Kings pursue Oilers' Comrie

The Kings have had conversations with Edmonton concerning holdout center Mike Comrie, league sources said Friday, but for now the Oilers do not want to trade him to a Western Conference rival.

Two years ago, Allison was a holdout with Boston when the Kings acquired him in late October for Jozef Stumpel and Glen Murray. That deal was made when the team was in Florida. The Kings open a four-game trip Wednesday against the Florida Panthers.

http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~29583~1736998,00.html

wow.. that is good news to hear. i do think it's time to pursue somebody to replace allison, even if a temporary solution. with all the "allison is getting worse" posts and reports, i was wondering where all that insurance money was going. we must have saved an additional $3 million at the minimum by now, so this is where players like comrie can play for us.

i can see how DT is hesitant to make a move when we need it most, seeing that most clubs will make us pay dearly for it, so hoepfully he does a trade that benefits us in future AND present

The Kings could really use Comrie with Allison out. But Lowe is going to ask for a top prospect and I'm not too sure Taylor is willing to give up either Frolov, Brown, or Gresbeskov just yet.

The Kings could really use Comrie with Allison out. But Lowe is going to ask for a top prospect and I'm not too sure Taylor is willing to give up either Frolov, Brown, or Gresbeskov just yet.

wouldnt give up on em to make the playoffs this year...I'd rather miss, draft one last time & make moves while the CBA figures itself out

Then go back to work with one of the younger teams in the leauge, decide if you wanna keep Ziggy & add peices from there

The Kings could really use Comrie with Allison out. But Lowe is going to ask for a top prospect and I'm not too sure Taylor is willing to give up either Frolov, Brown, or Gresbeskov just yet.
i'm not too sure that edmonton is exactly looking for those guys. i'm sure they wouldn't mind hving them and their names have probably come up in trade talks, but edmonton needs a roster player who can step in and make an impact tomorrow. and he has to be affordable; they've said they want a top-six forward or a top-three defenseman. i don't think the kings have something like that, and as such i don't think we're good trading partners with the oil.

now, if that's incorrect, and they really would be happy with a prospect or a very young player (like frolov), then yeah, a deal could be reached, and we would be great partners.

I'm pretty sure Lowe would settle for getting some combination of Frolov/Grebeshkov/Brown/Gleason.. though none are huge impact players yet, most would probably make the Oilers and would likely interest Lowe. I think the Kings would have to overpay to acquire Comrie however.. trading a potential star to a division rival is almost never a good idea.

i really doubt this is going to happen. lowe and dt are both too smart/stingy to be able to get a trade going through. plus, lowe hasn't shown any signs of panic in trying to unload him and there's not much we can offer without selling our farm.

wishful thinking, but think not...

I am sure that Lowe would settle for some combination of Ebell and Tambellini or Cammo and a fourth but that doesn't make it a good deal for us. Why would we give up ANY of these guys in a combo for Comrie. Now I LOVE Comrie and think that he is THE guy that we should pursue because when he comes back he can play ANYWHERE on our top six that we want AND still play as our third line center and PKer too. He is solid in every spot you put him in and if that Allizone guy (whoever he is) EVER comes back you get Comrie as the missing winger on his line AND after this year we have our SOLID second line center.

That being said I wouldn't give up more than Ebell Modry and a mid pick for him. The Oils need a O minded D man and we have enough guys to make Modry available. His salary could be covered by what they were going to pay Comrie and you would still have enough to pay Ebell too. The Oil fans would LOVE Ebell up there and I feel that he would become a very good top sixer there.

I just agree with Dt's thinking on these things. With the exception of 87 we have NEVER had a great team that was built around a mix of super young players and veteran talent. I like the fact that Comrie is young but I still wouldn't give up two of our young studs for him and a pick or whatever else they want. Why? I mean, Frolov has star skills and is 20 and has yet to play for our team when it is healthy for more than a few games. Give the kid some time where his only responsibility is to be a young up and coming star winger for us and I feel he will shine. Cammo has the same skills and potential that Comrie has and if he was part of a deal (Ebell and Cammo) then sure, that would make sense but I wouldn't just throw him out like an expendable asset until I knew what he was capable of. Aulin (I don't think he will EVER be healthy) was starting to shine last year at the end and COULD also be a very good young player. Gleason was thrown to the wolves and was forced to be one of our go to guys on D this year and has been excellent when you consider that he had dick for NHL experience before this season and that he hasn't had one game where he was awful the whole game AND that he is 20. Grebs is considered by MOST NHL scouts etc as the best young D prospect not in the game and he is mentioned in the same breath as Pitkaenen and Jaybo quite often. Vis is starting to really look special. Tambellini has great skills and is very highly touted. ETC ETC ETC.

You have to give talent to get it but there is just no way in the world I would give up TWO of our top prospects for Comrie when it is VERY POSSIBLE that BOTH of those kids could be better than him in a year or two at the most.

I love Ebell and don't want to lose him but knowing that it takes talent to get it I would. I would add Modry in (of course expecting something back) on the deal because we are going to have to over pay a little bit to get the deal done and we have enough young D that have some O skills to fill his place there and they are all much better in their own end then Modry is right now. (if you ask me)

It just riles me a bit to see proposals that say things like "I bet we could get him for a comination of any of these two prospects Pushkaryov/Anshankov/Cammo/Tambs/Grebs/Gleason etc. I just think that would be allot like what we have done over the histroy of our org and as proven, that would be a big mistake.

IGM: while you make several valid points, you make it sound like Comrie is a old timer...he's 23. LA would not be mortgaging their future if they got youth for youth.

Suggestion:

Frolov(21) & Gleason (20) ----- for ----- Comrie (23) & Rita (22)/ Chimera (24)

From a Kings perspective I'd be happy with trading a first round pick and either Modry and Tambelini for Comrie.

"I like the fact that Comrie is young ".

That quote is from my post. I like the fact that Comrie is young and that is actually what I feel is the only reason to consider him in a deal over any other center that is available. The point I am making is that even though he is young and solid I wouldn't give up two of any of our top young prospects to get him. There is just no reason to. The type of prospects that the Oil will want are going to be the ones that very easily could turn out as good or better than Comrie. Frolov is starting to get some ice time and STILL hasn't spent any significant time with the same line mates or on a top six forward line. If you give that kid 20 games with Ziggy and Stympy you can bet that he would have a significant increase in his scoring.

Gleason is a stud who as a very young guy is holding his own and showing signs of being a great young D man.

Cammo has allot to prove as does Aulin but and that is why I said I would give up one of them in a deal. IF you send Cammo and a fifth round pick and Cammo turns out as good as Comrie then it isn't as big of a blow as it is if you send both Cammo and Aulin and they both turn into the players they look like they could in the near future. That would be a big blow to the team.

To even consider sending kids like Push, Anshankov, Frolov, Gleason, Grebs or Tambellini away is a very very big deal, to say that we should package TWO of them is insane. The Kings have finally (for the second time in club history) gotten a solid group of young players together and while you have to give to get, I just don't think that you move even one of them to bring in anyone unless he is a proven young player like Comrie. To move two of them is just wrong. Of course, our scouting that brought us these great kids and our GM that has done such a great job at helping us keep them certainly know more about the potential of each of these kids so if DT pulled a deal involving two of them then I could accept it because I would know that they knew something I or we didn't.

Oh, and you aren't suggesting that as a deal are you? I took it as you were using those players to make your point that all of the players mentioned were around the same age and not that you would deal Frolov and Gleason for Comrie/Rita and Chimera.

That's exactly what I'm proposing:

Frolov (a young budding star)
Gleason (a former first rounder with an uncontested roster position)

----- for -----

Comrie (a young star that's already sprouted)
Rita (a former first rounder with a highly contested roster position -- Hemsky, Dvorak, Pisani, Laraque. He's only been able to play 12 plays thus far in his career and he's got 3 goals and an assist...He'll get his shot soon enough or somewhere else.)

** Lowe could thow in a 3rd in an early season deal to spice things up. Around the trade deadline or the draft, however, he'll get better value for Comrie....And Lowe IS prepared to wait as long as it takes. There will be no Comrie for Cammo and a pick deals...sorry.

There will be no Comrie for Cammo and a pick deals...sorry.

And thats based on your opinion? Atlanta is offering stefan, buffalo is offering connolly and you expect the kings to offer frolov? Comries value will be determined by the market, not you.

And thats based on your opinion? Atlanta is offering stefan, buffalo is offering connolly and you expect the kings to offer frolov? Comries value will be determined by the market, not you.

And thats based on what some reporter thinks or 'heard'? Next meeting you sit in on, be sure to tape record it..I would love to know exactly whats being offered. :p

But I'm not going to get into any of the proposals. Rather just sit it out and see what happens. If Lowe can't get a good deal back, I'm fine with letting Comrie sit.

i believe lowe is fine with letting comrie sit also. seeing as our team is still .500 w/o allison/deadmarsh, i'm hoping DT wont' be too hasty in jumping into a trade. which is why i think in the end, nothing wil happen between us

You're absolutely right! The "market" and not I will determine what Lowe gets for Comrie. And Lowe will wait... Markets shift and shuffle just as supply and demand does. What happens near the end of the season when a "big market" team is on the bubble? Will we slip in with the 8th seed or will we just miss it and incur the wrath of our season ticket holders? Or better still: what happens if a "top tier" team like Detroit, Colorado, Philly, Toronto or StL has a real good shot at winning it all near the end of the season and they lose their top center to serious injury (and you can bet it's going to happen to a few good teams)?

What would Comrie's market value be then, Zeppelin?

Maybe Comrie couldn't fetch Frolov right now...Maybe you're right. But I'll bet you something else. Any team interested in Comrie now should look long and hard NOW! Near the deadline, I wouldn't be surprised if the price tag were much, MUCH higher.

...but let's wait and watch the market dictate itself.