Prospects

PanthersRule96
10-21-2003, 02:38 PM
As I've predicted, Taticek has been doing quite well in the setup role. Shvidki is tearing it up which will earn him a callup eventually. 2g 4 a 6 pts. 5 games. Weiss is like 1 goals and 2 assists in 5 games. It is quite dissapointing to see him producing like this. He should be scoring. Hopefully he'll turn out better than Chistov or other guys picked around him. Campbell look pretty good. I'm surprised they sent him down.

Lines I wish are

Hagman-Jokinen-Shvidki
Huselius-Kozlov-Nedorost
Nilson-Horton-Samuelsson
Messier-McDonald-Hordichuk

Extras (Novoseltsev, Bednar)

Takkie
10-21-2003, 02:45 PM
hmm. i really like your lines. except that second line is a little soft. maybe move huselius up and bring hagman down so you have physical presence on each line.

jacksheit
10-21-2003, 03:25 PM
Lines I wish are

Hagman-Jokinen-Shvidki
Huselius-Kozlov-Nedorost
Nilson-Horton-Samuelsson
Messier-McDonald-Hordichuk

Extras (Novoseltsev, Bednar)

Shvidki is too soft, he hasta hit mor ei think

Coolburn
10-21-2003, 04:57 PM
I'm working on a spreadsheet now with all our prospects, where they're playin and all their stats. But obviously the guys in San Antonio are playing pretty well. But some of our guys in college are doing well also...some of the junior players are doing well. I'll update it after tomorrow's game between the Rampage and Grizzlies for all to see.

Heimy
10-21-2003, 08:30 PM
I'm working on a spreadsheet now with all our prospects, where they're playin and all their stats. But obviously the guys in San Antonio are playing pretty well. But some of our guys in college are doing well also...some of the junior players are doing well. I'll update it after tomorrow's game between the Rampage and Grizzlies for all to see.


Cool daddio! :yo: Let's sticky it :rolly:

Coolburn
10-22-2003, 03:46 AM
Several of our prospects are in games tonite so I'll post it tomorrow morning with all the updates. You should see how hard it is to compile some of the stats for the Euro players...I'm learning bits and pieces of Swedish, Finnish, Russian and a few other languages as a result
:lol:

Hell, I get confused when I go to the website for HC Lugano with plays in Switzerland but the website is usually in Italian (who in 15 games thus far has 12 wins...and is the place that Adrian Wichser plays). And some places just don't update stats very well (like HC Lugano). So some of it might be incomplete but better than nothing.

MoeHowardDavid
10-22-2003, 12:45 PM
Several of our prospects are in games tonite so I'll post it tomorrow morning with all the updates. You should see how hard it is to compile some of the stats for the Euro players...I'm learning bits and pieces of Swedish, Finnish, Russian and a few other languages as a result
:lol:

Hell, I get confused when I go to the website for HC Lugano with plays in Switzerland but the website is usually in Italian (who in 15 games thus far has 12 wins...and is the place that Adrian Wichser plays). And some places just don't update stats very well (like HC Lugano). So some of it might be incomplete but better than nothing.

Good luck Rich, I look forward to it.

Coolburn
10-22-2003, 02:48 PM
If anyone has any clue as to the location of Janis Sprukts or David Morisset, I would be grateful. Those are the only 2 prospects that I can't find anywhere and I've done a lot of searching. Also, I thought FL was giving Nilson's brother a shot to play in the ECHL...but he's not listed with their team so maybe he just didn't stick but I dunno about him either.

GudVibransons
10-22-2003, 03:33 PM
I believe Morrisset is on IR. He is listed on NHLPA.com. I was hoping you would know where Sprukts is. I remember him being signed and sent to San Antonio, but he just disappeared. Anybody have a program from one of the home games that might list his location? I know last year they had their prospect updates.

Donga
10-22-2003, 04:26 PM
Looking up the tsn.ca site... it states that Sprukts has been assigned to Augusta Lynx in ECHL. I hope that helps RP.

Coolburn
10-22-2003, 05:11 PM
Thanks guys. I figured that Morisset was on the IR and I haven't seen Sprukts on Augusta's roster so I think he might be on the IR too. I was able to get a lot more in-depth stats earlier before the game and got to update a few Euros as a result. Now to just update all the NA games for tonite and I'll link the spreadsheet for everyone.

#edit# and I'm glad I waited for tonites games...a few of our junior players had some big nites including Dany Roussin (2g 3a) and Stefan Meyer (1g 1a thru 2 periods).

Clash*
10-22-2003, 05:58 PM
Last year, it took the Jackson Bandits almost a month to update their roster after Olsen was sent down. The ECHL teams aren't necessarily on top of that with their websites.

Coolburn
10-23-2003, 03:12 AM
Well I got the spreadsheet all done and watch on Friday, the Growl will have that prospect update thing too :dunno: But this way you get it a day early :rolly: In the near future, I'm going to try to build a database instead so its easier to update and it could be more sortable because right now its just alphabetical. I need to move my domain to something other than where its located but for now, its something & doesn't cost me too much. Enjoy guys!

http://www.coolburn.com/prospects.htm

PS: oh by the way, if anyone is interested, I do have a login for central scouting and the preliminary rankings will be out in November. I'll figure out a way to allow us all to see those when they're out.

GudVibransons
10-23-2003, 04:45 AM
Any idea what's up with Mikael Vuorio, the only goalie prospect we have not already in our minor league system? He's the only omission from the list.

Coolburn
10-23-2003, 01:56 PM
Any idea what's up with Mikael Vuorio, the only goalie prospect we have not already in our minor league system? He's the only omission from the list.I guess you didn't see the tab at the bottom which says Skaters & Goalies so if you click on it you'll see our 4 deep system of goaltenders. I separated them because it made it easier for me. I found Vuorio playing for Jukurit of the Mikkeli League (its not up to the level of SM-Liga) but there's been no stats for him that I could find.

jacksheit
10-23-2003, 02:12 PM
Well I got the spreadsheet all done and watch on Friday, the Growl will have that prospect update thing too :dunno: But this way you get it a day early :rolly: In the near future, I'm going to try to build a database instead so its easier to update and it could be more sortable because right now its just alphabetical. I need to move my domain to something other than where its located but for now, its something & doesn't cost me too much. Enjoy guys!

http://www.coolburn.com/prospects.htm

PS: oh by the way, if anyone is interested, I do have a login for central scouting and the preliminary rankings will be out in November. I'll figure out a way to allow us all to see those when they're out.

why dont u be the editor for the florida panthers site on hockeysfuture.com?????
then need sumone, florida is like the only team with out representation

Coolburn
10-23-2003, 03:06 PM
why dont u be the editor for the florida panthers site on hockeysfuture.com?????
then need sumone, florida is like the only team with out representationI appreciate the vote of confidence because whoever takes over as editor of the Panthers has some very big shoes to fill. I've thought about it, talked to Mark, & discussed a sharing of writing with another poster on here. We both felt we wouldn't have enough time by ourselves and wanted to split up the duties. But I'm a software developer in the middle of a huge project for a very big national client (put it this way, you see an advertisement for them in every sunday paper) and I've been extremely busy lately. Hopefully, once its complete (the client expects it by Nov 3rd), I'll have more time. But since its due in just over a week, I'll be working crazy hours and weekends (I'll most likely miss the games this weekend). After the 3rd, I'll talk with that other poster (not sure if they would want to be identified at this point) and see what they want to do.

Coolburn
10-23-2003, 03:24 PM
Oh by the way, those that haven't seen it the HF org rankings are out & we're #4 on the list. If you wanna read it yourself, here's the link:

http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=1775600

Thewbacca
10-23-2003, 04:46 PM
I think John Hecimovic was a great draft pick. So far in the OHL this year he has 5 goals, 5 assists in 11 games this season. At 6'2" 217ibs.? he is a nice powerforward. He and Stewart are going to add alot of strength to the RW.

Coolburn
10-23-2003, 05:07 PM
I think John Hecimovic was a great draft pick. So far in the OHL this year he has 5 goals, 5 assists in 11 games this season. At 6'2" 217ibs.? he is a nice powerforward. He and Stewart are going to add alot of strength to the RW.Wanna talk about great draft picks...look at Dany Roussin from Rimouski of the Q. The kid is 5th in scoring in the Q!!! Yes he's playing on Crosby's LW so his numbers may be inflated but he's taking advantage of that. He was drafted in the 7th round.

Another player that I like is Lojek...he's more of a defensive d-man and is a top pairing guy for Brampton in his first season in the OHL.

And if its not apparent by now, I'm a HUGE fan of Globke who's on pace for a goal per game average for his senior yr. And another RW who has size, looks like we have a lot of options on the right side to consider for the future.

#edit# actually I was wrong about Roussin...he's not playing on a line with Crosby from what I've read...he's playing with Pouliot, who was drafted in the 1st round this past yr by Edm. So maybe his stats aren't as inflated as I originally thought.

jacksheit
10-23-2003, 06:23 PM
RichPanther
I really think u should take the editor job
even if u only put in a lil time, just to atleast give the players rankings etc.

Coolburn
10-24-2003, 03:34 AM
RichPanther
I really think u should take the editor job
even if u only put in a lil time, just to atleast give the players rankings etc.Like I said, maybe after the 3rd of November I'll have the time and then talk it over with the other person. If you want me to just give the players rankings, I have already done a preliminary ranking without much thought into it while I was looking at the spreadsheet yesterday. I didn't get a chance to update all the stats from yesterday so I'll post the new version sometime this weekend when I have a few mins.

Coolburn
10-24-2003, 03:10 PM
I re-organized the spreadsheet and found Nilson's brother playing for the Laredo Bucks of the CHL so I added his stats on there too. I separated all the different positions with different tabs at the bottom. I did my best to find stats for players but its very difficult unless you speak 9 languages. And with the request of jack, I also put some preliminary rankings which are just my opinion only but goes along with HF's standards (even though some of our minor leagurers aren't considered prospects by HF). I'll link those standards and the new prospect stats for everyone to see.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections.php

http://www.coolburn.com/prospects.htm

#edit# holy crap, Hecimovic had a great nite with 2g 1a (one of those goals was on the PP) and was the 1st star of the nite...looking more and more like an amazing steal by Dudley :handclap: And Roussin has another solid nite with 1g 2a...let's see if he can keep it up and maybe he's another steal too :bow:

Coolburn
10-26-2003, 04:06 AM
Updated from yesterday's games...I gotta luv Weiss leading the Rampage in scoring :handclap:

Coolburn
10-27-2003, 03:22 AM
Updated again with the OHL & WHL games from yesterday. Gotta say it looks impressive that Hecimovic has 8g in 13 games (4 of which were on the PP).

The good part of tracking our prospects is I can get some info on potential draft picks...one to remember is Wojtek Wolski who plays for Brampton of the OHL, 6'2" 190lbs LW and should be a top 10 (possibly top 5) pick.

Spiffy
10-27-2003, 03:56 AM
I guess you didn't see the tab at the bottom which says Skaters & Goalies so if you click on it you'll see our 4 deep system of goaltenders. I separated them because it made it easier for me. I found Vuorio playing for Jukurit of the Mikkeli League (its not up to the level of SM-Liga) but there's been no stats for him that I could find.

Mikkeli is the hometown of Jukurit. The league they play in is called Mestis and it is the second highest league in Finland.

Acadmus
10-27-2003, 04:58 AM
Wanna talk about great draft picks...look at Dany Roussin from Rimouski of the Q. The kid is 5th in scoring in the Q!!! Yes he's playing on Crosby's LW so his numbers may be inflated but he's taking advantage of that. He was drafted in the 7th round.


You know, I'm almost hoping the Panthers finish in the cellar in 2005 so we have the best chance at grabbing Crosby :D I haven't seen him play, but I've read what's written about him and seen his stats, and the fact that he's always the best player in whatever level he plays even though he's often the youngest. This kid is shaping up to be the real deal, the next Gretzky/Lemieux in terms of scoring ability. It'd be nice to have him.

But it'd be nicer to see the team win the Cup ;)

Acadmus
10-27-2003, 05:06 AM
Updated from yesterday's games...I gotta luv Weiss leading the Rampage in scoring :handclap:

I'd feel better about it if he wasn't -4 with 6 points in 8 games on a team that's 5-2-1. Seems more that their record and success is a team effort, and Weiss (and several others) need to learn the tricky art of generating offense while still minding defense.
Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like Weiss, I just don't want to get my hopes up for the organization's prospects until they really start to gel and wow in the AHL - then they'll have hope for success in the NHL.

But, the season's young.

Thewbacca
10-27-2003, 06:31 AM
Anyone know what Kamil Kreps and Stephan Meyer have for potential? I think both still need time to develop but I think they could be great picks. They don't seem to be physical but I heard they're pretty fast and skilled with the puck.

Thewbacca
10-27-2003, 06:35 AM
Whats the deal with Vuorio? Is he still developing in europe?

Lloyd Braun
10-27-2003, 11:19 AM
Anyone know what Kamil Kreps and Stephan Meyer have for potential? I think both still need time to develop but I think they could be great picks. They don't seem to be physical but I heard they pretty fast and skilled with the puck.

Meyer is fairly physical. Check out his PIMs. Kreps looks sort of like a Viktor Kozlov clone. Not nearly as big as Vik, but plays the same sort of style. As for Vuorio, I dunno. I can't read Finnish and can't seem to find goalie stats for that Mestis league.

Coolburn
10-27-2003, 02:19 PM
Mikkeli is the hometown of Jukurit. The league they play in is called Mestis and it is the second highest league in Finland.Thank you for that clarification...I'm slowing learning some Finnish as I'm searching for "Tilastot" (translated as stats for us that speak English ;))

All I can find for Vuorio is that he's played in 12 games but can't get his actual stats. The link to the site I've been using is http://www.jatkoaika.com/mestis.php

Given that Vuorio is only 19, he still has time to develop but last yr he was with Luuko Rauma which is in the SM-Liiga (top league in Finland). So I dunno what is going on with him exactly.

GudVibransons
10-27-2003, 02:24 PM
If I remember his stats from last year correctly, Vuorio got very little playing time last year. Him playing in a lower league could be good so he gets a lot more playing time. He may have already played more games this year than last year.

Clash*
10-28-2003, 05:15 PM
Here's a link to Vuorio's stats for past seasons, accorind to HockeyDB.com

The man played 7 games in two years for the SM-Liiga team.

Coolburn
11-01-2003, 03:41 AM
Figured I'd update the stats really quick before I left to work this weekend...I might leave earlier and go to the game tonite depending on how things go. Of note, Max Birbraer was demoted to Laredo of the CHL. I still can't get Vuorio goaltending stats (I checked the Jukurit website and the other one I've linked) and so those aren't correct but I see his name a few times on the front page of the team website so I know he's playing.

http://www.coolburn.com/prospects.htm