#1 for '06 draft

Who will be top prospects for the '06 draft?

theres a good chance that patrice cormier on the moncton gagnon beavers will be first pick...he made the team last season while he was only 14..and is looking very good this year considering hes playing players 3-4 yars older than him

i don't think cormier is '06 eligable.


EDIT: sorry, i thought he was asking for the top players from the Q eligable for the '06 NHL draft. i'm dumb.

Patrice Cormier - F - Moncton and Chris Doyle - F - ND Hounds will battle for #1 overall.

After that the next best players are: (not in order)

Maxime Sauve - F - Laurentides
Yann Sauve - D - Chateauguay
Allan Clow - D - Cornwall
Michael Kirkpatrick - F - Dartmouth
Nathan DesRochers - F - Charlottetown
Phillipe Bergeron - F - Jonquiere
Shawn Morton-Boutin - D - Amos
Antoine Tardif - G - Trois Riviere
Kevin Poulin - G - CCL
Alexandre Neron - D - SSF
Jordan Caron - F - ND Argos
Phillipe Cornet - F - Amos
Kelsey Tessier - F - Colorado Prep
Pascal Amyot - D - Academie St-Louis Prep

heard of some of them..........have you heard of Luke Adam?

heard of some of them..........have you heard of Luke Adam?

Yup, he plays for the St-John's Maple Leafs right?? Ill see him this weekend at the Monctonian.

I dont have a good read on the Newfoundland prospects yet, the kids I listed above were from NS, NB, PEI and Quebec. Ill get to see 4 of the 5 NFLD teams this weekend.

Adam is probably the best player on the team, even better than the overagers on the AAA leafs

Wasn't Tessier projected to go first awhile back?

Devon MacAusland, a 14 yr old for Moncton Flyers, is also consideration.

Devon MacAusland, a 14 yr old for Moncton Flyers, is also consideration.

He cant get drafted in this draft. He is 2007. I watched him yesterday and man can this kid play. I dont care if hes 5'06 that kid is a tank on skates. He is fearless and skilled. A bit wreckless but he is definatly a top 3 pick in 2007 along with Travis Randell of Nfld and Steven Anthony of Halifax.

Adam is probably the best player on the team, even better than the overagers on the AAA leafs

I liked Luke Adam, big kid, good hands and a nose for the net.

I really liked Mitchell Flynn though. If I could take any kid on the St-John's Maple Leafs it would be Flynn and trust me it would be a close battle. A lot of good kids on the Leafs.

I think about half their team is capable of playing Major Junior hockey.

In goal Kyle Downer and Evan Mosher are both capable. Mosher has higher upside and he made some impressive game saving stops against Markham Majors. He allowed 3 quick goals but after that he was lights out. Great glove hand. He needs to improve his mobility in the crease.

On D there are a few intriguing players.

Jeff MacRoberts is a huge kid, 6'03 210, i know some team will scoop him up considering hes probably better than Matt Boland was at the same age.

Nick Croft plays a steady game. Not much flash but he does the little things well and people noticed that yesterday.

Mitchell Flynn, anyones whos watched him knows what Im talking about. Kid has game. He is great defensivly. Takes the body well and uses his big frame. Also he is no slouch with the puck. He is always hard on the puck. Whether he is clearing the zone or shooting the puck he shoots/passes with high velocity, wich I love. He doesnt half/a$$ a clearing attempt, which is rare to see from young players. His point shot on the PP is also good, always low and tipable.

Alex Wall has some upside but he is a kid ill keep tabs on for next year. Didnt get a lot of icetime but he doesnt look lost. A bit on the small side though.

Up front there is a lot to like. Jonathan Reid and Chad Locke run the show. Which should be expected as both are 88 born players who could play Major Junior right now. Reid was a late cut at Fog Devils camp and Locke made Victoriaville but returned home.

Adam Molloy played alongside those 2 and he wasnt "leeching" off of them. He made some outstanding plays offensivly and he is still 14 (late 1990 born). There is a lot to like about his game.

Chad Earle is another kid who stood out. Lots of spunk and offensive ability. He is an 89 who I expect to really push hard for a roster spot in Major Junior next year if thats the direction he wants to take.

Luke Adam, as I said above, lots of size and skill. Hands of gold and when parked in front of the net is hard to move. Add to the fact that he is a good skater for a kid his size, 6'01 201, and he had a lot of scouts impressed and drooling :) Only weakness was his agility, his foot speed sloed him down when he had to turn quickly, which is normal for a player that size.

Vincent Paiment, Real Paiment's (Coach of the Fog Devils) son. He plays like the way his father coaches. Defensivly aware and likes to make some hits. I dont see much offensive upside but I like the style he plays and he plays it as well as anyone. He could crack a lineup next year because of his grinding abilities. Only downside is his skating but it really isnt that bad in the first place.

Brandon MacDoand, I liked what i saw of him. Hes got a big frame, 6'02 165, and good hockey sense and ability. Hes a 90 born and I doubt anyone would select him but I wouldnt be that surprised. He has high upside and he could be a nice project for a club.

All of that was just my opinion of course, im sure someone will disagree :)

I would think in answer to the Leafs fairing better this year is the fact that the Leafs have Locke, Reid and Bussey back and the first two are impact players for the Leafs team. Without them, I would say that the Leafs wouldn't have faired as well. Locke & Reid are a step above the rest (so to speak).

In regards to Mosher, I think out of the two goaltenders, he is the better one. I like to see a goaltender play the puck which he does fairly well.

It is also nice to see some of the up and coming talent of the Leafs get to play in the Prospects Game. They certainly picked a nice bunch of kids for that.

I do not agree with your comments on Adam. He has only played at this level for three months and over time, he will adjust and learn the ropes better. He is certainly going to be sought after IMO.

According to other people who were there, they thought the Markham game was the best as the team showed their mustard coming from behind to win and Mosher made excellent saves to keep the team in the running.

According to other people who were there, they thought the Markham game was the best as the team showed their mustard coming from behind to win and Mosher made excellent saves to keep the team in the running.

I agree. I watched the Markham game as a fan. It was great hockey. Leafs were down 3-1, rallied back to tie it 3-3 and scored the winner with about 40 seconds left in the 3rd.

EDIT: I should clearify, the Markham game wasnt the best 45 minutes (Monctonian had 3 15 min periods) the Leafs played, but as a fan that game was the most entertaining. The people from Newfoundland were pretty rowdy when that 4th goal went in.

Well we are all allowed our opinions but I disagree. Mosher gets caught lots of times ..hes good dont get me wrong but I think Downer is better technically and is more consistent. I dont know who you were talking to but everyone I talked to said the Markham game shouldnt have been a come from behind and that the St. John Game Vitos game was the best one they played. Reading back on all your posts I dont think you like Downer much anyway!! To each their own I guess.

I think I agree on Adam ..he is going to be a talent IMO...


And you are right it was nice to see the Leafs young ones get to play in the Prospect game. I hear they did well.


Downer vs. Mosher

A lot of people have been debating that for a while now. The only thing that alarms me about Downer is that he "flops" around too much. If there is a scramble around the net, or 3rd chance oppurtunities he is always down and out. It seems as though he throws all his technical ability out the window when the crease gets crowded. This can be fixed with proper coaching but that is 1 glaring weakness a lot of people I talked to noticed as well.

Since Downer is 16 and Mosher is 15 i prefer to compare Mosher this year to what Downer did last year and in my opinion Mosher is more polished. But they are still pretty young kids. Goalies dont peak until 25 and they are only 16 and 15.

If you watched the game you missed a goal..the Leafs won 5-3 . The Leafs scored first...but trailed 3-1 after first, the trailed 3-2 after second and then WON 5-3 after 3..go look at the game sheet

I heard Whiffen kept Central in a lot of the games played. Any comments on him? What about the other 3 NFLD teams besides St John's?

Wow Hockey,

I would guess if you were talking to your own people then they would tell you what you want to hear.

For someone based out of Halifax, you seem to be very knowledgeable of Downer vs Mosher and how they both play. How would that be if you just happened to be at the Monctonian watching the games? Quite obviously, you wouldn't have sized the two of them up that quickly.

I have absolutely no dislike for any of these boys. I wish each and every one of them all the best. It is nice to see some of the players from last year getting the recognition they deserve like Chad Earle and Nick Croft. I guess the same could be said to you for your comments about Mosher. Anyone who knows Mosher knows of his love and dedication and passion for being a goaltender so for you (as an innocent and totally unbias fan in the stands) I would wonder why you would make a comment about whether he wants to be "a goaltender or a defenseman?? Seems like a really off comment to me.

I would guess if the Saint John Vitos game was stellar then the semi-final game would be classified in the opposite direction. The Leafs are up 2-0 after the second and lose! But I guess that won't be discussed.

In the Markham game, you quoted the scores for each period and like I said, it was a come from behind game so your point was??

EvilClOwn14

AJ Whiffen is a very good goaltender. I had heard that both he and Curtis Black were above the rest at the U17 camp but as we all know, politics with hockey sometimes determines who gets what.

They have to pick (I think) at least 3 from every province so that sometimes can bump someone out just for geographical reasons alone.

no as a matter of fact im an ex newf playing hockey on the mainland (not right in halifax but close..gotta keep the idnetiity secret dont we??) and as a matter of fact I wasnt at the Monctonian..gotta get school work done sometime or Ill be warming the bench. I know both of em from back home..and no Im not really a chick..

I didnt say Mosher wasnt good..im not a downer..maybe you are a mosher..???come off it..be realistic..they are both great boys..both with a passion for the game and both great goalies..both with things they have to work on just like everyone..If they didnt have things to work on theyd all be playng somewhere else!We all have lots to learn about the game. so dont get your shorts in a knot. For God sake, its a place to have a conversation not make personal attacks!! you are brutal!! This is an OPINION forum.

As for AJ Whiffen..I hear also that he is playing good in the AAA Midget. Nice to see more teams. Also a great baseball player I think. I saw him play at a high school tournament last year and he played really well there. Hope he does well. LIKE I HOPE THEY ALL DO WELL

Oh and as for the semi final..the Leafs were down 2-1 according to Midget AAA site and hockeyscene....and no I was not there..but would have liked to have been

If you watched the game you missed a goal..the Leafs won 5-3 . The Leafs scored first...but trailed 3-1 after first, the trailed 3-2 after second and then WON 5-3 after 3..go look at the game sheet

MacDonald scored an empty netter...it slipped my mind. 13 hours of hockey and i forget 1 detail :)

How did travis randell do up there?

I also have seen flynn and adam play and when they were playing bantam last year the plays they did to set each other up was phenomenal :handclap:

I heard Whiffen kept Central in a lot of the games played. Any comments on him? What about the other 3 NFLD teams besides St John's?

Central:

AJ Whiffen -- Like you said, he played really well. I like him a lot but i only watched him play 1 15 minute period so i dont have an excellent read on him.

Travis Randell -- Hes a 91 born so i wasnt expecting him to dominate, yet he did. Best player on Central regardless of age. This kid is going to be good.

Tri-Pen:

Justin Parsons -- Towering defensmen. Hes pretty raw though and hes only 15. When compared against other big 15 year old dmen he isnt quit as polished as a Colin Gorman (Halifax MacDonalds) or Jeff MacRobets (St-John's)

Brent Skiffington -- I believe he played on the NFLD U16 team at the Atlantc Challenge. I liked what I saw of him. He is easily knocked around though. Only 150 lbs according to the roster package.

Nathan Hutchins -- He works hard. Pesky player. ***** disturbs. Other teams had a pretty good hate on for him after playing against him. Not sure on his offensive potential as It was only my first time watching him.

Western:

Ryan Simms -- Had never heard of him before the weekend but he played really well. Big goaltender. Kept Western in the games I watched as they were pretty much dominated.

Donnie Churchill -- Played well. Lanky defensmen. I will have to keep tabs on him as he showed flashes of solid play. He is only 15.

Labrador wasnt there unfortunatly.

EvilClOwn14

AJ Whiffen is a very good goaltender. I had heard that both he and Curtis Black were above the rest at the U17 camp but as we all know, politics with hockey sometimes determines who gets what.

They have to pick (I think) at least 3 from every province so that sometimes can bump someone out just for geographical reasons alone.

I would also include Michael Muir among Black and Whiffen at the U17 camp. It will be tough to pick who will be there with Black. I think it will come down to how many of each province are at other positions and the 89 group from NS is pretty deep so Muir may be left off.

Lala, you are right - Michael Muir is a very good goalie. Did Andre .... LeClerc attend the U17 camp as well? I think he is now playing Jr. A.

Wow Hockey - that was the most irrational post I have ever read. Why did you delete two of your posts - the ones where you basically put Evan Mosher down by suggesting he needs to make up his mind whether he is a goalie or a defenseman? For someone who thinks both are good - I don't think that comment suggests that you do.

I know of both boys but am not related to either one. It is the same as I don't know A.J. Whiffen but I certainly came on here to defend him. If you had left your posts on - the way anyone would have read those posts would have suggested you were at the Monctonian or you would not have made the comment about Mosher as if you were there.

You are right, it is an opinion board but when an opinion is so totally derogatory as that was and the fact that you then turned around and deleted at least two posts in which you expertly spoke of the games, you got me wondering.

Yes, you should keep your identity to yourself!

By the way, the game that I was talking about was the semi-final game and if you would like to recheck the Hockeyscene.com site, you will see that after two periods of hockey, the score was 2 - "0" after 2 periods of play.

I would also suggest that if you want to be making posts here, you should probably leave them here instead of posting and then deleting them.

I remember reading the Telegram earlier in the year.. Stephen Simms of Western and Brandon Street of Tri-Pen .. seemed like there was lots of hype about these players. Anyone catch any of the action with any comments? :dunno:

Not sure of Simms but I did read an article on Travis Randell and Brandon Street - both are absolutely awesome players for their age. I would guess playing at the AAA level will help both of them in a big way although they have travelled off the island fairly often with private hockey groups.

It is too bad Street was injured but knowing his skill level and desire to play, it won't take him long to get back at it once he gets the cast off.

Justin Parsons is horrible.....just big and Skiffington doesn't get knocked around alot, just when he does it's usualyl a big hit.......If he's to small how will Maxime Sauve ever get drafted eh.?

Justin Parsons is horrible.....just big and Skiffington doesn't get knocked around alot, just when he does it's usualyl a big hit.......If he's to small how will Maxime Sauve ever get drafted eh.?

You should really calm down :)

There is a difference between being small and being easily knocked off the puck.

Crosby is small by NHL standards but you cant take the puck from him.

Not all small guys are easly knocked off the puck.

Plus I never said Skiffington was too small. I said he is only 150 lbs. Meaning he needs to bulk up...like 95% of 15 year olds. Plus i did say "I liked what i saw of him" Perhaps you forgot to read that part.

skiffington needs to put on muscle, but he has great balance and speed. Also, parsons is a smart player with the puck and he is as solid as a rock but very slow to boot

You should really calm down :)

There is a difference between being small and being easily knocked off the puck.

Crosby is small by NHL standards but you cant take the puck from him.

Not all small guys are easly knocked off the puck.

Plus I never said Skiffington was too small. I said he is only 150 lbs. Meaning he needs to bulk up...like 95% of 15 year olds. Plus i did say "I liked what i saw of him" Perhaps you forgot to read that part.


i agree with you, i wasn't trying to say it like that....i respect your opinion however i don't like the mindset people have about small people being sort of a chance to take if you pick one........sure someone 220 will knock someone 150 off the puck going full tilt........couldnt the opposite happen, therefore being 150 pound isn't that big of a deal

i agree with you, i wasn't trying to say it like that....i respect your opinion however i don't like the mindset people have about small people being sort of a chance to take if you pick one........sure someone 220 will knock someone 150 off the puck going full tilt........couldnt the opposite happen, therefore being 150 pound isn't that big of a deal

Im with you. I dont really look at size when it comes to forwards. Dmen i do more so, but if they can skate well and have a good stick they can compensate for their lack of size.

Did Amyot Pascal of Academie St-Louis go to the same high school as Alex Picard?Because I am a manager of a high school hockey team and we played Academie St-Louis in a tournament in Portland, Maine this past weekend and where Picard went to and was wandering if it was the same one that Amyot Pascal plays for.

What chances do people in Atlantic Canada have of being drafted even if they aren't playingt AAA.........In Newfoundland especially, aside from St John's and Tri-pen, the team are run like *****.

Did Amyot Pascal of Academie St-Louis go to the same high school as Alex Picard?Because I am a manager of a high school hockey team and we played Academie St-Louis in a tournament in Portland, Maine this past weekend and where Picard went to and was wandering if it was the same one that Amyot Pascal plays for.

I know Amyot left SSF of the Quebec Midget AAA league to go to Academie St-Louis about 6 weeks ago.

Im not sure where Alex Picard went to school. I know he never played for a school team at that age. He played BAA for Quebec at 15 and then at 16 he played Midget AAA for SSF. Then 17 he was in the Q.

What chances do people in Atlantic Canada have of being drafted even if they aren't playingt AAA.........In Newfoundland especially, aside from St John's and Tri-pen, the team are run like *****.

Slim. But that doesnt mean those players should give up. Looking back at the last 4-5 Q drafts the players from NFLD who were drafted are mostly from Tri-Pen and St-John's, plus ones that play out of province like Escott, White, etc

NFLD is underscouted to begin with and that is AAA, if you arent playing AAA its hard for people to notice you but that aside you shouldnt give up.

Slim. But that doesnt mean those players should give up. Looking back at the last 4-5 Q drafts the players from NFLD who were drafted are mostly from Tri-Pen and St-John's, plus ones that play out of province like Escott, White, etc

NFLD is underscouted to begin with and that is AAA, if you arent playing AAA its hard for people to notice you but that aside you shouldnt give up.

I completely agree with you, but it makes it that much harder to get noticed by the placfes that you want to go. Most people in my area have to go to showcass to get noticed and half the time the showcases aren't that great calibre or run that well....

What chances do people in Atlantic Canada have of being drafted even if they aren't playingt AAA.........In Newfoundland especially, aside from St John's and Tri-pen, the team are run like *****.

I was able to take in a couple games from the AAA tournament here in Fredericton last year down the hill at the LBR.

I can tell you that there appeared to be a lot of scouts, and other management possibly in the crowd. You could tell by the fact that they all stood next to each other, all wearing their teams respective jackets.

The teams represented, where more than just the Atlantic teams. Guys that appeared to be from Baie-Comeau, and others were also present.

I know Amyot left SSF of the Quebec Midget AAA league to go to Academie St-Louis about 6 weeks ago.

Im not sure where Alex Picard went to school. I know he never played for a school team at that age. He played BAA for Quebec at 15 and then at 16 he played Midget AAA for SSF. Then 17 he was in the Q.


There is not a lot of high school team in Quebec City just (2). And they are not as good as MAAA, when u are under MAAA you can play school hockey and civil hockey, so maybe Amyot plays BAA and also for Academie St-Louis. For Picard, I'm not sure but it would be very probable that he played there because this school is very near of his home.

I was able to take in a couple games from the AAA tournament here in Fredericton last year down the hill at the LBR.

I can tell you that there appeared to be a lot of scouts, and other management possibly in the crowd. You could tell by the fact that they all stood next to each other, all wearing their teams respective jackets.

The teams represented, where more than just the Atlantic teams. Guys that appeared to be from Baie-Comeau, and others were also present.

I wasn't talking about the fact that there weren't scouts watching aaa in atlantic canada and quebec, i was saying how hard it was to get noticed in NFLD because some of the aaa programs are run horribly

On the mooseheads proboards it has the list of players listed to go high, grouped by letters(A highest). Any comments?

Yeah its the list released by the QMJHL scouts.

Not a bad list. Some iffy rankings but its purley based on opinion.

You should really calm down :)

There is a difference between being small and being easily knocked off the puck.

Crosby is small by NHL standards but you cant take the puck from him.

Not all small guys are easly knocked off the puck.

Plus I never said Skiffington was too small. I said he is only 150 lbs. Meaning he needs to bulk up...like 95% of 15 year olds. Plus i did say "I liked what i saw of him" Perhaps you forgot to read that part.



Crosby's legs are like tree trunks though...He's very strong on the puck.

On the mooseheads proboards it has the list of players listed to go high, grouped by letters(A highest). Any comments?


How do you get into this?

look at what he is replying to

ooooopsss my bad i think the website is www.moosetalk.proboards33.com

good list but i think there are many players who could move up/down/or be added over people.

its a letter system not a number system so all the a's that are listed that could take up to almost 2 whole rounds and so on........

its a letter system not a number system so all the a's that are listed that could take up to almost 2 whole rounds and so on........

Yah the Q doesnt start ranking in order until I think April.

They divide the players into groups.

A being 1st and 2nd round, then they list those "A" prospects in Alphabetical order.

back to the #1 pick who do u say will be the number one, does it depend on what the team who gets the pick needs or will cormier or adam definitely go #1...who do u say?

Any comments?

Yeah. Fredthemoose1 isn't as bad a homer as you'd first expect. Ok...he is.

is there a lottery for the bottom 3 teams to c who gets the first overall pick???

Yes.

Its actually just bottom 2.

There are 2 conferences in the Q. 8 in Atlantic and 10 in Quebec. 7 of the 8 teams from the ATL conference make the playoffs and 9 of 10 from the Quebec make the playoffs. The #9 seed from Quebec plays the conference playoffs in the Atlantic conference to make 8 teams on each side.

Only 2 teams miss the playoffs. 50% chance of getting 1st pick.

I must be one of the worst judges of talents ever! I went to the Beavers/Wolverines game on Thursday and I thought Cormier was invisable. But yet at the end of the night Patrice had two points.
What can I say, I also watched Brett Hull with the Golden Flames and thought he was a lazy floater that had no NHL career in his future. :sarcasm:
So QMJ scouts must look for things that I don't see. :confused:

I must be one of the worst judges of talents ever! I went to the Beavers/Wolverines game on Thursday and I thought Cormier was invisable. But yet at the end of the night Patrice had two points.
What can I say, I also watched Brett Hull with the Golden Flames and thought he was a lazy floater that had no NHL career in his future. :sarcasm:
So QMJ scouts must look for things that I don't see. :confused:

Cormier is also 15 playing against 19 and 20 year olds so often times like young players they disappear every now and then.

Cormier has an amazing shot, very quick release. He also has patients when he has the puck, something a lot of youngsters dont have.

Plus he is 6'02 190, he is 15, has tonnes of raw talent and he plays physical. He isnt the type of player that will razzle and dazzle, he is kind of like Brett Hull...you dont notice him until the puck is behind your goalie. But the rest of his game is also up to par. He skates well, hits and is a good passer.