Before you come to the Kings fan board asking about Deader & Ally...

Face Wash
10-19-2003, 01:43 PM
We don't know!!! They don't know!!! Ally and Deader don't know!! The Doctors don't know!!! The Insurance company covering the Kings doesn't know!! NO ONE KNOWS!!! :rolleyes:

I mean Leiweke seems to have a crystal ball (he says November), but he's the one who told season ticket holders they'd be ready for opening night, so... he lies for a living, so you can't take anything that guy says seriously.

Aside from that, nobody has a clue... they're skating but with NO CONTACT and not with the team and there's no prognosis.

Please stop asking... This should be made a sticky... JF??? :p

jfont
10-19-2003, 02:29 PM
Please stop asking... This should be made a sticky... JF??? :p
i agree...but i don't have powers here...lol...

wabwat
10-19-2003, 03:44 PM
absolutely right Face Wash...






by the way... when are Ally and Deader coming back??? :yo:

LuckyLUC20
10-19-2003, 04:47 PM
Excellent Thread, Face Wash.

IGM
10-19-2003, 05:54 PM
I agree, great thread but when ARE they coming back?







;)

Captain Ron
10-19-2003, 06:13 PM
I agree, great thread but when ARE they coming back?







;)

Adam Deadmarsh.....November 12th

Jason Allison.....December 7th

There are your answers now be quiet. :rolleyes:






just kidding of course... :p

wabwat
10-19-2003, 06:19 PM
apparently someone asked Ally at meet the players today... he answered rather emphatically... 'VERY VERY soon!' somewhat eluding towards the next homestand...

also the consensus seemed to be that Deader looked kinda pale...


oh yeah... and add Matty to the week to week clan... no clear timetable on him now either!


:dunno:

OlWpgJet
10-19-2003, 06:28 PM
Thanks for the update or non update, was just thinking about asking the Allison question but I have not asked before. I trust you all will let us know when anything does change so I will just keep checking. Thanks

Unthinkable
10-19-2003, 07:50 PM
apparently someone asked Ally at meet the players today... he answered rather emphatically... 'VERY VERY soon!' somewhat eluding towards the next homestand...

also the consensus seemed to be that Deader looked kinda pale...


oh yeah... and add Matty to the week to week clan... no clear timetable on him now either!


:dunno:

Hope they are both back soon for the sake of hockey fans everywhere. BTW, I believe the phrase you were going for is alluded to instead of eluding unless I'm reading you totally wrong which is entirely possible. Elusive = evasive. Your wording suggests he was upfront and enthusiastic about a quick return.

wabwat
10-19-2003, 09:18 PM
Hope they are both back soon for the sake of hockey fans everywhere. BTW, I believe the phrase you were going for is alluded to instead of eluding unless I'm reading you totally wrong which is entirely possible. Elusive = evasive. Your wording suggests he was upfront and enthusiastic about a quick return.

no you're right... just a typo!

IGM
10-25-2003, 05:04 PM
Bump for the people who can't figure out how to use the search menu or are just too lazy to go and look around ANY of the sports pubs that have TONS of info on the subject.

To recap, Allison will never play again and his career is over and Deader was last seen riding in a long big yellow MBZ with his hockey gear on even though he is no longer on a team.

(for all of the pcer's out there, I am in no way taking a shot at the mentally ill or any of the other people who might be inflicted with any form of handicapp that might lead them to having to ride on a bus with hockey gear. It is solely a shot at the fact that this specific player has injured his head and that he is at this time not capable of driving himself and his melon is so fragile that he wears his protective gear)

GOD I HATE THE PC'ERS OF THE WORLD!

David A. Rainer
10-26-2003, 12:14 AM
Let this be a warning: any moron who just skips over this thread and starts a brand new thread asking what is up with Allison or Deadmarsh will have their thread deleted. I'm sick of seeing 5 threads on this topic at one time solely because some jackasses don't know how to use a search function.

jfont
10-26-2003, 08:38 AM
Let this be a warning: any moron who just skips over this thread and starts a brand new thread asking what is up with Allison or Deadmarsh will have their thread deleted. I'm sick of seeing 5 threads on this topic at one time solely because some jackasses don't know how to use a search function.
:handclap:

Darth Vitale
10-26-2003, 09:38 AM
Tangent: does anyone know if Deader is at least skating during some of the practices? I've heard he is in a "feeling good enough to play one day, feeling dizzy the next" kind of deal with his post-concussion problems.

I just hope he gets back soon. Kings aren't my favorite team, but he is definitely my favorite player in the league. Guy's got skills and the biggest heart in the league. And from the people I know who have met him, he's a pretty down-to-earth fellow too. Not too many like him out there anymore... would suck if he had to retire / continue dealing with this problem off the ice.

didjuicythat
10-26-2003, 09:55 AM
Totally off topic: PornoHolocaust, your PM box is full. I can't send you any PMs. ;)

Face Wash
10-26-2003, 07:42 PM
Let this be a warning: any moron who just skips over this thread and starts a brand new thread asking what is up with Allison or Deadmarsh will have their thread deleted. I'm sick of seeing 5 threads on this topic at one time solely because some jackasses don't know how to use a search function.

As usual DFA rocks!! :D

IGM
10-27-2003, 02:02 PM
this still doesn't answer the question of what is going on with Ally and Deader though. Forget it! I will just wait until Nik and Daryl talk about it on Kings talk and then listen to AM tell us what is up and then maybe DT can say so also AND THEN I WILL CALL IN AND ASK THE SAME QUESTION!

No wonder the team treats us like we are so stupid, for some of us it is all too true!

WTGDFALMAOMUA!

David A. Rainer
10-27-2003, 04:00 PM
Hey guys. When you post to those duplicate Allison/Deader threads, you're just wasting your time. I'm just going to delete the thread altogether and no one will ever see your post (except for me, thank you mod powers ;) ).

IGM
10-27-2003, 06:48 PM
Hey DFA, for todays thread that was a mercy kill. The guy, on his first post at HF posted "THE QUESTION" and uses his whole real name as his "handle". No better way of letting every Kings fan know that you are mentally challenged then to use your whole name and post threads that ask stupid questions. That guy should send you a cake this X mas.

Darth Vitale
10-29-2003, 06:10 AM
Should I take it from the lack of responses, that none of you guys watch Kings practices? Or are they closed to the public maybe, unlike some other teams in the league?

David A. Rainer
10-29-2003, 08:28 AM
Should I take it from the lack of responses, that none of you guys watch Kings practices? Or are they closed to the public maybe, unlike some other teams in the league?

Face Wash's original post remains true. They are doing lite skating, but not in contact drills and are still feeling symptoms. No one knows when and if they will ever be back to contact drills or game playing shape. Essentially, nothing has changed - skating, but not with the team.

RushingRocket
10-29-2003, 10:39 AM
Face Wash's original post remains true. They are doing lite skating, but not in contact drills and are still feeling symptoms. No one knows when and if they will ever be back to contact drills or game playing shape. Essentially, nothing has changed - skating, but not with the team.

DFA, et. al. can one of you post every five minutes, just so i know that nothing has changed. I'm sure you guys don't really care, being kings fans and all, and me merely needing to know for my fantasy team. If this is not possible, do you have Deader or Ally's private home phone # so i could check myself?! :p

David A. Rainer
10-29-2003, 12:38 PM
DFA, et. al. can one of you post every five minutes, just so i know that nothing has changed. I'm sure you guys don't really care, being kings fans and all, and me merely needing to know for my fantasy team. If this is not possible, do you have Deader or Ally's private home phone # so i could check myself?! :p

:lol:

No phone numbers, but...

1:00PM - nothing new
1:05PM - nothing new
1:10PM - he skated to his left
1:15PM - nothing new
1:20PM - he stopped for a drink of water
1:25PM - he skated to his right
1:30PM - nothing new
1:35PM - nothing new...

more updates to follow

AlexandreDaigle
10-29-2003, 02:28 PM
I, Alexandre Daigle, would like to thank Allison and Deadmarsh for making me look like a badass dude.

This is gonna be my break out year, just you watch.

vitogor
10-31-2003, 03:40 AM
Err... I kinda feel dumb now, since I just started a new thread asking about Allison... Thanks for deleting it, and not letting anybody eat me alive ;)

I don't go to other teams' forums all that often, so when I do I get lost. Here's what I learned: everybody should read the stickies and the announcements before posting! :teach:

:moon: *not sure how to use this smiley properly, but I like it, so there*

David A. Rainer
10-31-2003, 09:38 AM
Err... I kinda feel dumb now, since I just started a new thread asking about Allison... Thanks for deleting it, and not letting anybody eat me alive ;)

Don't sweat it. You're about the 15th or 16th person to have done it and there will be many more.


:moon: <---- right back at ya!

agentfouser
11-01-2003, 09:43 PM
bob miller and jim fox mentioned on the telecast that deadmarsh has been participating more intensely in practice, and has played very hard in five in a row. no contact yet, but a step forward, hopefully.

jfont
11-02-2003, 07:05 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/kings/la-sp-kingrep2nov02,1,7209297.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-kings

Jason Allison, out since January because of whiplash, has been prescribed medication to fight post-traumatic migraine symptoms that might be the cause of lingering vision problems and headaches the King center has been experiencing.

Since his injury, Allison has been to three eye specialists and three neurologists. There is still no timetable for his return.

LuckyLUC20
11-02-2003, 01:02 PM
bob miller and jim fox mentioned on the telecast that deadmarsh has been participating more intensely in practice, and has played very hard in five in a row. no contact yet, but a step forward, hopefully.
excellent news... keep it up Deader!

BIG FAN
11-04-2003, 11:08 AM
Deadmarsh has been cleared to travel with the team on the road trip. It sounds like he might be back in a couple of weeks

LuckyLUC20
11-04-2003, 11:12 AM
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~28541~1742653,00.html

Just to add to what BIG FAN posted... The article says that Deadmarsh could've traveled with the Kings on the 4 game road trip. Turns out he's not going to go, but he's been skating with the team for a week in practice... him being cleared to travel is a very good sign...

Allison update:

Allison has said that if he comes back and is healthy, he doesn't see how the Kings' won't qualify him for next year:
Allison is convinced if he can return to form this season, the money will be there. He doesn't doubt he will receive his qualifying offer.

"As long as I come back and play like I can, I can't see how they cannot qualify me," Allison said. "If they don't, I'm not going to be back, or I'll be somewhere else. That's the last thing on my mind. I just want to get back and play."

Thoughts??

agentfouser
11-04-2003, 02:39 PM
to be honest, i would not qualify him. i would keep him on the team at a salary that reflected his volatile nature. ideally would be a low base but high incentives, so that when he gets hurt again it will be less of a financial problem. if he insists on the same contract, trade him. there is no way ziggy palffy should not be the highest paid player on our team, and i would rather have him than allison. furthermore, it would be a staggering insult to palffy to try to pay him less than allison when palffy has carried this team for extended stretches. its not that i'm not a fan of allison; but the bottom line is that he gets hurt often. yeah, he plays through it pretty often, but he's also missed more than half the season two or three times in his relatively short career. he's not going to get more durable as he gets older.

Skebo
11-04-2003, 08:50 PM
After these concussions both Deadmarsh and Allison are one more hit closer to the end of their carreers. Deadmarsh has more of a concussion history, but Allison seems to be affected just as badly as Deadmarsh, if not worse. If I'm Kings management, I don't plan on building around these two guys for the future. It would be wreckless spending to invest long-term in Allison at this point.
True, he might come back to form and never have a major injury again, but like agentuser said the later seems unlikely. I think the Kings will not make a qualifying offer and spend that money elsewhere.


Right now, he's 27 and these should be the prime years of his career. Too bad that he's a complete mess, he's fun to watch out there.

jfont
11-04-2003, 09:05 PM
correct me if i'm wrong but isn't a qualifying offer supposed to be at least 10% more than your previous contract?

KingPurpleDinosaur
11-05-2003, 02:20 AM
only if ur below league average. once ur on top of it, all u gota do is qualify by accepting the current salary... or so i believe

Skebo
11-05-2003, 12:17 PM
only if ur below league average. once ur on top of it, all u gota do is qualify by accepting the current salary... or so i believe

You are correct sir!

Great site for answering all these questions:
http://www-unix.oit.umass.edu/~splaw488/NHL_CBA.htm

It helps if you have a law degree or if you are accustomed to speaking in double speak.

LuckyLUC20
11-05-2003, 12:33 PM
I guess this is the permanent place for injury updates...?? lol.

Anyway, here's an article from TSN titled "Deadmarsh close to returning"... it talks about how Deadmarsh has been getting better everyday and that he looks really good in practice... It also says that Allison isn't doing to well, but we already knew about that.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=59521

think-blue-
11-05-2003, 02:12 PM
I guess this is the permanent place for injury updates...?? lol.

Anyway, here's an article from TSN titled "Deadmarsh close to returning"... it talks about how Deadmarsh has been getting better everyday and that he looks really good in practice... It also says that Allison isn't doing to well, but we already knew about that.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=59521
Great news for the Kings

Hope to see him back soon.

Skebo
11-06-2003, 08:51 AM
tsa.ca:
The news on Jason Allison is not as promising. He is still suffering from the effects of a concussion and whiplash from last season. Allison, who has been diagnosed with post-migraine disorder, has yet to begin skating with the team.


Post-migraine disorder??? That's a new one on me. I've never heard of this at all. Are they are just making things up at this point!? :shakehead

Skebo
11-06-2003, 09:00 AM
More info on Allison and post-migraine disorder:

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/avalanche/article/0,1299,DRMN_39_2397807,00.html

LuckyLUC20
11-06-2003, 09:51 AM
tsa.ca:



Post-migraine disorder??? That's a new one on me. I've never heard of this at all. Are they are just making things up at this point!? :shakehead
They've given him medication for his symptoms... He's going to try the medication according to the Times. They're going to see whether or not it will work.

I hope it works.

IGM
11-06-2003, 02:01 PM
When I was a kid I had a head injury (explains allot huh) and after I had the worst migranes that you could imagine for a couple of years. They called them cluster headaches. Of course, this was the 60's (late) and meds have come a long way since then but I can tell you that I will never forget the absolute and completely debilitating pain that came with them. I stopped having them after a couple of years (as said) but still would get them once in awhile for the rest of my life. IF Ally is having them then I don't blame him for waiting until they stop before he does anything. They would shoot me full of Morophine and other things and it still would be pure misery. Finally when one would come on they would just give me a shot and then put me to sleep for 24 hours until it went away. Get better Allison.

Of course, if you don't do it soon I hope you enjoy your next team but do get better first.

sensens
11-10-2003, 07:29 AM
Question from a visiting Sens fan...

I've now seen three stories about Deadmarsh' possible return (TSN, Daily News, and the LATimes)... but I'm not sure how seriously to take them. As Kings fans, you've no doubt been more closely involved in the drama that has been Deadmarsh' injury woes... has he been at this stage before? Or is this really a sign that he's likely to return to the lineup soon?

Just curious what people's take on this is. I'm not entirely sure what 'able to travel with the team' means versus 'able to play'.

IGM
11-10-2003, 07:38 AM
I skate at the Kings training facility (Health South) everyday and usually get to watch the team practice (when in town) and I can tell you that, over the past three weeks, Adam has practiced a bunch more and taken place in contact drills a few times as well. He had two practiced before the team went on the roadie where he was just one of the guys and participated in every drill and really was hitting everyone and everything as hard as he could without pissing people off. (or so it looked to me) I have to think that he is as ready as he is going to be at this point and that there is a chance that he will play (along with Stymy I was told) when the team returns from its trip. I was told that he might get his first start in forever against the Leafs but look for him more on Saturday if all goes well.

So, in my opinion, he must be very close to trying to come back and play. It sure looks that way from here. My concern is that he will come back and try to do too much too soon to try and catch up with his team mates. I hope he just eases his way into the line up and starts off with maybe 10 mins a game for a week or two and doesn't try playing his usual grinding hard nosed style of hockey right away. The new "concussion proof" head gear he is wearing may help a bit but I would rather have a 75% Deader than none at all.

So, yes, i think he will be back this week or at the latest next unless he hurts himself in practice, and I don't think that will happen.

IGM
11-10-2003, 09:35 AM
I will stick with my first hand knowledge instead of a few guys a few thousand miles away. It is true though that IF he has another concussion or that this come back is hampered in some way that he could have to retire but you could say the same about more than a half a dozen other players with head troubles in the league.

Skebo
11-10-2003, 10:34 AM
The new "concussion proof" head gear he is wearing may help a bit but I would rather have a 75% Deader than none at all.

Are you talking about an actual piece of equipment or that massive mane of hair he has been sporting? :rolly:

sensens
11-10-2003, 01:00 PM
So, yes, i think he will be back this week or at the latest next unless he hurts himself in practice, and I don't think that will happen.

Interesting stuff - thanks.

There's been an awful lot of contradiction recently about Deadmarsh... but I wouldn't trust half of the monkeys on television to tie my shoes. Especially on LeafsTV...

As you suggested, I'm somewhat more inclined to trust local LA news reports, and people who've actually seen him practice, but I'm just wondering why his seemingly imminent return has been so overlooked by the more mainstream media. I mean TSN picked it up, but literally nobody else has, which seems odd. It's certainly quite a story if he is.

LuckyLUC20
11-10-2003, 01:56 PM
IGM... you rule! Thanks so much for the updates from practice.

This is very encouraging news. Deader is working so hard and I'm glad he's getting better and better everyday. I will be relieved when I see him on the ice. But for now, I'm so happy to hear about the progress he has been making. It has definitely been a long road for Deader, and I can't wait to see him back!

LuckyLUC20
11-10-2003, 09:27 PM
Are you talking about an actual piece of equipment or that massive mane of hair he has been sporting? :rolly:
hey... don't mess with the mullet! :joker:

MOOSE55
11-11-2003, 08:21 AM
I watched a program on the Leafs channel last nite , a round table discussion show with paul romanuik , steve dryden and a few other notable hockey guys and they said that Deadmarsh may be forced to retire because of his concussions .

I don't consider the "Leaf Channel" a reliable source at all....I'd trust the National Inquirer(sp), before I'd believe any kind of Leaf-run media

LuckyLUC20
11-13-2003, 12:33 AM
Bad News:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kingrep13nov13,1,3651590.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Hopefully this is just a minor setback for Deader. Things were looking so good. It seems as though he took a step back. It also talks about Allison's progress. He says the medication has helped, but he can't necessarily play while on the medication. He'd have to get off it, before he could play.

agentfouser
11-13-2003, 12:56 AM
Bad News:

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kingrep13nov13,1,3651590.story?coll=la-headlines-sports

Hopefully this is just a minor setback for Deader. Things were looking so good. It seems as though he took a step back. It also talks about Allison's progress. He says the medication has helped, but he can't necessarily play while on the medication. He'd have to get off it, before he could play.

i saw that as well, and i have some bad news.

i'm afraid that i'm to blame for the regression of deadmarsh's injury- i've been having very positive thoughts about deadmarsh playing soon, and i even told a friend about how igm has seen him skating harder and looking better. so, apparently, my positive waves and big mouth have jinxed us. my deepest apologies.

flame away.

MOOSE55
11-13-2003, 07:02 AM
MORE ****** NEWS.....http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?id=60361

Old Hickory
11-13-2003, 07:43 AM
It's looks like the tables have turned and Ally is ahead of Deadmarsh.

MOOSE55
11-13-2003, 08:04 AM
looks like we won't be seein either one of them till after x-mas

LuckyLUC20
11-13-2003, 08:53 AM
this is terrible :(

HughJass*
11-13-2003, 10:22 AM
Point blank, concussions aren't an exact science, so don't rely on anyone. If concussion symptoms last longer than two weeks, then something is wrong. If a player has a concussion that keeps him out for half a season, don't believe you will get the same player back. LaFontaine and Lindros were never the same, so it may be safe to for some analysts to think/say Allison & Deadmarsh careers are over. Sad.

LuckyLUC20
11-13-2003, 11:37 AM
i saw that as well, and i have some bad news.

i'm afraid that i'm to blame for the regression of deadmarsh's injury- i've been having very positive thoughts about deadmarsh playing soon, and i even told a friend about how igm has seen him skating harder and looking better. so, apparently, my positive waves and big mouth have jinxed us. my deepest apologies.

flame away.
heh, I don't think you're the only one. A lot of us have been guilty of that... including myself. I feel so bad!!

jfont
11-14-2003, 06:39 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/kings/la-sp-kingrep14nov14,1,1843366.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-kings

more bad news...deader didn't work out for the 2nd consecutive day...wasn't feeling well.

StianM
11-14-2003, 07:22 AM
:( :( :( :(

<------- Will we EVER see this again?

LuckyLUC20
11-14-2003, 08:33 AM
This sucks, man.

I hope Deader feels better soon. Deader, we love you!

LuckyLUC20
11-15-2003, 09:34 AM
Deader missed the 3rd practice in a row. He still feels dizzy.

Deadmarsh (concussion) missed his third consecutive practice with dizziness. He practiced six days in a row with the Kings before they left on their last trip. "He was making progress,' Murray said. "This is a setback.'

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~21834~1768021,00.html

sopuli
11-18-2003, 03:29 AM
All the news here seem to be focusing on Deadmarsh, but is there any sign of Allison getting better? His comeback last year was awesome, and I'm hoping to see something similar this season.

punchy1
11-18-2003, 08:26 AM
I read on espn that Allison is due back in December or something like that. It is on our teams information page.

BIG FAN
11-18-2003, 08:39 AM
I read on espn that Allison is due back in December or something like that. It is on our teams information page.

Don't expect to see either Allison or Deadmarsh play for the Kings this year. It's looking more likely their conditions can't improve enough for them to get back on the ice during a competitive game. Not what I want - but let's face reality.

punchy1
11-18-2003, 11:01 AM
I share your pessimism but, when asked if we had heard anything the article on espn did say that he is responding very well to his new medication and that if (there is the devil) he continues down this path he will be back faster than any of us expected.

I may not think the world of espn but I would call them as legitimate of a source as any.

LuckyLUC20
11-18-2003, 11:41 AM
I really hope the medication will work wonders for him. I know we were all optimistic about Deader's progress and then he has this set back. So, for now, I will not be excited about if the medication is working until I see Allison on the ice playing his game.

I don't want to jinx anything. :(

Skebo
11-18-2003, 11:51 AM
I'm sure if I drop Deader from my fantasy hockey team today, he will come back within the week. :cry:

BIG FAN
11-18-2003, 12:36 PM
I'm sure if I drop Deader from my fantasy hockey team today, he will come back within the week. :cry:

I think the best thing for Deadmarsh is just take the year off (same as Lindros). Since Lindros has started playing for New York he's had no concussion related injuries in 2+ years. I think that when Eric had the entire season off in Philly it helped him improve medically.

Also, many in this thread talk about a the "concussion proof" helmet. Obviously, it's not fool-proof but it has seemed to work - most notably with Alyn McAuley. It was estimated that he had approx. 9 concussions in Junior while playing with the Ottawa 67's. He also had a couple with Jersey and Toronto. When in T.O. he switched to this new helmet and nothing has happened to him in over 2 years, so it does help.

agentfouser
11-19-2003, 12:22 AM
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/la-sp-kingrep19nov19,1,6135393.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl

sweet!! :yo:

i have to admit, i'd completely given up on him and was ready to ship him to the pueget sound scallywags for a stickbag and some pucks. not that he's better by any means, but that's the first good allison news in a LONG time.

LuckyLUC20
11-19-2003, 08:26 AM
That is great news! However, I'm not going to do what I did with Deadmarsh. I will believe it when I see him on the ice playing his game. I don't want to jinx anything!!!!

But seriously, this is awesome. I'm glad the medication is helping him. It says he hasn't been himself for the past 8 or 9 months! Wow, I feel terrible that he hasn't felt like himself. There's also another story in the Daily News that I will find and post here. It says that he's optimistic about returning. He'll need about a month of practice before he plays a game.

LuckyLUC20
11-19-2003, 08:28 AM
http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~21834~1775370,00.html

:)
It's been depression, insomnia, memory problems ... you're just 'off.' You're really irritable. You feel like a different person. That's why I'm most optimistic and I know this is working, because the symptoms aren't as bad, and I feel more like myself.

"I'm hoping that in the next few weeks, I can feel close to back to normal and we can move on with this thing."

More important than Allison's mood is the fact that over the past week, he has been able to push himself in practice without feeling the symptoms as intensely. Allison said once the symptoms disappear, he will need up to a month of practice before he can play.

The hope is that over the next few weeks, the medication will completely balance Allison's serotonin level. That could be tricky, because the medication causes fatigue, and doctors need to find the right balance as Allison attempts to get in game shape.

messy_eh
11-19-2003, 12:42 PM
That is great news! However, I'm not going to do what I did with Deadmarsh. I will believe it when I see him on the ice playing his game. I don't want to jinx anything!!!!




Just as a further note "The Score" up here in canada (it's an all sports channel which focuses mainly on hockey Cnn meets Espn) just said somthing about the Kings and Allision will know more in 2 weeks. Not sure where they got there info but thought i would pass it on

Old Hickory
11-19-2003, 12:56 PM
Just as a further note "The Score" up here in canada (it's an all sports channel which focuses mainly on hockey Cnn meets Espn) just said somthing about the Kings and Allision will know more in 2 weeks. Not sure where they got there info but thought i would pass it on
thank you. It's shame that we didn't hear it here in LA

LuckyLUC20
11-19-2003, 01:00 PM
Thanks Canuck Highlander.. we appreciate the info.

Times like these, I wish I lived in Canada. :joker:

LuckyLUC20
11-23-2003, 12:20 AM
Update on Deader and it's not good:

:(
http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/kings/la-sp-kingrep23nov23,1,1974438.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-kings

Fielddog
11-24-2003, 05:41 PM
When I saw Allison at Health South last week he looked pretty good skating to me. I am going tomorrow (Tuesday) morning to watch the pre-game skate and I will give you all a report if he skates....

LuckyLUC20
11-24-2003, 05:53 PM
Thanks, Fielddog!

Keep it up, Ally!

Skebo
11-24-2003, 09:39 PM
When I saw Allison at Health South last week he looked pretty good skating to me. I am going tomorrow (Tuesday) morning to watch the pre-game skate and I will give you all a report if he skates....

Is there someway you could keep Stumpy off the ice at the same time?

LuckyLUC20
11-27-2003, 12:46 PM
Update on Allison:

http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=68831&section=SPORTS&subsection=PRO&year=2003&month=11&day=27
Kings center Jason Allison had to back off the intensity of his workouts recently after having "a couple bad days" when the symptoms from his whiplash injury increased.

"I started feeling so good that I tried to go 100 percent and pushed it too much," said Allison, whose symptoms primarily involve vision problems.

"If I'd gone 80 or 90 percent, I'd probably feel fine."

Despite the latest setback, Allison, who hasn't played since January, remains confident in the recent diagnosis of post-traumatic migraine syndrome (not post-concussion) and medication prescribed. He hopes to join in full-team practices by the end of next week and remains optimistic he will play soon.

But that could mean anything "from three weeks to two months," he conceded.

"I guess you shouldn't figure on things going perfect, and I should know better than that after all this time. They haven't gone perfect yet," he said.

"On the flip side, I have to look at it compared to where I was three or four weeks ago before I started taking this medication. (There is a) big-time difference. I'm feeling much more myself."

Face Wash
11-28-2003, 09:18 AM
Update on Allison:

http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=68831&section=SPORTS&subsection=PRO&year=2003&month=11&day=27

I still think he's taking Prozac or similar medication.

And by the way, my Kings' source tells me that while management isn't saying anything about Deadmarsh for sure, the rumblings in the hallways at HS are that he's done... at least for the year and maybe "as a King", but that's not an official word, more of an impression he gets from being around the players.

In fact, he told me it's ironic, but the best thing Deader can hope for if he's unable to suit up this year, would be a prolonged lockout. He just needs more time.

Maybe they should prescribe some Prozac for Kings fans... I'm starting to get a little depressed myself.

LuckyLUC20
11-28-2003, 10:47 PM
Yea, this is a very depressing situation. I love Deader, but if it's the best thing for him to not come back this year, then so be it. His health is first and foremost, he's got twin daughters and a lovely wife... he needs to take care of them first before playing hockey. It'll be tough, but I'm starting to accept the fact we may never see him again.

RushingRocket
11-30-2003, 02:42 PM
Yea, this is a very depressing situation. I love Deader, but if it's the best thing for him to not come back this year, then so be it. His health is first and foremost, he's got twin daughters and a lovely wife... he needs to take care of them first before playing hockey. It'll be tough, but I'm starting to accept the fact we may never see him again.

Man, I feel so bad. And to think, I came here (Kings boards) because I drafted Allison in my fantasy draft. I dropped him a few weeks ago but keep coming back anyway. You guys are all really knowledgable, and really care about your players. And I gotta say, this is a nice break from the insanity and constant arguments between posters over on the Rangers boards...we hate nearly everybody on our team ;) .

Oh well...I'm pulling for Ally

LuckyLUC20
12-02-2003, 07:23 PM
Man, I feel so bad. And to think, I came here (Kings boards) because I drafted Allison in my fantasy draft. I dropped him a few weeks ago but keep coming back anyway. You guys are all really knowledgable, and really care about your players. And I gotta say, this is a nice break from the insanity and constant arguments between posters over on the Rangers boards...we hate nearly everybody on our team ;) .

Oh well...I'm pulling for Ally
Thanks for the compliment. :)

messy_eh
12-06-2003, 10:38 PM
Any thing new on ally, Up here in Canada a couple weeks ago i heard on a local tv station they would know more in a couple weeeks, it has been that now was wondering if there was anything new to report, I know some of you go to the morning skates, Just wondering if there wan any new progress, Thanks

LuckyLUC20
12-06-2003, 10:47 PM
Any thing new on ally, Up here in Canada a couple weeks ago i heard on a local tv station they would know more in a couple weeeks, it has been that now was wondering if there was anything new to report, I know some of you go to the morning skates, Just wondering if there wan any new progress, Thanks
He started skating again... he took 3 days off after a minor setback. He just needed a couple days off. The people that went to the practices says that he is still a bit slow (but that's Jason's style anyway... pretty slow skater)...however, he's looking better than he was a couple weeks ago, that's for sure.

There's some footage of him skating in this website from a King fan that went to the practice yesterday: http://www.moonstruct.com/kingspractice.html

There are also pictures of the Kings practicing and leaving the training center... the videos of Allison are at the bottom of the page. Enjoy!

LuckyLUC20
12-06-2003, 11:54 PM
Here's an update on Allison from the Daily News:

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~1814779,00.html

It's still a waiting game for Kings center Jason Allison, whose mornings are filled with optimism and frustration as he attempts to get his head and vision clear enough to return to the ice.

Allison, who hasn't played since January, continues to suffer from post-migraine symptoms, which flare up during periods of strenuous activity. However, he joined the Kings' morning skate Saturday -- participating in non-contact drills -- with the hope he will return before the end of the season.

"From what the doctors tell me, it's a matter of days or weeks, not weeks or months," Allison said. "It's encouraging, because I'm feeling better, but it's tough because I want to get back out there."

Medication has helped ease the worst of Allison's symptoms, but he continues to experience vision problems and generally "feels off" when he pushes himself in practices.

Until the symptoms disappear entirely, Allison is unable to practice at full strength and get ready for game action. There is no timetable; it's all a matter of when Allison's head clears.

"It could be three or four days or it could be two weeks," Allison said. "The hard part is not being able to be 100 percent at practice, because that's the only way I'm going to come back. But it really changes from day to day. Sometimes I come off the ice and think I could be back in a couple (of) weeks."

Another encouraging aspect for Allison is that doctors have told him he is at no increased risk of injury when he returns, because his problem is chemical, and not a concussion.

Allison recently took two days off from practice, not because of the symptoms but because of the flu, which seems to be going around the Kings' locker room.

It looks like he's getting better and better. It changed from weeks or months... to days or weeks.

messy_eh
12-07-2003, 09:22 AM
Here's an update on Allison from the Daily News:

It looks like he's getting better and better. It changed from weeks or months... to days or weeks.


Good news thanks alot

Frolov
12-07-2003, 12:52 PM
Allison can start contact drills if he wanted to. There is no risk of injury. The only set back is fatique at this point.

jfont
12-08-2003, 09:54 PM
thanks for the updates luckyluc20...any news on deader?

LuckyLUC20
12-08-2003, 10:58 PM
thanks for the updates luckyluc20...any news on deader?
I can't find a single thing about Deader. I don't even think he's skating right now since that collision with Stumpel. I read that after he collided with Stump, he left the ice and is going to take some time off until he feels like he can skate again.

Obviously a major setback... :( Get well soon, Deader...

LuckyLUC20
12-09-2003, 11:47 AM
Just wanted to point out that the reason Allison took a couple days off from skating was due to the flu and not the symptoms of the post migraine disorder... I know I quoted it in a previous post above, but just in case some of you missed it or skipped over it... that's why he missed a couple days.

Looks like the flu has been going around the Kings' locker room. ReggiMoto said that John Tripp got it in Manchester (a bunch of Monarchs got sick and I guess passed it on to Tripp) and flew to LA with it and then Lubo got sick, Luc got sick, Chartrand got sick, now Ally got sick. I think they're all okay now, obviously... but I thought that was kind of funny. It's like a plague.

LuckyLUC20
12-09-2003, 08:15 PM
Update on Deader:

A fan over at LGK posted this... this was in a recent THN (The Hockey News) article:

Adam Deadmarsh says he's very much looking forward to Christmas and the new year. It's this anniversary thing he's not so crazy about.

On Dec. 15, Deadmarsh will have gone one year since his last NHL game, a 2-1 loss in Pheonix during which he scored a goal and got his bell rung. Since then, every day has been pretty much Feb. 2 for him - Groundhog Day, characterized by post-concussion syndrome.And there's no guarantee he'll ever be healthy enough to play again. "It has been a frustrating and scary time for me," Deader (sic) says.

The 28-year-old Kings winger had a burst out of the gate in 2002-03- his ninth nhl season - when he suffered his first head injury in Toronto, on Nov. 12. He got spun around by an opponent and his head struck the flexible glass. He returned a month later and played well in four more games before incurring a setback. During a play in which he was falling to the ice, his head collided with teammate Craig Johnsons knee and... "...now here I am," Deadmarsh says. "It's been a long year for sure. Yeah, I'm angry and frustrated, but what am I going to do about it? It's not an injury you can play through."

His first three months off were, as a comedy network says, time well wasted. "I didnt do much," says Deadmarsh, who scored 13 goals in his abbreviated 20-game season. "I basically sat around the house and played with my kids (twin daughters Alexis and Madison). I didn't venture out of the house too much when I did, I felt the symptoms come on pretty strongly. As long as I stayed in my house, I felt pretty good."

The demons came in the form of light-headedness, a sensation Deadmarsh likens to the feeling you'd get from over-exerting yourself when blowing up balloons. Only, his dizzyness would quickly dissipate. He also experienced occasional headaches and distorted vision, where objects weren't crisp.He started feeling better in the spring and begun working out once the season concluded. He trained hard in the summer and was optimistic about returning this calander year when, in practice, he was accidentally clipped by teammate Josef Stumple.

Now, although still hopefull of a return, Deadmarsh is back playing the waiting game, wondering whether he'll ever be able to resume his career. Retirement has crossed his mind. "Whenever you've been out this long you question whether you're ever going to heal up fully again," Deadmarsh says. "I plan on healing and playing again, but if I can never get over this feeling that I have, obviously I can't play with it. Time's going to tell. I'm feeling better, but it's getting over that last hump and feeling like I usually do that has been hard for me. Hopefully, I get to that point."

That last paragraph is so depressing... Feel better, Deader!

LuckyLUC20
12-10-2003, 07:51 AM
here is the link to that THN Article on Deadmarsh:

http://www.thn.com/en/headlines/detail.asp?id=18849&cat=954869803932

LuckyLUC20
12-14-2003, 10:37 AM
Another update on Deadmarsh:

(got me really sad :( )

"Kings face possibility of dead end"

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~28541~1829808,00.html

Habs33
12-15-2003, 06:55 PM
Just watched the '96 cup finals when a very young Deader hoisted the cup and was soaked in champagne....

Get well soon Deader, we Love you!!

LuckyLUC20
12-28-2003, 03:39 PM
Jason Allison, who had been practicing at HealthSouth while recovering from post-traumatic stress-related migraines, didn't skate Saturday because he didn't feel good, Coach Andy Murray said. However, trainer Pete Demers said it's not a setback. "You look at it as how are you this week compared to last week," Demers said. "You don't look at it day to day." Allison was to see Dr. Michael Mellman on Saturday but did not feel good enough to attend the game. .

per LA Times... Hopefully minor.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/kings/la-sp-kingrep28dec28,1,2634370.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-kings

Habs33
12-29-2003, 01:51 PM
Jason Allison cancelled scheduled workouts over the weekend after suffering post-traumatic migraine syndrome symptoms.
Just when it looked like Allison was inching his way back to a return, he suffers another setback. When he will be back is anyone's guess at this point, but it does not look like it will be anytime in January at the very least. The frustration for Allison owners and the Kings continues.

Habs33
12-31-2003, 06:45 AM
This is the best way for him to say, he'll sit for the year.
I'd rather see him take the whole year off and curing himself once and for all.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=66251&hubName=nhl

jfont
01-07-2004, 06:15 AM
Latest news has it that basically... Allison doesn't want to play for this team under Murray. Enjoy!
you got a link or is it just pure speculation on your part?

jfont
01-12-2004, 09:22 PM
PURE speculation, jfont.

Do you have a link that proves otherwise?
LOL!

this isn't about me guy...you're the one that made a claim...

Disco Volante
01-20-2004, 04:37 AM
Excuse me for asking guys, but what's the news on Straka? gone for the year too?

Grady41
01-20-2004, 05:36 AM
Excuse me for asking guys, but what's the news on Straka? gone for the year too?

He said he might need surgery Kings management wants to double check which I think was supposed to happen Monday so sometimes today we might know more.

Grady41
01-22-2004, 01:36 AM
Excuse me for asking guys, but what's the news on Straka? gone for the year too?


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/news_story.asp?ID=68992&hubName=nhl-kings

LuckyLUC20
01-24-2004, 06:57 PM
Bad News, but not surprising news on Allison and Deadmarsh, also updates on Straka and Miller:

sign-in: letsgokings
password: letsgokings (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/kings/la-sp-kingduckrep24jan24,1,5008680.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl-kings)

"I think the feeling is that it's very doubtful we'll see Deadmarsh and Allison play this year," Murray said. "I can't say much more about it than that. They're not skating and we're almost into the month of February."

Allison and Deadmarsh aren't the only key Kings sidelined. Forward Martin Straka had surgery Thursday to remove cartilage from both knees and defenseman Aaron Miller has been out since Dec. 10 because of a pinched nerve in his neck.

"Marty Straka, if he does return, will probably be the end of March, early April," Murray said. "And Aaron Miller is still doubtful at this particular time. It looks like it's taking longer than what we thought."

Maynard
02-03-2004, 04:03 PM
Before you come to the Kings fan board asking about Deader & Ally...

There's another Kings fan board?

no name
02-13-2004, 10:54 PM
No this is the only worthy one.
Sam is a loser and gets banned from every board. I imagine he's been banned here too once. How do you spell moron? S A M

agentfouser
02-14-2004, 04:11 AM
I sense a stalker. What, those cows in the 909 aren't keeping you company?
there is no room on this board for this kind of nonsense. this makes what, three different threads in which the two of you have starting taking shots at each other? enough. grow up. if you want to talk trash, do it privately.

again, i cannot stress how much that kind of mindless garbage is unwelcome here. this is a board for intelligent, informed, and civil hockey fans, and it will most certainly stay that way.

no name
02-14-2004, 05:00 PM
Apparently my point is mute since I just found out I am currently in the middle of a week ban from LGK. I stand corrected.

LuckyLUC20
02-18-2004, 09:47 AM
According to the Daily News, Jason Allison and Adam Deadmarsh still come to HealthSouth Training Center every morning, but are still experiencing PCS. Daily News - small section at very bottom (http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~1962457,00.html)

nothing new, but I didn't know they still came to training every morning. I thought they were no where near HealthSouth due to their setbacks.

Also, someone (from LGK) was watching the Sens/Caps game last night and said that during the second intermission, the commentators were talking about Deader. The guy said that Deader really wants to come back in a Kings uniform and help this team out any way he can. He also said Deader wanted to break his career high 33-goals in a season record.

I miss Deader! :cry:

Old Hickory
02-18-2004, 10:57 AM
Apparently my point is mute since I just found out I am currently in the middle of a week ban from LGK. I stand corrected.
What did you do this time?

no name
02-18-2004, 11:32 PM
What did you do this time?
It was either the "dont buy pizza from the yellow man" thread or one of my brilliant karma notes bit me in the ass.

GKJ
02-19-2004, 12:54 AM
According to the Daily News, Jason Allison and Adam Deadmarsh still come to HealthSouth Training Center every morning, but are still experiencing PCS. Daily News - small section at very bottom (http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~1962457,00.html)

nothing new, but I didn't know they still came to training every morning. I thought they were no where near HealthSouth due to their setbacks.

Also, someone (from LGK) was watching the Sens/Caps game last night and said that during the second intermission, the commentators were talking about Deader. The guy said that Deader really wants to come back in a Kings uniform and help this team out any way he can. He also said Deader wanted to break his career high 33-goals in a season record.

I miss Deader! :cry:

It will be an interesting offseason if Allison and Deadmarsh start feeling better. If there is ANY improvements, im sure everyone will be counting the day until they get back on the ice. If they start getting healthy, and as much as it would suck as fans, a lockout might actually benefit the Kings so they can get as many hands on deck as possible, not that we want a lockout though :(

Kingz4life
02-21-2004, 03:23 AM
It will be an interesting offseason if Allison and Deadmarsh start feeling better. If there is ANY improvements, im sure everyone will be counting the day until they get back on the ice. If they start getting healthy, and as much as it would suck as fans, a lockout might actually benefit the Kings so they can get as many hands on deck as possible, not that we want a lockout though :(I don't think the Kings will pick up the option on Allison after the seaon unless he is 100% healthy. I think if Deader plays another game he will be in A KINGS uniform. We have to stop counting the days of there return-(it doesnt work). Maybe a miracle will happen and atleast one of them will be back by the end of the season or playoff time.-U never know.

two out of three*
02-23-2004, 01:06 AM
I don't think the Kings will pick up the option on Allison after the seaon unless he is 100% healthy. I think if Deader plays another game he will be in A KINGS uniform. We have to stop counting the days of there return-(it doesnt work). Maybe a miracle will happen and atleast one of them will be back by the end of the season or playoff time.-U never know.

Impossible. The Kings have stopped using injuries as an excuse. I wouldn't count on seing either of them, back nor do I want either of them back. (Allison that is. I want to see Deadmarsh back) Because quite frankly, if the doctors said he was ready to go physically, and he's just saying "I dont feel right," then thats not the hockey player that the Kings want right now. The team L.A. has is hard-working players, who wont quit. Allison.. QUIT, as far as Im concerned. I dont really believe he's injured. Every day its a new thing. Quit being such a p*ssy. As for Deadmarsh, you know he wants to be on the ice it doesn't matter who he's playing for.

agentfouser
02-23-2004, 01:34 AM
I don't think the Kings will pick up the option on Allison after the seaon unless he is 100% healthy. I think if Deader plays another game he will be in A KINGS uniform. We have to stop counting the days of there return-(it doesnt work). Maybe a miracle will happen and atleast one of them will be back by the end of the season or playoff time.-U never know.

i think that kings management is going to take a long, hard look at every player they consider signing to see if that player has a history of injuries. i would be shocked if they had anything to do with players who make that kind of money and average 60 or fewer games per season. even if it means not going for the best player available, the kings must include durability as a determining aspect in player selection.

Fat Elvis
02-23-2004, 10:42 AM
i think that kings management is going to take a long, hard look at every player they consider signing to see if that player has a history of injuries. i would be shocked if they had anything to do with players who make that kind of money and average 60 or fewer games per season. even if it means not going for the best player available, the kings must include durability as a determining aspect in player selection.
I guess they didn't use this approach with Miller.

agentfouser
02-23-2004, 03:46 PM
I guess they didn't use this approach with Miller.
i think that miler's experience, as well as allison's and deadmarsh's, all from this season, is what will propel them toward a more drastic policy regarding players and injuries. the organization got burned last season by injuries, and that happens to every team occasionally. however, to have it happen two years in a row, and with greater intensity in the second year, must be indicative of an organizational weakness. if this organization wants to be something other than a team that manages to "hang in there desptie injuries," and realistically compete for a stanley cup, this weakness must be addressed.

now, certain other players, like palffy and visnovsky, (and belanger too, although he's stayed healthy this year) are injury-prone as well, but i think that in their cases, thier value to the team is great enough that it outwieghs their frailty. besides, with a healthier overall defense corps, visnovsky wouldn't have to play nearly 30 minutes a night. i think he'd play all season if his ice time could be cut to 20 minutes a night. the same with palffy. with a healthier forward corps around him, and especially playing with physical forwards like barney or stumpel, the defense would key on him slightly less and he wouldn't take so much abuse.

so i guess what it comes down to is that a team can only have so many injury-prone players. our team has too many.

punchy1
02-24-2004, 01:00 PM
Speaking Miller. What happened? I thought he were skating with the team and slowly working his way back into the line up. Is he coming back soon? What about Vis. Last I read he were not going with us on the roadie but we have been back now for three games and no word.

I still feel that it would be pro sports and nice to have the tele crew (radio as well) to give an injury update at the start of every broadcast. Miller and Vis would be truly impact players for us right now.

agentfouser
02-24-2004, 03:32 PM
Speaking Miller. What happened? I thought he were skating with the team and slowly working his way back into the line up. Is he coming back soon? What about Vis. Last I read he were not going with us on the roadie but we have been back now for three games and no word.

I still feel that it would be pro sports and nice to have the tele crew (radio as well) to give an injury update at the start of every broadcast. Miller and Vis would be truly impact players for us right now.
there was a blurb in the la times a few days ago that said something like "neither are skating and there is no timetable for their return."

not good news.

agentfouser
02-24-2004, 03:34 PM
there was a blurb in the la times a few days ago that said something like "neither are skating and there is no timetable for their return."

not good news.
la times yesterday (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/la-sp-kingrep23feb23,1,2797610.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl)

LuckyLUC20
02-24-2004, 03:36 PM
la times yesterday (http://www.latimes.com/sports/hockey/nhl/la-sp-kingrep23feb23,1,2797610.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nhl)
:cry:

Habs33
03-02-2004, 04:06 PM
Any news on allison or deaders condition? Can they return next year? or will they be forced to retire...

Old Hickory
03-02-2004, 04:24 PM
Any news on allison or deaders condition? Can they return next year? or will they be forced to retire...
Not much news recently about either. Neither are skating with the team. Allison has been seeing specialist after specialist
This is just a guess, but I think Deadmarsh is done. There have been some accusations that Allison is "faking it". I think Allison will be back next year, with what team is the question

Juni0r24
03-02-2004, 07:44 PM
Although I would love to see Adam back I truthfully believe that it would be wise to retire. You have to think he does have two little girls that wont be little 4ever and with his head as bad as it is now i dont think that it would be worth the risk of an even more hard injury. But hey im not say i dont want to see him play...hes great. :)

LuckyLUC20
03-04-2004, 04:28 AM
Very interesting tidbit in the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kingrep4mar04,1,7469998.story?coll=la-headlines-sports) this morning concerning Allison and Deadmarsh. Andy Murray commented on the situation:

Murray provided an update on forwards Jason Allison (whiplash) and Adam Deadmarsh (concussion), who have not played in more than 13 months: "If they were to come and tell us, 'We feel real good, we could be ready in two to three weeks,' we could get them ready. The door's never closed, but they're the ones that have to open it."

Not sure how that's an update, but it concerns the possibility of them returning.

GKJ
03-04-2004, 09:04 AM
i asked this on another thread, would AM be thinking they don't want to play?

LuckyLUC20
03-04-2004, 11:08 AM
i asked this on another thread, would AM be thinking they don't want to play?
I don't know ... but I'm starting to get that feeling. (not about Deadmarsh, though ... I know he'd do anything to play)

rticinelli
03-04-2004, 08:35 PM
So, is it the general concensus on this board that Allison is not actually injured anymore? If so, what has brought you to this conclussion?

If this is not the case then what do you see in Allison's playing future? Do you think his career is in jeopardy, or do you think there's a very good chance he'll return by next season at the latest? Do you think he will return as the point per game player he was before his injury?

LuckyLUC20
03-04-2004, 08:59 PM
I don't think he's faking his injury as some people do ... I think he really is injured, head injuries are so very delicate. It could change from time to time. So, I have no reason to believe that he'd fake his injury. After his knee-on-knee collision last November, he came back early. That shows me he wants to play.

I think people are just turned off by his attitude and the way he handled this situation. He talks about his contract while he's injured saying he expects to be qualified, etc. People start thinking it's all about the money to him.

I don't know what the whole story is, nobody does. It's just a weird situation and I hope that he does return to the ice. There's no question that he was an elite center in the NHL when healthy. I'd love for him to resume his career because he's still pretty young and is very talented. I think he still has it in him to return to form, but like kingsjohn said above, to which team is the question. I don't think we'll see him in a Kings uniform again.

Kingz4life
03-04-2004, 09:34 PM
the guy returned early from the knee injury.

kingschix
03-06-2004, 04:02 PM
Not sure if anybody has posted this or not so I'll risk BBS ridicule. At the last KROQ Tailgate Party - Deadmarsh was one of the four scratched/IR players to come and visit the "party". My husband asked him how it was looking for next season and Adam's answer had no inspiration or hope for the fans or for himself. Sad.

two out of three*
03-06-2004, 04:10 PM
I still dont think it is an injury. How can you be gone a full year having "whiplash." (Allison) As for Deadmarsh a concussion is a different story, and he'll do anything to get on the ice. I just think Allison is a bit of a p*ssy as far as Im concerned.

Kingz4life
03-06-2004, 06:35 PM
I still dont think it is an injury. How can you be gone a full year having "whiplash." (Allison) As for Deadmarsh a concussion is a different story, and he'll do anything to get on the ice. I just think Allison is a bit of a p*ssy as far as Im concerned.I wouldn't call him a p*ssy, because you never know he might really be unable to play.

rticinelli
03-15-2004, 10:29 PM
It seems to be looking grim for Deader then, unfortunately . . .

So, do you think Allison plays next year?

David A. Rainer
03-16-2004, 03:31 PM
This thread has served it's purpose well. I think it's time to unsticky it. Thank you and god speed little thread.