GDT - Columbus at Nashville 10-18

Don't know how busy this will be today given the Buckeyes, but figured I'd start the thread for those who are around.
Any one read the Dispatch today? Should be an interesting group of forwards.

Sanderson-Fritsche-Vyborny
Nash-Marchant-Nederost
McDonnell-Pirjeta-Ling
Shelley-Hartigan-Jean-Luc

Freddie B. starting

I'm going to say Columbus loses a close one (2-1) with Vyborny, Pirjeta, Hartigan, Gord Murphy and Gerard Gallant all getting injured.
Jackets trade beer and pucks for Maltais and Kallio and there is much rejoicing.

Don't know how busy this will be today given the Buckeyes, but figured I'd start the thread for those who are around.
Any one read the Dispatch today? Should be an interesting group of forwards.

Sanderson-Fritsche-Vyborny
Nash-Marchant-Nederost
McDonnell-Pirjeta-Ling
Shelley-Hartigan-Jean-Luc

Freddie B. starting

I'm going to say Columbus loses a close one (2-1) with Vyborny, Pirjeta, Hartigan, Gord Murphy and Gerard Gallant all getting injured.
Jackets trade beer and pucks for Maltais and Kallio and there is much rejoicing.

It looks worse then some of our exibition lineups.

I hear Shane Benderas coming up when Brathwaite gets injured today.

It looks worse then some of our exibition lineups.

I hear Shane Benderas coming up when Brathwaite gets injured today.

He'd have to ride his bike up from the UHL to get there. The way he's playing so far this season, we certainly wouldn't spring for the ticket.

Fritsche on the first line is going to be interesting. I wish I could see the game to see how he responds.

I question the call-up of Hartigan though, the guy sucks!!! Actually, to be honest, if we're bringing him up, I'd like to showcase him on the first line. Let's see what he's got.

I question the call-up of Hartigan though, the guy sucks!!! Actually, to be honest, if we're bringing him up, I'd like to showcase him on the first line. Let's see what he's got.


:dunno: I dont know why Hartigan was called up. The Best I could come up with was that if Fritiche falters, Hartigan will be able to play on the 1st Line.

:dunno: I dont know why Hartigan was called up. The Best I could come up with was that if Fritiche falters, Hartigan will be able to play on the 1st Line.

Why not try Nedorost back at centre?

*looks over his shoulder for Ned63*

:dunno: I dont know why Hartigan was called up. The Best I could come up with was that if Fritiche falters, Hartigan will be able to play on the 1st Line.

This was what I got out of the call up too.

I think he is there to provide a C to play on the 1st line if Fritsche doesnt seem to be able to handle it.

This was what I got out of the call up too.

I think he is there to provide a C to play on the 1st line if Fritsche doesnt seem to be able to handle it.


Best of luck to you guys. Here's hoping there's no injuries. I think the Preds outplay the BJ's but Brathwaite steals the show and helps Columbus to a 2-2 tie.

Best of luck to you guys. Here's hoping there's no injuries. I think the Preds outplay the BJ's but Brathwaite steals the show and helps Columbus to a 2-2 tie.

I agree on the part about our teams hopefully avoiding serious injuries tonight. You guys deserve to have a healthy team after what you went through last season; it appears we are on pace to match you re: injuries this year.

I have a bad feeling about this game from a Jackets perspective; the offensive chemistry, except for Nash and Marchant, will not be there.
Preds grind out a 3-1 win.

I think this is a potential "statement game" for both our clubs.

The Jackets had high hopes (justifiably imo) for this season, and already have seen injuries take their toll. That, along with the monkey on the back of winning at home but not on the road make this a game the Jackets can use to say "See? NOTHING is getting in our way. We're going to win on the road, DESPITE injuries, and continue our fast start".

On the other hand, Nashville has said "No Excuses" is the theme this year. We, as well, would like to see a fast start, and have a history of playing poorly coming off of big wins (Thurs. nite V. StL). We also have a history of overlooking teams supposedly "below us", and (again, wrongly imo) the Jackets are thought to be "below us".

Seems to me somebody's gonna leave the rink tonight muttering "Same ole' ____________s", and the other team's gonna make it clear they AREN'T the "same ole _________s"

/bc

I'm obviously out of the loop here, cause I just heard about Knutsen's injury, and am frankly ready to do some serious drinking.http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/eek.gif I mean, how many are we gonna friggin' loose???? This is really getting ridiculous.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm obviously out of the loop here, cause I just heard about Knutsen's injury, and am frankly ready to do some serious drinking.http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/eek.gif I mean, how many are we gonna friggin' loose???? This is really getting ridiculous.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could be worse...we could be the Kings.

both teams have alot of younger guys in key spots. I agree with a 2-2 tie

4-1 win by the Preds. Freddy lets in a few softies in the first due to rust and jitters, and the CBJs makeshift lines cough up the puck numerous times in the neutral zone.

If they pull out a point out of this game, I'll be highly impressed.

Could be worse...we could be the Kings.

:joker:True!!!

If they pull out a point out of this game, I'll be highly impressed.

Don't be so quick to sandbag. The Preds are ripe for the picking. The other teams are getting chances; Vokoun has just shut them down. If he has a semi-off night, we are going to give up a good amount of goals. Plus, we are going to have to be clicking on PP and PK to win. We have something like 2 ES goals in 3 games. Our first two goals of the year (in the 2nd period of the first game) were even strength goals. Since then, we have scored 6 more times. None were even strength (4 PP, 1 SH, 1 EN). In other words, we have been held scoreless on ES for 8 of the 9 periods of hockey we've played. We haven't scored an ES goal in 148 minutes and 10 seconds. Our PP has looked great (4 for 18), and our PK has kept us in games (2 for 15). We are taking stupid penalties at the wrong time. We gave St. Louis 7 power plays including 6 in the last two periods. They only scored on one. If they find a way to pot another, then it's bad news for Nashville. We are very vulnerable, and unless we find a way to score ES, we are very, very beatable.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?goto=postid&postid=339565

Don't be so quick to sandbag. The Preds are ripe for the picking. The other teams are getting chances; Vokoun has just shut them down. If he has a semi-off night, we are going to give up a good amount of goals. Plus, we are going to have to be clicking on PP and PK to win. We have something like 2 ES goals in 3 games. Our first two goals of the year (in the 2nd period of the first game) were even strength goals. Since then, we have scored 6 more times. None were even strength (4 PP, 1 SH, 1 EN). In other words, we have been held scoreless on ES for 8 of the 9 periods of hockey we've played. We haven't scored an ES goal in 148 minutes and 10 seconds. Our PP has looked great (4 for 18), and our PK has kept us in games (2 for 15). We are taking stupid penalties at the wrong time. We gave St. Louis 7 power plays including 6 in the last two periods. They only scored on one. If they find a way to pot another, then it's bad news for Nashville. We are very vulnerable, and unless we find a way to score ES, we are very, very beatable.

We've seen our forward lines. Out of the 12 skaters for tonight 6 were full time NHLers last season (5 if you take out Shelley who only plays 4 minutes a game). Four players played in the AHL for most of the season last year. We have a converted defenseman playing forward. And we have an 18 year old centering the first line. Throwing these guys on the ice with hardly any practice is going to cause alot of turnovers and alot of rubber going toward Freddie.

Not to mention it's a road game. Had this game been in Columbus, I'll be inclined to think more positive. Besides, I am the "pessimistic jackets fan" for a reason ;) It's called being a realist. :D

Actually Smokey, our last goal against St. Louis was at even strength, even if it was an empty netter.

Nashville wins, 3-2 in OT.

Nash and Kelsla, both powerplay goals. Legwand nets 2, Hartnall 1. We get outhit and outhustled, but Shelley picks up 15 mins worth of penalties to keep us in a physical frame of mind.

We fly out tonight happy with our point.

Nashville wins, 3-2 in OT.

Nash and Kelsla, both powerplay goals. Legwand nets 2, Hartnall 1. We get outhit and outhustled, but Shelley picks up 15 mins worth of penalties to keep us in a physical frame of mind.

We fly out tonight happy with our point.

I'm happy with a point, even though we got the loss. With our depleted lineup, a point is almost as good as a win.

Any word on how Fritsche handled first line duty?

I'm happy with a point, even though we got the loss. With our depleted lineup, a point is almost as good as a win.

Any word on how Fritsche handled first line duty?The game just started. :)

Let's go, Jackets!!

The game just started. :)

Let's go, Jackets!!

I should lay off the pilsner...

OR...

I could've just read 'prediction' in the heading...an editor that fails to read, that can't be a good sign. Y'all should look at replacing me ;)

Sounds like it's Freddie against the Preds, right now.

Sheesh.

Where's everybody at? I thought we were gonna do the 'game thread' chatter thing.

I just got here; how's it going?

I'm happy with a point, even though we got the loss. With our depleted lineup, a point is almost as good as a win.

Any word on how Fritsche handled first line duty?

Espen Knutsen is playing 1st LIne Center.

Fritiche is playing 4th Line Center.

Espen Knutsen is playing 1st LIne Center.

Fritiche is playing 4th Line Center.

Dang.

I would've loved to see him play a few shifts on the first line.

Well, the last half of the period looked good. Brathwaite looks real good, thank God. Glad to see Knutsen in there, too.
They should have kept Ling and Shelley together, though, IMHO.

Anyone want to go over to the Pred board and talk *****?:) This is a rivalry.

I'll be here as soon as I can get the radio connection going.

Anyone want to go over to the Pred board and talk *****?:) This is a rivalry.
:rant: :rant:

Dang.

I would've loved to see him play a few shifts on the first line.

The Lines are really skewed

Sanderson-Knutsen-Vyborny
Nash-Marchant-McDonnell
Ling-Prijeta-Nedorost
Shelley-Fritiche-Grand-Pierrie.

SCOOOOOOREEE !!!

Denis Arkhipov
Assists: Scott Hartnell, Vladimir Orszagh :handclap:

SCOOOOOOREEEEEEE !!

Nashville Rem Murray
Assists: Greg Johnson, Jordin Tootoo

: :bow: :bow:

SCOOOOOOOOREEEEEE !

Greg Johnson
Assists: Marek Zidlicky, Martin Erat


:rolleyes: :yo:

CBJ Scores...

McDonnell, from Marchant!!

I had too look twice to make sure I was in the right forum.:)
The Preds have played a good game and have seemed to keep most of the momentum on their side.
But, it ain't over yet......

I have a feeling this is gonna be one of those games where we let them back in...

I have a feeling this is gonna be one of those games where we let them back in...

I have that feeling, too, but I'm not holding my breath....:)

What the he!! happened to Spats?

Jacket PP.

Spats back on the PP---guess he's ok.

Alright. 5-on-3 for a minute-plus. Let's do it here!!

Vibes!!!! From Spats and Sydor!!

Nothing like a guy holding two sticks with 15 Seconds left and no call. Refs stole that game from us.

Its the equivilant of being punched in the face. Im sure there going to fine him.

:rant:

Damn!! Good effort though, after going down 3.

I got a funny feeling about Wed. in Detroit......a spanking of the Wings??

Tough road game with a lot of guys we needed on the shelf. Nashville did exactly what they needed to do here: Win this game.

All I will say is that it's nice to be left with this bad taste in my mouth. It's a great rivalry.

All I will say is that it's nice to be left with this bad taste in my mouth.


What the ****? :dunno:

Damn!! Good effort though, after going down 3.

I got a funny feeling about Wed. in Detroit......a spanking of the Wings??

Yeah, I was glad to see them fighting to the end. Not a bad game, just a little flat, at times.
Brathwaite looked good, goals aside, and in his defense, our defense looked lost for awhile.

Refs stole that game from us.

Yeah. They stole every single shot on goal that we missed and every one we allowed. They stole the entire first period. They stole the squandered chances. They injured 3 of our top forwards.

They sucked up a storm, sure. But there was no chance we'd have scored in the last 15 seconds if that would have been called.

You want an example of refs stealing one for real, look at last season against Detroit. Tonight was not that bad. At least they called (or didn't call) the first half of the game fairly. Notice I say "fairly" instead of "well". ;)

What the ****? :dunno:

The opportunity to have a rivalry like we do. That we were competitive enough to hang in that game and make it close. That the team is going places and losing this game is a bummer instead of a foregone conclusion. Etc...

The opportunity to have a rivalry like we do. That we were competitive enough to hang in that game and make it close. That the team is going places and losing this game is a bummer instead of a foregone conclusion. Etc...

He's got a point.

I agree the refs should have made some calls in the final 15 seconds of the game. We held several sticks but I don't think it had a major effect on the outcome of the game. If the call that penalty, when we touched the puck, play would have been stopped we would have had a faceoff. Preds win it and the game's over. I thought the Nederost diving had much bigger effect. It led to a PP then a 5-3 and the final goal for Columbus.

why can C-bus not play a road game for a full 60 mins??

the first period was absolutely horrendous, regardless if neither team scored, Nashville dominated the first period and it was reflected by shots on goal. The first half of the second period stunk on ice too, three goals in the span of like 5 mins, Nashville was hitting and skating way better then columbus, finally, the second line came out and they got the puck deep, columbus goal, after that, columbus carried the play until the final buzzer. the mountians of penalties nashville took at the end was a early birthday present and columbus didn't deliver, enough with the refs already, had columbus played a respectable first period, the game would have ended in a tie or a win for cbj.

the first period was absolutely horrendous, regardless if neither team scored, Nashville dominated the first period and it was reflected by shots on goal. The first half of the second period stunk on ice too, three goals in the span of like 5 mins, Nashville was hitting and skating way better then columbus, finally, the second line came out and they got the puck deep, columbus goal, after that, columbus carried the play until the final buzzer. the mountians of penalties nashville took at the end was a early birthday present and columbus didn't deliver, enough with the refs already, had columbus played a respectable first period, the game would have ended in a tie or a win for cbj.
That sums up the entire game perfectly.

Nashville dominated in the first pd and a half. Columbus dominated in the second 30 mins.

Good Luck against Detroit...I don't know if they play again before your game, but they got beat tonight by MA Fleury and the Pens (I love it!)!!!

Yeah, I was glad to see them fighting to the end. Not a bad game, just a little flat, at times.
Brathwaite looked good, goals aside, and in his defense, our defense looked lost for awhile.I didn't see the game, but listened to George and Bill---sounded like Freddie was playing all alone for most of the 1st period.

I wondered if the Preds were skating 7 guys at a time. Just didn't sound like he was getting any help.

The opportunity to have a rivalry like we do. That we were competitive enough to hang in that game and make it close. That the team is going places and losing this game is a bummer instead of a foregone conclusion. Etc...I think this sums it up nicely. After getting buzzed by the Preds in the first, and then giving up 3 goals in the first half of the second, the CBJ hunkered down and made a game of it, with an excellent chance to tie it up at the end.

Added to the way the CBJ held on to one-goal leads against Van. and Chi., IMO this short-handed, come-back effort bodes well for the future.

A previous poster alluded that Columbus lost a few forwards during the game? If so whom?

I'm proud of Nashville. We played a lot of the game without 3 of out top 6 Dmen (Eaton, Kloucek and Schnabel). We had 4 dmen in their with a combined 8 games of experience under their belts (Zidlicky [3], Hamhuis [3] , Hutchinson [0], and Brookbank [2]). That's a great effort from both shorthanded clubs.



**Edit** had to edit the games played total.

If this is a rivalry someone needs to tell the Nashville fan (s). Some humerous quotes from today's Columbus Dispatch:

. A half-crowd of 10,499 received personal service from vendors.

and

last night was "Faith and Family Night" in GEC. The promotion drew a host of Baptist churchgoers to the audience. It’s a good thing, too. Attendance has been waning here and a smallish crowd was on hand, especially for a Saturday night game against a hated rival.

What's going on in Nahville, I would have thought they had more season ticket holders than that?

A previous poster alluded that Columbus lost a few forwards during the game? If so whom?

We did not lose forwards in that game. We lost them in previous games.
Currently injured at forward are Trevor Letowski (broken finger), Tyler Wright (hyperextended elbow), and Andrew Cassels (bruised back). Injured on defense - Duvie Wescott (ankle - he's day to day). Not expected to play in the game was Espen Knutsen, but he did skate.

Come on, those refs were terrible. Sure the hold in the last 15 seconds didnt mean much. But that call on Walser with, what, 3 mins left. After all that they let go, that call was terrible. And there was so much clutching and grabing the whole game. It was a pathedic excuse for officiating and did have a role in the outcome of the game.

Sure we played flat for stetches, but so did they.

It was a pathedic excuse for officiating and did have a role in the outcome of the game.


Agreed. The 5-3 goal shouldn't have happened. Nederost blatantly dove (here's to the wonderful state of the NHL) and gave Columbus an underserved 5-4. Then the call on Timonen was legit. But like the Walser call, if you are going to make that call, make it every time it happens. Walser clearly interfered with Hartnell. Hartnell got a shot on Walser away from the play and when the puck came towards Hartnell, he got retribution. I'll say this though, you want them to call it like they did. If they clamped down on clutching and grabbing, Nashville, not Columbus, is going to benefit. We were the faster skating team, and the early part of the game would have been much worse if they had called it tight.

If this is a rivalry someone needs to tell the Nashville fan (s).

Unfortunately, outside of the players and a select group of fans, Nashville doesn't consider Columbus it's rival. It's unfortunate and isn't right, but it's the way it is for now. They would much rather consider Detroit our rival. And while we generally give Detroit all they can handle (and then some) down here, you guys are still our main rival.

The crowd situation is sad. When you have a very non-traditional market, you have to win to bring in fans once the novelty wears off. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to keep on winning. For one reason or another, we haven't stepped up to the necessary level required to keep them coming. This season should have been different. The only people qualified to talk on the Nashville Predators are it's diehard fans and members of the team. The media, both National and locally, know very little about Predator's hockey and made rash conclusions that this season would be a failure. This rubs off on those fans teetering between buying tickets and not buying tickets. There was a considerable amount of negativity about Nashville's abilities heading into this season. It was accurately reflected on every non-Nashville sector of this board. Barry Trotz was considered one of the top coaches to be fired first. Nashville was considered a lock by many to contend for last in the NHL. Our goalie, considered by most Nashville fans to be our best player, wasn't considered a top 15 goalie by a notable hockey publication (he was rated 19th). This negativity manifests itseft and could be found in a lot of places in Nashville before the season. It's inexcusable but when you realize that most everyone outside of a knowledgeable few thought Nashville was destined for failure, it's hard to get a fanbase excited.

And in the past, we have been a very boring team. We played a defensively finesse style. We didn't hit, we got hit. We prefered the pokecheck over the body. We clutched and grabbed more than pushed and shoved. And we didn't create offense. Hopefully that is changing. We are as physical as they come and, while we won't ever score a lot of goals under Trotz, we should atleast make games exciting. If we win, they will come. You can't get someone to come otherwise. Atleast not in a non-traditional market where the novelty has long worn thin.

You keep playing like you played in the first period and you'll have a building full of fans.

Zzz...a whole post on this topic and you fail to mention the tons of stories on Tootoo? So he's from a very remote part of Canada...ok? Do I need to see his story in every magazine and newspaper I pick up? The Tootoo overkill in the press is all your head about from Nashville in the offseason, hardly anything about Zidliky coming in or the rest of the new look D.

You keep playing like you played in the first period and you'll have a building full of fans.

Agreed. That's what it will take. Not fancy marketing schemes or the like. With the Titans so damn successful over the past 4 season coupled with the lagging economy, it's been recipe for disaster for the Preds. Winning is the only cure.

Zzz...a whole post on this topic and you fail to mention the tons of stories on Tootoo? So he's from a very remote part of Canada...ok? Do I need to see his story in every magazine and newspaper I pick up? The Tootoo overkill in the press is all your head about from Nashville in the offseason, hardly anything about Zidliky coming in or the rest of the new look D.

That's just it, the whole story was sentimental points about Tootoo and how he had overcome this. Never about how much better the Preds could be. Even when mentioning the D, they only talked about the new faces and how things would be different. The word better never came about; the best they could muster was different. Different doesn't attract fans. Plus, our media isn't exactly hockey knowledgable. It's easier to write a 'feel-good' story about Tootoo than an indepth look at the improvements the Predators made in the offseason.

Tootoo is awful. Im still waiting to see him check someone without leaving his feet. Has he picked up any charging calls yet this year? I dont forsee a Dino Ciccerelli or Theo Fluery (in thier primes) in him yet. Does anyone see otherwise?

Tootoo is awful. Im still waiting to see him check someone without leaving his feet. Has he picked up any charging calls yet this year? I dont forsee a Dino Ciccerelli or Theo Fluery (in thier primes) in him yet. Does anyone see otherwise?
The best thing about Tootoo is 29 other teams hate him........

Tootoo is awful. Im still waiting to see him check someone without leaving his feet. Has he picked up any charging calls yet this year?
No, no charging calls in 5 games. And no charging calls in 6 preseason games either.

The best thing about Tootoo is 29 other teams hate him........Actually, only 5 teams hate him right now. Anaheim, Dallas, St.Louis, Columbus, Chicago. Atlanta will Thursday (if they don't from preseason). See a trend?? ;)

I don't see what the big deal is with Tootoo. He's small, charges alot of people and chips in the odd goal. Sounds like Tyler Wright to me. The only thing he did on Saturday was check Rusty twice behind the play (both no calls, go figure that one).

I don't see what the big deal is with Tootoo. He's small, charges alot of people and chips in the odd goal. Sounds like Tyler Wright to me. The only thing he did on Saturday was check Rusty twice behind the play (both no calls, go figure that one).
Klesla had the puck, both checks were as clean as can be, again, sour grapes.

You also forgot to mention Tootoo can and will drop the gloves with anyone too.

I don't see what the big deal is with Tootoo. He's small, charges alot of people and chips in the odd goal. Sounds like Tyler Wright to me. The only thing he did on Saturday was check Rusty twice behind the play (both no calls, go figure that one).

Like Trigg said, both hits were clean. The refs were looking right at him. Refs love to teach rookies a lesson. Rusty had the puck (or had just gotten rid of it) on both hits.

At first, I was confident the first hit was a charge, but upon watching the tape at home, he doesn't charge. Live, it looked like he skated full speed from the bench. On the replay, you can tell he glides for most of it, then explodes at the end. Tyler Wright? Sure, keep telling yourself that. I don't even think the President of Tyler's fan club would be so naive.

Like Trigg said, both hits were clean. The refs were looking right at him. Refs love to teach rookies a lesson. Rusty had the puck (or had just gotten rid of it) on both hits.

At first, I was confident the first hit was a charge, but upon watching the tape at home, he doesn't charge. Live, it looked like he skated full speed from the bench. On the replay, you can tell he glides for most of it, then explodes at the end. Tyler Wright? Sure, keep telling yourself that. I don't even think the President of Tyler's fan club would be so naive.
So Tootoo's hit was behind the play, Zidlicky's hit was a charge, I'm guessing Hamhuis' hit was too low, but yet none of them were taking to task for it, what does that say about Columbus?

You also forgot to mention Tootoo can and will drop the gloves with anyone too.

Yeah, but he cant do much when he does drop them. Sounds more and more like Wright all the time.

Keep telling yourself that.....

Yeah, but he cant do much when he does drop them. Sounds more and more like Wright all the time.

How many times have you seen him? So far he's gotten the better of most the scraps I've seen.

Jay-sus! Predlie fans will have you believe Tootoo is Bob Probert, Keith Tkachuk, Bryan Marchment, and Jeremy Roenick rolled into one!

The guy has played a grand total of 5 NHL games and scored 2 points. Ease up off his nuts a tad....I'm sure he's starting to squirm by now.

Jay-sus! Predlie fans will have you believe Tootoo is Bob Probert, Keith Tkachuk, Bryan Marchment, and Jeremy Roenick rolled into one!

From what I've seen, he is. Until I see otherwise, I wish he was our cooler than James Bond, Superfly and Kung Fu all rolled together player instead of a division rival.

He's a great story for the NHL and the Preds. I for one hope he does very well in 76 games a season.

From what I've seen, he is. Until I see otherwise, I wish he was our cooler than James Bond, Superfly and Kung Fu all rolled together player instead of a division rival.

He's a great story for the NHL and the Preds. I for one hope he does very well in 76 games a season.

Thanks for the compliment. Tootoo is a good solid player and a workhorse on the ice. He's never going to score 30 goals or nab 40 helpers but, when it's all said and done, he might be the best pest in the league. The most frustrating thing about him is it's hard to get him back. He's rocked several players and recieved very little in return.

From what I've seen, he is.

Based on his Tkachuk/Roenick-like offensive production so far this season? :dunno:

Your comment about Tootoo being a "great story" speaks volumes about everyone's praise of this kid. People are so tingly about his "great story" that they heap praise upon praise on the guy when he has, in fact, had very little in the way of an actual NHL career.

When he can develop an act other than jumping off the bench and taking a run at the opposition's best player, he'll start to be seen as an actual NHL player. Until then, he'll just continue to be judged by his "great story" label.

How many times have you seen him? So far he's gotten the better of most the scraps I've seen.

Who has he fought?

I was standing litterally about 10 feet away in the rookie game where he was less than impressive against one of our scrubs. He also wasnt very dominant against a team our rookies (who were very unimpressive themselves.)

He's a great story for the NHL and the Preds...

I cant wait for the 3 page feature: "Tootoo becomes first player of Inuit decent to receive charging major." Sub headline: "'I couldnt hit them without jumping. Theyd kill me,' forward says."

By the way, is the fact that he is such a great story supposed to imply that Inuits cant play hockey? Hes a good natural athlete who had the drive and determination to make it to the NHL. Why does his race come into play? Every year a player who is a natural athlete and has the drive and determination makes it. No stories about them? Because theyre white or black?

I cant wait for the 3 page feature: "Tootoo becomes first player of Inuit decent to receive charging major." Sub headline: "'I couldnt hit them without jumping. Theyd kill me,' forward says."

By the way, is the fact that he is such a great story supposed to imply that Inuits cant play hockey? Hes a good natural athlete who had the drive and determination to make it to the NHL. Why does his race come into play? Every year a player who is a natural athlete and has the drive and determination makes it. No stories about them? Because theyre white or black?

Anytime you are the first of your race, it's a rather large story.

Keep waiting for that page 3 feature. Every one of his detractors ***** about how he charges. Funny, NHL refs, who have never been known to let rookies play, haven't call him on it yet.

Keep waiting for that page 3 feature. Every one of his detractors ***** about how he charges. Funny, NHL refs, who have never been known to let rookies play, haven't call him on it yet.

Let's not go too far here. These are the same officials who overlooked Dallas Drake for years. Some guys get away with questionable hits from day one until well after their first big free agent contract. The kid may be fun to watch but let's hold off on bestowing him sainthood.

As far as the people who want to diss him go, I'm enjoying something nice for the press to talk about. Sort of like when the local media and others talked about a kid named Dan Fritsche during the preseason [If Fritsche was Inuit, or Martian or whatever, he would be getting the same press. Would you be talking about him the same way?]. We could be talking about Atlanta losing 2 kids, the CBA, Gaborik's hold out and Zherdev being pressed into service. Would that be more favorable?

Lighten up and enjoy the sport instead of just the guys on your roster. May I suggest Kiel McLeod as an outlet?

So far, Dallas Drake, Jamal Mayers, Klesla (last preseason), and Mike Danton are his listed fighting majors.

Say he doesn't hit clean, he leaves his feet, takes too many steps what ever, he knocks players on their arses and usually draws a few panalties a game. He was all in Prongers head. So I'll take him, I could care less where he's from. If he was on your team, you would love him.

Say he doesn't hit clean, he leaves his feet, takes too many steps what ever, he knocks players on their arses and usually draws a few panalties a game. He was all in Prongers head. So I'll take him, I could care less where he's from. If he was on your team, you would love him.

Very true. I thought Tootoo looked impressive, and you've got to appreciate any player that gives it his all, every shift.
Nor do I have a problem with guys who love to knock other guys down. It's part of the sport, and tends to get the fans into the game.
Tootoo rocks. (so far, at least):p

...If he was on your team, you would love him.

He is. And I do like Tyler Wright.

So far, Dallas Drake, Jamal Mayers, Klesla (last preseason), and Mike Danton are his listed fighting majors.

Other than Drake... :rolleyes:

Other than Drake... :rolleyes:
Here, I'll type slower.......Other.........than.........Drake..... ....would........be.........Mayers.......Klesla... .......and........Danton........

Here, I'll type slower.......Other.........than.........Drake..... ....would........be.........Mayers.......Klesla... .......and........Danton........

Screw typing, try reading slower. Im rolling my eyes at the entire list except for Drake. Genius. :rolleyes: That one was all yours.

Screw typing, try reading slower. Im rolling my eyes at the entire list except for Drake. Genius. :rolleyes: That one was all yours.

Who would you like to see him fight? I'm sure Laraque is available. His schedule is decently empty, I'm sure he could work Tootoo in. How about Fedoruk? Shelley? He's not going to impress you with who he fights because he isn't stupid. I'd bench Tootoo before I let him get in a fight with Laraque. The type of players he is going to tussle with are pests with fists. Brendan Morrow comes to mind as a potential option. If you are expecting to see a who's who of hockey enforcers, guess again. Enforcers fight other enforcers (with a few notable exceptions). Tootoo is not an enforcer.

You also forgot to mention Tootoo can and will drop the gloves with anyone too.

Hmmm....this comment doesn't seem to imply that Tootoo's fights have to fall under certain criteria....Pests, but not an enforcer, middleweights, but not heavyweights, white, but not black....

It's OK....we've all overvalued our players at some point. It's a common fault of a true fan. Hell, I thought Nedorost belonged on our team.

Hmmm....this comment doesn't seem to imply that Tootoo's fights have to fall under certain criteria....

Um, DJ - the first comment was made by Triggrman, the other you refer to by SmokeyClause. While it is hard to believe that the Preds have multiple fans, and attendance records seem to support this, it appears to be the case here.

Does anyone else here think that all this Tootoo hating on the board is reminicent of the people bashing Cassels because he came here? We get the point already! Preds fans like him (and so do I because of what he's done with his time in the NHL so far). CBJ fans don't (because of Preds fans and the media, from what I can tell) because he isn't proven and they love to argue with division rivals.

Does that sum it up? If anyone here thinks they are going to change anyone else's mind - get over it! You won't!

Why are we still talking about this game? It happened four days ago, the Preds outplayed us for the half the game and we outplayed them for the other half. Big deal, it's one game out of six against these clowns. However, once we win the next game, be sure to post all the messages and pictures of hits on the Preds boards just to be spoiled sports and rub it in their faces.