And his name is.... Belak!
Belak seems to have replaced Lumme as the local scapegoat, and cause for all of the worlds problems.
He can't fight, he's overpaid, he can't play D, he can't play forward, he takes too many penalties, he argues with the referee too much.
At this rate he will surely be the reason we didn't win the cup in 93 and any other year we've been close!
:D :D :D
Johnny Danger 10-13-2003, 11:57 PM and he can't even skate :P
Epoch 10-14-2003, 01:11 AM Saying he can't fight is a big insult because that's the one thing he's good at.
loveshack2 10-14-2003, 01:48 AM Dang, and here I was hoping you'd say Aki Berg. If he doesnt start to improve fast he's not going to have a very fun year seeing his name in the papers for all the wrong reasons.
Epoch 10-14-2003, 04:16 AM Berg isn't much better than Belak,that's for sure.;):p
Joey24 10-14-2003, 04:22 AM I really don't think you could pin Belak in the same boat as Lumme.
Lumme was horrid for years on the leafs Quinn is simply relying on Belak a little more then he should be. Quinn Rolled the 4th line a little to much and I think that may have something to do with the age of some of the players but that gives Belak more Ice time then he deserves and kinda giving him more responsibility then he should have.
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sluggo* 10-14-2003, 04:43 AM Well lastnight Quinn hinted that the Leafs might trade Belak, that could be the plan and why they protected Perrott in the waiver draft.
Joey24 10-14-2003, 05:04 AM Well lastnight Quinn hinted that the Leafs might trade Belak, that could be the plan and why they protected Perrott in the waiver draft.
I never saw the full game and I guess I missed that comment by quinn what exactly did he say?
Saying he can't fight is a big insult because that's the one thing he's good at.
*Gasp*
He's good at something?
Alas, we've been mislead all these years, Belak isnt descended from hell to cause ruin among the Leafs in every respect! ;)
Well hell did recently freeze over (Arankys-No fighting comments) so I suppose anything is possible.
p.l.f. 10-14-2003, 05:53 AM Belak can fight, thanks to Domi.
I thought Berg played pretty well, for a change.
Belak can fight, thanks to Domi.
Two positive comments towards Belak in one thread, this ought to go into the history books.
BTW- Anyone want to place bets on whether Berg becomes the newest scapegoat should we lose Belak?
p.l.f. 10-14-2003, 06:00 AM unfortuneatly, we need berg's size
RiellyGood 10-14-2003, 06:27 AM *Gasp*
He's good at something?
Come on now, don't you remember his 2 game scoring streak last year? :joker:
sluggo* 10-14-2003, 06:48 AM Joey24 - He just said that Belak keeps taking penalities, some are his fault some are bad calls, but he keeps getting them and that it may be best to trade him.
loveshack2 10-14-2003, 06:55 AM unfortuneatly, we need berg's size
I agree. But unless he can stop making so many boneheaded mistakes Im afraid it won't be long before he becomes the next scapegoat. Hopefully McCabe will return soon and he'll get bumped out of the top-4 to cut his ice-time.
sluggo* 10-14-2003, 07:03 AM "unfortuneatly, we need berg's size"
I don't think the Leafs need his size. Jackman and Kondratiev play just as phyiscally (if not more so) then Berg does. Once McCabe comes back I'd rather have McCabe, Kaberle, Jackman, Kondratiev, Klee and Marchment on defense then having Berg in there somewhere.
Epoch 10-14-2003, 07:53 AM *Gasp*
He's good at something?
Alas, we've been mislead all these years, Belak isnt descended from hell to cause ruin among the Leafs in every respect! ;)
Well hell did recently freeze over (Arankys-No fighting comments) so I suppose anything is possible.
:lol:
I didn't know Rand could be a smart-ass!:joker:;)
Did you realize that Perrott in junior with the Oshawa Generals once scored 30 goals and 32 assist in just 59 games a few years back..
The time of the goon that can only fight is gone.. Perrott like Domi can play and if you need the toughness its there as well..
Belak you are the Weakest Link GOOD BYE..
And his name is.... Belak!
Belak seems to have replaced Lumme as the local scapegoat, and cause for all of the worlds problems.
He can't fight, he's overpaid, he can't play D, he can't play forward, he takes too many penalties, he argues with the referee too much.
At this rate he will surely be the reason we didn't win the cup in 93 and any other year we've been close!
:D :D :D
STUPID PENALTIES
Part of this can be traced back to the reams of stupid penalties the Leafs regularly incur.
The Caps got on the board last night when Wade Belak took a totally unnecessary elbowing penalty on Jeff Halpern midway through the first period. Nine seconds after the play, Peter Bondra tied the game 1-1.
"It seems every time I hit a guy, I get an elbowing penalty," Belak said. "You try to play physical. I hit him with my shoulder, not my elbow."
Leafs coach Pat Quinn agreed and for good measure seemed to buy into the Leafs- are-victims-of-overzealous-refereeing theory.
"In Wade's case, I'm not sure it was a penalty," he said.
Quinn facetiously said he might have to trade Belak to buy Belak some slack with officials.
All well and good, but Belak applied what looked like an elbow to finish the play. He has beat a pretty steady path to the penalty box and more times than not, with ample cause.
TheJackal 10-14-2003, 10:41 AM Did you realize that Perrott in junior with the Oshawa Generals once scored 30 goals and 32 assist in just 59 games a few years back..
The time of the goon that can only fight is gone.. Perrott like Domi can play and if you need the toughness its there as well..
Belak you are the Weakest Link GOOD BYE..
It has been more than a few years considering he is 27!
TheJackal 10-14-2003, 10:46 AM As much as everyone is bashing Belak, Belak wasn't the one in the Box for the winning goal!! He is an enforcer and is always going to get penaltys on close calls. Sundin hasn't shown up for a game in my opinion since they were in Sweden. But don't see too many people talking ill of him.
As much as everyone is bashing Belak, Belak wasn't the one in the Box for the winning goal!! He is an enforcer and is always going to get penaltys on close calls. Sundin hasn't shown up for a game in my opinion since they were in Sweden. But don't see too many people talking ill of him.
With the exception of that penalty, Sundin was one of the better players last night.
:lol:
I didn't know Rand could be a smart-ass!:joker:;)
Ask Dutchy, it can be enjoyable to make light of some of the more amusing things I come across on here.
What W17glen ...That makes no sense..
You had better explain your point of view fully in detail so the rest of us Leaf fans can understand...
Sundinisagod 10-14-2003, 12:26 PM Two positive comments towards Belak in one thread, this ought to go into the history books.
BTW- Anyone want to place bets on whether Berg becomes the newest scapegoat should we lose Belak?
To me it looks like Marchment will be a contender as well. The worst d last night, out-played by 20 yr old Kondratiev...Berg and Marchment will be torture to watch all yr. Hopefully one of them gets bumped out of the top 6.
What's the deal with this w17 guy. All I see is: The administrator has decided that this person should be quiet for a while.
Same thing from his posts within 2 days ago. How can he post if (although I don't know what he posted) if his account has what appears to be a suspension on it?
Sundinisagod 10-14-2003, 12:30 PM As much as everyone is bashing Belak, Belak wasn't the one in the Box for the winning goal!! He is an enforcer and is always going to get penaltys on close calls. Sundin hasn't shown up for a game in my opinion since they were in Sweden. But don't see too many people talking ill of him.
It seems whenever Sundin takes a bad penalty, they get scored on. Considering what Washington got away with, the call was marginal imho.
Sundin played a spirited game, not registering a goal but outplayed Jagrl.
What's the deal with this w17 guy.?
What you can't read those Thought invoking posts of W17glen...??
That's strange... maybe get w17glen to repost them to see if it works now for you..
:joker:
W17glen...
No way ...I disagree BIG TIME...
WTF??? :confused: Same thing. Is it just me that can't see his posts?
Once again all I see is:
The administrator has decided that this person should be quiet for a while. "See post. Moderators only"
RAND!!! What's going on.
Dammit, this is drivin' me nuts. :madfire: What's being said that everyone is disagreeing with. :dunno: How come I'm being kept in the dark but yet The Messenger for example can read it.
Dammit, this is drivin' me nuts. :madfire: What's being said that everyone is disagreeing with. :dunno: How come I'm being kept in the dark but yet The Messenger for example can read it.
Hey DAR ..
PM Dutchy or Rand ....they will fill you in..
Also Dar ... I have a magic 8 ball that lets me understand W17glen posts .. Perhaps you should get one.. :joker:
You need to read between the lines to make any sense out of what w17glen is saying..
Hey DAR ..
PM Dutchy or Rand ....they will fill you in..
Also Dar ... I have a magic 8 ball that lets me understand W17glen posts .. Perhaps you should get one.. :joker:
Have one on my desk. Tried it, just got "Maybe" twice. :mad:
Have one on my desk. Tried it, just got "Maybe" twice. :mad:
I just sent you a PM ....It Lets you know what mine said..
Hope that helps...
W17glen..
Come on man... You think by yelling louder I am going to be able to understand you any better...
BTW ...Stop wearing out this Smilie :rant:
Man ...
Its hard to have a logical discussion with you, I have no idea what you are talking about...w17glen
Are you speaking English even...???
Unless you start posting in complete Paragraphs no one will understand you..
:teach:
Epoch 10-14-2003, 01:23 PM This Is pretty funny...:D
This Is pretty funny...:D
Gotta agree there.. :joker:
Epoch 10-14-2003, 01:33 PM w17glen is jokes(funny) man!
Icewind Dale 10-14-2003, 05:32 PM Anyone else find it funny that w17glen keeps posting even though the majority of posters on the site can't read his posts?
mmmhockey 10-14-2003, 05:41 PM To me it looks like Marchment will be a contender as well. The worst d last night, out-played by 20 yr old Kondratiev...Berg and Marchment will be torture to watch all yr. Hopefully one of them gets bumped out of the top 6.
I can't see signing Marchment and bumping him from the top 6.
ToMaLe 10-15-2003, 02:15 PM i can honestly say this right now........unless the leafs dress my grandmother there will never be a Leaf as bad a Lumme....period!!..im not a Belak fan either but at least he can fight and play up front...Lumme couldnt play either position....
Epoch 10-15-2003, 03:09 PM i can honestly say this right now........unless the leafs dress my grandmother there will never be a Leaf as bad a Lumme....period!!..im not a Belak fan either but at least he can fight and play up front...Lumme couldnt play either position....
Lumme used to be a good d-man....but he should have retired a few years ago.....
nordique 10-15-2003, 04:31 PM The difference is that a 4th line goon/grinder can't possibly have a huge negative effect on a team...he doesn't play enough. On the other hand, a defenceman taking a regular shift can KILL you (Lumme, Larry Murphy, Jamie Macoun) if he's on at the wrong time.
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