Ehrhoff to Cleveland

mage23
10-22-2003, 09:31 AM
Per Ross McKeon in the SF Chronicle, Fahey was sent to Cleveland before the game yesterday to make room on the roster for Stuart.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/10/22/SPG2L2GHKO1.DTL

However, per SJSharks.com this morning, Ehrhoff was sent to Cleveland, and Fahey was recalled (somehow I doubt Fahey ever left SJ)... :)

http://www.sjsharks.com/sharks/news/20031022-1066846350.htm

Baron Von Shark
10-22-2003, 09:39 AM
Wth, they assigned Fahey to Cleveland then brought him back? Did I miss that or did they not PR that bit of info?

Anyways, good move for Christian.

mage23
10-22-2003, 09:46 AM
Wth, they assigned Fahey to Cleveland then brought him back? Did I miss that or did they not PR that bit of info?

Anyways, good move for Christian.

I agree... good move for Christian's development.

They never released a press release about Fahey last night, but did mention it this morning in the press release that stated he was recalled... hehh.

zecke26
10-22-2003, 11:07 AM
which areas of christian's play weren't as good as they should have been to keep him up with the big boys? i've seen him play a lot in the past and he sometimes was too selfish with the puck. especially with the man-advantage. he often tried to shoot the puck thru an opponent instead of passing to a better positioned player. was there any improvement?

nevertheless, it's good to know that he will get a lot more ice time in cleveland.

Serena587
10-22-2003, 11:07 AM
That's great!! I've been looking forward to seeing him play! :handclap:

Kevin Wey
10-22-2003, 11:34 AM
Well, we'll see what happens, but I may owe Tom Preissing a Coke after possibly being the winner of the 6th defenseman spot and fulfilling my prediction. Ehrhoff came on stronger, but Preissing has slowly surpassed Ehrhoff, mostly because of maturity. Ehrhoff's DEL advantage was greater than I thought it'd be to start camp compared to Preissing, but Preissing's achieving the level I thought he'd be at as he's adapted to NHL hockey.

As for the Fahey assignment...that's pretty slick :) I wonder how long the Sharks could do that before each game before the NHL would crack down on it.

X-SHARKIE
10-22-2003, 01:48 PM
Ehrhoff was just not smart on plays defensivly. I think this is a good move. Give the kid loaads of Ice time.

VP and GM
10-22-2003, 08:47 PM
Christian has some work to do on the D side of his game and will
get the time to do this in the A. He's just not physical enough
and gets pushed around in the corners and in front of the net.
I thought he would stick over preissing - I owe Kevin 2 cokes
one for this and for Ekman sticking.

elvis
10-23-2003, 07:49 AM
He does not play the body well, but the two games I was at I watched Christian every shift.

He was a lot better defensively that I thought he would be. Christian had the speed to get back on defense, and to make up for some of his mistakes in his own zone. Not to mention that end-to-end rush against Anaheim was reason to keep him on the roster by itself. There are few reasons to watch the Sharks the season, and one of the best was just sent down.

And McLaren looked a lot worse when they were paired. I guess going from Bourque to Ehrhoff has its drawbacks.

X-SHARKIE
10-23-2003, 12:40 PM
Kevin your plus one so far.

Predicted Preissing and Ekman to stay up in the bigs.
But Michalek beat out Zalesak who you said would stay.

Still thats impressive.

elvis
10-23-2003, 06:18 PM
McLaren still looks horrible tonight.

One of the interviews on the radio said Ehrhoff was sent down because Davison would have had to clear waivers. And they wanted Christian to get 30 minutes a night for "seasoning".

Might be a short stay in Cleveland.

Kevin Wey
10-24-2003, 04:05 AM
I thought Zalesak would win on politics (Waiver conditions). Well, he ended up on the exposed list in the Waiver Draft, so it was clear that was not going to happen right there! Not a big deal.

I spaced out the game last night, Chicago had it on. I went weightlifting...which is more important for my own hockey, but still a bummer for me.

mage23
10-25-2003, 02:39 PM
McLaren still looks horrible tonight.


He looked a lot better than Rathje against Chicago -- and I'm not just counting the bonehead pass and fall-down play. I'm used to McLaren being out of position because of hitting people, but this year it's been more about his positioning (or, in the case of the anaheim game, the fact that he wasn't skating to catch up to the play).

elvis
10-27-2003, 11:26 AM
Not skating fast enough to catch up to the play happens occasionally for forwards. For defenseman it is huge. I have seen McLaren loaf it three times on goals against.

One where Ehrhoff took the lead on a 2-1, one where another forward tried harder to get back than Kyle, and I forgot the third.

Nabokov is struggling and needs some help from the defense. Ragnarsson was underrated.

Kevin Wey
10-27-2003, 11:38 AM
All why when anybody comes in asking about trades with the Sharks, the first defenseman available is Kyle McLaren. He's a vet, not averaging a great deal of minutes, if Edmonton wants McLaren and something else reasonable for Comrie, full steam ahead. Thankfully the McLaren trade didn't cost San Jose too much really. I mean, Jillson wasn't working out, so...and if Jillson succeeds in Boston, good for him. It just wasn't working in San Jose, and San Jose has Fahey, Preissing and Ehrhoff to do what Jillson was supposed to do...no worries.

If San Jose is going to lose, I'd rather it be with Stuart, Rathje, Hannan, Fahey, Ehrhoff, Preissing, and Davison. (McLaren out) Give Ehrhoff "seasoning" in the NHL, because he has three years of DEL seasoning.

Also, if still allowed, San Jose should sign Garrett Stafford. Nothing to lose, and I wouldn't mind him being at least a mainstay in Cleveland for two-years. (The normal contract for guys his age coming out of college.) This way, next year Cleveland could have at least Stafford, Gorges and Cloutier to provide offense from the blueline.

mage23
10-27-2003, 11:41 AM
Not skating fast enough to catch up to the play happens occasionally for forwards. For defenseman it is huge. I have seen McLaren loaf it three times on goals against.

One where Ehrhoff took the lead on a 2-1, one where another forward tried harder to get back than Kyle, and I forgot the third.

Nabokov is struggling and needs some help from the defense. Ragnarsson was underrated.

McLaren is not the only defenseman guilty of this though... I do know what you mean though... if you watch Kyle, he doesn't always skate hard.

Ragnarsson is last on the flyers on +/-. What does that have to do with anything? I dunno, why'd you bring him into the equation? McLaren wasn't acquired for Rags.

mage23
10-27-2003, 11:53 AM
All why when anybody comes in asking about trades with the Sharks, the first defenseman available is Kyle McLaren. He's a vet, not averaging a great deal of minutes, if Edmonton wants McLaren and something else reasonable for Comrie, full steam ahead.

IMO, the smarter thing to do would be to move Rathje. Rat is approaching the end of his contract (and with the CBA stuff, might very well be a UFA). In addition, you'd probably get a very good return on a guy like Rathje, because the league knows he's solid and just needs a new start somewhere that isn't SJ.

Baron Von Shark
10-27-2003, 11:58 AM
IMO, the smarter thing to do would be to move Rathje. Rat is approaching the end of his contract (and with the CBA stuff, might very well be a UFA). In addition, you'd probably get a very good return on a guy like Rathje, because the league knows he's solid and just needs a new start somewhere that isn't SJ.
Through the first few weeks of the season, Rathje and Mclaren have played extremely subpar. I don't what it is, but they are not skating hard, and as a result they're getting caught flat footed giving up odd man rushes. It's very discouraging when this comes from two NHL vets, two experienced players not only on the blueline, but on the team, that are supposed to be setting examples for our younger players.