Moose Update For Week Of 10/12/03 - 10/18/03

fergo
10-19-2003, 07:23 AM
As requested by Mizral (and I just happened to ask to do it :p), here's a summary of how Vancouver's farm club--the Manitoba Moose--did this past week. I'm open to any suggestions on how to make this report better (what I could add, what I could do away with, etc.). I'm also open to any questions you may have about the Moose, and I'll try to answer them as best I can.

Anyways, onto the report. I hope you enjoy reading it. :)
Record this year: 1-2-1-1
Rankings: T-2nd in the North Division
T-5th in the Western Conference
T-12th in the AHL

Power play rank: 6 for 28 (21.4%), 7th in the AHL
Penalty kill rank: 18 for 25 (72.0%), 25th in the AHL

TOP FIVE SCORERS LAST WEEK
Player POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW S PCT
Fedor Fedorov RW 4 4 2 6 +1 18 2 0 0 10 40.0
Ryan Kesler C 4 2 2 4 +1 4 0 0 1 5 40.0
Jimmy Roy LW 4 1 2 3 +2 13 1 0 0 3 33.3
Nathan Smith C 4 0 3 3 +2 4 0 0 0 6 0.0
Chris St. Croix D 4 1 1 2 +2 4 0 0 0 2 50.0

View the rest of last week's stats here (http://members.shaw.ca/fergorama/moose/stats_101203_101803.txt).

TOP FIVE SCORERS THIS SEASON
Player POS GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW S PCT
Fedor Fedorov RW 5 5 5 10 +1 18 3 0 0 12 41.7
Kirill Koltsov D 5 2 3 5 +1 6 2 0 0 6 33.3
Ryan Kesler C 5 2 2 4 +2 6 0 0 1 7 28.6
Pat Kavanagh RW 5 0 4 4 0 7 0 0 0 10 0.0
Jimmy Roy LW 5 1 2 3 +2 15 1 0 0 6 16.7

View the rest of this season's stats here (http://www.pointstreak.com/framed/prostats/teamplayerstats.html?teamid=8932&seasonid=271).

SIGNIFICANT STREAKS
Player Type/length Started/ended
Fedor Fedorov PTS; five 10/11/03 -->
Nathan Smith A, PTS; three 10/15/03 -->
Manitoba Moose Winless; three 10/15/03 -->

INJURIES
Player Injury Date Out for
Dallas Eakins Elbow 10/11/03 Four-to-six weeks
Tomas Mojzis Finger 10/11/03 Two weeks
Brandon Nolan Back 10/13/03 One week
Ryan Kesler Ear 10/15/03 Missed 0 games*

* -- Returned from injury.


Record last week: 1-1-1-1

LAST WEEK'S RESULTS
Date H/A Result
10/13/03 Home 6-2 win over St. John's

The Manitoba Moose started off their week with a rematch against their
opening night opponent, the St. John's Maple Leafs. After suffering a
heartbreaking 5-4 defeat in their season debut to Toronto's affiliate,
the Moose were out for revenge, and they got it in a big way. Rookie
Ryan Kesler scored twice and added two assists in Manitoba's 6-2
victory over the baby Leafs. Fedor Fedorov continued his strong play,
scoring two goals (one on the power play) and adding an assist, while
recently signed Brandon Nolan picked up his first point (an assist)
before leaving his debut with a back injury.

Date H/A Result
10/15/03 Away 1-1 tie with Milwaukee

After splitting the holiday weekend series with the baby Leafs, the
Moose headed off to the land of cheese and bratwurst, Milwaukee. A
sparse crowd of 2,332 people witnessed the Moose/Admirals game at the
Bradley Centre, though those who attended saw an exciting goaltenders'
duel between Tyler Moss and Brian Finley. Moss stopped 36 of 37 shots
and Finley pushed aside 23 of 24, both making show-stopping saves
during the 1-1 tie. Fedor Fedorov scored Manitoba's only goal midway
through the game to extend his point streak to three games and increase
his lead in the AHL scoring race.

Both team squandered great chances to increase their leads. First,
Scottie Upshall cross-checked Ryan Kesler in the head late in the first
period. Kesler got cut for 15 stitches, while Upshall got handed
five-and-a-game (and later, a one-game suspension by the league) for
his vicious act. Manitoba didn't get very many shots off during their
five-minute powerplay, and paid for it midway through the third when
Milwaukee tied the game. The Admirals had a couple of chances late in
the game to go ahead, with Chris St. Croix taking a high-sticking
penalty with less than 15 seconds left in regulation, and Fedorov
causing a bad giveaway in the overtime period (which luckily the
Milwaukee player got ahead of himself and the puck on the play).

Date H/A Result
10/16/03 Away 4-3 OT loss to Chicago

After struggling to a tie on the slushy ice in Milwaukee, the Moose
made their way to Chicago and the AllState Arena (aka The Ashtray, as
smoking is allowed in that building) to face their former IHL rivals,
the Wolves. The Moose took the early lead with Martin Grenier getting
his first goal in a Moose uniform. It was all Chicago after that until
the end of the second, with the score 3-1 Wolves. In the third, it was
the Jimmy Roy show, as he scored a power play goal and added an assist
on Chris St. Croix goal, much to the dismay of his adoring Chicago
"fans"*.

Unfortunately, it was not meant to be for Manitoba on this night, as
Fedor Fedorov (who picked up an assist earlier in the evening) took
down Wolves d-man Shawn Heins and was called for hooking by referee
Gordon Dwyer, even though the play was whistled down long after Fedorov
picked up the puck and went in on a breakaway. The Wolves took
advantage, with Simon Gamache getting a loose rebound beside Manitoba's
net and beating Alex Auld for the game-winner. Another tough loss for
the Moose on the road...something they hoped wouldn't continue on their
way to the Rock.

* -- Jimmy Roy has been a thorn in the side of the Wolves and their fans since the IHL days,
and Roy has developed a "fan" club of sorts amongst the Chicago crowd. Alas, not the flattering
type of fan club you might be thinking, but one to make note of his "turtling" ways. :p

Date H/A Result
10/18/03 Away 3-1 loss to St. John's

Familiarity breeds contempt...and did it ever between these two teams,
as this was the third time in a little over a week the two teams had
met. A total of three fights took place in the game (Grenier/Brown,
Roy/Newbury, Ready/Harrison), all in the first period! In total, both
team accumulated 89 penalty minutes.

For the first time all year, Manitoba didn't score the first goal,
and things didn't get much better from there, as St. John's put home
the next two goals in the game. Tyler Moss had no chance on any of
them, as his defencemen hung him out to dry. Fedor Fedorov had another
strong game, scoring on the power play in the third to cut the lead to
3-1, but Sebastien Centomo held his ground the rest of the way.

Manitoba's penalty-killing killed them, as they let St. John's score
two power play goals in the game. It didn't help that they only
capitalized on one out of eight PP opportunities themselves. With such
a crammed schedule (11 games in 21 days this month), they won't get too
much time to fix their problems at killing penalties (see rating
at the top of the page to see how bad they are).

NEXT WEEK'S GAMES
Date Team Game Time Broadcast
10/19/03 at St. John's 1:35 p.m. CT CJOB (http://www.cjob.com) (radio)
Sportsnet (http://www.sportsnet.ca) (TV)*
10/22/03 vs. Hamilton 7:30 p.m. CT CJOB (http://www.cjob.com) (radio)
10/24/03 vs. Hamilton 7:30 p.m. CT CJOB (http://www.cjob.com) (radio)

* -- Digital Cable or Satellite: 1:30 PM CT (live)
Sportsnet West: 8:30 PM CT
Sportsnet Ontario: 7:30 PM ET
Sportsnet Pacific: 7:30 PM PT
Sportsnet East: 7:30 PM AT

galiano
10-19-2003, 07:35 AM
Hey this is a great report. Thanks for all the work you put into it and keep them coming. Some things that stats don't tell are line combinations, pp and pk units. Any way to mention this ?

It's really great to get Moose information so thanks again.

Mizral
10-19-2003, 07:37 AM
Excellent, Fergo! Even better than I imagined it'd be.

I'll be tuning into the game tonight for sure.

cyrisweb
10-19-2003, 07:41 AM
Thanx for all the work.
Lets get a little more detailed on the players now..
Fedor is picking up a ton of points but is he looking good elsewhere? Is he trying hard on the backcheck at least? Hows Koltsov doing. Looking better than then his performance in Vancouver? What the heck happened to Reid?

fergo
10-19-2003, 08:35 AM
Hey this is a great report. Thanks for all the work you put into it and keep them coming. Some things that stats don't tell are line combinations, pp and pk units. Any way to mention this ?

It's really great to get Moose information so thanks again.
Line combinations have been a little tricky to keep track of this season, because Stan Smyl keeps shuffling all the lines around. Like, for example, last night he paired Nathan Smith with Fedor Fedorov and Jimmy Roy for part of the game, but then reverted back to the old pairing of Roy-Kesler-Fedorov. As well, Brandon Reid was with Justin Morrison on the fourth line early on before putting him back with Ready and Kavanagh. Now, before anyone takes this as Reid falling out of favour with the coach, that's not the case. Smyl's just experimenting with lines, and was just trying different combos to liven things up (seeing as Manitoba hasn't won the past three games). Expect more changes today.

I'll give out what lines have been used for the most part so far, but again, keep in mind that these lines aren't set in stone--especially with injuries having hit the Moose hard early on:

Ready-Reid-Kavanagh
Roy-Kesler-Fedorov
Komarniski-Smith-Bouck
(rotating forward)-Nielsen-Morrison

Obsut-Grenier
Koltsov-Jokela
St. Croix-Vydareny

Thanx for all the work.
Lets get a little more detailed on the players now..
Fedor is picking up a ton of points but is he looking good elsewhere? Is he trying hard on the backcheck at least? Hows Koltsov doing. Looking better than then his performance in Vancouver? What the heck happened to Reid?
Detailed on every player? You know how long this report would be if I did that? :eek: I don't want to make it look like I have NO life at all. :p I'll look at maybe doing a summary of who's doing good and bad every week...and if time permits, maybe a player-by-player evaluation.

As for the players you mentioned:
-- Fedor Fedorov
Well, everyone knows what he's doing offensively, but the worry is indeed the backcheck. So far this year, he's participated in that aspect of the game, and has earned compliments from both Stan Smyl and Eric Crawford on how he's been playing in both ends. So it's safe to say he's living up to what he was supposed to be.

-- Kirill Koltsov
Is performing alright, but evidentally wasn't taught the word "defence" back in his native Russia. He loves jumping up into the play (as evidenced by his output the first two games of the year), but that forces someone to cover for him. That's why Mikko Jokela is paired with him now, because Jokela takes care of his own end before jumping up. Could almost be said to be Manitoba's version of Sopel and Ohlund (though I'm sure Koltsov doesn't trip over his skate laces every game). :p

-- Brandon Reid
Had a point in his first two games. Isn't actually playing bad (stats don't tell the whole story), but he's having a tough time getting things going offensively this year. As mentioned above, he's on a line with Ready and Kavanagh, and Kavy's the only one really doing anything offensively so far on that line. They're getting shots away and all, but nothing's getting through the goaltender. I'm sure the flood gates will open soon for him...it's just a matter of when.

cyrisweb
10-19-2003, 08:47 AM
[QUOTE=fergo] I'll look at maybe doing a summary of who's doing good and bad every week...QUOTE]

That would be cool.

orcatown
10-19-2003, 08:58 AM
Thanx fergo - great job.

Impressions from here is that Moss may have taken #1 Goalie position from Auld. Also its really too bad for the Moose that Baumgartner got picked up. Think he would have had a great year in Manitoba and helped stablize a relatively young defense.

Anyhow I think the idea of this thread is great. However if somethng really significant comes up - like a major player movement- could still bring this up separately.

cc
10-19-2003, 09:38 AM
how has grenier looked hockey wise and fighting ability?

Connecticut
10-19-2003, 11:17 AM
Great update. By the looks of things it's been the Moose's PK that's let them down so far this year. Maybe we should send Lindgren down for a 2-week conditioning stint and get things back on track.

One other thing, it would be cool if you could include the NHL affiliation of the teams the Moose play - I managed to figure them out this time around but if it's not much trouble then just put the NHL team name in brackets or something. Thanks again.

orcatown
10-19-2003, 12:34 PM
Lindgre just had back surgery so he won't be going anywhere.

Thought Auld looked great today.

fergo
10-19-2003, 12:49 PM
Thanx fergo - great job.

Impressions from here is that Moss may have taken #1 Goalie position from Auld.
I wouldn't say that yet. Stan Smyl is sort of rotating them due to the tight schedule this month (11 games in 21 days). However, if the Moose were still in the IHL without an affiliation, Tyler Moss would be the #1 goaltender, hands down. No knock on Alex Auld, but I'm sure if given the choice at this point in time, the coaches would put Mosser in there.

Also its really too bad for the Moose that Baumgartner got picked up. Think he would have had a great year in Manitoba and helped stablize a relatively young defense.
Agreed. It was sad to see him get picked up in the Waiver Draft, but it's a good opportunity for him. Him and Jaroslav Obsut made a great first pairing, and Baumer would've provided good leadership for the youngsters, as well as being a wonderful PP quarterback like last year.

how has grenier looked hockey wise and fighting ability?
Hockey-wise he's alright. I think he's still getting adjusted to the Moose/Canucks style of play, but I think he's starting to get there with it. He's only had one minus game (two plus games) this year, so he's holding his own in the defensive end so far.

Fighting-wise, he's only gotten into three fights going into today's game. I say only in a sense because with Dallas Eakins and Tomas Mojzis out with injuries, Grenier's had to keep his cool, or else Manitoba would be down to four or five d-men (depending on who's dressed) for at least five minutes. Manitoba can't afford that, and Grenier knows it. Anyways, he's won at least two of the three fights (both against Mike Brown), but they weren't decisive wins, and admittedly weren't really big fights, either.

Great update. By the looks of things it's been the Moose's PK that's let them down so far this year. Maybe we should send Lindgren down for a 2-week conditioning stint and get things back on track.
:joker: Yeah, the Moose PK has been a bit of a joke this year, but it doesn't help that they rank near the top in penalty minutes this year. The penalty-killers don't get a chance to rest.

One other thing, it would be cool if you could include the NHL affiliation of the teams the Moose play - I managed to figure them out this time around but if it's not much trouble then just put the NHL team name in brackets or something. Thanks again.
Yes, and I apologise for not doing that. I will put the affiliates alongside the teams somewhere in there next week. By the way, for those who don't know: St. John's is Toronto's affiliate, Milwaukee is Nashville's affiliate, and Chicago is Atlanta's.

Red
10-19-2003, 01:25 PM
That's a great report! Thanks for all the work you're willing to put into this. :)

Waveburner
10-19-2003, 01:29 PM
:bow::bow: fergo :D

incawg
10-19-2003, 01:36 PM
:bow::bow: fergo :D

I second that.

Thalia
10-20-2003, 07:00 AM
Appreciate all your hard work. :D

That was a real treat to watch the Moose on TV, even though I missed the first period.

I really wish Sportsnet Pacific of TSN or whoever else would show more games.

Actually, if most of the AHL games were available through PPV or Center Ice, I'd seriously consider getting a satellite or digital TV. Why don't they televise more AHL games?

I found watching the Moose play last night was more enjoyable than watching the 'Nucks. Okay, maybe not more but pretty close.

IceMelter
10-20-2003, 07:10 AM
They will be on TV five more times this season, atleast its something.

Puckhound
10-23-2003, 10:36 AM
Fedor's Fast Start (http://www.moosehockey.com/tracks/031023.php)

You may want to watch this brief documentary of Fedor's start to the new season from CKY TV Winnipeg.

Impossibles
10-23-2003, 11:14 AM
Fedor's Fast Start (http://www.moosehockey.com/tracks/031023.php)

You may want to watch this brief documentary of Fedor's start to the new season from CKY TV Winnipeg.

Good link!

odd hat choice for Fedor...

Jimmy Roy is one ugly *******. It looks like his 'soul patch' exploded.

Tom.H
10-23-2003, 11:00 PM
Hey guys, ever tried Moose Tracks ice cream? It tastes great!

I believe Island Farms makes it.

Reign Nateo
10-24-2003, 08:31 AM
Not a big talker that Fedorov...As long as he scores it doesn't matter.

I'm not sure if he'll ever stick as a Canuck, but it is an interesting story any way.

Burke's Evil Spirit
10-24-2003, 09:11 AM
"I have no comment on that at this time."

Who the hell do you think you are? Donald Rumsfeld? :)

Puckhound
10-24-2003, 12:40 PM
"I have no comment on that at this time."

Who the hell do you think you are? Donald Rumsfeld? :)

Last year about all FedFed said was "I need to work hard and keep my mouth shut" I'm not sure who gave him that advice but he seems to be sticking to it.

NFITO
10-24-2003, 12:42 PM
Last year about all FedFed said was "I need to work hard and keep my mouth shut" I'm not sure who gave him that advice but he seems to be sticking to it.

he said in an interview right after the Canucks drafted him that it was his brother Sergei that gave him that advice.