Comrie - Gomez RUMOR *spector*

SPECTOR'S MAILBAG.

My thanks to "Tim" for the following speculation on Mike Comrie: "The Fan960 radio had Calgary boy John Davidson on the air yesterday from New York. I just caught the tail-end, but he felt a Comrie-for-Scott Gomez swap was in the works."


Just curious if this has already been beaten to death here. The Oilers forum is thouroughly sick of Comrie rumors. :)

Whats the status on Gomer? Injured? Happy? Lazy? :dunno:

Comrie as we are finding out is high maintenance. The Oilers much prefer low maintenance. He is a special talent with the ego the goes with it and it seems that a deal to see him in Oiler silks isn't happening.

Are we getting bent over with this deal? :dunno:

SPECTOR'S MAILBAG.

My thanks to "Tim" for the following speculation on Mike Comrie: "The Fan960 radio had Calgary boy John Davidson on the air yesterday from New York. I just caught the tail-end, but he felt a Comrie-for-Scott Gomez swap was in the works."


Just curious if this has already been beaten to death here. The Oilers forum is thouroughly sick of Comrie rumors. :)

Whats the status on Gomer? Injured? Happy? Lazy? :dunno:

Comrie as we are finding out is high maintenance. The Oilers much prefer low maintenance. He is a special talent with the ego the goes with it and it seems that a deal to see him in Oiler silks isn't happening.

Are we getting bent over with this deal? :dunno:

I wouldn't really say its been beaten to death in this forum quite to the degree its been elsewhere on HF. Its been discussed a few times in the last month amongst Devils fans speculating that its close to being times up for either Elias or Gomez. Gomez is healthy right now and is coming off a playoff run where he turned it up in the latter rounds after recovering from the "whiplash" (read: head injury) when he collided with Grant Marshall in round 1 against the Bruins, but didn't have the best preseason from what I saw and read. He's a seriously talented playmaker on a team where none of his wingers seem to be able to consistently finish off his gifted passes for some reason. You could easily add 15 goals to Elias' totals last season if he had finished 1/3 of the passes Gomez sent him right near the goalposts. I don't think he's lazy just really carefree for the most part when Burns seems to prefer his guys taking things more seriously. He's sound defensively and has made good strives over the last season in continually improving that aspect of his game imo. Kind of the square peg in the round hole type of fit for the time being. I'd very much like to see Comrie in a Devils uniform. Gomez' salary is perfect for the Oilers and he would likely put up better numbers on faster and better ice with guys like Isbister, Smyth, Hemsky, Dvorak, etc... I bet he could do some serious damage playing with Ales Hemsky.

We all know how much Lou LOVES contract holdouts...

Comrie ain't coming to NJ anytime soon.

Better that Lou targets an Oilers or Sens holdout as opposed to someone holding a team hostage where money has never been an issue though. Devils have had their own share of holdouts in the past. Its a reality in today's NHL.

We all know how much Lou LOVES contract holdouts...

Comrie ain't coming to NJ anytime soon.

exactly! Gomez has to have a good year or I think he will be dealt by christmas. However, Gomez or Comrie (or anyhold) just ain't happening.

Comrie and Gomez are two very similar players, both with the same amount of upside. I see no point in doing that deal, and that Gomez will not be making as much as Comrie is all the more reason for the deal not happening.

I wouldn't really say its been beaten to death in this forum quite to the degree its been elsewhere on HF. Its been discussed a few times in the last month amongst Devils fans speculating that its close to being times up for either Elias or Gomez. Gomez is healthy right now and is coming off a playoff run where he turned it up in the latter rounds after recovering from the "whiplash" (read: head injury) when he collided with Grant Marshall in round 1 against the Bruins, but didn't have the best preseason from what I saw and read. He's a seriously talented playmaker on a team where none of his wingers seem to be able to consistently finish off his gifted passes for some reason. You could easily add 15 goals to Elias' totals last season if he had finished 1/3 of the passes Gomez sent him right near the goalposts. I don't think he's lazy just really carefree for the most part when Burns seems to prefer his guys taking things more seriously. He's sound defensively and has made good strives over the last season in continually improving that aspect of his game imo. Kind of the square peg in the round hole type of fit for the time being. I'd very much like to see Comrie in a Devils uniform. Gomez' salary is perfect for the Oilers and he would likely put up better numbers on faster and better ice with guys like Isbister, Smyth, Hemsky, Dvorak, etc... I bet he could do some serious damage playing with Ales Hemsky.

Thanks for the input. Hemsky over passed the puck last year and it could be a disaster if Gomez is the same type of player.

Thanks for the input. Hemsky over passed the puck last year and it could be a disaster if Gomez is the same type of player.

Where do you think all of his points come from. 13 goals and 42 assists seems like a pass first player to me.

Gomez for Comrie is pretty much of a wash. Gomez is making so much less than Comrie wants. There is just no way Lou would make this trade unless the Oilers add a player, say Jani Rita. :) And that ain't goin' to happen in Kevin Lowe's lifetime! ;)

Comrie has scored 61 goals in 192 games
Gomez has scored 56 goals in 314 games

Gomez is not a goal scorer per se. He can pot the odd goal, but he is a great passer. I don't know how their assists stack up, but I know we have won with Gomer. He's a good guy. I don't know if Comrie would fit in in the locker room. You can't go by just stats.

I think that Mike Comrie is the better player, but would I trade Scott Gomez for him? :dunno:

Comrie has scored 61 goals in 192 games
Gomez has scored 56 goals in 314 games

Comrie has 72 assists in 192 games
Gomez has 181 assists in 314 games

Why is everyone always trying to trade Gomer, This guy is a great player and great gperson to have in the locker room when he comes into the room he brightens it up with that smile.....Trade him for Mike Comrie? Absolutely not......Comrie is very good good but he makes way to much money, and isnt really a team player

STOP TRYING TO TRADE ELIAS AND GOMEZ

yuck

Niedermayer27:

Oh, but there may well be a chance Rita is added into a potential Comrie for Gomez deal...! If Martin or Hale is thrown into the mix, it looks like we've got a trade...

Comrie & Rita ---------- for ------------ Gomez, Martin/ Hale

Niedermayer27:

Oh, but there may well be a chance Rita is added into a potential Comrie for Gomez deal...! If Martin or Hale is thrown into the mix, it looks like we've got a trade...

Comrie & Rita ---------- for ------------ Gomez, Martin/ Hale

No, Lou wouldn't even glance at this proposal. Rita is on my list for potential bust and Hale and Martin are EXTREMELY important to the oraganization due to the lack of depth. You know how we feel about Comrie for Gomez so in other words NO

Mission,

You crack me up with your big fat "NOs".

No, Lou wouldn't even glance at this proposal. Rita is on my list for potential bust and Hale and Martin are EXTREMELY important to the oraganization due to the lack of depth. You know how we feel about Comrie for Gomez so in other words NO

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/nj7.html

October 10, 2003
Devils interested in Comrie

TheFourthPeriod.com

Mike Comrie will always consider Edmonton home, but admitted yesterday he’s not optimistic his affection for the city translates to continuing his career with the Oilers, reports the Edmonton Sun.

Kevin Lowe, the Oilers’ general manager indicated yesterday the focus of talks regarding Comrie center on trading him.

According to various published reports, the New Jersey Devils have shown interest in Edmonton Oilers holdout Mike Comrie.

Speculation suggests the Devils and Oilers are working on a deal involved Comrie and Devils’ forward Scott Gomez.

http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=1739770
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The Toronto Star reported the latest trade rumor concerning Edmonton Oilers holdout Mike Comrie has the young center being dealt to the New Jersey Devils in exchange for center Scott Gomez.

Gomez's name was frequently mentioned in last season's rumor mill as he was believed to be unhappy in head coach Pat Burns' defensive system. Gomez's playmaking skills would certainly shine on the speedy Oilers and his $1 million contract would be affordable for Edmonton.

However, I can't see how Comrie would be a good fit in New Jersey. He's seeking more than what Gomez currently makes and is apparently staging this holdout because of unhappiness with GM Kevin Lowe's public criticism of his performance last season.

If Comrie doesn't like criticism in Edmonton, how well would he fare in the "Devils Den" under the outspoken Burns and GM Lou Lamoriello?
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I don't think its Comries point or goal production that the Devils are after, its that hes better at taking faceoffs then Gomez is, and with Joe Nieuwendyk going to the Leafs in the off-season thats a department they are weak in (as we saw in their series with the Ducks), adding Comrie would strength that area.

Both Gomez and Comrie had 47 faceoff % last year in the regular season, but you also have to remember that while Gomez was the Devils #2 center Comrie was the Oilers #1. Comrie was out there more, in higher pressure situations and against the other teams top players more then Gomez was. And in the playoffs while Comrie had a 51%, Gomez dropped to 44% (and you have to assume it droped when he moved up in the lineup after Nieuwendyk got hurt). Plus so far this year Gomez only has a 32% at faceoffs.

Point wise last year Gomez had (goals/assists/points) 13/42/55 and Comrie had 20/31/51 (in 11 less games). So the Devils would be getting a center whos better at taking faceoffs and who would give them about the same, if not a little more, offensive production. And in reguards to Comrie holding out, its not a money thing like it is with Havlet or Gabroik, he just doesn't want to play in Edmonton anymore, I would guess he'd sign fairly quickly if he got traded to the Devils. I think it'd be a good trade for the Devils to make.

Larry Brooks and his infamous league sources say the Gomez/Comrie rumors are unfounded.

Larry Brooks and his infamous league sources say the Gomez/Comrie rumors are unfounded.
There popping up far to often to be unfounded, I heard Gomez wants out of the Devils constrictive d system I admit I am not the biggest Gomez fan and I know Edmonton was hoping for a goal scoring centre preferably with size(Isn't that always the case?). I will make this proposal on the basis that Comrie>Gomez(goal scoring has always been more favoured then assist men if U think otherwise tell me y Oates is still a free agent) and Rita>Berglund(both quite unproven just Rita has higher potential)

To NJD:
Comrie
Rita
3rd pick 2004

To EDM:
Gomez
Berglund
Ahonen

There popping up far to often to be unfounded, I heard Gomez wants out of the Devils constrictive d system I admit I am not the biggest Gomez fan and I know Edmonton was hoping for a goal scoring centre preferably with size(Isn't that always the case?). I will make this proposal on the basis that Comrie>Gomez(goal scoring has always been more favoured then assist men if U think otherwise tell me y Oates is still a free agent) and Rita>Berglund(both quite unproven just Rita has higher potential)

To NJD:
Comrie
Rita
3rd pick 2004

To EDM:
Gomez
Berglund
Ahonen

I've heard some rumblings that the Devils would like Comrie and Semenov both. Do you feel the Oilers would be willing to part with Alexei so soon by chance? He'd bring us some big time size on the blue line for sure. We'd finally have someone tall enough to almost stand toe to toe with Chara battling in the corners. Do you think Semenov would fit in with the Devils?

Comrie>Gomez(goal scoring has always been more favoured then assist men if U think otherwise tell me y Oates is still a free agent)

Oates is still a free agent because he's 40 years old and wants $3.5 million. I think Peter Forsburg is an "assist man" I bet Colorado is just itching to get rid of him.

I've heard some rumblings that the Devils would like Comrie and Semenov both. Do you feel the Oilers would be willing to part with Alexei so soon by chance? He'd bring us some big time size on the blue line for sure. We'd finally have someone tall enough to almost stand toe to toe with Chara battling in the corners. Do you think Semenov would fit in with the Devils?

I think he'd be good for the Devils, but I don't know what they'd give for him. I'd hate to see him leave Edmonton, and I personally wouldn't give him up for someone like Martin or Hale, so I'm not sure what it would take to get him. He's young, big, fast, and has a very hard shot, so I'd just like to see the Oilers keep him. I guess I'm saying I'd just be very surprised if he was dealt any time soon.

Oates is still a free agent because he's 40 years old and wants $3.5 million. I think Peter Forsburg is an "assist man" I bet Colorado is just itching to get rid of him.
he got offered 2.2 mill and rejected it I don't believe he is asking for 3.5 mill that was just how much his club option the ducks turned down was.
I know u have had this discussion before but Comrie is > Gomez period, and plz don't compare Gomez to Forsberg he brings so much to the table aside from just points and still piles up a decent amount of goals, Gomez has been in the league for 4 years and still hasn't broke 20goals.

P.S. I doubt very much that Lowe would trade Semenov without getting a d-man back or a contigency plan for acquiring another d-man

JasonMacIsaac - Last year Nieuwendyk was the go-to guy for the Devils as far as faceoffs went, he faced off against the other teams top guys and in the important situations. Comrie was that guy for the Oilers, Comrie is a better faceoff man then Gomez, hes not Oates or Nieuwendyk but hes better then Gomez. The only reason the Devils would get Comrie (if they do or are even interested) is because hes better at the draw.

he got offered 2.2 mill and rejected it I don't believe he is asking for 3.5 mill that was just how much his club option the ducks turned down was.

He has said that he would come back but the price has to be right for him to put his old body through all the training. I don't believe he would sign for much less than 3.5 million. The reason he isn't signed has nothing to do with him being a playmaker rather than a scorer.

I know u have had this discussion before but Comrie is > Gomez period, and plz don't compare Gomez to Forsberg he brings so much to the table aside from just points and still piles up a decent amount of goals, Gomez has been in the league for 4 years and still hasn't broke 20goals.

Gomez hasn't broken 20 goals, but Forsburg's never scored more than 30. I guarantee you that his $10 million contract has a lot more to do with is 70+ assists than it does with his 30 goals. You might prefer goal scorers, but there is always a market for a good playmaker. Look at guys like Ron Francis, Igor Larionov, and Jason Allison. These guys can all score, but they earn their paychecks putting up assists.

What about a trade proposal of


EDM Gets: Gomez, Giroux, Ahonen, & #1 pick
NJ Gets: Comrie, & Isbister

Let the criticism begin, and lets hear ho we could get Issy and Comrie.

What would it take

Why would you want Isbister? I think you're giving up way too much.

If the rumors are Gomez for Comrie straight-up( i'm not a big fan of trading gomez or Elias) then what you are proposing is Giroux, Ahohen(potential #1 goalie), and a #1 draft pick for Isbister........not a good deal at all

He has said that he would come back but the price has to be right for him to put his old body through all the training. I don't believe he would sign for much less than 3.5 million. The reason he isn't signed has nothing to do with him being a playmaker rather than a scorer.



Gomez hasn't broken 20 goals, but Forsburg's never scored more than 30. I guarantee you that his $10 million contract has a lot more to do with is 70+ assists than it does with his 30 goals. You might prefer goal scorers, but there is always a market for a good playmaker. Look at guys like Ron Francis, Igor Larionov, and Jason Allison. These guys can all score, but they earn their paychecks putting up assists.
k I agree with that statement, but we have playmakers we don't really need anymore we need a guy with finish and I would rather play Chimera on the second line and let him snap up 25goals than have Gomez with 40 assists. I totally appreciate the playmaker thats what Dougie did hear for us and he was one of my favourite Oilers ever I liked him more than Guerin who is more of a goal scorer but at this point and time the Oil does not need Gomez's services sure I would not mind him but I would rather trade Comrie for something else and that's just my opinion.

and Tbg u r giving up too much but I think Lowe wants to give Izzy a chance to prove himself he thinks he will be the next Bertuzzi(yes I think he's delusional too) if were lucky Isbister 30goals 50pts.

I thought Brad Isbister had finally turned the corner in a game against Dallas right after he was dealt to Edmonton where he looked like a man possessed completely reborn out there, but things seemed to quickly revert back to normal soon afterwards. I didn't see anywhere near the same intensity from him in the playoffs as I did late in reg. season. 2 teams have given up on the dream of him being the prototypical power forward with great offensive skills and he's never once played an entire season. He would bring about the same points (perhaps less even) to NJ that guys like Gionta, Stevenson, and Stevens put up last season with this defensive system in place. His penalty minutes would likely hurt us as well although they have been rapidly declining so that may be a non-issue all in all. I'd rather see Semenov and Comrie dealt here. Semenov sounds like a player Lou would really covet similar to all the Brad Stuart talk this time last year.

What about this

EDM Gets: Gomez, & #1 pick
NJ Gets: Comrie, Izzy, & #2 pick (which could be high in the 2nd)

Mainly for Edm it appears to be a salary dump but it breaks down to

Comrie>Gomez
Izzy, & #2 >/= our #1

Personally I would pass on it for fairness concerns and it would leave our top 6 weaker without much return and we Just got Izzy at the deadline little early to be trading him

Their is nobody on Edmonton I would trade Gomez for, NOBODY. Not even Ryan Smyth, he makes way too much compared to Scott Gomez. Comrie is a nice player, but he's a whinner, you can keep him Edmonton. I really want the Devils to go after Craig Conroy. He just lost his captaincy to Iginla, he's in a contract year, he's 31/32 years old, great on faceoffs, a selke nominee, never won a cup so he's hungry, and wait till Jan/Feb when Calgary is out of it, we can get him for Philman and a 2nd rounder.