NFL Week IX GDT thread

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Sunday
1:00 p.m. ET Cincinnati Bengals at Baltimore Ravens
1:00 p.m. ET Tennessee Titans at Cleveland Browns
1:00 p.m. ET Houston Texans at Jacksonville Jaguars
1:00 p.m. ET Oakland Raiders at Kansas City Chiefs
1:00 p.m. ET Atlanta Falcons at Miami Dolphins
1:00 p.m. ET Detroit Lions at Minnesota Vikings
1:00 p.m. ET San Diego Chargers at New York Jets
1:00 p.m. ET Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers
4:05 p.m. ET Seattle Seahawks at Arizona Cardinals
4:05 p.m. ET Chicago Bears at New Orleans Saints
4:05 p.m. ET New York Giants at San Francisco 49ers
4:15 p.m. ET Pittsburgh Steelers at Green Bay Packers
8:30 p.m. ET Philadelphia Eagles at Washington Redskins

Monday Night
9:00 p.m. ET Indianapolis Colts at New England Patriots

Wow, a bad week of games except for Monday Night.

Jim Mora Jr has said he will no longer sniff his ammonia capsules before the game, maybe he will just sniff some glue or paint cans at halftime

Dallas with a bye week. They should be 7-1(collapsed against Washington and Seatlle) but I'n not worried that they are 5-3.

Jacksonville needs to win today. If they lose, they can kiss the playoffs goodbye (inconsistency is their worst enemy).

Jacksonville needs to win today. (inconsistency is their worst enemy).
yeah that and a QB that sucks and is less mobile than Tommy Maddox

Ty Law might want to go get his ankles checked after that one.

After losing in two consecutive weeks due to poor performances by LT, I am leading my match because of two first quarter TDs by Tomlinson. :yo:

Only Jacksonville can make a team like Houston look good. :shakehead

EDIT--Look, Houston scores a Touchdown! :biglaugh: :shakehead

Tomlinson gets his third TD of the game (two rush, one reception).

Think o-lineman get nervous having to block Julius Peppers? On 3rd down, Kenyata Walker had 2 false starts in a row with Peppers in front of him. Gruden stared him down as he went back to the sideline. :biglaugh:

**** ref there was a face mask on rice for 5 yards long

Just to prove how utterly terrible the NFC North is, the Vikes are laying a *****wiffing on the Lions right now. They are averaging around 10-yards per carry and the Lions have turned the ball over twice inside their own 15.

Vikes are up 24-nothing with 4 minutes to go in the half.

What is wrong with the Jags? Jeez, their offense is non-existent.

I will say I still believe David Carr is a good quarterback. He's finally got his best weapon in Andre Johnson back and he's having a decent game against a good defense. It's a shame he gets sacked 16 time a game.

What is wrong with the Jags? Jeez, their offense is non-existent.

I will say I still believe David Carr is a good quarterback. He's finally got his best weapon in Andre Johnson back and he's having a decent game against a good defense. It's a shame he gets sacked 16 time a game.
And as soon as I say that, he gets sacked twice in a row and fumbles. Get this guy some help on the O-line.

I will say I still believe David Carr is a good quarterback. He's finally got his best weapon in Andre Johnson back and he's having a decent game against a good defense. It's a shame he gets sacked 16 time a game.
That's why I feel sorry for him. We have no idea how good he might be because he spends half the game underneath a defensive lineman.

Unlike Harrington who has had the opportunites to fail all on his own, Carr hasn't had the same chances.

What is wrong with the Jags? Jeez, their offense is non-existent.

I will say I still believe David Carr is a good quarterback. He's finally got his best weapon in Andre Johnson back and he's having a decent game against a good defense. It's a shame he gets sacked 16 time a game.

Too many drops by the receivers.

One thing that peeves me off is that they don't use Matt Jones a lot. In the first game, they used him in a couple of trick plays, but now they only have him receive the ball. He can do more than that.

Jags score, 7-7.

Come on Jacksonville, keep it up! :clap:

Just to prove how utterly terrible the NFC North is, the Vikes are laying a *****wiffing on the Lions right now. They are averaging around 10-yards per carry and the Lions have turned the ball over twice inside their own 15.

Vikes are up 24-nothing with 4 minutes to go in the half.

While at these they won't get shutout now, 24-7, but it doesn't make a bit of difference. The only thing this game proves is that the Vikes are less terrible than the Lions and slightly better than the Packers. God, the NFC North sucks. Sad thing is, (or maybe because of it) is that Culpepper isn’t even playing.

I just wish someone would drive the Lions out to a desolate field somewhere, and just shoot them. Put them and any long-standing Lions out of their collective misery. Marriucci sucks and Harrington blows.

:madfire: 14-7 Houston.

What a bunch of frauds Jacksonville are. Del Rio needs to be fired.



On another not, LT gets his fourth TD of the game.

CBS (and maybe others, but I've only been watching the CBS game) say that Owens isn't suspended, but, for the moment, inactive tonight. So it's possible that he could play.

Atleast Jacksonville has a promising young WR core for the future. Williams, Jones, and Wilford (100+yard game last week, 77 yards today) have looked good this year.

CBS (and maybe others, but I've only been watching the CBS game) say that Owens isn't suspended, but, for the moment, inactive tonight. So it's possible that he could play.
probably just semantics on Reids part since they can only officially suspend him for "conduct detrimental to the team" for 4 games


the Ravens are down to their 2nd former Steeler backup qb and Kordell Stewart is in and looking pretty good so far, granted hes just been handing off and running the ball himself

That's why I feel sorry for him. We have no idea how good he might be because he spends half the game underneath a defensive lineman.

Unlike Harrington who has had the opportunites to fail all on his own, Carr hasn't had the same chances.
David Carr has shown glimpses of his potential, even when he's been getting sacked all the time. He had a good season last year and today he seems to be playing very well. Harrington has shown nothing, even with more around him. I just wish Houston would help Carr out. You can't have the future of your franchise getting crushed every game.

Leftwich ran in for a TD!!!!

14-14! :yo:

Think o-lineman get nervous having to block Julius Peppers? On 3rd down, Kenyata Walker had 2 false starts in a row with Peppers in front of him. Gruden stared him down as he went back to the sideline. :biglaugh:

He shouldn't be too scared of Peppers and his grand total of 1 sack.

Is this Simms guy the only QB Tampa Bay has or do they have a starter injured? This kid has the confidence of an 8 year old schoolgirl on the pitch right now...

Is this Simms guy the only QB Tampa Bay has or do they have a starter injured? This kid has the confidence of an 8 year old schoolgirl on the pitch right now...
They have Tim Rattay, and another young QB.

Griese, their starter, is injured.

Is this Simms guy the only QB Tampa Bay has or do they have a starter injured? This kid has the confidence of an 8 year old schoolgirl on the pitch right now...

Haha...the Cats are wacking 'em Bucs good. Gotta love it man.

Both Rucker and Peppers with 2.0 sacks.
:D :yo:

They have Tim Rattay, and another young QB.

Griese, their starter, is injured.

That explains... I knew they had to have someone good besides this kid.

Ah, the broadcasters just mentioned it too.


And yeah, the Cats defense is pretty impressive today!

He shouldn't be too scared of Peppers and his grand total of 1 sack.
You should be scared of Julius Peppers at all times. Maybe the best athlete in the NFL.

TD Jacksonville!

21-14!!!

Gus Frerotte blows it for the Dolphins, throwing an INT in the red zone after a great drive. Both Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams look good today.

46 secs left, Texans lose posession due to loss of downs.

Jags win!!

I'm disappointed that they didn't blow out Houston, but atleast they came back (twice) to win this game.

Wilford is a monster! :yo:

Unfortunately, Fragile Fred is injured again. :shakehead

Jags win. I like the Jags, but I want to see David Carr succeed. He had a very good game today it would seem, but once again, gets sacked 6 times.

The Jets seem to be making a comeback of sorts with Brooks Bollinger at QB.

Wow, the Chargers are self-destructing, Brees fumbles ball away on a sack.

Jags win. I like the Jags, but I want to see David Carr succeed. He had a very good game today it would seem, but once again, gets sacked 6 times.

Carr has had success against Jacksonville before (Houston won both meetings last year) so it was time for the Jags to beat the Texans.

I feel bad for Carr. Too bad he couldn't play for the other team in Texas, because he would have a lot of weapons to throw to in Dallas (Witten, Johnson, Glenn, Price). He would also have a very good o-line in front of him.

You should be scared of Julius Peppers at all times. Maybe the best athlete in the NFL.
he can go do some situps with Herschel Walker, athleticism is great but you gotta produce

Wow, the Chargers are self-destructing, Brees fumbles ball away on a sack.
the Chargers are so Jeckyll and Hyde its gotta be driving Schottenheimer nuts

San Diego Super Chargers are about to collapse in New York.

he can go do some situps with Herschel Walker, athleticism is great but you gotta produce

Two sacks in todays game. That's a start, but I agree that Peppers has to have more than three sacks after 8 games.

6-2 Panthers....WHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (In my best Flair impression.)
:yo:

Ernest Wilford >>> Reggie Williams.

The Jags need to stop playing down to bad teams though.

1st and goal for the Jets right now down 31-26.

Ernest Wilford >>> Reggie Williams.

The Jags need to stop playing down to bad teams though.

1st and goal for the Jets right now down 31-26.

He's getting better, although being injured right now doesn't help.

With Smith probably retiring within the next two years, we need Williams to step up. The future looks great, with Wilford, Williams, and my favourite receiver, Jones.

Jets blow it from first and goal at the third yard line!!! :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

shoulda been interference on 2nd down there but what can ya do, maybe Edwards realized today that they're going nowhere with Vinny and will sink or swim with Bollinger

Moss scores a TD, Oakland takes the lead in KC.

Randy Moss just cut the hearts out of the Chiefs with 1:45 left

come on already get to the damned steelers game

I had no idea Moss was even playing.

And the Raiders defense blows it.

Chiefs at the one yard line with 5 seconds to go. Take the field goal. Don't try to get a TD, because they have no timeouts left.

What a play by Johnson.

Chiefs are going to run a play.

They are going to blow it.

Chiefs win!

yeah what a quick pass, for being former players these guys just guess as much as anyone else

That was the worst goal line defense I've ever seen. He just walked right in.

Kerry Collins was on the xp block team

yeah what a quick pass, for being former players these guys just guess as much as anyone else

"They are going to pass it"

"Watch for a quick pass"

"Pass, Pass, Pass"

"Oh look, they're going to pass"

*Johnson runs in for a touchdown*

"I told you they would run!"

Gooooooooooooo, GIANTS!

Great catch by Burress, bad holding by Shawn (Shaun?) O'Hara.

So the play is negated and they need to go 12 yards instead of 2.

Thanks, O'Hara.

Raiders screwed over by the officials (read NFL). A bull*** tripping call that at the very least should have been offset by a holding call.

Quincy Morgan needs to remember he isnt with the Brownies anymore and stop that fumbling ********

Beautiful, 77y fumble return by Gene Simmons

Polamalu! :yo:

I'm going to remain undefeated after this week too.

Favre needs to retire or ask for a trade to a contender, its sad to watch him struggle like this

Well, it was a good season while it lasted :shakehead

I can't believe how the Bucs have just done a total 180 on offense. And its not just Chris Simms who, might I add, is slowly throwing himself out of this league, the offense line totally regressed to their 2004 form after making such huge strides in preseason and the first 6 weeks of the season. The running game? Forget about it. Non existent the last two weeks. Michael Clayton is playing hurt, and the only one who's been able to do a thing offensively is Joey Galloway.

And the defense can't get turnovers anymore.

This was a HUGE game, our first divisional game and a home game to boot. And we got smoked. Which means to have a shot at the playoffs, we're probably going to have to steal one on the road against Atlanta, Carolina or New Orleans, which hasn't been easy for us recently.

If we lose next week (tough game against Washington) we're done like dinner.

Well, it was a good season while it lasted :shakehead

I can't believe how the Bucs have just done a total 180 on offense. And its not just Chris Simms who, might I add, is slowly throwing himself out of this league, the offense line totally regressed to their 2004 form after making such huge strides in preseason and the first 6 weeks of the season. The running game? Forget about it. Non existent the last two weeks. Michael Clayton is playing hurt, and the only one who's been able to do a thing offensively is Joey Galloway.

And the defense can't get turnovers anymore.

This was a HUGE game, our first divisional game and a home game to boot. And we got smoked. Which means to have a shot at the playoffs, we're probably going to have to steal one on the road against Atlanta, Carolina or New Orleans, which hasn't been easy for us recently.

If we lose next week (tough game against Washington) we're done like dinner.
looking back at the fast start though the Bucs got where they were by beating up on a lot of bad teams, the Panthers are the only good team they've played all year and they got their butts handed to them

seems to me it was a lot of false hope

looking back at the fast start though the Bucs got where they were by beating up on a lot of bad teams, the Panthers are the only good team they've played all year and they got their butts handed to them

seems to me it was a lot of false hope
Those teams were supposed to be better than us. Some people said we wouldn't win five games all year.

Having seen four of the wins, they played really well. They got a fresh Minnesota before the off field dramas, a pretty good Buffalo team, and an improved Miami Dolphins.

the Chargers are so Jeckyll and Hyde its gotta be driving Schottenheimer nuts

And driving all Chargers fans nuts. They should have run away with this game but they almost let it slip away again. :shakehead They need that killer instinct. This is a good football team, but they are struggling at crunch time. A loss this week would have been devestating. Their bye week comes at a great time as hopefully some of the o-line starters and defensive starters can return in a couple weeks. Playoffs are still a definite possibility.

Those teams were supposed to be better than us. Some people said we wouldn't win five games all year.

Having seen four of the wins, they played really well. They got a fresh Minnesota before the off field dramas, a pretty good Buffalo team, and an improved Miami Dolphins.

true

up to last week's game the Bucs played really well ... minus the Jets game perhaps ... but other than that the O-Line was really good, same for the defense. Now everytime the defense has a bad 1st drive, they can't do anything else the rest of the game. Of course if the ref would have done his job and called the face mask on Rice then it would have been different. But the Bucs didn't look like they wanted to get back in this game.

Simms showed again he is a rookie. On the 1st Gamble pick, all he had to do is throw the ball away because the play wasn't going anywhere. Easier said than done, but he's got make those plays.

In the end, no o-line no running game, no running game no win

Ughhhhh....Why couldn't the Chargers have covered the freaking spread??? :cry:

yeah what a quick pass, for being former players these guys just guess as much as anyone else
Give me a guy that went to broadcast school and learned how to do the job any day.

5-3 with a 4th round pick as our QB. Good year so far :yo:

He shouldn't be too scared of Peppers and his grand total of 1 sack.

Considering how Peppers has completely abused Kenyata Walker in the past, Walker should be nervous going against Peppers. He's struggled so far this year, but he's still one of the best defensive lineman in the league.

What a terrible "tripping" call on the Raiders d-lineman today. He was tackled by the Chiefs lineman and his legs were tangled with Green. It stopped the clock and gave the Chiefs 10 yards. Then again, they can't give up the huge play they did to Larry Johnson in the closing seconds.

The Bucs problems do not begin and end with Chris Simms but he is not really part of the solution. Gruden should really have Rattay studying that playbook hard.

Ughhhhh....Why couldn't the Chargers have covered the freaking spread??? :cry:

My poor Point Spread ticket, foiled by my own team :cry: so close to $210.....

Randy Moss just cut the hearts out of the Chiefs with 1:45 left
hahahaha. Its nice when I'm not the one who looks stupid for once, oh well. Green was walking wounded today and Holmes was out. I'll take a win with our top 2 players(arguably in franchise history) either out or ****ed up.

there you go...at the press conference, dick vermeil crying again after a big win...LOL!

there you go...at the press conference, dick vermeil crying again after a big win...LOL!
Much like me after watching Gus Ferrotte's performance today. :cry:

there you go...at the press conference, dick vermeil crying again after a big win...LOL!
that's totally unfair. He was crying before the post game presser judging by the summaries.

that's totally unfair. He was crying before the post game presser judging by the summaries.
he was eulogizing priest holmes' career

Listening to the ESPN crew is like churning a manual drill into your skull.

Andy Reid calls a timeout, Mike Patrick says "that's a new rule this year, a coach can call a timeout."

That rule was in place last year.

I agree, these espn announcers are horrible. I have already found myself yelling "shutup" a few times.

BTW, what the hell was that play by McNabb at the end of the 1st half? :snide:

Hey guys, did you know that McNabb is playing with a sports hernia, an ankle problem and bruised ribs?

Thank God we've got Joe Theismann to tell us this kind of stuff. Every two minutes.

BTW, what the hell was that play by McNabb at the end of the 1st half? :snide:
That wasn't a bad play call, too bad Greg Lewis didn't know about it though.

That wasn't a bad play call, too bad Greg Lewis didn't know about it though.
but Westbrook looked confused too, which tells me that they weren't all on the same page.

but Westbrook looked confused too, which tells me that they weren't all on the same page.
And the offensive line just stood around. It was a botched play all around, no doubt. But it wasn't a bad play call, McNabb did catch the 'Skins off guard. If only he hadn't caught his teammates off guard too...

Listening to the ESPN crew is like churning a manual drill into your skull.

Andy Reid calls a timeout, Mike Patrick says "that's a new rule this year, a coach can call a timeout."

That rule was in place last year.
They dont lie when they say, "Joe Theismann's brains were in his leg." The worst experience I've had with football this year was dealing with the ESPN game during the Giants-Saints matchup. The entire crew must have had rug burns on their knees after that one, plus you wouldn't have noticed the Giants throttled them if you just listened to the broadcast.

Hey guys, did you know that McNabb is playing with a sports hernia, an ankle problem and bruised ribs?

Thank God we've got Joe Theismann to tell us this kind of stuff. Every two minutes.


Nothing compares to "He aint fast but they got quick" :biglaugh:

As much as these guys are annoying, i still get a kick out of the dumb things Theismann says that are followed by Paul McGurie responding with "Yeah Joe you just talked yourself out of another coaching job yet again"

That call by Andy Reid on 4th down, is about as bad as you'll ever see.

4th and 4 ... and they go play-action, which wasn't going to fool anyone. Then you have by far your best playmaker, Westbrook, standing on the sidelines.

Jets have a 1st and goal from the 3.

They run it on first down and don't get in, then decide to pass it on the next 3 downs. Are you kidding me? They had 4 downs to gain 3 yards. Should've just kept running it up the gut. Or at least used some play action or something. Two jump balls to the corner of the end zone? Come on now.

Horrible play calling by the Jets.

That call by Andy Reid on 4th down, is about as bad as you'll ever see.

4th and 4 ... and they go play-action, which wasn't going to fool anyone. Then you have by far your best playmaker, Westbrook, standing on the sidelines.
I think the Iggles were trying to show the Skins that they were going to pound the ball with Gordon to get the 1st but it was unbelievable to me, to take your best weapon off the field.

What's the over/under on ESPN talking about TO tomorrow and the difference he might have made in that game?

7 hours?





Anyways, I had to sit and watch my Packers lose to my girlfriend's Steelers.....yea, that wasn't cool.

BTW, anyone who can get a clip of LT breaking Ty Law's ankles (and subsequent Law searching for his jock), please post it because I can't get enough of it...thanks.

First off, great win by KC today.

Secondly, I'm just glad the CBS HD feed was actually HD. Last week I tuned into a game on CBS and the HD feed looked like total crap.

Agreed CBS HD for football needs some work. US Open HD was spectacular but the football is terrible compared to FOX Football HD

About damn time, looks like the Eagles are beginning to fall apart. Nice to see other teams in that division win. Honestly, Eagles can still make the playoffs, but Dallas, Washington, and New York are much stronger than last year.

This went from the easiest division to win to the toughest.

Colts and Pats tonight in NE.

Colts are at full strength with no real injuries and an improved defense(though they haven't been tested by a good offense yet). The Pats are as depleted by injuries as they've ever been, but Bruschi is back and he always makes good things happen.

Peyton Manning wants to win to get the monkey off his back that Belichick owns him, but considering the Pats are basically on a third string defense and have no offensive line at all, would it really be meaningful if he actually wins tonight?

I still think the Pats have a shot on veteran guile alone.

Well ****ing Corey Dillon just blew the game with a stupid redzone fumble...

They had the Colts where they wanted them, then that damn fumble turns it from 14-14 to 21-7...

The Colts are going to win and im going to go 14-0 on predictions.

One problem: I didn't bet on Pro line :cry: :cry: :shakehead :shakehead

The Colts are going to win and im going to go 14-0 on predictions.

Welcome to the club.

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...

That's not Manning's call he isn't the coach. It was sensible as it would have been a three touchdown lead

I'd say that this season is the equivalent of the NHL getting so injured that the Pittsburgh Penguins get 100 points and win the cup...

I'd say that this season is the equivalent of the NHL getting so injured that the Pittsburgh Penguins get 100 points and win the cup...

Yes, that's a great analogy. :shakehead Could you try to tone down the homerism a little?

hmm, both teams in last years super bowl are now 4-4...who woulda thought that.

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...

If the Pats would've gone down the field quickly, got a TD, onside kicked it, got another TD, and then repeated that scenario again, they would've been in the lead if the Colts just kicked it. Unlikely, but you never know what can happen, and Dungy's just playing it safe.

Also, like others have mentioned, it was Dungy's call, not Manning's.

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...i guess you missed the tampa/colts monday night game from a couple years back

your team got their ***** kicked

stop crying

That's not Manning's call he isn't the coach. It was sensible as it would have been a three touchdown lead

Exactly. The Colts were trying to make it a 3 TD lead. There was no disgrace about it, I'm sure Belichick would have done the same thing. The Colts have come back from a 3 TD on MNF before so they know anything can happen. ACR's just ticked off about the Pats losing, he always does this when the Red Sox and Pats lose.

Good for Peyton and the Colts to finally get over the Pats. Now he has to finish the job and win the SB. Everything is in their favor this year so they better take advantage of it. I'm looking forward to their game against Pittsburgh in a few weeks.

hmm, both teams in last years super bowl are now 4-4...who woulda thought that.
ummm, teams that make the superbowl rarely even make the playoffs the next year. The Pats are one of the few recent exceptions, I believe the other one was the Rams after they beat the Titans.

ummm, teams that make the superbowl rarely even make the playoffs the next year. The Pats are one of the few recent exceptions, I believe the other one was the Rams after they beat the Titans.

Okay, let's count how Super Bowl Champions did for the last 10 years following their win.

Made Playoffs
2004 Patriots
2001 Ravens
2000 Rams
1998 Broncos
1997 Packers
1996 Cowboys
1995 49ers

Didn't Make Playoffs
2003 Bucs
2002 Patriots
1999 Broncos

Okay, let's count how Super Bowl Champions did for the last 10 years following their win.

Made Playoffs
2004 Patriots
2001 Ravens
2000 Rams
1998 Broncos
1997 Packers
1996 Cowboys
1995 49ers

Didn't Make Playoffs
2003 Bucs
2002 Patriots
1999 Broncos
I was really going back to the last time the Broncos won.

Broncos/Falcons(both missed)
Rams/Titans(both made)
Giants/Ravens(Ravens)
Rams/Pats(both missed)
Raiders/Bucs(both missed)
Pats/Panthers(Pats)
Pats/Eagles(remains to be seen)

So 4 of the last 12 teams to compete in the superbowl have missed the playoffs the following year, with both of the last competitors at .500 it could become 14. That is 1/4 teams in the last 6 years to compete in the playoffs following a superbowl appearance.

hmm, both teams in last years super bowl are now 4-4...who woulda thought that.

Kinda like both the Raiders and Bucs missing the play-offs after being in theirs.

Lots of people thought the Eagles and Pats were going to fall notably this year. Pats more-so than the Eagles due to the number of players lost.

I'd say that this season is the equivalent of the NHL getting so injured that the Pittsburgh Penguins get 100 points and win the cup...
Wow, you can't seriously meant that? :shakehead

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...
But... but.... you told us that Rodney Harrison doesn't do cheapshots...

http://www.hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3548784&postcount=49

http://www.hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3548824&postcount=53

But... but.... you told us that Rodney Harrison doesn't do cheapshots...

http://www.hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3548784&postcount=49

http://www.hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=3548824&postcount=53

Homerism at it's finest.

Oh man, the Colts finally get the better of us, but they have to be *******s about it. They're just cheesing now. Up 20 with 5 minutes left and they're going for two. I wish Rodney Harrison were here just to do pull a Trent Green on Manning's disgraceful ***...
what do you mean pull a Trent Green?

Remember Harrison's hit on Green?

Remember Harrison's hit on Green?
no, was it in the game 2 weeks ago, or a long time ago when Green got ****ed up in pre-season with the Rams?

What game two weeks ago? New England haven't played Kansas City yet.

What game two weeks ago? New England haven't played Kansas City yet.
In his mind, they did. :biglaugh:

Kinda like both the Raiders and Bucs missing the play-offs after being in theirs.

Lots of people thought the Eagles and Pats were going to fall notably this year. Pats more-so than the Eagles due to the number of players lost.
really? because from what I remember, the Eagles were still the clear cut favorite in the NFC and by a pretty wide margine too.

as far as the Pats go, I know that more people probably did question them getting back to the Super Bowl because of the loss of some key players plus the loss of their offensive and defensive coordinators but I don't think alot of people expected them not to make the playoffs.

my point is, even if they weren't expected to make the Super Bowl, they still were considered very good teams going into this year, especially the Eagles.

What game two weeks ago? New England haven't played Kansas City yet.
ahhhh, I goofed big time. I was thinking Harrison was still a Charger for some reason.

really? because from what I remember, the Eagles were still the clear cut favorite in the NFC and by a pretty wide margine too.

as far as the Pats go, I know that more people probably did question them getting back to the Super Bowl because of the loss of some key players plus the loss of their offensive and defensive coordinators but I don't think alot of people expected them not to make the playoffs.

my point is, even if they weren't expected to make the Super Bowl, they still were considered very good teams going into this year, especially the Eagles.

If that is what you remember. then you must not have been paying very much attention this year.

Philadelphia is LAST in the NFC East. Heck, because they have yet to win a division game, they are a full 3 games out of even a WC spot. If you still think the Eagles are the clear-cut fav to win the NFC and by a wide margin, you are a homer to the Nth degree.

That you still consider the Eagles the better team is pretty laugable. See, while both teams are 4-4, at least the Pats are still 1st in their division (as opposed to LAST like the Eagles). Not only that, but they have yet to lose a division game so they are only 1-game out of WC contention even if they don't win their division.

They were considered very good teams going into the year, but they are not very good teams now. Plus, not everyone was sold on either team. Lots of people had the Eagles and Pats taking a tumble.

If that is what you remember. then you must not have been paying very much attention this year.
of course I didn't pay attention this year when I watched espn and the NFL network and almost everyone of the so-called experts picked the Eagles to win the division this year. there were mixed opinions on who would make it too the Super Bowl but the majority(that I watched) still liked the Eagles to make it back even though statistically, alot of the teams don't make it back.

Philadelphia is LAST in the NFC East. Heck, because they have yet to win a division game, they are a full 3 games out of even a WC spot. If you still think the Eagles are the clear-cut fav to win the NFC and by a wide margin, you are a homer to the Nth degree.
I am not an Eagles fan, I am a Cowboys fan. and its obvious NOW that the Eagles won't win the NFC East but too say that you thought the Eagles would be in last place right now is a joke.

That you still consider the Eagles the better team is pretty laugable. See, while both teams are 4-4, at least the Pats are still 1st in their division (as opposed to LAST like the Eagles). Not only that, but they have yet to lose a division game so they are only 1-game out of WC contention even if they don't win their division.

what are you talking about? I never said that I still consider the Eagles the better team, I was talking about before the season started. as for the Pats, who cares if they lead their division, it sucks. at this point, they're fate is really no better then the Eagles at this point because even if they make it too the playoffs, they will more then likely be on the road and be bounced by either the 1st or 2nd game.

They were considered very good teams going into the year, but they are not very good teams now. Plus, not everyone was sold on either team. Lots of people had the Eagles and Pats taking a tumble.
thank you, because that was all I was saying. before the season both teams were still expected to be the upper echelon of teams and be in the mix for the Championship game. if one of these two teams was struggling like this, you could understand it but the fact they are both 4-4 now is suprising...too me at least.

of course I didn't pay attention this year when I watched espn and the NFL network and almost everyone of the so-called experts picked the Eagles to win the division this year. there were mixed opinions on who would make it too the Super Bowl but the majority(that I watched) still liked the Eagles to make it back even though statistically, alot of the teams don't make it back.


I am not an Eagles fan, I am a Cowboys fan. and its obvious NOW that the Eagles won't win the NFC East but too say that you thought the Eagles would be in last place right now is a joke.



what are you talking about? I never said that I still consider the Eagles the better team, I was talking about before the season started. as for the Pats, who cares if they lead their division, it sucks. at this point, they're fate is really no better then the Eagles at this point because even if they make it too the playoffs, they will more then likely be on the road and be bounced by either the 1st or 2nd game.


thank you, because that was all I was saying. before the season both teams were still expected to be the upper echelon of teams and be in the mix for the Championship game. if one of these two teams was struggling like this, you could understand it but the fact they are both 4-4 now is suprising...too me at least.

My mistake. For some reason, I thought you meant now rather than in the pre-season.

Pre-season, every one pegged them to cakewalk through the NFC East and easily be one of the top teams. Now, no friggen way.

My mistake. For some reason, I thought you meant now rather than in the pre-season.

Pre-season, every one pegged them to cakewalk through the NFC East and easily be one of the top teams. Now, no friggen way.
very true....and I love it.