Oilers-Canucks Gameday Thread Sept.30/03

Should be good tonight. Oilers need to figure out who their top six will be, and aside from the obvious (Smyth, York, Dvorak, Hemsky) the two centermen are up in the air. Does Isbister play 1line LW with Smyth in the middle? Will York move over?

Hope York has a good game tonight.

Just thought I'd mention, Naslund isn't playing tonight (ailing groin), but he will be only miss the one game).

Can anyone tell me if Alexei Semenov is playing? He was astounding last time the two teams met in pre-season - maybe he won't suffer a sophmore slump?

Just thought I'd mention, Naslund isn't playing tonight (ailing groin), but he will be only miss the one game).

Can anyone tell me if Alexei Semenov is playing? He was astounding last time the two teams met in pre-season - maybe he won't suffer a sophmore slump?

Yes he is playing.

I also hope York can show us how he has rebounded from his injury. The team will need him healthy to make it to the dance.

I'll try not to cringe every time he takes a shot on the wrist.

I also hope York can show us how he has rebounded from his injury. The team will need him healthy to make it to the dance.

I'll try not to cringe every time he takes a shot on the wrist.

Very good news about Semenov. I took a lot of heat over on the OIlers board for saying he was better than Komisarek. He's got a lot of potential - perhaps more than I even realized last season!

As for York, I think Mike is a pretty tough guy, but a pretty smart guy too. I don't forsee this being a problem for him!

Very good news about Semenov. I took a lot of heat over on the OIlers board for saying he was better than Komisarek. He's got a lot of potential - perhaps more than I even realized last season!

As for York, I think Mike is a pretty tough guy, but a pretty smart guy too. I don't forsee this being a problem for him!

I would love to see Mike York with a great game tonight. This way he can gain even more confidence with his wrist. I'm anticipating a career year for him.

I would love to see Mike York with a great game tonight. This way he can gain even more confidence with his wrist. I'm anticipating a career year for him.

As am I, but I hope he doesn't have a good game tonight.. against my Canucks :D

Does Anyone know the lineups for tonight?

I think I saw that 2 of the pairings were...

Moreau - Reasoner - Pisani
Rita -Stoll - Laraque

Does Anyone know the lineups for tonight?

I think I saw that 2 of the pairings were...

Moreau - Reasoner - Pisani
Rita -Stoll - LaraqueCompliments of spaz44

Isbister-York-Hemsky
Torres-Sarno-Salmelainen
Moreau-Reasoner-Pisani
Rita-Stoll-Laraque

Semenov-Smith
Bergeron-Staios
Cross-Luoma

Salo
Valiquette

Smyth, Brewer both skated yesterday and will be back soon. Horcoff has injured his hip and will need a few days to rest and heal. Scratches, Ferguson, Chimera and Wright.

As am I, but I hope he doesn't have a good game tonight.. against my Canucks :D


Who's in the nets for Van?

Hedberg, I believe.

Kevin Pedergast (spelling?) is on the pre-game Canucks radio show. Rundown of his thoughts of the Oilers camp:

- Down to 27 players. Going to keep all 27 until the end of the exhibition schedule.

- Very comptetive camp, young players playingwell, singled out Mikko Luoma

- Said the hockey club still has 4 positions.

- The 7th defensemen spot is battling between Bergeron & Luoma . Guess this means Ferguson won his spot.

- Sarno or Stoll is going to replace Comrie for the time being.

- Rita & Salmelinen are 'fighting for a spot'

- Horcoff playing hard, will get an increased role on the squad

- Re: Comrie.. nothing has changed, still in a stalemate. Lowe & Winter talk evey day, but there's 'a gap there'. 'We go on as if it was an injury'.

- Asked if Lowe has talked to other teams: NO! .. at least, not yet. They want to use that as a last-resort. If they feel it's impossible to sign him, they will move him.

- Regarding Comrie's dad & The Brick: 'I think last year was pretty tough on Mike... our stars weren't our stars and Mike paid the price from the fans & the media'

- 'I think he wants to play hockey.. there are some ill feelings from the end of last year.. we are trying to bridge [the gap]... I think Mike is antsy'

- 'We feel this is the year to make a dent [in the western conference].. Salo came into camp in tremendous shape... Hemsky is a player that [we think is at the tip of the iceberg].. we think he can be a superstar.'

sweet interview recap, thanks

interesting thing I read about york, in the 56 games before his injury, he had 51 points. Considering mact moved him around like an army brat, that is very impressive. Almost a point a game clip. If mact keeps him with two good linemates and lots of ice time, could he go from 0.9 points per game to 1.0 points per game?

The 7th defensemen spot is battling between Bergeron & Luoma . Guess this means Ferguson won his spot.

- Sarno or Stoll is going to replace Comrie for the time being.

- Rita & Salmelinen are 'fighting for a spot'

- Horcoff playing hard, will get an increased role on the squad



Ferguson may make the team, but with Cross back there as well that situation may not last a complete season. TWO really slow guys? That hasn't worked since the 67 Leafs.

Have to hand it to Sarno, he's hung in really well. Rita has lost every traingin camp battle he's ever fought, and he's on the 4th line tonight. Nice to know they plan on using Horcoff more.

Ferguson may make the team, but with Cross back there as well that situation may not last a complete season. TWO really slow guys? That hasn't worked since the 67 Leafs.

Have to hand it to Sarno, he's hung in really well. Rita has lost every traingin camp battle he's ever fought, and he's on the 4th line tonight. Nice to know they plan on using Horcoff more.

Over in Tampa, they have 3 fairly slow guys and works okay. You just have to pair them with faster guys.

EDIT: By the way, a few Oiler & Canuck fans over in HF chat. Drop by if you boys and girls want to chat during the game.

http://www.starlink-irc.org/java/java_mountvernon.html?chan=#Gamenightchat

anyone else having problems with the web telecast from CHED?

Over in Tampa, they have 3 fairly slow guys and works okay. You just have to pair them with faster guys.


I don't know the Lightning well enough to comment on this, but it's likely they'll improve their backline speed long before they win alot.

Oilers score, Salmelainen from Isbister :yo:

Go Tony!

Salmelainen has two now,right? Does Jani have a point yet. Now Laraque is saying hi for Ryan Smyth to Bryan Allen.

Laraque tunes up Allen give the kid creditfor going with a true heavy weight.

Salmelainen has two now,right? Does Jani have a point yet. Now Laraque is saying hi for Ryan Smyth to Bryan Allen.

Yeah Rita scored a goal against Calgary didn't he? Came in from a tough angle and scored pretty much from the goal line

Soup Opera Sopel draw bad penalty.

bboooo!!! too many penalties

4 times 2 men short is a curse. Salo holding us in.http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

bboooo!!! too many penalties

it looks like the refs are in mid-season form

Salo scores. The vancouver one :D

I'm glad I'm not in Van-city watchin this, I think I'd have jumped on the ice by now.

Just what we need, undisciplined dmen. Staios just took a high-sticking penalty. That's 5 dmen in the box in a row.

Now Hemsky puts us 2 men down for the 5th time.

And a bench minor on top of it.

This is nuts.

How to Buy the Referee's for a game:

#1 - Find a referee who has a grudge on coach MacTavish
#2 - Send money via laundry bags with the money symbol on it, so viewers at home can understand it is a bribe.
#3 - Sit back and cackle maniacally, preferably with one robotic hand stroking a white cat while chair facing away from your desk, and darkness covers your face.

Just as a matter of interest, who is the ref tonight? His name wouldn't happen to be VanMassenhoven or Walkom would it?

Just as a matter of interest, who is the ref tonight? His name wouldn't happen to be VanMassenhoven or Walkom would it?R. Shick(sp?) is one of them.

How to Buy the Referee's for a game:

#1 - Find a referee who has a grudge on coach MacTavish
#2 - Send money via laundry bags with the money symbol on it, so viewers at home can understand it is a bribe.
#3 - Sit back and cackle maniacally, preferably with one robotic hand stroking a white cat while chair facing away from your desk, and darkness covers your face.

haha, yeah it sure seems this way!

although now im not so sure? Vancouver just got a penalty for a face off violation?!

man o man, let the guys play! :dunno:

Drat!

#3 - Sit back and cackle maniacally, preferably with one robotic hand stroking a white cat while chair facing away from your desk, and darkness covers your face.

Doo doo doo doo doo inspector gadjet. :yo:

bergeron scores!!! 2-2 assisted by Laraque and Rita...

Anyone know if the plan to make cuts after the game?

Oilers tie it up with great goal by bergy!:handclap:

Did Sarno play a minute that period? Stoll sounds like he's having a good game on the pk.

15 penalties for 35 minutes in the pookie http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/angryfire.gifand it's 2 - 2. images/smilies/smile.gif Time to kick some Canuck butt!http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/joker.gif We've been out shot 26 to 8, not good! So who thinks this game is not going according to the game plan. ;)

5 times with a 2-man advantage...3 times over 1.5 minutes.

Ouch.

15 penalties for 35 minutes in the pookie http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/angryfire.gifand it's 2 - 2. images/smilies/smile.gif Time to kick some Canuck butt!http://www.hfboards.com/images/smilies/joker.gif We've been out shot 26 to 8, not good! So who thinks this game is not going according to the game plan. ;)

Die Oilers Die!

We have you right where we want you!......... I think!

How to Buy the Referee's for a game:

#1 - Find a referee who has a grudge on coach MacTavish
#2 - Send money via laundry bags with the money symbol on it, so viewers at home can understand it is a bribe.
#3 - Sit back and cackle maniacally, preferably with one robotic hand stroking a white cat while chair facing away from your desk, and darkness covers your face.
:lol:

Another thing you can do is stand behind the timekeepers' box rubbing your fingers together as if you're holding invisible money.

(Commerical Break)

Rod: "I can't believe I forgot where we were Morley"

Morley: "Look! They've got the glass technicians picking Ruutu out of the boards Rod"

according to sportsnet news Bergy has 1 goal + 1 assist so far....

(Commerical Break)

Rod: "I can't believe I forgot where we were Morley"

Morley: "Look! They've got the glass technicians picking Ruutu out of the boards Rod":lol: I laughed when I heard it and again when I read it.

are we losing to the ref or what?

anyone know if the oilers plan to make cuts after the game?

are we losing to the ref or what?

well the Canucks only scored 1 goal on their PP's so you can't blame the refs overly. They also came out of the period tied at 2. Granted the reffing seemed go awful but they were still tied going into the 3rd

4-2 Canucks

Did anything good come out of this? I know it's still preseason...

:lol:

Another thing you can do is stand behind the timekeepers' box rubbing your fingers together as if you're holding invisible money.Mr. Burns?

itsmagic, your avatar looks like something out of fireball xl-5, what's that from?

One thing Morley mentioned that was interesting is that almost all of the offense created came from Hemsky, Isbister or Salmelainen. We should probably add Bergeron to that list.

What ARE they going to do about Salmelainen?

SH! IT CONTINUES! Out shot 39 to 10. Tommy Salo should have been 1st Star.

anyone know if the oilers plan to make cuts after the game?

See post #12
Mizral[/i]]Kevin Pedergast (spelling?) is on the pre-game Canucks radio show. Rundown of his thoughts of the Oilers camp:

- Down to 27 players. Going to keep all 27 until the end of the exhibition schedule.

Mr. Burns?
I was actually thinking of "Slick, doctor of Style", from the olden-days WWF. :yo:

lowetide, the avatar is of Professor Rudolph Popkiss from "Supercar"... a show that predated "Fireball XL5" (I wish I were a spaceman...) from the same production team. My hairline is somewhat similar.

As to what they are going to do about Salmelainen, well, I got the pleasure of seeing him skate in the first exhibition game from row one in the Saddledome. That boy can fly! I'd love to see Lowe and MacT keep him up for the big show.

So while some are into adornment I wonder why Ethan Moreau is -2 again. Maybe security leads to complacency and a trade will solve that big time.:rant:

so Bergeron upped his value again this game and Luomo lowered his again so is it a fair assesment Bergie is a lock for opening night?
Salmelainen played well second game in a row improving his value and Rita's bad pass lowered his value to MacT who hates those kind of mistakes I wonder who's gonna get cut out of the two?

2nd line?:
Salmelainen-York-Dvorak

So while some are into adornment I wonder why Ethan Moreau is -2 again. Maybe security leads to complacency and a trade will solve that big time.:rant:

The coaches are really happy with Salmo. He started camp with an injury but has worked hard and seems very determined to play in the bigs this year. He should have the advantage over Rita because he's a RW and not a LW. Also, he's simply played better the last few games. Rita got an assist tonight (secondary). I think they and Stoll will remain for the last few games. Sarno and Wright, Luoma and Allen, and Valiquette are done IMO. That would leave 24 players for 23 spots (not including Comrie).

From yahoo post game report:

Vancouver tied the game during a stretch of nine-straight Edmonton penalties to start the second period. Those calls left Oilers GM Kevin Lowe tossing paper out of his upper-level suite at GM Place.

Did K-Lowe really do that? Throwing gum at Tyson Nash, MacT ripping mascot's tongues off, the Oilers management really do coach like they used to play.
BTW, sounds like Salo played a really solid game tonight.

From yahoo post game report:

Vancouver tied the game during a stretch of nine-straight Edmonton penalties to start the second period. Those calls left Oilers GM Kevin Lowe tossing paper out of his upper-level suite at GM Place.

Did K-Lowe really do that? Throwing gum at Tyson Nash, MacT ripping mascot's tongues off, the Oilers management really do coach like they used to play.
BTW, sounds like Salo played a really solid game tonight.

Uhm...wouldn't Kevin Lowe be in Toronto for the GM meetings? :dunno:

well, I just got back from the game here in van city, sure does suck losing in vancouver when surrounded by canucks fans

Heres a few thoughts on the players though

Salo played fantastically, made some great diving saves, still flopping around a lot but seems to be hanging in there. I noticed he still has the same problem as last year though. He seems to have a lot of trouble with the hard slapshots, i can think of a few zubov goals that he could see clearly from the point. Maybe we should just have semenov sit there and take slapshots on him all practice.

Hemsky really wasnt all that great tonight, his passes kept hitting sticks although he did make a couple nice passes that no one could get a stick on. He had a ton of ice time

York looked pretty good, he was flying out there but didnt really get too many great chances. He also played a ton.

Sarno was all but invisible. He lost his check on the second canucks goal by chasing him around the net and leaving king open in front of the net for the easy tip in.

Stoll had a great game playing tons of time on the Penalty Kill, winning some key faceoffs and such. Im pretty sure he'll get the spot over sarno.

Salmelainen was also flying, he backchecks pretty well, and got a nice goal.

Isbister was alright, made a nice move to the front of the net for the first goal, but kind of disappeared after that.

Semenov manhandled quite a few guys, got called on it once or twice, but was pretty decent overall i thought.

I think bergy won the spot over Luoma tonight, an assist plus a nice goal, although cloutier really should have had it. He got easily outmuscled by bertuzzi in the first but who doesnt. He wasnt a problem on defense, ill be happy to have him out there instead of ferguson when it comes down to it.

I thought Rita was working pretty hard out there, but he just didnt seem to get any bounces. Its a tough call between him and salmelainen. It seems like Salmo keeps burying his chance, making things tough on Rita.

The penalties in this game were ridiculous, Ruutu pissed Jason SMith off quite a bit causing smith to facewash him and get the 4 min in the second to start the string of penalties. If it wasnt preseason i wouldnt want to see that, but i hate jarkko so it was pretty good. Smith also had a great check on ruutu in the third, i love seeing that.

Anyways, hopefully next time they come to town i get beat up.

Stoll had a great game playing tons of time on the Penalty Kill, winning some key faceoffs and such. Im pretty sure he'll get the spot over sarno.
Some faceoff stats:

York: 11 of 18
Reasoner: 11 of 21
Sarno: 5 of 9
Stoll: 11 of 22

Nice to see York doing well in the dot for a 2nd consecutive game. The wrist must be improving.

Sarno only had 6:14 of ice time...that's Laraquesque. He may as well have stayed in the dressing room. All those Oiler penalties sure didn't help, but in 9:48 of Oiler PP time he got exactly 6 seconds worth of participation in it. Not a good sign for him.

On a side note, Bergeron got more than twice as much PP time (5:28) as Luoma (2:30).

Brownlee said Isbsiter was "lights out"...I've never heard this expression...Is it good or bad...Was he knocked out or did he shoot out the lights? What the hell doe that mean...

http://www.canoe.ca/EdmontonSports/es.es-10-01-0091.html

I would venture that 'lights out' means either played so brilliantly that he blew out the lights or you could have seen him without the lights. I'm probably wrong, but I know it has a positive connotation.

Uhm...wouldn't Kevin Lowe be in Toronto for the GM meetings? :dunno:

Nah, he and Burke flew back together for the game.

4-2 Canucks

Did anything good come out of this? I know it's still preseason...

I think nothing came out of this game...For Canucks fans, I'm sure they are glad their team one just like I would have been happy if the Oilers would have one...

But how the hell can the coaching staff and management evaluate the players when there is no flow, some players are sitting for long stretches at a time because of special teams...Rob Schick has got to be in my opinion one of the worst refs I've ever seen and it'snot just for last night's game...Every time I watch a game and he refs, I just shake my head...Terrible...

One wasted pre-season game...

I think nothing came out of this game...For Canucks fans, I'm sure they are glad their team one just like I would have been happy if the Oilers would have one...

But how the hell can the coaching staff and management evaluate the players when there is no flow, some players are sitting for long stretches at a time because of special teams...Rob Schick has got to be in my opinion one of the worst refs I've ever seen and it'snot just for last night's game...Every time I watch a game and he refs, I just shake my head...Terrible...

One wasted pre-season game...

Agreed on Schick & the game. Zero flow, hard to find out how the teams were playing.

For us, Henrik Sedin played brilliantly, as did Jason King & Sami Salo.

For you guys, it sounded like Tommy Salo had a fine game outside of a HORRIBLE rebound which he kicked right to Mike Keane's stick. It sounded like Laraque was involved, which is nice to see, and Salmelinnian came out guns blazing - I hope he wins a spot ahead of Rita, I like this guy! Semenov also had another solid game, which sounds awesome.