Reassign 2

Rangers today reassign 2- foward Richard Scott and D-man Fedor Tjitun

Saw it coming, it's a shame because now I'm gonna have to watch Purinton s*ck.

Saw it coming, it's a shame because now I'm gonna have to watch Purinton s*ck.
Not really. Bouchard is here now, I think he plays.

Ah yes, Slats, don't bring up a player from within, oh no, don't give it to perhaps the hardest working player in camp. Go pick up some 6'5 250 pound goon who can't skate in Siklenka and award him a spot over someone much more deserving, Richard Scott.


:rolleyes:

Ah yes, Slats, don't bring up a player from within, oh no, don't give it to perhaps the hardest working player in camp. Go pick up some 6'5 250 pound goon who can't skate in Siklenka and award him a spot over someone much more deserving, Richard Scott.


:rolleyes:

i disagree i think scott needs to show more and tjutin needs major minutes. have you ever seen siklenka in a fight? he can kick ass

Ah yes, Slats, don't bring up a player from within, oh no, don't give it to perhaps the hardest working player in camp. Go pick up some 6'5 250 pound goon who can't skate in Siklenka and award him a spot over someone much more deserving, Richard Scott.


:rolleyes:
How is Scott more deserving and what does it matter? I'm sure Siklenka would rather be playing then sitting in the press box every game. We complain about too many insignificant moves that this team does.

How is Scott more deserving and what does it matter? I'm sure Siklenka would rather be playing then sitting in the press box every game. We complain about too many insignificant moves that this team does.

I'm not complaining, I'm voicing my displeasure. What does it matter? It mattes because for once I want this team to develop players from within. That's what matters.

I'm not complaining, I'm voicing my displeasure. What does it matter? It mattes because for once I want this team to develop players from within. That's what matters.
Voicing your displeasure is the definition of complaining. Develop what though? This is Richard Scott, he'll probably be serving fries at McDonalds in a few years.

Ah yes, Slats, don't bring up a player from within, oh no, don't give it to perhaps the hardest working player in camp. Go pick up some 6'5 250 pound goon who can't skate in Siklenka and award him a spot over someone much more deserving, Richard Scott.


:rolleyes:

I must have missed the time Scott split the Defense. Scott is okay but isnt Siklenka younger and from what I hear a better fighter? Neither is much of a player. I'm not losing sleep over this move. Sather obviously wasnt impressed by Scott that much so I have no problem at all with the move.

Voicing your displeasure is the definition of complaining. Develop what though? This is Richard Scott, he'll probably be serving fries at McDonalds in a few years.

yeah but would they lay you off or would you just move up to register? :D

yeah but would they lay you off or would you just move up to register? :D
First I'd need to drop out of school so I can't answer that.

I think 'Jar Jar' is right, Tjutin is a good one, but it'll be best in the long run if he gets some serious minutes in the "A" before he's thrown into the Circus that is 'True Blue'!

I'm not complaining, I'm voicing my displeasure.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stop reading into this so much! scott and tjutin got sent down because they don't need to clear waivers like keefe and siklenka do.

stop reading into this so much! scott and tjutin got sent down because they don't need to clear waivers like keefe and siklenka do.

Agreed.

Maybe the coaching staff wants to get a look at these guys in practice, too.

I'm not complaining, I'm voicing my displeasure. What does it matter? It mattes because for once I want this team to develop players from within. That's what matters.

I gotta ask, if they did keep both Scott and Tjutin up, how long would it be before you started voicing your displeasure when they are only playing once in every 8 games? I like Scott but he isn't going to get much time if he's up here so it's probably best that he plays everyday down in Hartford. And it's not like he set the world on fire during preseason. He had a pretty mixed bag.

Developing players "the right way" from within is what hopefully the Rangers are trying to do with Tjutin. Lets face the fact that the guy IS NOT READY for regular shifts in the NHL at this time. Trust me, I think he'll be a gamer but I think he'll benefit from being down in Hartford playing on the first pair. It's alot better then him sitting in the pressbox as the 7th or 8th defenseman. Something that waiver pick up, Bouchard or Purinton are perfect for.

Trust me, I think he'll be a gamer but I think he'll benefit from being down in Hartford playing on the first pair. It's alot better then him sitting in the pressbox as the 7th or 8th defenseman. Something that waiver pick up, Bouchard or Purinton are perfect for.

Agreed. It's the same with Blackburn - once, he's healthy...

Tjutin is a good one, but it'll be best in the long run if he gets some serious minutes in the "A" before he's thrown into the Circus that is 'True Blue'!
I am a lot of things, but circus I'm not.

Developing players "the right way" from within is what hopefully the Rangers are trying to do with Tjutin. Lets face the fact that the guy IS NOT READY for regular shifts in the NHL at this time.

If Fedor "is not ready", then what does that say about Bobo, Malakhov and Purinton, who he handily outplayed through preseason?

I think it's sad that developing players the "right way" means getting them as far away from this team as we can. 29 other NHL teams have rewarded spectacular play from young players with roster spots, putting their best 23 players together regardless of their age. I'm a big Bouchard supporter, but Tjutin earned that spot and should keep it until his play earns him a demotion.

I am a lot of things, but circus I'm not.

Yeah, you're more "Carnivale"...

I don't mind the demotion much, but if I had any say in the matter, Malakhov would've been dealt, and Tjutin would've kept a spot.. As it is, it won't be the worse thing for him to get a lot of time in HFD, and we all know the injury bug can hit quickly, so he may be back up soon..

But still, it makes no sense for a team 6 years out of the playoffs to avoid letting younger guys get a lot of time with the varsity..

As far as Scott... I thought he earned a spot, but we all know he'd be sitting almost everynight.. At least the fans in HFd get one of their favorites back, and he can protect Moore and Tjutin and the gang..

I'm of 2 minds on the demotions. Yes, Tjutin did not do any worse than any of Dale or the M&M girls. However, and I have been harping on this from the beginning, is it really worth it for him to get minimal minuites under Sather, as opposed to getting major minutes in Hartford AND be assured that he will be able to continue to develop next year when there is no NHL. Playing underneath Sather ensures that he will be scapegoat #1 when something enevitably goes wrong. So is it really worth it for him to be benched for 5 or 6 straight games like Kloucek was? Let him be the man in Hartford this year and let him be able to keep playing next year.
Scott is in a similar boat. I think that he did not do any worse than Simon, however, Sather was not going to play a player with options ahead of his $1.5m vet. I think that Scott will be a member of the team during the next year (whenever it is that the league resumes after next inevitable cancellation). I would rather that Scott got minutes instead of playing 1 game out of every 10 as he would under Sather.

is it really worth it for him to get minimal minuites under Sather, as opposed to getting major minutes in Hartford

As a defensemen, what's minimal minutes? 16 including 3 mins on the PK? Personally, I'd say 16 NHL minutes is more valuble than 22 AHL minutes in terms of developing a player who's obviously very close to being ready if he's not already.

The only reason Tjutin's getting the shaft is because the organization is devoid of any other defensemen who are ready to be called up in case of injury. With Lampman out, Nycholat is the next guy in line. In my head, using him merely as a safety net might be the best thing for the organization, but it certainly isn't the best thing for a developing player.

In my head, using him merely as a safety net might be the best thing for the organization, but it certainly isn't the best thing for a developing player.
How much was Tjutin going to be "developed" under Sather? He may have started a game or 2, but it would be 1 mistake and off to the bench he would go. Right or wrong, Sather would not give him more time than he would to Purinton or Bouchard. Then when Leetch comes back, Tjutin would be permanently jettisoned to the ranks of undressed. Not saying that Purinton or Bobo or Malacough (or Poti for that matter) deserve to be in the lineup any more, but just taking the realistic approach here. You and I both know all it would take would be one inteference or retaliation penalty and Tjutin would become Sather's "example". You and I both know that the M&M girls can do whatever they want to on the ice, but when it comes to accountability, the only ones that are held "accountable" for anything are those who can jettisoned to Hartford. The only reason that Tjutin is getting the shaft is because he has options while Purinton, Bouchard, Bobo, Malacough, and Poti do not.

Then when Leetch comes back, Tjutin would be permanently jettisoned to the ranks of undressed.

Come on dude. Are you telling me Sather's going to waive one of Purinton or Bouchard in order to bench Tjutin, just to set an example, rather than simply send him down?

Come on dude. Are you telling me Sather's going to waive one of Purinton or Bouchard in order to bench Tjutin, just to set an example, rather than simply send him down?
I think that we may have a misunderstanding here. When I say example, I mean that benching him, not dressing him, or simply sending him down.

Let's not forget that Tjutin has yet to have even one year of professional hockey under his belt. He played in the major juniors as an 18 y/o and got stuck in Russia last year as a 19 y/o (thanks to the silly Russian rules regarding North American eligibility).

I'd much rather let him be top stud in Hartford getting 25+ minutes a night then have him start his professional career "playing" for the Rangers a la Malhotra. We know how well that turned out.

First I'd need to drop out of school so I can't answer that.

You go to school and still manage 50 posts a day?

Ouch.

If Fedor "is not ready", then what does that say about Bobo, Malakhov and Purinton, who he handily outplayed through preseason?

I think it's sad that developing players the "right way" means getting them as far away from this team as we can. 29 other NHL teams have rewarded spectacular play from young players with roster spots, putting their best 23 players together regardless of their age. I'm a big Bouchard supporter, but Tjutin earned that spot and should keep it until his play earns him a demotion.

Please Melrose, if you think Tjutin outplayed anybody in pre-season then I don't know what to say. He had one good game, ONE. Do I think any of the other d-men besides Devries had a standout camp? Nope, but people on this board will always skew what they see with the vets on this team because of their prejudices towards them and the way this team has been handled in the past. Did he earn that spot? I don't really think so and whether it's a hockey team or any other corporation, people that have been there longer are always gonna get the benefit of the doubt over the new guy. Unfortunately sometimes the Rangers take that out of control (lundmark) but I don't think so this time.

Listen I love Tjutin and think he'll be an awesome defenseman for this team someday. I just personally don't think he's had enough time in NA to play well in the NHL yet. The guy is what? 20 years old? and has no experience on this side of the pond outside a year in juniors.

If Tjutin stays with the rangers my fear is two fold. One that he will be overmatched early in the season ala Mottau was and then is sent down anyways or he's the 7th d-man spending more time in the pressbox then on the ice. All in all I think the best place for Tjutin right now is Hartford. I guess you disagree.

Scott and Bean Pole is a non issue to me. Two fringe players who will ride the pine 6 games out of 8.

As for Tjutin i'd rather see him down in the AHL. He'll get his 20-25 minutes a night and a chance to work on some areas {defense}. When he's ready he'll be up. In fact here's to hoping he forces the rangers hand with some superior AHL play.

Scott and Bean Pole is a non issue to me. Two fringe players who will ride the pine 6 games out of 8.

As for Tjutin i'd rather see him down in the AHL. He'll get his 20-25 minutes a night and a chance to work on some areas {defense}. When he's ready he'll be up. In fact here's to hoping he forces the rangers hand with some superior AHL play.

here-here :handclap: then we'll see if accountability is truly taking form.

You go to school and still manage 50 posts a day?

Ouch.
I'm sorry if that's all you can say to me after being laughed at then I can't do anything but laugh at your imaturity and ignorance.

You go to school and still manage 50 posts a day?

Ouch.
you can go to school and manage 50 posts a day if you have no friends!

you can go to school and manage 50 posts a day if you have no friends!
So I have no friends now. :lol:

What you think because you say something I feel insulted? The only way that would insult me is if it were true and the only way I see you even thinking it would be insulting is if it would insult you. Just because your life isn't what you hoped it would be doesn't mean everyone elses isn't. Hope McDonalds works well for you though. :joker:


Btw, are you going to any Ranger games this year? Let me know if you do maybe we can meet up or something. Me and my <i>supposed</i> friends are going opening night and on February 4. . Maybe you want to meet them or do you have to be serving fries that day?

you can go to school and manage 50 posts a day if you have no friends!
So I have no friends now. :lol:

What you think because you say something I feel insulted? The only way that would insult me is if it were true and the only way I see you even thinking it would be insulting is if it would insult you. Just because your life isn't what you hoped it would be doesn't mean everyone elses isn't. Hope McDonalds works well for you though. :joker:


Btw, are you going to any Ranger games this year? Let me know if you do maybe we can meet up or something. Me and my <i>supposed</i> friends are going opening night and on February 4. Maybe you want to meet them or do you have to be serving fries that day?

So I have no friends now. :lol:

What you think because you say something I feel insulted? The only way that would insult me is if it were true and the only way I see you even thinking it would be insulting is if it would insult you. Just because your life isn't what you hoped it would be doesn't mean everyone elses isn't. Hope McDonalds works well for you though. :joker:


Btw, are you going to any Ranger games this year? Let me know if you do maybe we can meet up or something. Me and my <i>supposed</i> friends are going opening night and on February 4. Maybe you want to meet them or do you have to be serving fries that day?
meet them as in fight them as in you are threating me. look kid your in high school im 25 years old. i have no time in my life to kick the hell out of high school kids. it wouldnt be fair to you. my friends would laugh if i told them some high school kid wants to fight me i need your help. do you understand what im saying to you. im not going to fight you. you can get every shot in. heck ill fall down. do you know why? because what i can do to you would be uncalled for. "your honor i broke three high school kids noses because i was not getting along with them on a message board." Your an ass and every time you post you look more and more like an ass! And the only person that could be this much of a jerk used to post here all the time. i know who you really are an :madfire: d all the other names you used to post as. you'll get banned again before to long.

meet them as in fight them as in you are threating me. look kid your in high school im 25 years old. i have no time in my life to kick the hell out of high school kids. it wouldnt be fair to you. my friends would laugh if i told them some high school kid wants to fight me i need your help. do you understand what im saying to you. im not going to fight you. you can get every shot in. heck ill fall down. do you know why? because what i can do to you would be uncalled for. "your honor i broke three high school kids noses because i was not getting along with them on a message board." Your an ass and every time you post you look more and more like an ass! And the only person that could be this much of a jerk used to post here all the time. i know who you really are an :madfire: d all the other names you used to post as. you'll get banned again before to long.
You have some comprehension issues, where did I say fight in any of my posts?

Now you just confused me, why are you threatening to ban me?

edit, stop following me to every thread just to bother me, I just remembered you also threatened me when I first registered calling me a jerk and girl. You should talk to a psychologist. Someone as depressed as you needs counseling.

Stick to hockey or you'll both get banned.

Scott and Bean Pole is a non issue to me. Two fringe players who will ride the pine 6 games out of 8.

As for Tjutin i'd rather see him down in the AHL. He'll get his 20-25 minutes a night and a chance to work on some areas {defense}. When he's ready he'll be up. In fact here's to hoping he forces the rangers hand with some superior AHL play.
What are the chances Lampman gets called up before Tjutin?

It seems to me Sather always goes on first impression. He never trusts anyone he is not familiar with as we can see from how he treats our young players and prospects. Lampman, before he went down, was by all acounts the better player through out preseason, I think he will be looked at first regardless of AHL performance only because Sather has seen both first hand and was likely more impressed with Lampman then Tjutin and his inconsistencies.

tough call, it depends on if tjutin gets off to a smoking start and how long it takes lampman to get back into the swing of things.

two drastically different players, i guess it would depend on the situation.

All things considered i'd say lampman gets the first crack if a slot opens up only because i think he is more NHL ready. Tjutin has all the skils and the much higher upside, but lampman is just a safe dependable defenseman. especially as he gets bigger.