefan (+) deal MUST involve Exelby NOT Safronov IMO.

how about Lehtonen and Exelby for Comrie and Hemsky u get two gifted power play guys who can move the puck well and u can kick Savard down and let Comrie be the first line center.
hmmm, not saying its gonna happen and it was a crazy and stupid trade proposal that I did not put a whole lot of thought into. But after u guys picked up another quality goaltender I got to thinking about this post, U guys now have 4 NHL calibre goaltenders Hurme, Nurminen,Lehtonen(not to distant future) and Dafoe. Today results from Heatleys injuries came in and looks to be out for possibly a year-
http://www.atlantathrashers.com/View.aspx?CID01=f0f05701-058e-4ac3-90f4-af4464a95c9a

not saying its gonna happen but as I said sometimes people do crazy things to fullfill a need. Just food for thought :D (don't flame me too bad)

P.S. U probably got Hurme so u could move Dafoe I just bumped this so in the unlikely event I can get "I told u so" rights.

Well with The horrific car accident that happen yesterday I could see a deal between Atlanta and Edm for comrie becoming more of a reality.

How about this:


Stefan and Safronov to Edm

Comrie and Staois to Atlanta.

Edmonton get a center who might become a scoring center or at worse a reliable 3rd line center and a Defensive propspect.

Atlanta get a a 60+ point scoring center who is only 23 years old and a veteran D-man who they know, he was their captain 3 seasons ago. I understand they may have let them go, but given the choice again i doubt they would have done the same thing again.

Seems okay from an oiler standpoint but would it owrk for Atlanta?

Comrie = 2nd line centre (would be first if not for his size, in the future)
Staios = Oilers best D-Man last season, good leader

Stefan = reliable 3rd line centre (have that, Reasoner, need a 2nd line centre)
Safronov = Prospect D-Man, thins the Oil defence further no good


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I think Lehtonen would have more of an impact in terms of keeping a respectable franchise and fan base. How does Hemsky impact that anymore then Lehtonen? He is not a known commodity or a house hold name. I don't believe Atlanta would be foolish enough to trade what could be their cornerstone (says a lot with Kovalchuk and Heatley there) just because Heatley is out for a few months.

Hemsky may not be a household name yet, but check back at the end of the year. A lot of people are going to be asking where this guy came from. I have seen him play the preseason and he is toying with opposing defensmen. He is stronger and faster then last year and will cause opposing teams absolute fits. He is one of the most talented players I have seen in recent years..

that bing said. I would prefer the Oilers keep Hemsky. He will be an immensly valuable part of the team for years to come.