Edmonton-Pittsburgh proposal

This will be my last Comrie proposal till he is traded ya- ya I know.. :handclap: :handclap: :D
k Pittsburgh has a large supply of good young prospects especially defensive ones which Edmonton would like to pick up. Pittsburgh would really benefit from Comrie who could lead the second line behind Mario or could play #1 center if Mario wants to take LW, Comrie is still quite young and could be a pivotal part of the Pittsburgh org. long after Mario retires.

1)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
4th pick 2004

To Edm:
Ramzi Abid(power forward)
Ross Lupaschuk(offensive defense man, Edmonton kid)

2)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
Cory Cross(vet d responsible, positive plus-minus last 4 years)
Jason Chimera(allows Pittsburgh to have the two fastest skaters in the league and corner the market)
4th pick 2004(too much?)

To Edm:
Ryan Whitney(great defensive prospect-think Pronger)
1st pick 2004(I expect it would be a good chance at Ovechkin :D )

3)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
3rd pick/Chimera/Cross

To Edm:
Brooks Orpik(great defensive prospect-think Smith)
Ben Eaves(small playmaking forward)


k u know the drill let me have it. Like the first one best.

the first one is the most realistic, the other two are just dreams...

In all of those trades the Pens would be taking on salary, so that eliminates all of them.

In all of those trades the Pens would be taking on salary, so that eliminates all of them.
are they that tight. does it need to be perfectly balanced or can they take on about a million?

How bout something like this:

Pens get:
F Mike Comrie
1st round pick

Oilers get:
F Milan Kraft
F Eric Meloche

Pens get top flight forward. Oilers get former first round pick, and a great penalty killer that could make it in the NHL. Just look at Meloche's stats from the games he played last year with the Pens.

are they that tight. does it need to be perfectly balanced or can they take on about a million?

yes, they are. They were looking to unload Straka before Fleury came along.

How bout something like this:

Pens get:
F Mike Comrie
1st round pick

Oilers get:
F Milan Kraft
F Eric Meloche

Pens get top flight forward. Oilers get former first round pick, and a great penalty killer that could make it in the NHL. Just look at Meloche's stats from the games he played last year with the Pens.

better delete that quick. Keaft and Meloche couldn't get Edmonton's 1st, much less Comrie.

better delete that quick. Kraft and Meloche wouldn't get Comrie or their 1st by themselves.

Well, how bout I throw in Vancouver's 2nd pick, and another 4th round pick?

better delete that quick. Kraft and Meloche wouldn't get Comrie or Edmonton's 1st independent of each other.
yes truly putrid we have many 4th liners who can kill penalties and Kraft is on the brink of bustville

Are all of you on crack? You must be to be posting these proposals for Comrie. They're horrid. Not one of them is even remotely close to getting Comrie.

To Pittsburgh: Mike Comrie

To Edmonton: Kris Beech and Brooks Orpik or Ryan Whitney

In all of those trades the Pens would be taking on salary, so that eliminates all of them.

Bingo.

The last thing the Penguins want to do right now is add an RFA who wants big money to their plans.

yes, they are. They were looking to unload Straka before Fleury came along.
Man everyone on this team is a rookie or a player who is a cheap rent-a-player and Straka is a little pricey and old for Edmonton and I am sure Mario does not want to trade himself.

try again ugh...

To Edm:
Tarnstrom(1.1million)
Lupaschuck(0.35million I think)
Abid(0.45million)
Beech(0.35million I think)

To Pits:
Comrie(guess $2.4million)
1st pick 2004

u r $150,000 poorer man I don't like the looks of that trade at all oh well tell me what u think about it

To Pittsburgh: Mike Comrie

To Edmonton: Kris Beech and Brooks Orpik or Ryan Whitney
They would take on about $1.6million in salary so they could not do it and I guess they don't want to give away their top d prospects at all even though they can't afford either past their first contract by the looks of their budget

Whitney and Orpik are staying. The first one is not bad, but Edmonton likes players who can skate fast, and Abid is FAR from that.

are they that tight. does it need to be perfectly balanced or can they take on about a million?

Yes, they are that tight right now. For example, MA Fleury has pretty much made the team, but the Pens might not even be able to afford to sign him to a contract. If they may not be able to afford a player who has never even played in the NHL, I highly doubt they will be able to afford Mike Comrie. By the way, I think Comrie's contract will be worth more than $2.4 million, probably with incentives it could be quite a bit more.

Whitney and Orpik are staying. The first one is not bad, but Edmonton likes players who can skate fast, and Abid is FAR from that.
wouldn't u still be taking on too much $$$$ maybe we should just trade prospects cause I think Comrie is outside the budget unless u can dump Straka

Edmonton likes players who can skate fast, and Abid is FAR from that.
:dunno:

Yes, they are that tight right now. For example, MA Fleury has pretty much made the team, but the Pens might not even be able to afford to sign him to a contract. If they may not be able to afford a player who has never even played in the NHL, I highly doubt they will be able to afford Mike Comrie. By the way, I think Comrie's contract will be worth more than $2.4 million, probably with incentives it could be quite a bit more.
Comries contract really depends on terms of length hes willing to sign for near $2million for one year till he gets arbitration rights but if u want long term(3-5yrs.) I'd guess about 3-5.5million without bonuses.

Comrie is really getting overrated fast.

He's good but you want Whitney and a possible Ovechkin for him(and crap)?

The first trade is doable though. Besides that one the only one I'd do would be Straka for Comrie, which I highly doubt Edmonton would do.

Comrie is really getting overrated fast.

He's good but you want Whitney and a possible Ovechkin for him(and crap)?

The first trade is doable though. Besides that one the only one I'd do would be Straka for Comrie, which I highly doubt Edmonton would do.
propose something instead of running you mouth

He did....Straka for Comrie

He did....Straka for Comrie
thats not a trade its a salary dump and I already said Straka is too expensive for us and Edmonton likes to keep the forwards age under 30

propose something instead of running you mouth

Why bother?

No way Orpik, Whitney, or our first round pick for next year are going anywhere.

Koltsov stays to in my mind mainly because Mario likes him so much.

Kraft, Beech, and Abid would all be available.

No way Orpik, Whitney, or our first round pick for next year are going anywhere.

Koltsov stays to in my mind mainly because Mario likes him so much.

Kraft, Beech, and Abid would all be available.
Would Lupaschuck be availabe I am quite interested in him. I like Abid's style and wouldn't mind him but as someone already said he might be too slow for Oilers.Although we have a gap in center Kraft is only moderately interesting but I would be interested to see what Beech could do here. Since Comrie is out of your budget can u think of any other possible trades involving one of these players? maybe a pick and a young forward?

I think a deal for Comrie with the Pens would be impossible. The Pens won't give up any top talent for him(orpik, whitney, 1st rounder) and that's what it'll take.

I think a deal for Comrie with the Pens would be impossible. The Pens won't give up any top talent for him(orpik, whitney, 1st rounder) and that's what it'll take.
Yes let's toss Comrie to the side for the moment. Since u have so much talent in defensive prospects lets make a trade for one of the less promising prospect like Lupaschunk or Welch.

Mario was interested in Chimera before and tried trading us Lang for him so how about

To Edm:
Lupaschunk(gives Edmonton offensive d-man+defensive depth and will probably get lost in the shuffle when Whitney and Orpik break the line-up)

To Pens:
Chimera(fastest man in hockey would make a scary line with Koltsov also nice scoring touch)

I think they are pretty even thought about throwing a 4th pick on each side at different times but just wasn't sure.

Yes let's toss Comrie to the side for the moment. Since u have so much talent in defensive prospects lets make a trade for one of the less promising prospect like Lupaschunk or Welch.

Mario was interested in Chimera before and tried trading us Lang for him so how about

To Edm:
Lupaschunk(gives Edmonton offensive d-man+defensive depth and will probably get lost in the shuffle when Whitney and Orpik break the line-up)

To Pens:
Chimera(fastest man in hockey would make a scary line with Koltsov also nice scoring touch)

I think they are pretty even thought about throwing a 4th pick on each side at different times but just wasn't sure.

I'd consider that deal. The Pens are stacked with young d-men ... Whitney, Welch, Orpik, Melichar (if he's ever healthy), Rozsival (ditto). You can always find room on your roster for a player with blinding speed.

But, is he just fast, or can he think the game at that speed? I'll admit, I've been intrigued by him ever since someone mentioned that he is as fast, or faster, than Koltsov.

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I'd consider that deal. The Pens are stacked with young d-men ... Whitney, Welch, Orpik, Melichar (if he's ever healthy), Rozsival (ditto). You can always find room on your roster for a player with blinding speed.

But, is he just fast, or can he think the game at that speed? I'll admit, I've been intrigued by him ever since someone mentioned that he is as fast, or faster, than Koltsov.

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Well hes lighting the lamp quite often, only played 66games(rookie season) for us last year with limited 4th line minutes and netted 14goals there has been talk about promoting him to our second line but their is many other players vying for the job. If he got 2nd line minutes I'd guess him for 25 maybe more goals a year (scored two goals tonight in pre-season).

I'd consider that deal. The Pens are stacked with young d-men ... Whitney, Welch, Orpik, Melichar (if he's ever healthy), Rozsival (ditto). You can always find room on your roster for a player with blinding speed.

But, is he just fast, or can he think the game at that speed? I'll admit, I've been intrigued by him ever since someone mentioned that he is as fast, or faster, than Koltsov.

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He is great... Scorred 2 tonight. I could easily see him hitting 20+ this year with enough ice time. Great hands, fair size, hits, and broke the lap record last year in the Oilers skills competition.

However, I personally would like to keep Chimera for a bit longer on the Oil. I see imense potential in him. Really. Put him on a line with York and Hemsky and just watch them fly...

This will be my last Comrie proposal till he is traded ya- ya I know.. :handclap: :handclap: :D
k Pittsburgh has a large supply of good young prospects especially defensive ones which Edmonton would like to pick up. Pittsburgh would really benefit from Comrie who could lead the second line behind Mario or could play #1 center if Mario wants to take LW, Comrie is still quite young and could be a pivotal part of the Pittsburgh org. long after Mario retires.

1)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
4th pick 2004

To Edm:
Ramzi Abid(power forward)
Ross Lupaschuk(offensive defense man, Edmonton kid)

2)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
Cory Cross(vet d responsible, positive plus-minus last 4 years)
Jason Chimera(allows Pittsburgh to have the two fastest skaters in the league and corner the market)
4th pick 2004(too much?)

To Edm:
Ryan Whitney(great defensive prospect-think Pronger)
1st pick 2004(I expect it would be a good chance at Ovechkin :D )

3)To Pens:
Mike Comrie
3rd pick/Chimera/Cross

To Edm:
Brooks Orpik(great defensive prospect-think Smith)
Ben Eaves(small playmaking forward)


k u know the drill let me have it. Like the first one best.

ive been putting up abid proposals for the past 3 weeks man. nice to see someone finally back me up.

ive been putting up abid proposals for the past 3 weeks man. nice to see someone finally back me up.
I was against getting more LW since were SO stacked but had a change of heart because of what I see his potential being versus his general perception currently

How bout something like this:

Pens get:
F Mike Comrie
1st round pick

Oilers get:
F Milan Kraft
F Eric Meloche

Pens get top flight forward. Oilers get former first round pick, and a great penalty killer that could make it in the NHL. Just look at Meloche's stats from the games he played last year with the Pens.

Dude dont unbutton your shirt or your heart will fall out.

The answers a resounding NO!

I don't know much about Abid but every analysis i've heard about him ends with "he's not the quickest skater". I don't think the Oilers have a need for Abid with guys like Isbister, Moreau and Torres here already.. Beech, Whitney or Orpik on the other hand would look great.. :)

I'll have to agree w/ Cerebral.

If Comrie is dealt, Lowe should not be looking at a guy like Abid as the centerpiece of a trade. The Oil already have enough "power" and depth on the left w/ Smyth, Isbister, Moreau and Torres. The only guy I would make an exception here for would be Hartnell.

As far as Beech and Kraft are concerned, I'd also pass. Beech may turn out to be a player, but I don't like the looks of Kraft at all. This guy's had a lot of shots (just like Rita), and just can't seem to make his game match his talent.

...I don't like any of these proposals from an Oil perspective. Abid would be redundant and the others too risky for Edmonton (for a guy like Comrie).

I'll have to agree w/ Cerebral.

If Comrie is dealt, Lowe should not be looking at a guy like Abid as the centerpiece of a trade. The Oil already have enough "power" and depth on the left w/ Smyth, Isbister, Moreau and Torres. The only guy I would make an exception here for would be Hartnell.

As far as Beech and Kraft are concerned, I'd also pass. Beech may turn out to be a player, but I don't like the looks of Kraft at all. This guy's had a lot of shots (just like Rita), and just can't seem to make his game match his talent.

...I don't like any of these proposals from an Oil perspective. Abid would be redundant and the others too risky for Edmonton (for a guy like Comrie).
How has Rita had a lot of shots hes played 13 games and actually played pretty well in those games where as Kraft has played 141. Ya I know hes always a front runner in every camp and MacT gives him every chance to play himself on or off the team, but he's only 22 and sometimes u just need to throw a guy into the NHL and see if they can sink or swim. We put Marty up on waivers last year but once he got a little real in game action he rose to the occasion hopefully Rita will be the same just let him play the first quarter of the season in Hamilton and call him up I bet u he'll come through for us he's still got two years left before I start using the bust word.

Don't get me wrong, Butcher. I'm a Rita fan. Just can't figure this guy out. At age 22 Rita should be showing more than glimmers of the talent he has. He has LOST his position on the Oil the last two camps and was even demoted to the 4th line in Hamilton last year (and I'm not buying the lingering injury report).

I don't want to give up on Rita for two reasons: one, he could burn us more than a Cleary could. Second, his trade value has plummeted since he was drafted. Rita should be given a full time roster position to start the season. He has shown in the past that he can be a sulker. Being "sent down" doesn't seem to motivate him (quite the opposite actually). So let's play it Rita's way. MacT should give him 25 games from the offset. If he doesn't perform...personally I will have had enough.

Don't get me wrong, Butcher. I'm a Rita fan. Just can't figure this guy out. At age 22 Rita should be showing more than glimmers of the talent he has. He has LOST his position on the Oil the last two camps and was even demoted to the 4th line in Hamilton last year (and I'm not buying the lingering injury report).

I don't want to give up on Rita for two reasons: one, he could burn us more than a Cleary could. Second, his trade value has plummeted since he was drafted. Rita should be given a full time roster position to start the season. He has shown in the past that he can be a sulker. Being "sent down" doesn't seem to motivate him (quite the opposite actually). So let's play it Rita's way. MacT should give him 25 games from the offset. If he doesn't perform...personally I will have had enough.
I totally agree with u in that he has been putting up a lacklustre effort and all that I just don't want to give up on Rita yet and felt comparing him to Kraft was just slightly pre-mature but I am slowly starting to feel the same way. Let's hope he proves us dead wrong this season for ever doubting