Game thread: 10/04/03 - Bruins vs Rangers - 4pm - NESN/WBZ1030

HockeyGoddess
10-04-2003, 02:13 AM
Boston Bruins vs NY Rangers
FleetCenter, Boston, MA
4:00pm - NESN/WBZ-1030AM

Talk about it here.

Pielsman
10-04-2003, 04:38 AM
Am I to understand that this one is on NESN ? Thanks, Piels

Magnus Fulgur
10-04-2003, 05:48 AM
It officially says on my COMCAST (grrrrr, I hate that company: deregulation isn't good) interactive viewing guide says "4:00 Preseason NHL Hockey" Woooooo-hooooooo.

Gee Wally
10-04-2003, 10:13 AM
all I know is that I'm damn ready to watch some Bruins hockey...


:handclap:


Gonna light the fireplace...crack a Killians... order a pizza...

simple ...but beautiful....

:D

JimmyV
10-04-2003, 10:31 AM
all I know is that I'm damn ready to watch some Bruins hockey...


:handclap:


Gonna light the fireplace...crack a Killians... order a pizza...

simple ...but beautiful....

:D


my wife went out w/ the ladies....I'm eating oreo's and milk right now, and I'm in the last half hour of killing off 8 hours since I woke!

I can't wait to see Samsanov buzz all over the ice!...Jillson...oh nellie!!

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 10:52 AM
Finally: Hockey!!!!!

#37-#93-#27*
10-04-2003, 11:03 AM
Good luck guys. You're gonna need it. ;)

(j/k)

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:06 AM
Green is playing...Potvin in net...Boynton is playing....

pblc
10-04-2003, 11:09 AM
I don't get NESN.......and NHL Centre Ice isn't carrying the game. I can only get 1030 on the radio at night. Please tell me there is an internet broadcast of the game.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:10 AM
Huml is playing with Joe and Murray...

JOHNNY V
10-04-2003, 11:11 AM
FINALLY THE BEST TIME OF THE YEAR HAS ARRIVED :handclap:

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:15 AM
Score nedved...Potvin went down early...Bergeron lost his man...

Gator Mike
10-04-2003, 11:16 AM
The kid finally made a mistake. Bergeron loses Nedved and allows him to walk into the slot where he beats Potvin with a wrist shot high to the blocker side.

1-0 New York.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:18 AM
Juricna looks a little lost out there...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:24 AM
2 very nice saves by Potvin keeps it 1-0 NYR....

Magnus Fulgur
10-04-2003, 11:28 AM
Bergeron lost his man because Jurcina lost the whole play. McGillis was useless on that too. Don't blame Patrice! Milan's going to be eatin' a lot of pasta on Atwells Ave this year.

Also: Huml looks terrible. He and Jurcina are the worst players on the ice. Jurcina is looking at his stick while he handles in open ice!

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:33 AM
[QUOTE=wickedbsfan]Bergeron lost his man because Jurcina lost the whole play. McGillis was useless on that too. QUOTE]



This is true: but Bergeon also lost his man(nedved) who had time and space to fire the puck in the net...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:36 AM
Great hit by McCarthy...

JOHNNY V
10-04-2003, 11:39 AM
Great hit by McCarthy...


WAS THAT MCILLNESS WHO THREW THAT HIT
:confused: :lol:

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:40 AM
1-0 NYR....Shots 11-7 NYR...No Penalties...

JOHNNY V
10-04-2003, 11:48 AM
MAN WITH ALL THAT MONEY DO YOU THINK JJ COULD BUY A GOOD HAIRPIECE :p

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:48 AM
Also: Huml looks terrible. He and Jurcina are the worst players on the ice. Jurcina is looking at his stick while he handles in open ice!


Totally agree here: Huml looks way out of place playing with Joe and Murray...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:50 AM
MAN WITH ALL THAT MONEY DO YOU THINK JJ COULD BUY A GOOD HAIRPIECE :p
:lol:

bostontrevor
10-04-2003, 11:51 AM
Wow. JJ should never have agreed to this interview. He comes off greedy, evasive, and uninterested in the sport.

Of course worse, it's probably the Bruins organization that asked for time to talk about the CBA.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 11:59 AM
Penalty on Pureinton for holding up Knuble...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:03 PM
Huml was stuffed on a break-away...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:05 PM
Huml got a penalty for roughing...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:10 PM
Jillson is going for a cross-check...

SPV
10-04-2003, 12:11 PM
Can't watch the game, but with all these penalties, sounds very similar to last year.

bostontrevor
10-04-2003, 12:12 PM
I realize that this is a preseason game, but I don't really see anything that makes me terribly hopeful for the regular season.

Some individuals out there are looking good, but I don't see a good team package. I guess we'll see on Wednesday.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:15 PM
Holik going for tripping up donato...

neelynugs
10-04-2003, 12:16 PM
I realize that this is a preseason game, but I don't really see anything that makes me terribly hopeful for the regular season.

Some individuals out there are looking good, but I don't see a good team package. I guess we'll see on Wednesday.

can you elaborate on this? i was wondering who is doing well and who isn't. thanks- it sucks not being able to watch :dunno:

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:26 PM
Penalty on Tutin(sp) for a Cross-check...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:28 PM
After 2

Score 1-0 NYR...Shots 19-18 B's...PP B's 0-2 NYR 0-2...Much better period...

bostontrevor
10-04-2003, 12:28 PM
I guess mostly it's just that they don't seem to be connecting or communicating well. Lots of bad timing and I don't see anybody really pressing to the net. They just seem rusty and that's a little bothersome given that the regular season is just around the corner.

I've liked Bergeron despite losing his man on that goal. He plays a tight defense but it works for him for the most part. He just needs to be sure to keep good body position.

Likewise, Axelsson is putting out the level of effort that you'd expect.

It sounds like the 2nd has been better, but I spent most of the 2nd on the phone, so maybe I just need to pay closer attention. ;)

SPV
10-04-2003, 12:29 PM
can you elaborate on this? i was wondering who is doing well and who isn't. thanks- it sucks not being able to watch :dunno:
Agreed, it sucks being stuck at work with now access to NESN, or internet radio. This site is my only life line to sports today.

Looks like there are just as many penalties on the NYR, never mind my earlier observation. I'm just hopeful that the B's are a little more disciplined this season.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:31 PM
[QUOTE=bostontrevor]

I've liked Bergeron despite losing his man on that goal. He plays a tight defense but it works for him for the most part. He just needs to be sure to keep good body position.
QUOTE]



I too think he has played well: just that one mistake...He looks like a player IMO...Potvin has played very well also...

#37-#93-#27*
10-04-2003, 12:33 PM
Samsonov looks real good out there probably your best player. Both goaltenders are really the only guys standing out for either team (except for Samsonov).

Green and Jillson are looking good as well.

Kind of a slow second period, seems as if both teams are playing like it is the last preseason game, not surprising.

Wpg Jets
10-04-2003, 12:34 PM
I wpuld have to say that Felix has looked good with the exception of the Goal. but than again is was right from the slot. Dunham has been solid! Is this our opening night lineup?

Dabruins
10-04-2003, 12:45 PM
What are the line combo's in the game???
Can someone who gets NESN and is watching the game elaborate a little more on whats happening? i really wish i could see them!!

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:47 PM
What are the line combo's in the game???
Can someone who gets NESN and is watching the game elaborate a little more on whats happening? i really wish i could see them!!


Lines: Huml, Joe, Murray
Sammy, Rolston, Knuble
Bergeron, Green, Axelsson
McCarty, Samuelsson, Donato


D Boynton, O'Donnell
Gill, Jillison
Juricna, McGillis

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 12:56 PM
Penalty on Nedved for Hooking down Knuble...B's are 0-3 on the PP...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 01:02 PM
Interference on Mironov...5th PP for the B's...

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 01:05 PM
Score rushinsky(sp) on a short-handed breakaway...2-0 NYR...SCORE JILLISON ON A GREAT SPIN MOVE AND WRIST SHOT...ASSISTED BY MURRAY AND SAMSONOV...2-1 NYR

#37-#93-#27*
10-04-2003, 01:07 PM
Sloppy play by the Bruins on the SH goal by Rucisnky, great move and shot by Jillson for the goal. Looks like you guys got a real stud there.

usmhuskies
10-04-2003, 01:21 PM
Final Stats

Score 2-1 NYR...Shots NYR 26 B's 25...PP B's 1-5 NYR 0-2...

HockeyGoddess
10-04-2003, 01:51 PM
Disappointing loss, but there were some good things that happened.

The move by Jillson on his goal was very impressive! He played a pretty decent game overall (one of the brighter spots on D throughout the game). He had a couple nice hits, too.

It was great seeing Samsonov healthy again and zipping around like the waterbug he is.

It was good to see Boynton back and skating, although you could tell his timing was a bit off. I hope he gets his timing back again soon (I imagine he will).

Green fared pretty well overall. I was surprised to see him in the line-up, but happily so.

Loved Sandy McCarthy's big old hit on Mike Siklenka... wonder if Siklenka is still searching for his brain. :)

The Bruins played MUCH better in the second period than they did in the first period.

Good job by Sean O'Donnell giving Bouchard (I think it was him anyway) a shot to the head after he had popped Boynton a couple times as time ran out in regulation.

Can we trade Potvin for Dunham? :)

It seemed to me that as the game wore on, Thornton looked more and more like he was mailing it in.

I don't like Samsonov on a wing with Rolston. I don't like Murray on the point during the power play.

If anyone finds stats on this game, please post the link. I'd love to see the faceoff percentage for the guys today.

3B
10-04-2003, 01:56 PM
Face off Stats:
http://www2.nhl.com/onthefly/scoreboard/htmlreports/FC010114.HTM

HockeyGoddess
10-04-2003, 01:56 PM
Never mind about the stats... found them on nhl.com.

Not terribly impressive overall, although I was glad to see that Joe T. was over 50% for a change.

HockeyGoddess
10-04-2003, 01:58 PM
Face off Stats:
http://www2.nhl.com/onthefly/scoreboard/htmlreports/FC010114.HTM

*grin* Thanks for posting the link. I found 'em there too. :) Wasn't sure if nhl.com would have them since they didn't have game stats for the last pre-season game or so.

Bruwinz37
10-04-2003, 02:01 PM
Here are my thoughts on the game.

Overall I am not upset at the way they played. I saw a lot of good things, and I saw some vets going through the motions of a final preseason game.

Forwards-Let me start with Bergeron.....wow do I like this kid. He was probably our best defensive forward and made some nice feeds too. Played with a guy he probably didnt even know until this morning. I cant ever remember seeing an 18 year old with this much hockey sense. He will only get better with consistent linemates and I dont see how he hurt his chances today at all.

Joe Thornton....went through the motions...if this was a regular season game I would be pissed, but it isnt, so whatever.

Murray looked a step slow tonight, but no big deal either. Had some nice opportunities.

Huml-tough call, but I think he created a lot and needs more confidence in order to succeed...a quicker first step wouldnt hurt either, but he made some nice plays and didnt look that out of place.

Travis Green-about what I expected. He will be a solid addition

Axelsson...mode of consistency. Always know what you are going to get.

Samsonov-unbelievable. As Gordie astutely pointed out he and Rolston go together like oil and water. There needs to be a change.

Knuble- see Axelsson. Will have another good year.

Martin Samuelsson-I thought he had a good game. He wont make the team, but he should go to Prov with the sole intent on working on finishing his chances. Good wheels, likes to take the body...at worst he will be a good third liner.

McCarthy..great big hit, did everything else he was supposed to and showed a nice wrister when he got his chance.

Donato-will be in Providence...with our depth at forward he wont cut it.

Defenseman

Jillson....far and away the best defenseman tonight. This kid looks like he finally gets it. Great offensive play for the goal, but I was more impressed by his overall game.

McGillis...solid game, made some nice rushes with the puck, but did it smartly.

Jurcina....I thought he was good. Made a mistake on the 1st goal, but overall he played well. I can certainly see him progressing in Providence and being one of the first call ups. He made a lot of nice smart, simple plays instead of trying to do too much. Very encouraging.

OD --solid....unspectacular. When he plays a nice quiet game like that you know he did his job

Boynton--looked a step behind, but not bad at all.

Gill-See OD.

Bruwinz37
10-04-2003, 02:03 PM
Here are my thoughts on the game.

Overall I am not upset at the way they played. I saw a lot of good things, and I saw some vets going through the motions of a final preseason game.

Forwards-Let me start with Bergeron.....wow do I like this kid. He was probably our best defensive forward and made some nice feeds too. Played with a guy he probably didnt even know until this morning. I cant ever remember seeing an 18 year old with this much hockey sense. He will only get better with consistent linemates and I dont see how he hurt his chances today at all.

Joe Thornton....went through the motions...if this was a regular season game I would be pissed, but it isnt, so whatever.

Murray looked a step slow tonight, but no big deal either. Had some nice opportunities.

Huml-tough call, but I think he created a lot and needs more confidence in order to succeed...a quicker first step wouldnt hurt either, but he made some nice plays and didnt look that out of place.

Travis Green-about what I expected. He will be a solid addition

Axelsson...mode of consistency. Always know what you are going to get.

Samsonov-unbelievable. As Gordie astutely pointed out he and Rolston go together like oil and water. There needs to be a change.

Knuble- see Axelsson. Will have another good year.

Martin Samuelsson-I thought he had a good game. He wont make the team, but he should go to Prov with the sole intent on working on finishing his chances. Good wheels, likes to take the body...at worst he will be a good third liner.

McCarthy..great big hit, did everything else he was supposed to and showed a nice wrister when he got his chance.

Donato-will be in Providence...with our depth at forward he wont cut it.

Defenseman

Jillson....far and away the best defenseman tonight. This kid looks like he finally gets it. Great offensive play for the goal, but I was more impressed by his overall game.

McGillis...solid game, made some nice rushes with the puck, but did it smartly.

Jurcina....I thought he was good. Made a mistake on the 1st goal, but overall he played well. I can certainly see him progressing in Providence and being one of the first call ups. He made a lot of nice smart, simple plays instead of trying to do too much. Very encouraging.

OD --solid....unspectacular. When he plays a nice quiet game like that you know he did his job

Boynton--looked a step behind, but not bad at all.

Gill-See OD.

Potvin-very good, but no matter how many people want to place blame on Begeron or Jurcina on that first goal it was a goal that shoulda been stopped. He was far too deep in his crease and went down faster than Jenna Jamison on a movie set.

3B
10-04-2003, 02:05 PM
*grin* Thanks for posting the link. I found 'em there too. :) Wasn't sure if nhl.com would have them since they didn't have game stats for the last pre-season game or so.

You're welcome. I figured someone would beat me to it. My typing skills leave a little to be desired. :dunno:

DBL
10-04-2003, 02:15 PM
GG overall but I don't think the lines today worked out. Huml played an alright game on the top line, but he's not a good fit with Joe and Murray, that's clear. I think a banger would be best with Joe and Murray... Lapointe? I would try it when he gets back.

The Rolston, Sammy, Knuble line didn't work out either. I find that Sammy and Knuble can work fine together, but Rolston and Sammy don't mix. If Bergeron is indeed staying I wouldn't mind seeing him between Sammy and Knuble has Bergeron looks to have much better instincts and playmaking skills.

I would stick Rolston back has the 3rd line center and have Axelsson/Green has the wingers with Green taking all the important faceoffs.

McCarthy played not bad, he should have a spot on the 4th line. Beautiful hit he had in the game today...

Lines on opening night...

Thornton - Murray, Zamuner/Huml/Hilbert/Zino - until Lapointe gets back
Bergeron - Sammy, Knuble
Rolston - Green, Axelsson
Stock/Grosek - McCarthy, Zamuner

I see that has the best lines, if Bergeron does go back to Jr., I hope Zino will be given the chance to preform.

And the defence looks pretty good. Jillson looks like he's got plenty of skill, and confidence is the only thing standing in this guy's way to breakout and become a stud D-man. Juricna looked out of place abit, he's solid out there but doesn't have the experience so he makes positional mistakes. He could learn on the spot, but it would cost the Bruins some goals.

Boynton looked good for his first game, timing was the only problem with him. McGillis is overall a good d-man, steady defence, and likes to lug the puck up myself abit, and does it quite nicely. Gill and O'donnell were Gill and O'donnell, good to see.

Potvin was alright but that first goal should have been stopped, way too far in his crease and went down way too early. The rest he was good and it was good to see.

Wpg Jets
10-04-2003, 02:23 PM
I think jillson was our best d-man
and Sammy was our best forward.
I don't like Huml with Joe and Muzz. i think we should move sammy there.
Potvin was too deep on the goal but, was solid after that. At no point did I get that sick feeling I always had with Shields and grahame, And Hacket that a weak odd angle goal was going to beat him. He's looks way more comfy now and I expect him and Rzor to have a great relationship and therefore a great season together as our goalers!!!
As my buddy bugs bunny once said" On with the show this is it!" :rolly: :rolly:

DKH
10-04-2003, 02:34 PM
I have changed my tune and agree with many posters, Gordie and friends- Samsonov and Rolston is a bad idea. I'd say screw it and put Sammy back with Joe and Murray and here's why: Joe is like a week in October all in the course of one game. He can appear disinterested, he can dominate, and he can bring make Murray or somewhat nulify him when Joe's on cruise control like he was today. BUT you put Samsonov on that line and you have electricity- he brings Joe with him. Look at the production the first 8 games last year when they all played predominantly together. Joe and Sammy feed of each other and Murray eats up rebounds and open feeds when defenseman and forwards are running around and trying to stop Sammy and Joe. Murray finds an opening, camps out and sooner or later one of these guys find him and wham.....

OK, whats the second line? How about 6 or 7 forwards capable of chipping in with anywhere from 15-25 goals. Bergeron can center Green and Knuble and Rolston can have Ax and Lapointe when he returns. Certainly not outrageous but not chopped liver. Both Knuble and Rolston have had 30 goal seasons within past 2 years and Lapointe, Ax, Green all are capable of between 12-20 goals and good team play. who knows what the kid will do but geez he looks so good- why the heck not.

JimmyV
10-04-2003, 03:32 PM
I have changed my tune and agree with many posters, Gordie and friends- Samsonov and Rolston is a bad idea. I'd say screw it and put Sammy back with Joe and Murray and here's why: Joe is like a week in October all in the course of one game. He can appear disinterested, he can dominate, and he can bring make Murray or somewhat nulify him when Joe's on cruise control like he was today. BUT you put Samsonov on that line and you have electricity- he brings Joe with him. Look at the production the first 8 games last year when they all played predominantly together. Joe and Sammy feed of each other and Murray eats up rebounds and open feeds when defenseman and forwards are running around and trying to stop Sammy and Joe. Murray finds an opening, camps out and sooner or later one of these guys find him and wham.....

OK, whats the second line? How about 6 or 7 forwards capable of chipping in with anywhere from 15-25 goals. Bergeron can center Green and Knuble and Rolston can have Ax and Lapointe when he returns. Certainly not outrageous but not chopped liver. Both Knuble and Rolston have had 30 goal seasons within past 2 years and Lapointe, Ax, Green all are capable of between 12-20 goals and good team play. who knows what the kid will do but geez he looks so good- why the heck not.


I was of the mindset to have Samsonov on the second line for balance, but really.....especially after watching this game and like DKH says...Sammy, Joe and Muzz were dominate last year in the first 6 games!

I'm not a big Huml fan...I think he tries hard, but lacks the speed and strength to compete at the NHL level....

Let's stop the experiment. But Sammy with Joe and Murray, and put Axellson w/ Rolston with Lapointe. That way you have 2 of the 3 lines you need to win on any given night. The B's have more than enough capable 4th line guys w/ McCarthy, Stock, Grosek, Donato, etc.

I'm a little worried about the offense this year....the Green pick up looks like a godsend.

I'd rather spend the 1.5 million dollars earmarked toward Berard on a forward.

CombatOnContact
10-04-2003, 04:26 PM
just curious...

what did Samsonov and Rolston do that makes everyone say they don't go well together?

BostonGrl819
10-04-2003, 04:27 PM
I went to the game today, and thought I'd share my observations...I am by no means an expert, but here goes:

Thornton-played like his mind was somewhere else, and seemed to focus more on his breathing than on making good plays (he was breathing like a woman in labor for awhile...I thought it was strange :dunno: ). I remember one pass he made that was totally off-he received quite a few boos for that.

Potvin-played well. The first goal seemed soft, but I was at the other end of the ice so I could be wrong.

Huml-still not physical enough, but he's a great skater.

Samuelsson-belongs in Providence. Not physical enough either.

Donato-belongs in Providence...somebody near me yelled "Hey Ted, how does Providence sound?" or something to that effect at some point....

Gill-played well. He gets bonus points for almost fighting. :D

Bergeron-like others have said, he knows where he's supposed to be on the ice. He didn't do anything too spectacular imo but I think he deserves at least 10 games in Boston.

McCarthy-played ok, nice shoulder hit that knocked the Rag on the ice and made him helmet fall off. He tripped Donato at one point, but that pass from behind the net afterwards made up for it. Too bad the Bs were all skating the other way.

Jillson-GREAT game from him. I don't blame him for that cross-checking penalty-it looked like that guy boarded him. He wasn't afraid to stand up to him-I was hoping he'd fight the guy later. That goal of his was a beauty, too! I think he deserves a spot in Boston. I was very impressed by him tonight.

Murray-too bad his stick broke during that one chance. I think that one would have tied things up. He didn't seem to start playing until the Rags were up 2-0. Then again, few on the team seemed to perk up until that point either.

Overall, the forwards were passing WAY too much, especially Sammy and Joe. I think Knuble belongs back on the first line, and Axie and Rolly need to be reunited. I was really disappointed that Stock wasn't playing, too-I thought Donato was pretty bad tonight. The D played pretty well though Boynton wasn't 100%. We started chanting "fight, fight, fight" at the end of the game when the melee broke out. Seemed like OD and Boynts were willing to go, too bad the refs broke it off.

(I took some pictures during the game. I can post them late tomorrow or sometime on Monday if it's ok with the mods. :) )

TheBigBadB
10-04-2003, 05:38 PM
Not a bad game, both teams were off, and you can tell it was preseason...

Thornton - mailed it in today..there was at least 3 times I saw that he could have took it to the net..but pretty boyed it instead...This concerns me because he is still inconsistent..Let's hope he decides to show up in the regular season..All his talent, and I wish he had the heart of a Yzerman...

Murray - See Thornton...

Huml - Man. I cant believe how people get on this kids case time and time again..Not physical enough?? He was the only one on that line that would chase the puck when it was dumped into the zone, and got a penalty for roughing (maybe its his baby face that make people believe he is not tough?)...Yeah he had a little trouble with Thornton and Murray, because he's new, while the other two had played two years together, give him time..they will gel...he had a sweet behind the back pass to Murray for a break in...He just has to work on getting his shot off faster...but the rest is there...I just have a feeling if it was Bergeron that made that pass to Murray, we'd all be hearing how he is the best thing since buttered bread...Give the kid a break..He's at least trying...

Patrice Bergeron - One stupid mistake...and I cant believe people would blame Jurcina for that..Come on..I want him to make it as well..but its Bergeron covered glasses when he makes a mistake...He lost his man...Other than that I love the kid as well..His hockey sense is unreal for his age, and I think he should play the 10 games before going back...He deserves it..

Jillson - I love this kid, and is gonna make us say Mclaren who? He was everywhere offense defense, mucking it up..everywhere..great goal..The kid should run the powerplay..and will make us forget about getting Berard back...

Jurcina - Is he Big??? Funny thing is, he doesnt seem like he is because he is so mobile, and doesnt hit that often..he is like a more mobile Gill, and will be solid for the B's in the future..but should have one year and the minors...

Travis Green - Love the pick up..Great wheels..plays with grit..good faceoff man...everything you need for a third line center...

Knuble - Wow..Is he playing with confidence or what?? He will have a season like last year on the top line or not...He believes in himself, and it shows..I am impressed...

Sammy - Love seeing him back on the ice..He just makes the game so enjoyable to watch...cant what for what he has instored this year...

Boynton - solid..but lacking a little bit of timing, he'll get back into the swing of things..

Donato - Please leave him in Providence...

Samuelsson - Needs one more year in Providence, but should crack the line up next season...

Mccarthy - what a hit!! Not a bad player either...

Potvin - not bad..that first goal was horrible though..He was way in his net and a peewee could have picked a corner with him that far in...but he did make some good saves...

The rest played like expected...

Still preseason rust on this team, but the same can be said for most teams...There are alot of new members on this team and new line combos, a new system..its gonna take alittle time to adjust..we need to be patient...

Cant wait for the season..should be an interesting year..Go B's!!! :yo:

BostonGrl819
10-04-2003, 06:09 PM
Huml - Man. I cant believe how people get on this kids case time and time again..Not physical enough?? He was the only one on that line that would chase the puck when it was dumped into the zone, and got a penalty for roughing (maybe its his baby face that make people believe he is not tough?)...Yeah he had a little trouble with Thornton and Murray, because he's new, while the other two had played two years together, give him time..they will gel...he had a sweet behind the back pass to Murray for a break in...He just has to work on getting his shot off faster...but the rest is there...I just have a feeling if it was Bergeron that made that pass to Murray, we'd all be hearing how he is the best thing since buttered bread...Give the kid a break..He's at least trying...

I didn't say he wasn't trying. Yes, he would chase the puck and yes, he did get a roughing penalty.

I like Huml and hope he's on the team this year. Maybe I should have clarified "not physical enough." I should have said that he tries to play physical, but often ends up being the one hitting the boards. I think he still needs to add some size.

BruinsCupNow
10-04-2003, 10:04 PM
I must strenuously disagree with the posters arguing for Sammy-Thornton-Murray up front. Yeah..it's an amazing line...every bit as potent as anything the Avs or Canucks can throw out there. But I don't think we'd have much left over.

I do accept that Rolston and Sammy might not be so good together. But why not Rolston and Murray?? A balanced attack is critical. Sullivan should mix and match a bit in the first 20 games, if things aren't working. My choices to start the year? (assuming Bergeron is here, knowing Zams and Lapointe are out)

Samsonov Thornton Knuble
Rolston Bergeron Murray
Axelsson Green Huml
Grosek Stock McCarthy
Donato Samuellsson

Defence: Gill Boynton
McGillis Moran
O'Donnell Jillson

mmmBeer
10-04-2003, 11:24 PM
I didn't see all of the game... somehow I couldn't convince my roommates to watch a preseason NHL hockey game?! :dunno:

But, anyways, I saw a few 5-10 minute excerpts, and I noticed that the Sammy-Rolston-Knuble line got a lot of icetime. Also, I notice that a number of people here have been less than impressed by the line.

I gotta say I agree, even without having the same grasp that most of you have about how this game transpired.

I just feel that Rolston is not a good enough offenive 5 on 5 player to be a quality second line center. Half his points the last couple of years have been on special teams. I like what he adds to the team, I just don't think he's a second line center!

Anyways, I think for the Bruins to really have an above average group of forwards, they will have to find someone who has some chemistry with Samsonov. It seems like it hasn't happened yet. They will probably try to work this line for a few games, though. We'll see, I guess.

Also, Jilsson's goal kinda reminded me of an Orr-esque spin-o-rama from the point... not that I ever watched Orr live, but during the 95 lockout I somehow seem to remember Bobby making that play a number of times while NESN re-aired the old school game. Jilsson should be a solid addition to the blueline.

JakeBruin
10-05-2003, 12:57 AM
Huml belongs in Providence...has NHL skills but Euro outlook on physicality.....couldn't finish even if goalie is pulled......certainly out of place with that first line though he has first line skating ability.....needs further maturity....Nick stepped in without losing a beat......will only get better with a few more games under his belt....still worried about lack of five on five scoring....goaltending situation i believe is set and I think a good combination of youth and experience...I know its only pre season but Joe needs to play hard or give up the puck.....Sammy draws the oohs and aahs but should move the puck instead of ragging it like he is killing a penalty....no one in front of the net on PP......college goalies could stop most of shots if they see the puck as well as Dunham did.....Knuble if on PP should be in the low slot causing havoc instead of perimeter PP skating.....watch Detroits PP, no one skates the puck but rather it is on someones stick for a millisecond...puck movement not down low cycling is the key to good pp...Berard would be the missing link on the left point PP....
Just some observations.......

bruinmanny
10-05-2003, 03:40 AM
Some random thought on today's game

-Huml did not fit in with Thornton and Murray at all
-I thought for the most part Jillson and Jurcina did not stand out.This is a good thing for a younger defenseman.
-Jillson looked a bit injured on a hit that was unspectacular.It scared me a little.Maybe this guy is a little fragile
-Rolston and Samsanov can't play on the same line....end of story
-Bergeron didn't look too out of place but he was knocked off the puck a few times.I think the best thing for his future would be to send him back to junior for this season.
-On both goals Potvin was way too deep in his net,but overall he played o.k
-Where was the intensity....are guys supposed to be playing for jobs and ice time.This eerily reminds me of the Kasper era.....yikes
-Samuelsson can't be on our 4th line.His potential needs to be playing in Providence-man are they ever going to have a good team this year.
-Where's the offense?
-Nothing from this game leads me to beleive that this year will be a good one for the Bruins.I hope I'm wrong

Ch 4 Action News
10-05-2003, 04:39 AM
I don't blame Potvin for that goal. Couple of players lost their man, and when you put Petr Nedved in the slot with no one bothering him there is nothing you can do to stop his wrister.

I'd like to echo TheBigBadB on Huml, some people need to relax with this kid, he may not throw highlight reel hits and pound the tar out of the George Laraques of the world, but he doesn't shy away from the physical play as much as some of you say he does. I do agree though that he doesn't fit on a line with Murray and Thornton. I think he'd do real well on a line with Knuble though. If I had to set lines for opening night...

Samsonov-Thornton-Murray
Huml-Bergeron-Knuble
Axelsson-Green/Rolston
Grosek-Stock-McCarthy

I personally would like to see how that 2nd line performs. I think they bring something completely different then the first line offensively. Thornton and Murray love the one timer and passing thru traffic, and I don't think that Huml is that kind of player. I think if you put a guy like Knuble on a line with him though, stick him in front of the net and help him along the boards it would work well. Bergeron and his smart play could work well too.

neelynugs
10-05-2003, 04:46 AM
Huml-Bergeron-Knuble

I personally would like to see how that 2nd line performs. I think they bring something completely different then the first line offensively. Thornton and Murray love the one timer and passing thru traffic, and I don't think that Huml is that kind of player. I think if you put a guy like Knuble on a line with him though, stick him in front of the net and help him along the boards it would work well. Bergeron and his smart play could work well too.


that line would get the crap kicked out of it. bergeron is going to have a lot of trouble when a guy like derian hatcher steps up and smokes him. and then what happens? mike knuble steps in? :joker: don't get me wrong, i like knuble a lot, and he's a great teammate. but this line has zero jam to it, and if bergeron is gonna stick, he needs a guy like lapointe or mccarthy to ride shotgun with him. personally, this is what i'd do (until marty gets back):

knuble-thornton-murray
sammy-bergeron-mccarthy (put lapointe here when healthy)
axelsson-rolston-green (green takes faceoffs)

huml will be like where's waldo...b/c hopefully you won't be able to find him on opening night :joker:

TheBigBadB
10-05-2003, 04:53 AM
I don't blame Potvin for that goal. Couple of players lost their man, and when you put Petr Nedved in the slot with no one bothering him there is nothing you can do to stop his wrister.

I'd like to echo TheBigBadB on Huml, some people need to relax with this kid, he may not throw highlight reel hits and pound the tar out of the George Laraques of the world, but he doesn't shy away from the physical play as much as some of you say he does. I do agree though that he doesn't fit on a line with Murray and Thornton. I think he'd do real well on a line with Knuble though. If I had to set lines for opening night...

Samsonov-Thornton-Murray
Huml-Bergeron-Knuble
Axelsson-Green/Rolston
Grosek-Stock-McCarthy

I personally would like to see how that 2nd line performs. I think they bring something completely different then the first line offensively. Thornton and Murray love the one timer and passing thru traffic, and I don't think that Huml is that kind of player. I think if you put a guy like Knuble on a line with him though, stick him in front of the net and help him along the boards it would work well. Bergeron and his smart play could work well too.

At least someone agrees with me :D I think he has proved that he deserves to make this team..He has been everywhere this preseason.. Everytime he was on the ice, he was in the play...If he was invisible then I'd be worried...I just think after he was sent down last season everyone sees him as a bust...and gets on his case for everything...I just cant understand that he is not physical enough..he's chippy..He wont fight, but is not afraid to go to the net or throw a check...I dont understand the write off on this kid..Did anyone see his pass this game to Murray..That takes skill to do it at that speed...His problem is his confidence when shooting the puck...He's afraid to one time..so he tries to stop everything before shooting...once he is settled he is gonna be good...he may not fit well with Thornton and Murray...but the kid should be on the top two lines...

Ch 4 Action News
10-05-2003, 05:03 AM
that line would get the crap kicked out of it. bergeron is going to have a lot of trouble when a guy like derian hatcher steps up and smokes him. and then what happens? mike knuble steps in? :joker: don't get me wrong, i like knuble a lot, and he's a great teammate. but this line has zero jam to it, and if bergeron is gonna stick, he needs a guy like lapointe or mccarthy to ride shotgun with him. personally, this is what i'd do (until marty gets back):

knuble-thornton-murray
sammy-bergeron-mccarthy (put lapointe here when healthy)
axelsson-rolston-green (green takes faceoffs)

huml will be like where's waldo...b/c hopefully you won't be able to find him on opening night :joker:

The only way Bergeron will get smoked by Hatcher is if he plays with his head down, and if that is the case then HE shouldn't be on the roster on opening night. But, I don't think he'll have that kind of problem as his m.o. has been his smart heads up play.

Knuble will drop the gloves with anyone, he's proved that before, and thats all you have to do. I don't care if you don't win a fight, just show them you aren't gonna take that kind of crap. Plus we have a relatively large and tough D that can always step up if need be if they are concerned for young Bergeron.

Also, in the NHL you DO NOT go after the skill players, or the little guys if your an enforcer or a tough guy. And if you do you better play with your head on a swivel cause you're gonna end up getting drilled when you aren't looking.

Hey, you don't like Huml thats fine, you don't like that second line's "jam" (strawberry or grape?) either, good for you. Oh, and I loved that "This line will get the crap kicked out of them" thought...problem is this is hockey not boxing. :D