HOH -- The question is.....

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

No, just like everything else in life it could be better...

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

I only wish Dan Shaugnessy, the CHB, could have logged onto SoSH in 2004 and asked the same question of the Boston Red Sox.

Win a couple cups and the lamenting will become more of a boasting post for a few cockatoos..

I would much rather digress the values of who would benifit from the limited 4th line wing spot than "Who is our Number 1 Center".

We are so far from legit it hurts!

go look at a discussion about the Sens
They debate using Mezzaros - where we have to debate how to get rid of Zhamnov.

Talk about 2 different monsters.

I for one would be ecstatic if these guys were at least competetive. Earlier in the season we lost a bunch of games either by a goal or in OT. It was frustrating but it was not as disheartning as watching a team that fails to show up.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub Could we be happy with a teams success? Hmmm, I was kind of stoked after the Pats won all three SBs. I was equally, if not more stoked when the Sox finally won one not only for myself, but countless friends and family who waited and waited for that day to come.

To be honest, I'm a little hazy on 1972 as a seven year old at the time. I'm willing to bet that I personally would be rather pleased if the Bruins ever win another one.

I have to admit, however, that there's something almost....."fun"? about waiting for the other shoe to drop in the form of a trade or firing.

I've been a fan since '92, and there've been alot of "I'll never watch this team again" moments, yet somehow we all keep coming back. I know I'm a much happier person to be around when the B's are winning, and I've been a grumpy b*st*rd recently, just ask my wife.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub


Truly happy ?

what's that.

I will say over the years here when times were better. Even though a smaller crowd, all the regulars would still be here.

The discussion shifts more to how to enhance the line-up. Looking at Taz.

How to look at life and the Broons together over Sunday morning coffee. looking at DKH.

What the kids look like . - Looking at Kristy, Kirk, Shane, 'nugs and others.

Reminiscing about "old days" ...looking at myself, Black Eye, Meister, and others.

laying the smackdown on trolls..looking at DC and Gary...

So, while there is alot of well deserved angst here, I think if we won, the focus would just shift.

But , that's me.

I will say since I'm an old SOB, being at a Cup parade though is pretty sweet.
:D

We would go back to complainin about Rene Rancourt, poor NESN or OLN coverage, missed checks by so and so, man the Garden is such a boring building, Whats with there music anyways, Why are Jerseys sooo expensive, and why cant we win a plyoff series ;)

We would go back to complainin about Rene Rancourt, poor NESN or OLN coverage, missed checks by so and so, man the Garden is such a boring building, Whats with there music anyways, Why are Jerseys sooo expensive, and why cant we win a plyoff series ;)

Don't forget those God awful third jerseys! :biglaugh:

As far as the B's go, I like many of the younger players and really feel we're not that far off...there's a definite and glaring lack of "panache' with this team though...they are misfiring, not co-ordinated with each other at all. The 1 goal losses are becoming blowouts and there seems to be a dark cloud on Causeway Street. I am not privy to the Garden inner sanctum but I can't imagine it is a very happy dressing room nowadays....

What bothers me more is the new NPL "no hitting" mode and the absolutely tight and seemingly subjective penalty calling. The Boynton, and especially the Fitzgerald calls in the 2nd period were just as absurd as the Thornton call.

Sorry, when the game is flowing I can deal, (somewhat), with the lack of hitting....however, when it's a contest to see who has the better special teams I am bored to tears.

I was never more thrilled to be a Bruins fan than in the late 80's and early 90's. And realistically, they never even won the whole thing. It was just the fact that they were so respected and competitive. It was almost good enough because there was so much hope the Cup seemed like it was around the corner that whole time.
Lately there's next to no hope save for Bergeron and Hannu and that's the killer.

You know what would truly make me happy with this team? A team unifying event. An example would be for an opponent to take a real liberty with one of our guys and the rest of the team rallying around him and going down fighting. I'd love to see a game with 5-6 fights, highly emotional type. A nice 6-5 victory with a couple donneybrooks.

I question the togetherness of this team. There are too many "Aw shucks" guys on it, and it seems friggin contagious. Even Wayne Priemau seems anesthetized by being a "Bruin".

Everyone on this team seems to be waiting for the other guy to do something great (other then Bergeron). Seems like they are afraid to "be the man".

I honestly don't know, it's been awhile since the Bruins were considered a real threat to go deep into the playoffs and actually have more than an outside shot at a trip to the Finals....chances are, being a New Englander, I'd find something to ***** about. It's in the genes :D

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub
if the Bruins were good I'd have nothing to complain about so I'd probably leave and follow the Black Hawks

I'd be happy if these things were occuring:
1. If we played a full good 60 minutes consistantly
2. If the majority of our guys showed heart and urgency
3. If the coach actually grew a pair and used them by calling out guys or benching them.
4. If our GM actually had a plan B and implemented it.
5. If the players, coach and management actually showed great fluidity, adapted on the fly, implemented effective changes and had respect for one another, which I must say isn't happening or viewed by the fans.

I want to win, we all want our Bruins to win and compete....but it seems we have been all socialized into expecting/accepting marginalism here.:(
Randy

if the Bruins were good I'd have nothing to complain about so I'd probably leave and follow the Black Hawks



:biglaugh:


LMAO !!!!

Boston fans don't know how to love a team without an element of angst. (well unless we're talking about football.) Get serious.

Just think of the 87-88 win over the habs, that will put a smile on any bruin fans face.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

Yes, Herr Hub, we would be happy, truly happy, with success. New England, MA in particular, has a fondness for Calvinism, but don't equate Bruins fans with Red Sox fans. The latter have a self-absorbed inferiority complex & revel in perpetual angst; the former can be compared to a loyal dog that's been kicked in the teeth for thirty-plus years.

There's a difference. :(

if the Bruins were good I'd have nothing to complain about so I'd probably leave and follow the Black Hawks


I thought you were going to leave us for Detroit? :dunno: :D

I would definitely be happy if the B's were winning and in 1st. Winning conceals a lot of the stuff that losing reveals. Jacobs would be more endearing, MOC would be a genius (well, maybe not quite) and Sully would be a young hotshot coach. I like a lot of the players and if they were winning, I wouldn't be worrying about heart, leadership, pride, grit.

And maybe the ad campaign wouldn't be so darn laughable!

Of course, I'd get annoyed at some things, when I was having a bad day. There's always room for improvement and I'd add my two cents. :)

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub


Interesting question. It would be provocative to monitor board traffic and activity in the good/ and bad times.

I know that for myself; and most, it's human nature to take the good things for granted. A win/ success becomes expected, and to be honest I was weaned on this team in that mindset. This team always came to play; and always had success in one form or another. It was very easy to be proud of this team.

In relation to the recent success of your football team (the Patriots), I recall the glory years of the Toronto Blue Jays, and after two straight World Series Wins, nothing but winning was exceptable. To the point where attendance dropped from a record 4 million a year -- to half of that.

I suspect you already know the answer, and just like CNN likes a good war, I'd suppose forums such as this, and outlets like the Boston Globe, only really benefit from bad news.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

Yes.

Unfortunately we don't have a control group for this experiment since the Apple I hadn't been invented and ARPANET had barely begun in 1972.

We would go back to complainin about Rene Rancourt, poor NESN or OLN coverage, missed checks by so and so, man the Garden is such a boring building, Whats with there music anyways, Why are Jerseys sooo expensive, and why cant we win a plyoff series ;)

Trade Rancourt. Immediately.

Damn, I have an 8 year old that says he sings like a frog. No pun intended. Kids say the darndest things.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub
c'mon. you know the answer to that after witnessing the red sox. it was one month of elation and right back to misery.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???
-hub
At this point, I would settle for them being mediocre, if it looked like there was a light at the end of the tunnel. Right now, all I see is more tunnel and China ahead...

As for kvetching, it's in our Red(Sox) blood. We always look for the tarnish on the silver lining. Look at how people jumped on and off the Pats bandwagon this year. How many times did you hear folks say,"Oh, they suck, forget about them..." Um, excuse me, until February, the New England Patriots are the DEFENDING SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS and nothing less. Somebody's got to knock off the king of the hill until then.
There isn't much to enjoy about our Boston Bruins right now. They traded their most talented player away,misspent their salary on offensive "talent", underspent on defense, and lost track of a star netminder, all in one prolonged offseason. Oh, and they ticked off a couple of their current players who will be looking for the EXIT door a little quicker now that they've hit rock bottom in the standings and started digging...
At this point, I would think the anticipation is akin to watching NASCAR. We're watching them go round and round, eagerly awaiting the next wreck. Or firing.

To answer your question bluntly, sure we could be happy with success. However, with O'Connell and the Brothers Grimm,um Jacobs, in the drivers's seat, I don't anticipate us being able to SEE the answer to your question anytime soon.

Absolutely yes.

It would be sweet to be winning; I can't imagine what this place would look like though. We'd probably have a zillion new members that I could never keep track of.
Although I'm still something of an outsider; I love this place just like it is now. There isn't any bandwagon here (except the fire everybody one; but that doesn't count any more 'cause we're all on it). So I'd hate to trade that; but I would for another 10 wins (and of course Zhamnov's salary dump).

hub what is your definition of success. because i was born in 70 outside boston and the only owner of this franchise i have ever known hasnt even tasted success. in sports it is all or nothing and this owner has shown be dirt. i used to be proud to be a bruins fan now its ****ing embarassing even to people who dont have a clue about the sport. i will always love this team because of where i grew up but i have come to the point were the portland pirates are more interesting. :thumbd:

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

I may be sick, but I'm not THAT sick.

In Rummie talk, "Would I be happy if the Bruins were where the Sens are now? Yer darn tootin'.

Would I read all the BS about how 'we' should trade (fill in the blank) for (fill in the blank) as though 'we' really matter except as buyers of tickets and hot dogs? Nope."

I'm just waiting for the turn. There have to be big changes afoot, and I don't want to miss them. If they were on top of the division, I'd be waiting for the playoffs and living a semi-regular life.

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hubI'm a very happy Patriots fan, and have been for 4 years.

Of course, there is less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching, but that does not make it any less fun. It's much more fun, actually.

What about you, Hub? :)

Black and Gold LF'ers -- Wondering, if these guys were good, would you actually enjoy the ``being engaged'' here any more than you do now?
Honest, I wonder. If they were leading the conference, wouldn't there be so much less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching.
Maybe some of the enjoyment, or at least the ``staying tuned'' ,is based on the fact that they stink, and the anticipation that they'll have to do something, pronto, before the entire hockey worlds is knocked off its axis.
Thoughts? Could you be happy, truly happy, with success???

-hub

For me --as a quick example-- my wife makes her speciality hot wings on Saturday night (they are AMAZING) but only when the Bruins are winning... when they are losing they are just wings.

Strange eh? The food just doesn't taste as good when the Bruins are losing. :dunno:

I don't get this thread..Happy that they are losing? :dunno: I don't even feel like watching anymore..Meanwhile I can't wait for the Pats game! Does that answer your silly little question?

[QUOTE=Mike B.]I'm a very happy Patriots fan, and have been for 4 years.

Of course, there is less worry and angst, analysis and kvetching, but that does not make it any less fun. It's much more fun, actually.

What about you, Hub? :)[/QUOTE


Far better for me, in every way imaginable, if they win. First and foremost, because winning brings readers, and less email. Losing brings a lot of email, very negative, and loaded with blame--a good amount of it directed my way, which I find, for the most part, hysterical.

Worst of all: a .500 team. Difficult to write. Difficult to stay engaged.

A bad team usually leads to interesting writing, and a minority of very engaged, and oft-enraged readers. Professionally fine to deal with. On a personal level, a downer, because of friends around the product who take it personally, risk losing jobs, etc. But, life in the big city, right?

-hub