Gaborik.....What would it cost? [Archive]

TehDoak

09-30-2003, 05:20 PM

#37-#93-#27*

09-30-2003, 05:23 PM

Just curious that IF Gaborik becomes a long holdout....how much would a team have to overpay to get him?

A Modest Proposal:

To Buffalo: Gaborik
To Minnesota: Brown, Kotalik, Connoly, 1st rounder in 2004, 1st rounder in 2005.

Buffalo gets franchise player, Minnesota gets a good 2 way center, a young goal scorer, and a Potential top line center, and 2 1st round draft picks.
That might be too much or atleast less then ideal for Buffalo.

andora

09-30-2003, 05:24 PM

that isn't even worth it for minny.. awful offer IMHO

nathan

09-30-2003, 05:27 PM

The Wild have way too many people like Brown. Heck their whole system revolves around people like Brown!

McCabe24

09-30-2003, 05:44 PM

Gaborik won't be traded in a quality for quantity deal...this deal doesn't work out for both teams IMO...Buffalo loses one whole line and a ton of depth, and Minnesota gets what it isn't looking for right now in these guys...I could maybe see something like:

Pyatt, Hecht, 2nd 2004
for
Gaborik

This is still kind of a quality for quantity deal I do admit, but I think it would take Pyatt's name to get the talks rolling...The only fair one for one offer from Buffalo would be Satan for Gaborik, but Minnesota cannot handle Dupuis' 1 million a year salary, let alone Satan's new 5 million a year salary....

andora

09-30-2003, 05:45 PM

i'd say a jay mckee / taylor pyatt combo is where to start

#37-#93-#27*

09-30-2003, 05:48 PM

that isn't even worth it for minny.. awful offer IMHO
That offer borders a Lindros (draft) type trade. I would be surprised if we see another one of those for anyone currently playing in the NHL. Specially under these situations with all the finance worries and such.

Losing two first rounders and young adaquate players with upside could really cripple a franchise if a cap is implimented.

TehDoak

09-30-2003, 05:57 PM

That offer borders a Lindros (draft) type trade. I would be surprised if we see another one of those for anyone currently playing in the NHL. Specially under these situations with all the finance worries and such.

Losing two first rounders and young adaquate players with upside could really cripple a franchise if a cap is implimented.

I guess here are my thoughts:
#1. Gaborik is already an NHL star, and at 21, well, he is only going to get better. If he were lets say 24 or 25, he would potentially be 2-3 years away from UFA status. He is, however, at minimum, 6 years away from UFA status.
#2. Buffalo has alot of 2nd line NHLers, but only 2 1st liners. Gaborik would complete the equation and give Buffalo quite a good top line and a legit franchise player, who they don't have.
#3. 2 1st rounders isn't too much to give up, IMHO. Look at Buffalo's first round draft record prior to Vanek in the past few years: Kriukov, Novotny, Heistein, and ballard. While Ballard may be a good NHL d-man, Buffalo will not be drafting in top 5 anytime soon (at least i hope not).

Perhaps another proposal:

To Buffalo: Gaborik
To Minnesota: Connoly, Kotalik, Kalinin, 1st rounder.

Minnesota gets ALOT of pontetial, Buffalo gets alot of goals. Buffalo would probably have to wheel a deal a little more to fill Kalinin's shoes (maybe someone like Gauthier?)

KillToronto

09-30-2003, 06:18 PM

Just curious that IF Gaborik becomes a long holdout....how much would a team have to overpay to get him?

A Modest Proposal:

To Buffalo: Gaborik
To Minnesota: Brown, Kotalik, Connoly, 1st rounder in 2004, 1st rounder in 2005.

Buffalo gets franchise player, Minnesota gets a good 2 way center, a young goal scorer, and a Potential top line center, and 2 1st round draft picks.

Oh dear God no! Gaborik better be a fifty goal scorer for 8 years in a row if we give up those three players and 2 first round picks. Sorry but Gaborik isn't the 1980's Gretzky. No deal.

thestonedkoala

09-30-2003, 06:20 PM

OUCH!

I'm sorry but what Minnesota needs is a 1st liner player, Connolly hasn't done much, Kotalik needs more time under their belt and uhhh the 1st are really what Minnesota would want.

ceber

09-30-2003, 06:42 PM

If you really want Gaborik, call up Walsh, make an offer, and hand over the 5 1st rounders. :)

#37-#93-#27*

09-30-2003, 07:05 PM

OUCH!

I'm sorry but what Minnesota needs is a 1st liner player, Connolly hasn't done much, Kotalik needs more time under their belt and uhhh the 1st are really what Minnesota would want.
Then why don't you just sign him. No one will trade a first liner along with a lot more stuff for the same type of player.

RoyIsALegend*

09-30-2003, 07:10 PM

Milan Hejduk, Martin Skoula, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick
for
Marian Gaborik and Brad Bombardir

thestonedkoala

09-30-2003, 07:27 PM

Deal Roy!

Just FYI, Bomber rarely plays a full season.

236nOT

09-30-2003, 07:40 PM

I think any Gaborik to Buffalo talks would begin with Vanek and include one legitimate NHLer, one marginal NHLer and several picks.

Freudian

09-30-2003, 07:53 PM

I can't see them trade him. How are they going to get a fair deal (be it one or more players) and NOT have to pay as much salary? And it is not like his demands are out of this world.

I do understand the organization wanting to keep costs under control but for a player like Gaborik you will have to pay a bit. Apparantly he wants 4M and they want to pay him 2.5M. I think a three year deal worth 10M would be fair at this stage (or somewhere around there).

This guy is a great hockey player and surely he helps bring in some money to the Wild also. If he is the difference between playoff and missed playoff, he pays his own salary.

As for him not being Gretzky, of course that is true. But I think he is along with Heatly the closest thing to a Yzerman/Sakic today. A guy to build your franchise around for a long long time.

thome_26

09-30-2003, 08:23 PM

OH MY GOD!!!!! Did no body see the two first round picks, a potential top six two way center, One of the leaders in goals for Rookies last year in that proposal!?!?!?!???!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? Gaborik is GREAT, but IMO that would be enough to get him! TWO FIRSTS YOU GUYS! PLUS TWO GOOD YOUNG KIDS!

aylib

10-01-2003, 04:31 AM

Milan Hejduk, Martin Skoula, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick
for
Marian Gaborik and Brad Bombardir
Where do we sign? (Barring any changes in the UFA column rules)

Ajacied

10-01-2003, 04:35 AM

Brenden Morrow, Niko Kapanen, John Erskine, and Columbus 2nd rounder in 2004

for

Marian Gaborik and a decent prospect

aylib

10-01-2003, 04:40 AM

Brenden Morrow, Niko Kapanen, John Erskine, and Columbus 2nd rounder in 2004

for

Marian Gaborik and a decent prospect
I would personally pass on that.

Ajacied

10-01-2003, 04:41 AM

I would personally pass on that.

So would I, just making a proposal that's fair valuewise

colonel_kernel

10-01-2003, 04:57 AM

What about Havlat + Vermet/pick
for Gaborik.
Ottawa gets a left winger for there top line and Minny gets a fair return.

marcel

10-01-2003, 05:13 AM

LaVal

10-01-2003, 05:25 AM

that isn't even worth it for minny.. awful offer IMHO

those two 1st round picks are likely to be top-5 picks and an entry into the Ovechkin and Crosby lotteries.

overpayment by Buffalo IMO

TehDoak

10-01-2003, 05:30 AM

those two 1st round picks are likely to be top-5 picks and an entry into the Ovechkin and Crosby lotteries.

overpayment by Buffalo IMO

Think about what you just said. If Buffalo gets Gaborik, there's no way those are top 5 picks. Gaborik-Drury-Satan would probably be one of the best top lines in the NHL. Just a thought.

Other Dave

10-01-2003, 05:49 AM

What about Havlat + Vermet/pick
for Gaborik.
Ottawa gets a left winger for there top line and Minny gets a fair return.

Allen Walsh is the agent for both Havlat and Gaborik. It would just be swapping one problem for a more expensive one.

Other Dave

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 07:24 AM

I would do the Dallas trade, Morrow, Kapanen and Erskine are awesome players.

And no, Minnesota, again DOES NOT NEED A GOALIE/

#37-#93-#27*

10-01-2003, 07:36 AM

I would do the Dallas trade, Morrow, Kapanen and Erskine are awesome players.

And no, Minnesota, again DOES NOT NEED A GOALIE/
You just said before you only trade Gaborik for a first liner?

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 07:56 AM

Well to me Morrow could turn into a first line player simply because of the way he plays. Minnesota has a tedancy to use Morrowesque players on their first lines and Morrow still has a lot of upside to him. Morrow would also replace Gaborik on the left side and let a guy like O'Sullivan take over on the right.

I sitll have a lot of doubts surrounding Kotalik and Connolly. If Connolly breaks out and Kotalik continues to play well, I mgiht consider it but I like the Dallas trade because it gives them a true PF and top line player in Morrow (I don't care if you agree or not but Minnesota does use these types to play on their top line) AND it gives them a good second player player and a defensive player you simply don't find everywhere. Erskine is special in himself. I think M=G said it best he'll be like Tucker. You'll love to have him on your team but hate to play against him.

Bobs your uncle

10-01-2003, 07:57 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel

Shark Attack

10-01-2003, 07:59 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel

Get ready to duck, as this is not even close to a fair offer for Minnesota.

Chomp, Chomp

FacelessButcher

10-01-2003, 08:02 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel
honestly, what possesed u to put in the second pick?

TehDoak

10-01-2003, 08:05 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel

::Ducks in preperation of the barrage of Wild fans rising up against Toronto::

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 08:07 AM

Start with Steen.

LALALALALALAFONTAINE

10-01-2003, 08:12 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel

Overpayment by Toronto fans. Green and Reichel for Gaborik and 1st round pick.

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 08:23 AM

I can't believe I didn't see this:

TO NEW YORK ISLANDERS:
Marian Gaborik
Brad Brown/Jason Marshall/Brad Bombardir

TO MINNESOTA:
Janne Niinimaa
Mattias Weinhandl
Mark Parrish

I know, I know I said I wanted a top line in return but I think personally this could work out for the best :D

Hi-wayman

10-01-2003, 09:15 AM

To Vancouver:
Gaborik
4th round pick in 2004

To the Wild:
Marek Malik - a top 4 D on a strong defense
Jarkko Ruutu (or Mats Lindgren) - a good agitator & utility winger
R J Umberger - 2001 1st rnd pick, Hobbie Baker finalist & potential top 6 centre, but still unsigned by Vancouver - wants $1 to $1.2 mil/yr to sign

or

To Vancouver:
Gaborik
Fernandez

To the Wild:
Brendan Morrison - Vancouver's 1st line centre
Marek Malik
Ryan Ready - NHL ready LW prospect (50+ point seasons last 2 years with Moose)

aylib

10-01-2003, 09:22 AM

ceber

10-01-2003, 09:58 AM

There's very little real pressure on the Wild to resolve the issue in a hurry. At this point in time, a team would need to overpay to get Gaborik. Who wants to do that?

#37-#93-#27*

10-01-2003, 09:59 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel
Very daring! :joker:

Hi-wayman

10-01-2003, 10:11 AM

Wild is stacked at center, so #2 is off, even though it is better than #1, which in my opnion is more like an insult.
I consider the Wild a well coached, good defensively oriented team, but to say the Wild are stacked at any position, except maybe goal, is unrealistic. I don't even consider the Canucks stacked at any position.

Gaborik is an excellant player with tons of upside, but he would not play 1st line on the Canucks. To offer a 1st pairing defenseman of Malik's calibre and one of Vancouver's best prospects is far from an insult. You may wish more & I personally don't believe the Wild would trade Gaborik, but for the most part few teams are willing to take on more salary and more often would want the Wild to either take back a high priced player such as Jagr or just offer future potential rather than a player the Wild can use now. Obviously every team in the league would find a way to fit Gaborik into their lineup if he was available.

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 11:26 AM

Wyvern

10-01-2003, 11:32 AM

What would you think of

Jason Arnott, Steve Ott, and a second round pick?

TehDoak

10-01-2003, 11:40 AM

Center:
Mikko Koivu
Pierre-Marc Bouchard
Dan Cavanaugh
Dan Irmen
Marc Cavosie
Armands Berzins

Forwards:
Brent Burns
Patrick O'Sullivan
Kyle Wanvig
Mika Hannula
Stephane Veilleux
Rickard Wallin
Matt Foy
Marcin Kolusz
Adam Chouchraine
Mark Cullen

Pascal Dupuis
Marian Gaborik

I think the Wild have a pretty stocked piled front team I mean:

Gaborik- Koivu- Burns
Dupuis- Bouchard- Foy
Veilleux- O'Sullivan- Wanvig
And then whatever is left...that's pretty solid...

If you take Gaborik off that team, its a pretty solid, but umimpressive group. Koivu and Bouchard could be a great combo in a year or two, but they won't scare any teams yet. Gaborik is minnesota's biggest and best weapon, and to trade him, they would have to get quite the ransom, IMHO.

AEKaki

10-01-2003, 11:43 AM

are the wild ready to go all season with out gaborink.are they going to take a gamble and see what happens with the cba were the rookies will surley take large pay cuts...just a thought

how bout gaborink to pittsburg

minesota gets------marc andre flurey and ?

pittsburg gets -----gaborink

pittsburg gets a mini mario to keep the fans happy or do the pittsburg pens just finnish near last and go far overchekin?

I'd love Gaborik on the Pens, but I think M.A. Fleury is alot more valuable long term to the Pens then Gaborik would be. I know the Pens have low talent up front, but Fleury is a good start to their problems.
If the Pens do end up finishing last, Ovechkin 1st or Olesz 2nd would be good compensation long term.

I was thinking about this:

To Oilers:
Gaborik, 3rd

To Minnessota:
Comrie, Rita, Semenov, 2nd

thestonedkoala

10-01-2003, 11:53 AM

1) I don't think that the Wild if they even thought about it will trade to a conference rival.

2) The Wild have a lot of role players in their prospect lists and some guys that no one has heard of that will blossom into solid players. Foy and Wallin are two that have had great camps but still need a little more tinkering. O'Sullivan has been scary too, as in good scary.

3) Yes, the Wild do need to sign Gaborik, and they will be a great team once they do.

4) We don't need Ott or Arnott.

wingnut 8

10-01-2003, 12:56 PM

to Minn-Datsyuk and Schneider
to Det-Gaborik

aylib

10-01-2003, 02:38 PM

to Minn-Datsyuk and Schneider
to Det-Gaborik
Im dont think Wild is going to contend, so renting Schneider for a couple of years doesnt make Datsyuk= or better than Gaborik. IMO.

Hemsky01

10-01-2003, 08:15 PM

What are you thoughts on an Edmonton Wild proposal. A couple of Wild fans(I assume) say the want a first line player, a good prospect and high draft pick.

How about:

Comrie
Rita
First Round pick 2004/Bergeron/Lynch

Gaborik
3rd round pick(if Lynch or the first round pick is added)

RoyIsALegend*

10-01-2003, 08:41 PM

To Vancouver:
Gaborik
4th round pick in 2004

To the Wild:
Marek Malik - a top 4 D on a strong defense
Jarkko Ruutu (or Mats Lindgren) - a good agitator & utility winger
R J Umberger - 2001 1st rnd pick, Hobbie Baker finalist & potential top 6 centre, but still unsigned by Vancouver - wants $1 to $1.2 mil/yr to sign

You have got to be kidding me.

That is one God awful proposal.

A career #4 defenseman, a 4th liner and a pain-in-the-ass second tier offensive prospect for a prolific young sniper?

Yuck.

Ajacied

10-01-2003, 08:47 PM

You have got to be kidding me.

That is one God awful proposal.

A career #4 defenseman, a 4th liner and a pain-in-the-ass second tier offensive prospect for a prolific young sniper?

Yuck.

Those are Nuck proposals RIAL, get used to it..

Ironchef Chris Wok*

10-01-2003, 11:55 PM

Milan Hejduk, Martin Skoula, 1st round pick and 2nd round pick
for
Marian Gaborik and Brad Bombardir

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER. DING DING DING.

LALALALALALAFONTAINE

10-02-2003, 04:55 AM

Toronto : Gaborik & 2nd round pick
Minnesota : Green, Tucker, Reichel

This proposal is even funnier after the waiver protected lists came out.

LaVal

10-02-2003, 05:27 AM

Think about what you just said. If Buffalo gets Gaborik, there's no way those are top 5 picks. Gaborik-Drury-Satan would probably be one of the best top lines in the NHL. Just a thought.

my whole point is that Buffalo is giving up their shot at Crosby and Ovechkin... or at least what will be in all possibility top-5 picks in those 2 years. hense why i said it was overpayment by Buffalo.

even if i was talking about Minnesota gaining two top-5 picks:

IF Buffalo can even get Gaborik signed they are losing their top LW'er, leaving a 10 or 14 goal scorer in their top 6. they are losing 2 centers including their best defensive forward. and they are giving up 48 goals to gain 30.

sorry... Gaborik doesn't automatically make you a contender. obviously Gaborik is the guy you want to have around for your future. but look how much of their future Buffalo is giving up to get that.

LaVal

10-02-2003, 05:29 AM

Those are Nuck proposals RIAL, get used to it..

i don't enjoy being stereotyped. believe me there are many times everybody could just say "that's Modano=God, get used to it" but nobody does.

GKJ

10-02-2003, 05:56 AM

Datsyuk= or better than Gaborik. IMO.
Whoa. What?

Are you serious?

Datsyuk can't hold Gaborik's equipment bag. Just because he is a 20 something on the Red Wings roster doesn't make him a superstar of Gaborik's caliber.
The other offer...

Malik, Ruutu and Umberger for Gaborik and a 4th....

egads! Ruutu or Umberger aren't 50 goal scorers which is what they would have to be to include the other 2 guys in the deal.

Let's be serious now. No team will trade for Gaborik because they would severly overpay. Say if the Flyers were in the hunt. The Wild would accept nothing less than Pitkanen, Gagne or Williams and at least 2 first round draft picks and another prospect (Carter, Richards, Woywitka). Guess What..not happening, and it's not going to happen for any one else unless they're stupid.

aylib

10-02-2003, 06:31 AM

Whoa. What?

Are you serious?

Datsyuk can't hold Gaborik's equipment bag. Just because he is a 20 something on the Red Wings roster doesn't make him a superstar of Gaborik's caliber.
The other offer...

Malik, Ruutu and Umberger for Gaborik and a 4th....

egads! Ruutu or Umberger aren't 50 goal scorers which is what they would have to be to include the other 2 guys in the deal.

Let's be serious now. No team will trade for Gaborik because they would severly overpay. Say if the Flyers were in the hunt. The Wild would accept nothing less than Pitkanen, Gagne or Williams and at least 2 first round draft picks and another prospect (Carter, Richards, Woywitka). Guess What..not happening, and it's not going to happen for any one else unless they're stupid.
In my earlier post it says that having Shneider for a few years isnt worth exchanging Gaborik for Datsyuk. I hope you managed to read through this post.

Ozy_Flame

10-02-2003, 07:35 AM

I'll take a stab at it....

To Calgary: Marian Gaborik
To Minnesota: Jordan Leopold, Oleg Saprykin, 2004 1st round pick.

Minnesota gets the homecoming boy, land an ever-improving winger in Sappy, and scores (probably) a top-ten pick.

This is most definetely worth it to get Gaborik, as having Phaneuf would offset the loss of Leopold in the long-run, plus give a chance to one of Wallin, Commodore and Montador in a permanent position.

Gaborik - Conroy - Iginla
Mcammond - Reinprecht - Kobasew

Not bad for a top-six on a small market team!

aylib

10-02-2003, 07:43 AM

TehDoak

10-02-2003, 09:22 AM

my whole point is that Buffalo is giving up their shot at Crosby and Ovechkin... or at least what will be in all possibility top-5 picks in those 2 years. hense why i said it was overpayment by Buffalo.

even if i was talking about Minnesota gaining two top-5 picks:

IF Buffalo can even get Gaborik signed they are losing their top LW'er, leaving a 10 or 14 goal scorer in their top 6. they are losing 2 centers including their best defensive forward. and they are giving up 48 goals to gain 30.

sorry... Gaborik doesn't automatically make you a contender. obviously Gaborik is the guy you want to have around for your future. but look how much of their future Buffalo is giving up to get that.

I agree, Buffalo would have to pay a steep price, but think about it. #1. They would make the playoffs this year.
#2. They would have a franchise player that they could market
#3. They would actually still have a pretty good 2nd line....

Hecht-Briere-Dumont

Hecht is a solid 20 goal scorer (when healthy) and Pyatt could fill in if Hecht was traded. Mair can take over Brown's 3rd line spot. Buffalo wouldn't be as deep of a team, but they could fill any voids they have with the oodles of various UFAs available. Now, i don't think that Buffalo would be a Stanley Cup conteder, but i do think they could make it through a round or two in the playoffs.

Shark Attack

10-02-2003, 10:49 AM

i don't enjoy being stereotyped. believe me there are many times everybody could just say "that's Modano=God, get used to it" but nobody does.

I will say amen to that. Pun intended :joker:

Maithz

10-02-2003, 01:16 PM

To Minnesota : Perezhogin , Hainsey , 1st pick

To Montreal : Gaborik

Perezhogin is a 2nd line winger and can be a 1st line winger , Hainsey is a top offensive D-man + a 1st pick

Gaborik will play with one of his best friend Marcel Hossa.

Switch Hossa to center and Put Gaborik and Kastsitsyn on wings

Kastsitsyn - Hossa - Gaborik

:bow:

Don't take it serious guys I just make that for fun .

Malmo_Mike

10-02-2003, 01:55 PM

i don't enjoy being stereotyped. believe me there are many times everybody could just say "that's Modano=God, get used to it" but nobody does.
What are you talking about...I always say that when Modano=God posts ;)

Malmo_Mike

10-02-2003, 02:00 PM

I was just thinking, how about a Nashville/Wild trade. I saw this brought up in another thread and I changed it a little bit.

To Minnesota
Arkipov (sp?)
Hamhuis
3rd

To Nashville
Gaborik

Minnesota gets Arkipov who could become a very good scorer in this league and one of the top defensive prospects in the game. IMO he is going to be a top 2 defenceman.

Nashville gets Gaborik....enough said. Just Imagine Gaborik and Legwand on the same line, they would be a huge scoring threat and almost impossible to score on.

aylib

10-02-2003, 02:37 PM

Steve Latin*

10-02-2003, 03:46 PM

Pittsburgh / Minnesota

To Minnesota: Kraft, Abid, Straka, Sivek
To Pittsburgh: Gaborik

Minnesota gets a servicable replacement for Gaborik in Straka, as well as some good prospect depth in Sivek, Abid, and Kraft. Straka also only has two years left on his contract, so they may save some money after the CBA.

Pens move some of their depth prospects for one of the best young forwards in the game, an offensive player for the future that they are sorely lacking. They clear up some roster space at Wilkes-Barre and at the NHL level.

Here's a funny one:

To Minnesota: Pittsburgh's #1 pick 2004 entry draft, Abid
To Pittsburgh: Gaborik

Minny wagers that even with Gaborik, Pittsburgh has a chance to finish last. Abid makes the wager a little more enticing.

Just for fun, obviously.

S L

Malmo_Mike

10-02-2003, 07:29 PM

Why would they be almost impossible to score on?

Both Gaborik and Legwand are great defensively. They wouldn't be impossible to score on, but it would be much harder than say against a line that had Bertuzzi and Naslund on it.

aylib

10-03-2003, 01:38 AM

Both Gaborik and Legwand are great defensively. They wouldn't be impossible to score on, but it would be much harder than say against a line that had Bertuzzi and Naslund on it.
I wouldnt say that gaborik is great defensively, not even good, he is ok.

Malmo_Mike

10-03-2003, 01:31 PM

I wouldnt say that gaborik is great defensively, not even good, he is ok.
Damn you bubble bursters...fine Legwand would be great defensively and Gaborik would be ok. Are you happy now, I'm not even a fraction of the man I used to be thanks to all of you...there's only one thing that can cheer me up now...
:mad: Damn I was going to post that dancing banana but it's not here anymore. Now nothing can cheer me up

NJDevils#4

10-03-2003, 05:20 PM

Elias and 1st for Gaborik

Freudian

10-03-2003, 06:29 PM

Elias and 1st for Gaborik

Elias makes $4.7M which is more than Gaborik asks for in the first place.

aylib

10-03-2003, 07:37 PM

Damn you bubble bursters...fine Legwand would be great defensively and Gaborik would be ok. Are you happy now, I'm not even a fraction of the man I used to be thanks to all of you...there's only one thing that can cheer me up now...
:mad: Damn I was going to post that dancing banana but it's not here anymore. Now nothing can cheer me up
Think about Walz and Legwand on the same line: lots of speed and defensive awareness. Happy now? :p