Bruinaholic 06-27-2006, 12:05 PM Draft is a day away and although there doesnt seem to be any real game breakers it still has alot of good talent and the interesting thing is any player can pretty much go anywhere
Being a Celtics fan i hope they heed Paul Pierces advice and trade the #7 pick for a proven player(Celts have tons of young talent to deal Al Jefferson/Kendrick Perkins/Gerald Green/Tony Allen/Ryan Gomes....Delonte West stays!)
I wouldnt mind seeing an effort made to bring in Jermaine Oniel since it lookis like Indy is falling apart at the seams
How about #7 pick+Al Jefferson+a player making some $ for JO whose making about 16-18$per
Nihilism 06-27-2006, 12:13 PM As a Raptor fan, I'm really lookin forward to Wednesday. I wouldn't mind if the Raps traded down, added a solid veteran, and drafted either Rudy Gay or Brandon Roy. However, if they used the #1 to pick Bargnani that would be a great move as well.
My mock draft:
1. Toronto - Andre Bargnani
2. Chicago - Tyrus Thomas
3. Charlotte - LaMarcus Aldridge
4. Portland - Adam Morrison
5. Atlanta - Brandon Roy
6. Minnesota - Rudy Gay
7. Boston - Randy Foye
8. Houston - Sheldon Williams
9. Golden State - Marcus Williams
10. Seattle - Patrick O'Bryant
11. Orlando - Ronnie Brewer
12. New Orleans - Rodney Carney
13. Philadelphia - Cedric Simmons
14. Utah - JJ Redick
Bruinaholic 06-27-2006, 12:30 PM I think both Aldridge and Thomas are gonna be awesome players but in alot of mock drafts ive seen them fall out of the top 5.....
This draft is such a crap shoot, impossible to predict
DevilFisch 06-27-2006, 05:36 PM The NBA Draft is one of the best things on TV. The MSG Theater, everyone is mic'ed up and can be heard, the interviews with drafted, commentators killing picks just as they are made, and this year - incredibly angry Knicks fans!!!
ESPN! Coverage starts at 7 PM (est), draft at 7:30 PM! Be there!
Now I get to wonder who will fall to the Nets and #22 and #23, or whether they'll use those picks to trade up to a lottery spot. They could use a big man who can rebound and a guard who can shoot.
Hawkalyzer 06-27-2006, 07:32 PM I think both Aldridge and Thomas are gonna be awesome players but in alot of mock drafts ive seen them fall out of the top 5.....
This draft is such a crap shoot, impossible to predict
The Bulls will draft Thomas, but yea, this one is a crapshoot if I've ever seen one. I think Gay is a floater who will waste his talent like he did at UConn. Aldridge will be a good 15-8 player. If I had to say something about this draft, it's that there aren't any gamebreakers like Chris Paul, but there are a lot of solid players who can help immedietly. I like Brandon Roy best personally, but the Bulls are strong at guard and seriously lack size that Thomas would give them.
Cerebral 06-27-2006, 08:11 PM It's starting to look like Bargnani will be Toronto's guy at the top spot. He likely won't have to play very many minutes next season as Toronto signed Garbajosa today, the Euroleague MVP.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 06-27-2006, 08:17 PM I kinda hope that the Raptors go after Morrison and trade for Magloire, or draft Aldridge. I wouldn't mind the Italian guy, but I'm not sure he's something they truly need. There's also talk of Charlie V getting traded to fit him in, but we'll see. But, I think they'd have an great line-up in the future were they to do one of the two things I suggested. Either:
Magloire
Bosh
Charlie V
Morrison/Mo Pete
Calderon/Ukic
Mo Pete/Morrison
Graham(unless he goes for Magloire)
Nesterovic
Sow
Ukic/Calderon
Williams
or
Aldridge
Bosh
Charlie V
Mo Pete
Calderon/Ukic
Graham
Nesterovic
Sow
Ukic/Calderon
Williams
would be great line-ups. Can't argue with adding Bargnani, either.
Cerebral 06-27-2006, 08:55 PM I'm just not sold on Morrison defensively. He's a fanastic offensive player but I don't think he'll ever be more than a below average defensive player at the NBA level. Bargnani likely won't be a gem defensively either but at least he has the length to block some shots and take up some space.
Bruinaholic 06-27-2006, 09:10 PM I think Roy will be the best player from this draft....poor mans D-Wade 16-18pts 5ast 4.5reb
kruezer 06-27-2006, 11:33 PM I think I am starting to come around more to the idea of the Raptors taking Bargnani, he does appear to have some huge talent, but I've only seen the highlites of his play. A frontline of Villaneuva/Bargnani/Bosh would be entertaining to say the least, at both ends of the court.
Does anybody know what this guy Garbajosa is about and where he might fit into the Raps lineup?
Cerebral 06-28-2006, 01:56 AM Does anybody know what this guy Garbajosa is about and where he might fit into the Raps lineup?
He's apparently a decent banger with a pretty good shooting touch. I've heard the comparison of Matt Bonner with defence. Apparently he's not very athletic but he has a solid motor and he really gives it his all. He sounds like a pretty solid rotation player and a guy that can at least provide some decent minutes off the bench. I'm guessing he starts out the season as the backup power forward but he'll probably get quite a few minutes while Bargnani develops. I wouldn't be shocked to see a lineup like this at times:
Calderon
Peterson
Graham
Garbajosa
Bosh
Where is Hassan Adams slated to go? Man would I love to see that kid on the Suns. After watching his whole career with the cats id say hes a perfect fit.
Takeo 06-28-2006, 09:08 AM Apparently there's not much highend talent here, but I think this draft is very deep. I'm looking forward to it.
I'm also hoping that Randy and/or Allan and/or Kyle end up on the same team so I can muster a shred of rooting interest in an NBA franchise.
It's a crapshoot as to who's gonna be left for the C's at 7, if they even keep the pick.
I've gotta work, so I won't be here to sit through the first six and speculate on who will drop...
SpeakerForTheDead 06-28-2006, 02:28 PM I still think the Raps will end up trading down.
Teemu 06-28-2006, 03:52 PM I'll be rooting for Dee Brown to get chosen in the 1st round
Cerebral 06-28-2006, 04:04 PM I still think the Raps will end up trading down.
It sounds like Portland is madly trying to trade up in the draft to grab Morrison (in case Charlotte takes him), a deal with them could make some sense (one of Telfair or Outlaw, the 4th pick + possibly their early 2nd round pick).
Edit: Scratch that, Portland just traded Telfair to the Celtics for the 7th pick. I suppose they could still look to move up but I doubt they would part with the 7th pick (although picking 4th + 7th would be golden for the Raptors as they could potentiall grab both Bargnani and Foye/Williams).
Cerebral 06-28-2006, 04:11 PM For those watching the draft, things could get veeeeery interesting if Toronto announces Morrison as the first overall pick. That would likely mean that they have a deal in place with Portland, possibly for the 4th and 7th pick.
Making that deal would ensure that at least one of Bargnani, Thomas, Gay or Aldridge are available at the 4th spot in the draft (Bargnani is a definite possibility as I would see Morrison going first, Aldridge second and Gay third in that scenario). This would be an absolute steal for Toronto if Colangelo can make it happen.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 06-28-2006, 04:35 PM Portland just acquired the 7th overall pick from Boston for Telfair. IMO, Portland did this so they can offer Colangelo the 4th and 7th picks and get first overall to pick Morrison. With #4 and #7, Colangelo could then likely pick Bargnani at #4 and likely a guard at #7. If I were Colangelo, I'd also like to see the Raptors try and acquire Jarrett Jack, although they probably don't want to trade him now that Telfair's gone.
BuppY 06-28-2006, 04:38 PM this is getting interetsing. :)
The Bulls will draft Thomas, but yea, this one is a crapshoot if I've ever seen one. I think Gay is a floater who will waste his talent like he did at UConn. Aldridge will be a good 15-8 player. If I had to say something about this draft, it's that there aren't any gamebreakers like Chris Paul, but there are a lot of solid players who can help immedietly. I like Brandon Roy best personally, but the Bulls are strong at guard and seriously lack size that Thomas would give them.
2 Philadelphia Daily News columnists did mock drafts. 1 had Bargnani going 1st, the other had him going 9th.
I just hope the Sixers don't take someone who can't play defense. I also hope they end up with Stephen Smith in the 2nd round.
In the top 3 or 4 picks of round 1, anyone would be an idiot to not trade down
Cerebral 06-28-2006, 04:48 PM Portland just acquired the 7th overall pick from Boston for Telfair. IMO, Portland did this so they can offer Colangelo the 4th and 7th picks and get first overall to pick Morrison. With #4 and #7, Colangelo could then likely pick Bargnani at #4 and likely a guard at #7. If I were Colangelo, I'd also like to see the Raptors try and acquire Jarrett Jack, although they probably don't want to trade him now that Telfair's gone.
I thought that at first but it is starting to look like Aldridge is actually Portland's guy rather than Morrison unless he is picked up at the 2 spot by Chicago. Alas, it would have been an awesome trade for the Raptors as they could get their point guard (Foye apparently wowed the Raptors in workouts) and their big man.
Bruinaholic 06-28-2006, 05:14 PM It's a crapshoot as to who's gonna be left for the C's at 7, if they even keep the pick.
I've gotta work, so I won't be here to sit through the first six and speculate on who will drop...
If they can get Roy i say keep it, if not deal it for a proven player
Porn* 06-28-2006, 05:20 PM For those watching the draft, things could get veeeeery interesting if Toronto announces Morrison as the first overall pick. That would likely mean that they have a deal in place with Portland, possibly for the 4th and 7th pick.
Making that deal would ensure that at least one of Bargnani, Thomas, Gay or Aldridge are available at the 4th spot in the draft (Bargnani is a definite possibility as I would see Morrison going first, Aldridge second and Gay third in that scenario). This would be an absolute steal for Toronto if Colangelo can make it happen.
*prays*
i'd give the 1st for 4th and 7th instantly... hopefully it doesn't invovled CV3 as well :shakehead:
Lessy 06-28-2006, 05:58 PM I'd love for the 1st to be traded for #4 and #7. That would allow the Raptors (in my ideal world) to get one of Aldridge, Roy or Bargnani... who are in my mind the top 3 in the draft. Plus, they would be able to get the #7 pick who, unfortunatley they would probably take Marcus Williams from UConn although I hope not. :madfire:
Porn* 06-28-2006, 06:09 PM morrisson looks like he missed an evolutionary stage :biglaugh:
I like the #1 for #4 and #7 idea but i don't know if Portland will want to give up both
BuppY 06-28-2006, 06:24 PM 1st and soemthing for 4th and 7th might be done. We'll see if the Raps select Morrison it will most likely be for another team. I would expect them to trade Morrison later on.
Naturally, Bilas doesn't like Europeans.
Porn* 06-28-2006, 06:49 PM bargnani = raptors :yo:
hopefully he's developed into a PF/C
I hate how the NBA draft is run. Half the night is spent on drafting guys someone else wants. It's really not fair to the players for other teams to pick them and then make them switch hats.
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: at the Knicks again!
The guys on ESPN are TEARING this pick apart.
Fire Sather 06-28-2006, 08:42 PM Knicks man oh man it gets worse and worse. :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: at the Knicks again!
The guys on ESPN are TEARING this pick apart.
The same guys that ripped the raps for drafting CV. Grain of salt.
romba 06-28-2006, 09:35 PM :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: at the Knicks again!
The guys on ESPN are TEARING this pick apart.
Atta boy Knickerbockers! Woohoo!
More fodder for the fire! Can't wait to listen to the talk radio tonight.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 06-28-2006, 09:52 PM Well, nice pick by the Raps with Bargnani. He should be a gooder. Also, it seems like although they could've gotten him as low as 4 or 5, the offer wasn't there, so nice move by BC.
Also, I love the Maurice Ager selection by Dallas. I can really see him develop into a decent player for the Mavs.
Draft Guru 06-28-2006, 09:55 PM To think at one time I rooted for the Knicks... :biglaugh:
Enoch 06-28-2006, 10:09 PM I have heard that the Grizzlies swap with Houston includes Stromile Swift breaking down something like this:
To Memphis:
Rudy Gay
Stromile Swift
To Houston:
Shane Battier
Am I missing something or did Houston not just get fleeced in this deal, and yes....I do know that Swift is a lazy, injury prone player...but still...Battier is nothing more than a solid defensive role player.
DevilFisch 06-28-2006, 10:14 PM Amazingly, Portland's unnecessary trades were just as funny as the Renaldo Balkman and Mardy Collins picks.
David Stern's reactions to the trades were gold.
ASIDE: I thought it was just Rudy Gay straight up for Battier? Even if Memphis gets stuck with Swift, I think Jerry West still fleeced the Rockets.
ASIDE #2: Marcus Williams dropping all the way to the Nets? AWESOME! Maybe he'll be Kidd's eventual replacement...
Fire Sather 06-28-2006, 10:36 PM Jeff Halpern's brother NBA bound?
Bruinaholic 06-28-2006, 10:43 PM I have heard that the Grizzlies swap with Houston includes Stromile Swift breaking down something like this:
To Memphis:
Rudy Gay
Stromile Swift
To Houston:
Shane Battier
Am I missing something or did Houston not just get fleeced in this deal, and yes....I do know that Swift is a lazy, injury prone player...but still...Battier is nothing more than a solid defensive role player.
wow wth is Houston thinking.....steal by Memphis :amazed:
Also i think the Celtics stole Rajon Rondo...the guy by alot of reports is the best PG in the draft and if he can develope a better jump shot then the sky is the limit
I think the Celts are gonna deal Telfair-Szerbiak and a 1st rd pick in a trade for Iverson
Biggsy 06-28-2006, 11:47 PM Who is this guy the Raptors drafted
You can sell draft picks for straight up cash? Man the NBA sucks. Just a casual follower come playoff time for the Suns. paper reported they were going to sell their picks for 3 million each but apparently drafted?
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 06-29-2006, 03:48 AM Some people are in love with the NBA draft, but I find it to be a complete joke. Like gkj mentioned, half the teams are picking for other teams, so alot of guys don't even get to wear the hat of the team they'll start the next season with. Why not just allow picks to be dealt so the team that wants that certain guy can draft him.
Also, what in the hell went on with Foye and Roy? I think it was Minny that picked Roy, then Boston picked Foye, dealt him to Portland in the Telfair deal, and even though those two picks were right behind each other, they swap the two kids right after. I could understand if Portland was sending some cash or something Minny's way, like the VC-Jamison deal, but from what I've seen so far, it's just a straight up trade of the two. If it's just the two guards being dealt, what in the hell went on?
The same guys that ripped the raps for drafting CV. Grain of salt.
CV wasn't a 2nd round talent. CV was going to be drafted in the 1st round in his draft. The Knicks might not have even had to draft this guy.
Very suprised to see Allan Ray not drafted. I expect the Sixers to bring him and Stephen Smith into their summer league
NassauIsles82* 06-29-2006, 08:35 AM Nets>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everyone Else...Except>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Knicks
Vic Rattlehead* 06-29-2006, 08:42 AM NBA draft is pure insanity. I agree with GKJ, the draft experience for these kids are ruined by the fact that they are immediately dealt to another team once draft.
The NBA draft is akin to a circus act. Pure chaos.
Jaysfanatic* 06-29-2006, 10:03 AM I can't believe Marcus Williams fell and then he went to the Nets, horrifying.
Ronnie Bass 06-29-2006, 11:40 AM I can't believe Marcus Williams fell and then he went to the Nets, horrifying.
And not to mention they were able to draft Williams UConn teammate Josh Boone - who I think is built to play in the NBA - right after that and then Hassan Adams in the 2nd, what a great job by Thorn and Company.
:clap:
Voice of Reason 06-29-2006, 11:44 AM The Nets kicked everyone's tush last night.
Williams should learn a great deal from Kidd, Boone can rebound and spell Jefferson the other big men and Adams is a nice little player.
They got the depth they needed at the positions they needed it.
OK, so I'm a Nets fan. ;)
Brad Tolliver 06-29-2006, 11:45 AM Damn, I was hoping JJ Redick would fall to the Knicks.
NassauIsles82* 06-29-2006, 01:09 PM Rudy Gay and Stromile Swift went to the Grizzlies for Shane Battier. That's worse than an Isiah move.
Jaysfanatic* 06-29-2006, 02:33 PM And not to mention they were able to draft Williams UConn teammate Josh Boone - who I think is built to play in the NBA - right after that and then Hassan Adams in the 2nd, what a great job by Thorn and Company.
:clap:
Yeah Im not happy, not one bit. **** the Nets and Vince, he single handedly made me hate that team after I didn't mind them. Now the only person associated with the Nets I can stand is Jay-Z
Teemu 07-03-2006, 03:54 PM I hate how the NBA draft is run. Half the night is spent on drafting guys someone else wants. It's really not fair to the players for other teams to pick them and then make them switch hats.
They get a free hat out of it. It's not all bad.
But I agree. Just let the teams trade pick numbers on draft day.
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