Gameday Thread: Edmonoton @ Vancouver

Mizral
10-10-2003, 02:22 PM
http://espn.go.com/i/nhl/clubhouse/edm_logo.gif vs http://espn.go.com/i/nhl/clubhouse/van_logo.gif

Canucks - Oilers
Sat. Oct 11, 2003 7:00 PM
General Motors Place - VAN

TV - HNIC
Radio - CKNW

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/teammatch?teama=edm&teamb=van (Canucks & Oilers preview)

A very good preview from ESPN there. Check it out.

This should be a much better test for the Canucks & Oilers alike. Fans from both teams - play nice.

Canadian Chris
10-10-2003, 02:41 PM
Canucks 5 - Naslund x2, Hank, Jovo and Mo

Edmonton 2 - Smyth and Hemsky

Biggest Canuck Fan
10-10-2003, 03:30 PM
Oilers 3 @ Canucks 2

Oilers had bad luck last year. Better team, and a solid Canucks win means they will slack off for this one.

Course I want it to be 6-2 Vancouver... which could happen.

elphy101
10-10-2003, 04:23 PM
Oilers 3 @ Canucks 2

Oilers had bad luck last year. Better team, and a solid Canucks win means they will slack off for this one.

Course I want it to be 6-2 Vancouver... which could happen.


Nah your right Canuck fan. Oiler's win :).

I say 4-3 with the game going down to the final minute.

The only given in the game though is that Naslund scores at least one goal. I love Vancouver's new third line of Arvedsson-Linden-Cooke.

The Oiler's will surprise this year with or without Mike Comrie. They are one of the few teams that can truly roll four lines every night. Torres-Horcoff and Laraque were amazing in their first game.

Malmo_Mike
10-10-2003, 04:26 PM
well at least this one isn't as early as the Calgary Vancouver gameday thread.

Canucks 3-1....Naslund continues to own Salo and pots 2.

Peter Griffin
10-10-2003, 04:35 PM
4-3 Canucks.

Canucks- Naslund X 2, Jovo, Arvedson

Edmonton- York, Hemsky, Brewer



Like Mizral said, this game will be a better test for both teams compared to their first games. Edmonton always provides a tough opponent for the Nucks.

Mr. Canucklehead
10-10-2003, 04:39 PM
Vancouver 5
Edmonton 4

Slightly more high scoring affair, each team getting 30+ shots. Vancouver's goals will be scored by Naslund, who will notch two, Henrik Sedin who will notch two both assisted by Danny and King and Trevor Linden. :D Oh how I wish.

~Canucklehead~

canucksfan
10-10-2003, 06:09 PM
4-2 Edmonton. Naslund gets one and Morrison.

Thalia
10-10-2003, 06:23 PM
Canucks win in OT: 4-3

Keep out of penalty problems guys and things should go a lot better than the preseason matchups.

Naslund 1
Bertuzzi 1
Cooke 1
Ohlund OT winner

Nalyd Psycho
10-10-2003, 11:02 PM
Hat trick by Artem "Current Canucks Points Leader" Chubarov!

PhillyNucksFan
10-11-2003, 01:28 AM
4-2 Canucks

Herik Sedin scored his first goal, Mo scored 1, Jovo/Ohlun

Dvorak/Isbister for Edmonton!!



:D :D :D

DiggerDan
10-11-2003, 07:45 AM
5-3 Canucks

Goals by D.Sedin, Naslund, Bertuzzi, Cooke, and Rutuu. For Edmonton Hesky, Smyth, and Smith.

tied 3-3 until midway through the third when Cooke puts Vancouver ahead on a short-handed goal. Rutuu seals it with an empty netter.(a stretch, I know, but what the hell! :yo: )

:handclap:

kmad
10-11-2003, 08:36 AM
I predicted 5-3 Canucks on the Canucks 'predict the score' forum..

goals by bertuzzi, chubarov, king, sedin, naslund

SedinFan*
10-11-2003, 09:18 AM
Hedberg starting tonight.

incawg
10-11-2003, 09:19 AM
Hedberg starting tonight.

source?

cnukfan
10-11-2003, 09:22 AM
Canucks play strong "d" and win 3-0. Goals by Jovo, and Bert pops 2 more. Have a dream...sorry.

SedinFan*
10-11-2003, 09:24 AM
source?

Team 1040

Thalia
10-11-2003, 09:26 AM
Hedberg starting tonight.Why... Cloutier played really against Calgary and it's only the second game?

Where did you read/hear this from b/c I'll be kind of surprised if Hedberg gets the start. Me thinks Crow is up to something.

SedinFan*
10-11-2003, 09:26 AM
Yes, Crow is up to something.

Equally playing the goaltenders like they said they would do. :rolleyes:

incawg
10-11-2003, 09:27 AM
I don't know that I agree with going to Hedberg after Cloutier played so well. It's not like these are back to back games.

LaLaLaprise
10-11-2003, 09:41 AM
It is good to get both goalies into games early in the year.
Although with a day off between the last time Dan played i would have assumed he would be starting tonight and then Hedberg in game 3.

Reign Nateo
10-11-2003, 09:55 AM
May as well get both goalies some action early, there is lot's of time in the year for hot and cold streaks.

The Oilers had a very strong game offensively their first time out, but it was against a team that just seems to refuse to work hard in the Sharks.

I'm predicting that the Canucks come out on top in this one.

Vancouver 5
Naslund 2, Morrison, Salo, Linden

Edmonton 3
Hemsky 2, York

Edonator
10-11-2003, 11:18 AM
So far i found 3 who jacked my avatar, sadly....

6-3
vancouver(2 bert, 1 nazzy, 1 jovo, 1 king, 1 linden)
edmonton(torres 1, dvorak 2)

dem
10-11-2003, 11:38 AM
Man... i so had the avatar before you! :rant:


But i shall be changing my avatar soon anyway...

Thalia
10-11-2003, 12:14 PM
Bertuzzi will be the guest on the After Hours Show tonight after the game.

You can go to this site, post your question and maybe yours will get picked on the air.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hnic/afterhours/

ttr
10-11-2003, 12:42 PM
So far i found 3 who jacked my avatar, sadly....

6-3
vancouver(2 bert, 1 nazzy, 1 jovo, 1 king, 1 linden)
edmonton(torres 1, dvorak 2)

i think they are very different, actually more different than henrik vs daniel

i laugh my ass off seeing both of your avatars, please don't abandon them completely, maybe make some modifications? :bow:


btw, i predict Jewelly will lay an egg in the second intermission, see if that will come true :D

Nalyd Psycho
10-11-2003, 01:27 PM
i think they are very different, actually more different than henrik vs daniel

i laugh my ass off seeing both of your avatars, please don't abandon them completely, maybe make some modifications? :bow:

Like having them spank the Avs logo?

incawg
10-11-2003, 01:30 PM
So far i found 3 who jacked my avatar, sadly....

A bunch of people stole my canucks ikea one. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. Either that or next time watermark your name across the picture :P

incawg
10-11-2003, 01:33 PM
There's a buzz on the street, hottest ticket in town!

Peter Griffin
10-11-2003, 01:36 PM
A big reason for Hedberg starting tonights game is probably because he wasn't played much in the pre-season(because of his injury) and Crawford probably wants him to get a solid game under his belt as soon as possible. Still, after Cloutier's perfomance Thursday night, I have to question Crawford's descision on this one... Go with the hot hand I say!

PecaFan
10-11-2003, 02:20 PM
Those picking the Canucks to win may wish to re-visit their predictions... The PecaFan curse may be in for tonight.

I won tickets to the game on Sportstalk.

Since 1996 when I saw my first live Canucks game, I am 1 win, 16 losses in games that I have attended. That's a streak of 16 straight losses, we won the first game I watched against Los Angeles (it was supposed to be Gretzky, but they traded him to St. Louis a week before, grrr).

Colorado, Calgary, Edmonton, Chicago, you name it, we've lost to them all.

C'nuckleHead
10-11-2003, 02:23 PM
Those picking the Canucks to win may wish to re-visit their predictions... The PecaFan curse may be in for tonight.

I won tickets to the game on Sportstalk.

Since 1996 when I saw my first live Canucks game, I am 1 win, 16 losses in games that I have attended. That's a streak of 16 straight losses, we won the first game I watched against Los Angeles (it was supposed to be Gretzky, but they traded him to St. Louis a week before, grrr).

Colorado, Calgary, Edmonton, Chicago, you name it, we've lost to them all.

Oh great! :rolleyes:

Anyone want to buy my tickets? Better yet, PecaFan scalp your tickets and go to the Lions game. ;)

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 02:48 PM
Is it the same lineup as last games? I say the scratches are Keane Slegr and Lindgren.

SedinFan*
10-11-2003, 02:50 PM
Forward line up is the same according to basically everyone.

Defensively, don't be surprised if Slegr steps in for Allen this game.

PecaFan
10-11-2003, 03:00 PM
Oh great! :rolleyes:

Anyone want to buy my tickets? Better yet, PecaFan scalp your tickets and go to the Lions game. ;)

Well, the games are generally entertaining, so it's still worth going. :)

Although I was at the Potvin three goals on the first three shots game, that one wasn't too entertaining.

Interesting the talk about Hedberg, I was expecting Cloutier again.

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 03:02 PM
Forward line up is the same according to basically everyone.

Defensively, don't be surprised if Slegr steps in for Allen this game.
I would keep Allen in. This game could be rough and Allen is tougher than Slegr. He played a pretty good game if you excude the first period giveaways.

Thalia
10-11-2003, 03:03 PM
Those picking the Canucks to win may wish to re-visit their predictions... The PecaFan curse may be in for tonight.

I won tickets to the game on Sportstalk.

Since 1996 when I saw my first live Canucks game, I am 1 win, 16 losses in games that I have attended. That's a streak of 16 straight losses, we won the first game I watched against Los Angeles (it was supposed to be Gretzky, but they traded him to St. Louis a week before, grrr).

Colorado, Calgary, Edmonton, Chicago, you name it, we've lost to them all.
Would you consider staying home and giving the tickets to me instead... I could probably bring more luck. :D

Thalia
10-11-2003, 03:04 PM
Havlat signs one year deal with the Sens.

Burke's Evil Spirit
10-11-2003, 03:37 PM
Yeah, the Oilers are a real test for Vancouver tonight, at least considering the toughness factor. It'll be our first game without Langdon, Baron and Klatt against a tough team like Edmonton, with the likes of Laraque, Torres, Ferguson, Cross, and to a lesser degree Isbister and Smith. It'll be interesting to see how we stack up, and who steps up.

God I sound like Arankys...

incawg
10-11-2003, 04:01 PM
keane is playing according to cbc

LaVal
10-11-2003, 04:03 PM
Hrudy said Keane will get his first game tonight? who would they scratch?

Oiltalk
10-11-2003, 04:05 PM
Those picking the Canucks to win may wish to re-visit their predictions... The PecaFan curse may be in for tonight.

I won tickets to the game on Sportstalk.

Since 1996 when I saw my first live Canucks game, I am 1 win, 16 losses in games that I have attended. That's a streak of 16 straight losses, we won the first game I watched against Los Angeles (it was supposed to be Gretzky, but they traded him to St. Louis a week before, grrr).

Colorado, Calgary, Edmonton, Chicago, you name it, we've lost to them all.
:D

TheBrew
10-11-2003, 04:08 PM
Well, the games are generally entertaining, so it's still worth going. :)

Although I was at the Potvin three goals on the first three shots game, that one wasn't too entertaining.

Interesting the talk about Hedberg, I was expecting Cloutier again.PecaFan i will have to start buying you Tickets to Canuck oiler Games :joker:

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 04:14 PM
Hrudy said Keane will get his first game tonight? who would they scratch?
I think Ruutu will be the scratch

LaVal
10-11-2003, 04:43 PM
I think Ruutu will be the scratch

sucks to scratch him after he played well and scored a goal. however, i'd have to agree he'd be the most logical scratch tonight.

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 04:52 PM
Ruutu, Lindgren and Malik arent playing. I heard it on the radio.

I Hate You All*
10-11-2003, 05:05 PM
My prediction, lots of Edmonton penalties; MacTavish... SNAPshow! lol

Edmonton 3
Vancouver 6

Edonator
10-11-2003, 05:07 PM
Man... i so had the avatar before you! :rant:


But i shall be changing my avatar soon anyway...

Did you really? I made a post about mine right when i got it on the canuck board. Check back and tell me when u got yours.

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:09 PM
That was a VERY touching anthem.

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:12 PM
1-0 'Nucks.

Cooke from Linden and Ohlund. :D

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:19 PM
Hedberg loooooks goooood. :D

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:21 PM
Ummmm, is there anyone else here tonight by chance? :confused:

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:24 PM
Yay... Cookie. :D

Yayo
10-11-2003, 05:24 PM
2-0 Canucks on a Matt Cooke goal.

Thalia
10-11-2003, 05:25 PM
2-0 Canucks on a Matt Cooke goal.Hey, thanks MAN for being there, eh? :joker:

ttr
10-11-2003, 05:32 PM
is cooke our current goal scorer? :handclap:

edit: leading goal scorer?

Edler Von Gud
10-11-2003, 05:45 PM
Sopel and Allen were together for a shift...*shudder*...it almost resulted in a goal.

incawg
10-11-2003, 05:46 PM
Moose update...trailing 4-3 in third:

Period 1
Manitoba - Fedor Fedorov (powerplay) (Kirill Koltsov, Jaroslav Obsut) 4:10
St. Johns - Jay Harrison (Brad Leeb) 7:51
St. Johns - Kris Newbury (powerplay) (Mike Brown, Chris Chartier) 11:39
St. Johns - Marc Moro (unassisted) 19:18
Period 2
Manitoba - Kirill Koltsov (powerplay) (Fedor Fedorov, Pat Kavanagh) 4:40
St. Johns - Kyle Wellwood (Nathan Barrett) 9:33
Period 3
Manitoba - Kirill Koltsov (powerplay) (Pat Kavanagh, Fedor Fedorov) 6:31

nucks2001
10-11-2003, 05:58 PM
Canucks are obviously trying to get everyone in right now. I don't think Ruutu and Malik deserved to be scratches but I imagine it will rotate for the first few games to get everyone in.

Sopel + Allen = bad bad so bad news

incawg
10-11-2003, 05:59 PM
Canucks are obviously trying to get everyone in right now. I don't think Ruutu and Malik deserved to be scratches but I imagine it will rotate for the first few games to get everyone in.

Sopel + Allen = bad bad so bad news

It's very scary to have half of our defense composed of allen, sopel, and slegr.

I Hate You All*
10-11-2003, 06:25 PM
Yeah. Man I wish we had a Foote or Hatcher as well.

Atta boy, Jovo. Way to stick up for Trevor.

Ironchef Chris Wok*
10-11-2003, 06:25 PM
Jovo Got Tossed?

LaVal
10-11-2003, 06:27 PM
Jovo Got Tossed?

it's the stupid instigator rule :rant:

nucks2001
10-11-2003, 06:27 PM
Jovo Got Tossed?

yea.. thats the rule.. he clearly was the instigator of the fight.. that being said it is one of the worse rules in the game.

Ironchef Chris Wok*
10-11-2003, 06:29 PM
Shorty! Shorty! Shorty!

I Hate You All*
10-11-2003, 06:29 PM
Cooker -> Keaner -> Slegr = pretty :D

edit: changed Keane to Keaner so that they all end in 'er' :)



"Well let me tell yoooew, back in my day we'd break our baaacks!" <--- I like that commercial.

nucks2001
10-11-2003, 06:30 PM
the 3 point cookie monster :handclap:

LaVal
10-11-2003, 06:31 PM
it'd get my vote for the worst. sure a 2 minute penalty should be in place, and give the guy a 10 minute misconduct if the other guy doesn't fight back.... but tossed out of the game for protecting a teammate on an attempt to injure? give me a break.

Ironchef Chris Wok*
10-11-2003, 06:32 PM
it'd get my vote for the worst. sure a 2 minute penalty should be in place, and give the guy a 10 minute misconduct if the other guy doesn't fight back.... but tossed out of the game for protecting a teammate on an attempt to injure? give me a break.

GO ARANKYS :lol:

LaVal
10-11-2003, 06:33 PM
HUGE dive

what a crock

incawg
10-11-2003, 06:42 PM
HUGE dive

what a crock

at least the oilers fans won't be able to whine about the reffing after this one :)

pretty solid defensive effort for the nucks. sedins/king looking very confident again. WCE sleeping thus far.

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 06:43 PM
That instegator is the dumbest rule in the NHL. Jovo is pretecting Linden and he gets kicked out of the game. Just give him a 2 minute penatly.

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 06:46 PM
HUGE dive

what a crock
That was a dive but Bertuzzi has to learn to keep his mouth shut.

Epsilon
10-11-2003, 06:50 PM
Jovonovski must have done something more to get tossed, instigator penalties don't automatically include a game misconduct.

canucksfan
10-11-2003, 06:56 PM
Jovonovski must have done something more to get tossed, instigator penalties don't automatically include a game misconduct.
Jovo didn't do anything else that I saw or the CBC annoucers. He just went after Isbister and fought him.

ttr
10-11-2003, 07:15 PM
Like having them spank the Avs logo?


logo is no fun, i want the real thing

elphy101
10-11-2003, 07:31 PM
Well a pretty boring game. Vancouver was cleary the better team. Can't blame the reffing on this one. I love Vancouver's third line of Arvedsson-Linden-Cooke.

On a separate note, what the hell is wrong with MacT. He's sitting Semenov so he can have the slugs Ferguson and Cross on the ice.

One final comment to piss of Nucks fans. I hope Izzy kicks the crap out of Jovo next game. Izzy just got 17 stitches in his mouth and had some dental surgery a week ago, and Jovo is goes for his face. I know where he's coming from in defending Linden but still have a little respect.

Fedz
10-11-2003, 07:34 PM
Do we have a goaltending dilemna or what?

Clouts...1 goal...great game

hedberg...0 goals....great game


WOW

incawg
10-11-2003, 07:35 PM
Izzy just got 17 stitches in his mouth and had some dental surgery a week ago, and Jovo is goes for his face. I know where he's coming from in defending Linden but still have a little respect.

Maybe izzy should have thought about that *before* he hit linden from behind. Brutally dirty hit, the kid got what he deserved. If he wants to come after jovo next game, go right ahead. Isbister might want to talk to deadmarsh before he does so though...

anyway, I agree that it was a fairly boring game. too many penalties both ways. hopefully next time it will be more exciting but you cant argue with the result :D

andora
10-11-2003, 07:36 PM
well, for one, that wasn't really checking from behind imo... it was boarding.. i'm not taking away from the bad decision, it was a gutless hit, but i'd say boarding...

aside from that and jovocop's intensity ( which is lacking so dearly in today's nhl ).. the game sucked... refs sucked, penalties sucked...

kmad
10-11-2003, 07:40 PM
3 stars:

1. Matt Cooke
2. Johan Hedberg
3. Trevor Linden

nazzy
10-11-2003, 07:40 PM
Sopel and Allen were together for a shift...*shudder*...it almost resulted in a goal.

Check your PM. :joker:

Great game by the Canucks, very well-rounder in both ends of the ice. Am I the only one who saw it or is Naslund a lot better defensively or more aware in his own end now.

LaVal
10-11-2003, 07:41 PM
Hedberg's probably never seen so few shots in a game. Enjoy the thing we like to call defense Johan!! :D

monster_bertuzzi
10-11-2003, 07:45 PM
well, for one, that wasn't really checking from behind imo... it was boarding.. i'm not taking away from the bad decision, it was a gutless hit, but i'd say boarding...

aside from that and jovocop's intensity ( which is lacking so dearly in today's nhl ).. the game sucked... refs sucked, penalties sucked...

The hit was more from the side than anything, but as Greg Millen said, Linden was defenseless for it was definatly worthy of the boarding call.

And good job by Jovo to smack Isbister right in the lip :handclap:

incawg
10-11-2003, 07:46 PM
Check your PM. :joker:

Great game by the Canucks, very well-rounder in both ends of the ice. Am I the only one who saw it or is Naslund a lot better defensively or more aware in his own end now.

Both more defensive and more physical. Two very good signs.

elphy101
10-11-2003, 07:54 PM
And good job by Jovo to smack Isbister right in the lip :handclap:

You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

cyrisweb
10-11-2003, 07:56 PM
You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

Damn rights be proud of Jovo.. He was protecting his teammate.. Isbister is going to play dirty and everyone else is supposed to be all the gentle with the guy? WRONG.

andora
10-11-2003, 07:57 PM
You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

hmm.. advantage elphy ... vancouver's ball

incawg
10-11-2003, 08:00 PM
You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

Deadmarsh was healthy...until he fought jovo.

Connecticut
10-11-2003, 08:00 PM
You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

Nice try at instigating... So do you think Jovo makes sure to keep update on the dental status of all the players he plays against? I actually thought I could see a glint in his eyes just before he beat the daylights out of little Brad that unmistakeably expressed the thought "perfect! he just had dental surgery!"

elphy101
10-11-2003, 08:02 PM
Nice try at instigating... So do you think Jovo makes sure to keep update on the dental status of all the players he plays against? I actually thought I could see a glint in his eyes just before he beat the daylights out of little Brad that unmistakeably expressed the thought "perfect! he just had dental surgery!"

It's okay, I just had to vent after the Oiler's sucked so bad. I'm done.

I understand where Jovo was coming from. Although, I disagree that the hit was that bad, if it was my teammate I would have gone after the guy. But you can't tell me, Jovo didn't know that Isbister was hurt.

MS
10-11-2003, 08:02 PM
You must be so proud of Jovo. He only seems to fight those that are hurt. End a concussion prone Deadmarsh's career and then goes after a guy that just finished major dental surgery. He should try taking on someone healthy sometime.

Deadmarsh was only concussion-prone after fighting Jovanovski, not before. He was not hurt in the slightest when that fight occurred.

As for Isbister, he shouldn't be running around throwing borderline hits if he can't back it up. Tough nuts if he ended up eating some punches with a sore lip.

andora
10-11-2003, 08:04 PM
i think there was a second jovo/deader fight, the one elphy might be referring to, where deader had already had a bad concussion...

i think, someone can confirm or deny this

incawg
10-11-2003, 08:04 PM
But you can't tell me, Jovo didn't know that Isbister was hurt.

Honestly, I don't think it's an issue at all. If you're injured and you go around headhunting you've got to be prepared to stand up for your actions. Just because the guy running Linden is doing it while injured doesn't mean that jovo shouldn't stick up for his teammate.

elphy101
10-11-2003, 08:07 PM
i think there was a second jovo/deader fight, the one elphy might be referring to, where deader had already had a bad concussion...

i think, someone can confirm or deny this

If I remember correctly, there was a fight where Deadmarsh had only gotten back a game or two earlier from a bad concussion. I could be wrong though.

elphy101
10-11-2003, 08:12 PM
Honestly, I don't think it's an issue at all. If you're injured and you go around headhunting you've got to be prepared to stand up for your actions. Just because the guy running Linden is doing it while injured doesn't mean that jovo shouldn't stick up for his teammate.


Yeah that's fair. As I said, I understand where Jovo was coming from.

Next game, should be interesting. A healthy Izzy against Jovo would be a pretty good battle/fight.

orcatown
10-11-2003, 08:24 PM
The second fight was instigated by Deadmarsh in an effort to prove he would not be initimated and could stand up to Jovo. In the fight Jovo did nothing but hang on and let Deadmarsh get in a few face saving licks. Jovo sort slapped Deadmarsh on the back at the end of the fight. I think he was showing Deadmarsh some respect for coming back.


As far as tonight goes the hit did not turn out to be too bad but it was careless and dangerous. Isbister has a history of doing dumb things. I don't think there was any intent but from Jovo's perspectative it looked extremely dirty. If Linden had hit Isbister like that and Staios came in to mop up Linden you would be singing a different tune.

Hit by Chimera on Allen was also stupid and careless. If later this year some one runs Dvorak or someone like that from behind you shouldn't complain if you aren't going to recognize your own dirty plays

Burke's Evil Spirit
10-11-2003, 08:28 PM
If I remember correctly, there was a fight where Deadmarsh had only gotten back a game or two earlier from a bad concussion. I could be wrong though.

I do know that it was a Jovanovski fight that started all of Deadmarsh's concussion problems (this is why a lot of Avs fans hate him). According to hockeyfights.com, he fought Deadmarsh twice in 2000-2001, I guess the second one is the one where he came back from the concussion.

Lard_Lad
10-11-2003, 08:31 PM
Results of HNIC's post-game poll on whether or not Jovo was right to go after Isbister:

Q: Should Jovanovski have gone after Isbister?

1. leave it alone, and get him later (66) 3%
2. do nothing (30) 2%
3. let a tougher player like Brad May settle the score (23) 1%
4. he did the right thing (1811) 94%

Burke's Evil Spirit
10-11-2003, 08:34 PM
Those picking the Canucks to win may wish to re-visit their predictions... The PecaFan curse may be in for tonight.

I won tickets to the game on Sportstalk.

Since 1996 when I saw my first live Canucks game, I am 1 win, 16 losses in games that I have attended. That's a streak of 16 straight losses, we won the first game I watched against Los Angeles (it was supposed to be Gretzky, but they traded him to St. Louis a week before, grrr).


Colorado, Calgary, Edmonton, Chicago, you name it, we've lost to them all.

Streak is BROKEN!!!

On another note, is Malik injured? Why in the name of Sweet Zombie Jesus would you scratch Malik after the way Sopel stunk against Calgary? (Granted, he had a good bounceback game tonight)

Pretty goal, though.

Kind of disturbed by the Bertuzzi/Jovanovski incidents. Those guys have to stop taking dumb penalties! We need them on the ice, dammit! Yeah, yeah, Jovo was sticking up for Linden...that's all well and good against Edmonton, but what do you do when Colorado comes to town? Discipline, dammit!

As for Edmonton, it was a pretty effortless performance by them tonight. Smyth was the only real energetic guy, really got beat up physically but still perservered. For crying out loud, Lowe, take a page from Darryl Sutter and give him the ******* captaincy.

Also, why in the name of Sweet Zombie Jesus is Semenov a scratch while studs like Cross and Staios man the point on the Edmonton PP? I mean, I like Cross and Staios...but not that much!

Hi-wayman
10-11-2003, 08:41 PM
We are still on tract for a 164 point regular season. Only another 160 points to go. :D

Ironchef Chris Wok*
10-11-2003, 08:50 PM
Streak is BROKEN!!!

Kind of disturbed by the Bertuzzi/Jovanovski incidents. Those guys have to stop taking dumb penalties! We need them on the ice, dammit! Yeah, yeah, Jovo was sticking up for Linden...that's all well and good against Edmonton, but what do you do when Colorado comes to town? Discipline, dammit!


About "fighting" when playing Colorado
I'm going to put it this way:

1. I don't want Jovanovski to fight anybody who doesn't have a "tough" reputation. ie. I don't want Jovo to beat the krap otu of Sakic, Kariya, Selanne, etc. Well, unless they cheapshot somebody, then they're fair game. I highly doubt Sakic is going to knee-on-knee anybody anyway.

2. I don't want Jovanovski to fight a 3rd/4th line player on the Avs... which mean I do NOT want to see Jovo fight Worrell, Hahl, Battaglia, etc.

3. I DO want to see Jovo fight a "tough star" player on the Avs. Which means if Jovo wants to go w/ Blake, Foote, or Forsberg, fine by me.

orcatown
10-11-2003, 09:31 PM
Another solid effort by the Canucks. The team seems so much better positionally. Some observations.

Cooke - Linden -Arvedsson were excellent. No news there.

Thought Slegr looked a lot better after the first few moments. I was really impressive with his last 40 minutes. Very mobile. He'll push Jovo for the best skating defenseman. To me the most encouraging aspect of the night was his play. If he can come on a play like he did in the last part of the game our defense will be a lot more dangerous offensively.

Another solid effort by Ohlund and Salo.

Sopel continues to fight the puck and make bad decisions. He'll be sitting soon if he can't do better. BTW what is wrong with his skating? Why does he keep falling over?

Am I alone in this. I thought Naslund was our worst forward. Edmonton got the their best chances with him on the ice. I think that him and Bertuzzi are having the most trouble adapting to the defense first system of the team. Naslund does not know how to play the trap.

Allen, at times, looked like he was playing with a mop but I think we will have to live through these continued growing pains.

Hedburg was excellent...especially early on.

H. Sedin was again superb. D. Sedin looked ordinary. The gap between these two continues to grow. King will have to do more. If Fedor can keep it up in Manitoba he will soon be breathing down King's neck.

Tom.H
10-11-2003, 10:49 PM
If what I hear about Naslund playing better defence ( I didn't see the game), come play-off time it will be good news to the Canucks.
I think goals are going to come for him, so I am not all that worried about that part of his game, even if it meant a modest decline in goals.
I would rather see his +- go up, what was he about +5 last year? That is quite telling for a guy who had 104 points.

I personally think that a guy with as much tallent as Naslund, that he should be able to become a better two way player. That goes with Bertuzzi as well.

quat
10-11-2003, 10:50 PM
Another solid effort by the Canucks. The team seems so much better positionally. Some observations.

Cooke - Linden -Arvedsson were excellent. No news there.

Thought Slegr looked a lot better after the first few moments. I was really impressive with his last 40 minutes. Very mobile. He'll push Jovo for the best skating defenseman. To me the most encouraging aspect of the night was his play. If he can come on a play like he did in the last part of the game our defense will be a lot more dangerous offensively.

Another solid effort by Ohlund and Salo.

Sopel continues to fight the puck and make bad decisions. He'll be sitting soon if he can't do better. BTW what is wrong with his skating? Why does he keep falling over?

Am I alone in this. I thought Naslund was our worst forward. Edmonton got the their best chances with him on the ice. I think that him and Bertuzzi are having the most trouble adapting to the defense first system of the team. Naslund does not know how to play the trap.

Allen, at times, looked like he was playing with a mop but I think we will have to live through these continued growing pains.

Hedburg was excellent...especially early on.

H. Sedin was again superb. D. Sedin looked ordinary. The gap between these two continues to grow. King will have to do more. If Fedor can keep it up in Manitoba he will soon be breathing down King's neck.

Funny... I thought it was Burt that was bad on the WCE line, and Morrison should just shoot the puck sometimes. Naslund looked as though he was really working hard (though with mixed success), at getting back down the ice.


Did anyone else miss how well Chubarov played? He was almost perfect everytime he was on the ice. A phenomenal defensive center who never gives up. This is the guy that will be instumental to the CAnucks success in the playoffs.

I felt that Daniel and King had a good games... I'm not sure what you are talking about... they were out against the Oilers biggest line, and were defensively excellent and had some decent pressure in the Oilers end.

The Oilers looked out played on all areas of the ice.

Allens going to get his time to improve, and he's bound to make some bad errors.. but it's good to see that he still get's his icetime, and that Crawford seems to believe in his ability to improve.

Totally agree about Slegr.

A much better defensive effort by the CAnucks.

Just watching a tape of the game, and after the Jovo ejection, Daniel and Burt are all over the Oilers.... both looked great on that shift.

PecaFan
10-11-2003, 10:57 PM
Streak is BROKEN!!!

As for Edmonton, it was a pretty effortless performance by them tonight.

Yes, it sure was nice to be on the winning side for once. I'd forgotten what it was like. Normally, the fans yell "Potvin Sucks" or "Clooot--Tier" all night, mock cheer when they stop a puck that was cleared all the way down the ice on the power play, and heartily yell "YAY!" when they announce 1 minute left.

I didn't mind Allen at all, thought he was fine all night. Made several good plays that I notice in particular. Got a bit of PK time, nice to see.

Just knew that Slegr was going to score, since I've dissed him so much here. I'd still rather have Malik playing and Slegr sitting.

I wouldn't put too much stock in Hedberg's shutout, that was one of the easiest ones I've ever seen. There weren't more than a couple actual scoring chances for Edmonton in the entire game. Numerous long shots, no screens, and no rebounds. But hey, he didn't screw up, so he gets credit for that.

He does stay out of the net a long time, that was noticeable. Rather than just set the puck up behind the net for a d-man, he'd wait until the d-man got there. I forsee some goals against where he gets caught out of the net in his future.

Bought a Cooke bobblehead for $4.77 at Authentix before the game, and he promptly goes out to 2G, 1A. Probably my favourite Canuck on this roster. There's powerful magic in this bobble, must make sure not to waste it until the playoffs.

maruk14
10-12-2003, 05:51 AM
Just to echo orcatown's sentiments, what the hell happened to Sopel? Granted, he did play better in game 2, but there was nowhere to go but up. He is quickly becoming one of the worst skating defenseman in the NHL. He has always looked awkward, but he fell down .... on his own .... 3 times by my count last night. The first game was worse. Try some new skates, do something, but the guy is a heart attack every time he steps on the ice.

LaVal
10-12-2003, 07:05 AM
If I remember correctly, there was a fight where Deadmarsh had only gotten back a game or two earlier from a bad concussion. I could be wrong though.

you are correct, but you are referring to the one that Deadmarsh recieved an instigator and a misconduct from. so i don't see how anybody can label Jovo for that one.

Reign Nateo
10-12-2003, 07:07 AM
I was at the game, lower bowl just above where the Linden thing happened, and when it happened it looked like the dirtiest hit I had seen in a while, Linden had just gotten to his feet and Isbister hit him from behind, If Jovo hadn't have done what he did someone would have, Cooke was skating over and Bertuzzi was creeping over the bench. The Canucks felt it was the right thing to do and from my vantage point it was.

The icing on the cake was watching that wannabe "power forward" Brad Isbister get pummelled, Jovo looked in his face and said something to the effect of "that was a dirty f**kin hit, you don't do that to our team, if you want your ass kicked again I'll do it" (or so I heard from someone sitting a little closer)

The game was good, the Canucks played a great defensive game, shut down the Oilers all night long. The Canucks defence has really come together out there, save for Sopel who will become our Patrice Brisbois if things don't change in a hurry, if Malik was in over Sopel, the Oilers would have had even less chances.

Salo looked like Cloutier on the first goal, but made some nice saves after that. I am really liking the Canucks off season pickups this year, all have performed well, also I think that Slegr will be an important member of our team once he adjusts to the game he was our most physical punishing defenceman, although Ohlund showed some signs.

cnukfan
10-12-2003, 07:23 AM
Canucks play strong "d" and win 3-0. Goals by Jovo, and Bert pops 2 more. Have a dream...sorry.


Dreams really do come true. Great all round game. :handclap:

Mizral
10-12-2003, 07:35 AM
I missed the first two goals, but I caught most of the game. Some questions and notes:

- Did we match up Arvedson/Linden/Cooke against a line? If so, who?

- I thought Ohlund played a magnificent game. A couple big hits, beautiful defensive play.

- Morrison looks.. if you can believe this.. even better defensivly than last year. By far and away our best defensive forward for the first two games.

- I was very impressed with Hedberg tonight. The way he handles the puck is so foreign to me as a Canuck fan!

- The Canucks power play didn't score, but I did think they got some good chances.

TheBrew
10-12-2003, 09:44 AM
I was at the game, lower bowl just above where the Linden thing happened, and when it happened it looked like the dirtiest hit I had seen in a while, Linden had just gotten to his feet and Isbister hit him from behind, If Jovo hadn't have done what he did someone would have, Cooke was skating over and Bertuzzi was creeping over the bench. The Canucks felt it was the right thing to do and from my vantage point it was.

The icing on the cake was watching that wannabe "power forward" Brad Isbister get pummelled, Jovo looked in his face and said something to the effect of "that was a dirty f**kin hit, you don't do that to our team, if you want your ass kicked again I'll do it" (or so I heard from someone sitting a little closer)

The game was good, the Canucks played a great defensive game, shut down the Oilers all night long. The Canucks defence has really come together out there, save for Sopel who will become our Patrice Brisbois if things don't change in a hurry, if Malik was in over Sopel, the Oilers would have had even less chances.

Salo looked like Cloutier on the first goal, but made some nice saves after that. I am really liking the Canucks off season pickups this year, all have performed well, also I think that Slegr will be an important member of our team once he adjusts to the game he was our most physical punishing defenceman, although Ohlund showed some signs.When is the next Oiler Canuck game i hope it's not to soon hopefully Isbister Will have all his stiches out and Him and Jovo will go at it again and the fight will be more even

Reign Nateo
10-12-2003, 01:09 PM
When is the next Oiler Canuck game i hope it's not to soon hopefully Isbister Will have all his stiches out and Him and Jovo will go at it again and the fight will be more even

Jovo has nothing to prove to Isbister, therefore has no reason to fight him again.

Isbister hit one of our team leaders from behind on a dangerous play, this is a cohesive team, he's lucky Jovo was the toughest Canuck on the ice.

monster_bertuzzi
10-12-2003, 01:27 PM
Isbister is also lucky Jovo waited for him to drop the gloves as well, or else it would have been worse than the bloody nose he received.