Habs sign Samsonov

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171141&hubname=nhl


:eek:

the traitor !!:madfire: :madfire:

Oh geez... he sunk to an all-time low. I hope they overpaid out the ***.

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:eek:

I actually had an odd feeling a week ago that he'd end up there. I'm not worried though, our D is mobile. He'll tool Hal when they play Toronto though.

haha hows everyone feel about him now? I can't wait to watch Chara crush him into the boards and knock him out for the season with a broken pinky toe.

I just puked. Any :shakehead team but the Habs. Best of luck to him but the Habs!????:shakehead

V

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:eek:

Their forward corp is deeper and much better today than it was yesterday. Very good day for Gainey.

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:deadhorse :banghead: :eek:

it's only 2 years:banghead:

I used to like Samsonov alot, but there's no way I can root for him on that team. Think he'll take acting lessons from Ribeiro?

the traitor !!:madfire: :madfire:

Your calling HIM a traitor????

After the Bruins TRADED HIM???

Just unbelievable.

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SELLOUT!

You're dead to me, Sammy.

What are these habs trying to do? Build a team of the softest players in the NHL? :shakehead I hope he doesnt kill us 8 times a year!

I used to like Samsonov alot, but there's no way I can root for him on that team. Think he'll take acting lessons from Ribeiro?

Samsonov likes to fall down on his own. His upper body moves to fast for his lower body. :biglaugh:

the hatred runs real deep around here...

Definitly a twist in the fabric of Bruin Land with this one...

Samsonov fits the Montreal Canadien style very well.

Good pick up for the Habs - Bad news for us.


HOPEFULLY Sammy doesnt sting us too much..

I am sure you all know how to address him properly when he comes to Boston to play? :D

I am sure you all know how to address him properly when he comes to Boston to play? :D

Boo him til I'm hoarse in the throat every time he touches the puck.

I wish Jim Ross would take over for Dale for one day.

"What? NO! BAH GAWD! NOT LIKE THIS! NO! .........Dammit!"

I always hated myself for liking Samsonov and Thornton alot when they were on the Bruins. Ha, I don't feel so bad now.

I wish Jim Ross would take over for Dale for one day.

"What? NO! BAH GAWD! NOT LIKE THIS! NO! .........Dammit!"

:biglaugh:

:madfire: Screw you Sammy

but seriously this kinda stinks. He's got good skills and if his healthy, it wont be fun watching him on the Habs.

Boo him til I'm hoarse in the throat every time he touches the puck.


Boo is definitly acceptable,

As is any other curse you have for the Mache Muscovite..

As in Paper Mache (I hope that how you spell it..lol)

:banghead:
My brother is a Habs fan too.....I wont hear the end of this!!

:banghead:
My brother is a Habs fan too.....I wont hear the end of this!!

Poison his food.. That usually ends all conversations :)

Samsonov tries to dance around the defense.. and the Canadiens are offsides..

The only thing worse than that would be seeing Thornton in a Habs jersey!

Disgusting!

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:eek:

That's great, he and Kovalev can rehab from their injuries together. :sarcasm:

:bow: I wish Jim Ross would take over for Dale for one day.

"What? NO! BAH GAWD! NOT LIKE THIS! NO! .........Dammit!"

I could hear his next line, as his voice goes hoarse.

"Why Sammy? Why? Dammit tell me why?"

Seriously though, I'm shocked.

:bow:

I could hear his next line, as his voice goes hoarse.

"Why Sammy? Why? Dammit tell me why?"

Seriously though, I'm shocked.
JR:"HAS HE NO SAWL, KIIING?"

King:"Look at those Ice Girls! PUPPIES!"

The only thing worse than that would be seeing Thornton in a Habs jersey!

Disgusting!
I wouldn't mind that, we'd actually beat them in the playoffs then.

JR:"HAS HE NO SAWL, KIIING?"

King:"Look at those Ice Girls! PUPPIES!"
JR: DAMMIT TO HELL KING I DONT CARE ABOUT SOME JEZZABELL SAMSONOV HAS JUST SIGNED WITH THE ENEMY BUHGAWD THIS MAKES ME SICK!

Who cares really....let's just hope he doesnt finally live up to his potential.

Makes sense joining the rest of the smurfs

He'd better get the Johnny Damon reception when he comes back to the Garden in october.

Good luck Sammy. Just wish it wasn't with the Habs though.

I hate to see Sammy go to the Habs, but he does fit the height maximum there. Wish he went elsewhere, but hopefully for his sake he got a good contract. Games against some of the division rivals will be even more interesting this year.

Sergei Samsonov has gone over to the Dark Side, he is now forever dead as a Bruin
:madfire:

Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

that lines good, but its also has the possibility of getting thrown around.

Sammy goes to the only team in hockey where he could step in and make them a bigger and tougher team:sarcasm:

I really liked Sammy for most of his time here, I still have my 14 jersey, and it is the only one I have, but honestly I am glad he signed somewhere other than Boston

Good for Samsonov. Best of luck with Montreal.

Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

that lines good, but its also has the possibility of getting thrown around.
It's a sad thing when a line's most durable forward is Mike Ribeiro.

Sammy would be better off on Koivu's line, if I were coaching the Habs. But I'd kill myself before that ever happened.

What I think is even funnier is that the habs traded Zednik to the Caps for a 3rd round pick. So I putting the two together doesn't really make them much better IMO. Sammy can be a great goal scorer, when he wants to play. He has had that tag his whole career, see him all over the ice for a shift, takes the next 4 off.

Good luck Sammy, didn't see this coming, but good luck

Now that that is out of the way, go get him boys.....

Wow...

Playing Samsonov, Gill, and Raycroft eight times a year? Divisional games just got more interesting.

Samsonov's style fits the Habs perfectly though.

Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

that lines good, but its also has the possibility of getting thrown around.

Kovi is alot tougher than people give him credit for, but I do not see him and Kovi making good linemates. Both carry the puck quite a bit, i think 1 would suffer when playing together


Samsonov Koivu Ryder
Johnson Ribiero Kovalev

What's with the enemy getting X bruin players?

Raycroft
Gill
Samsonov



Then again...we took Chara! More Glen Murray. Maybe buffalo will take ya.

Why is this a bad thing? Don't we want our old playoff no-shows heading to Montreal? In fact, we should encourage them to pick up more of our cast aways. This could be the secret to finally beating the Habs in the playoffs!

He'd better get the Johnny Damon reception when he comes back to the Garden in october.

I don't see why that should happen. Sammy was traded by the B's and they made no move to get him back this summer, at least not that I've heard. With Damon it was all about the money, not surprisingly.

Why is this a bad thing? Don't we want our old playoff no-shows heading to Montreal? In fact, we should encourage them to pick up more of our cast aways. This could be the secret to finally beating the Habs in the playoffs!

True. Who knows, maybe the Sabres will add Fitzgerald or Green?

Still haven't seen anything posted for a salary for Sammy, how much really determines the value of the move.

Good luck to Sammy. Part of me wanted him back. Parted of me felt it was time to move on. He's going to replace Zednik on the top line with Koivu and Kovalev. No doubt he'll have a terrific season (barring injury). It's going to be heart-wrenching to see him in a Habs uniform, but that's the way of the new NHL. There are x-Bruins everywhere, but Sammy will always be one of the most difficult to see in another uniform.:cry:

Why is this a bad thing? Don't we want our old playoff no-shows heading to Montreal? In fact, we should encourage them to pick up more of our cast aways. This could be the secret to finally beating the Habs in the playoffs!
Sammy was one of the three players(along with Bergy and Marty) to show up that playoff.

He makes perfect sense for them, and he fits their style of play to a T. I'm surprised no one predicted this.

Good luck to him. I hope he scores a hat trick every game and that they are all 4-3 losses.

Still haven't seen anything posted for a salary for Sammy, how much really determines the value of the move.

might not be release until tomorrow.....

perhaps one of our esteemed journalist friends would know???:dunno:

I don't see why that should happen. Sammy was traded by the B's and they made no move to get him back this summer, at least not that I've heard. With Damon it was all about the money, not surprisingly.

I'm still gonna boo him til I can't breathe... never was a big fan when he was here.. and now I have all the reason in the world to despise him.

it's only 2 years:banghead:

Mike and Sammy watch out guys. Sammy will be eating rubber all night, he better have his skating legs tuned. I think this is a perfect fit for the two.:dunno:

Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

that lines good, but its also has the possibility of getting thrown around.

Who will shoot and what the other two will do when the 3rd one cough the puck? Besides Kovalev who loves to create his shot from the board, Sammy and Ribeiro are not known shooters. This line has skills. No doubt. But that won't translate to the scoresheet IMO. Theres some things lacking...

Will sure make those Bruins-Habs even more fun to watch.

Go Chara Go!

Kovi is alot tougher than people give him credit for, but I do not see him and Kovi making good linemates. Both carry the puck quite a bit, i think 1 would suffer when playing together


Samsonov Koivu Ryder
Johnson Ribiero Kovalev


Good call... Sammy is like an undersized version of Kovalev, but a couple of notches down in talent as well.

Higgins - Koivu - Kovalev
Sammy - Ribeiro - Ryder


... is how I see their top 6 taking shape. They need a new #2 centerman as desperately as we need a #2 left winger (save Kessel, of course). Good thing for us they didn't land Arnott as was being speculated.

Two year deal... my guess is it's a $7.4M contract. Short term... not quite the money he wanted but he gets another stab at free agency in 2 years where he's hoping to get that $4M+ long-term deal.


- Ron

Why is this a bad thing? Don't we want our old playoff no-shows heading to Montreal? In fact, we should encourage them to pick up more of our cast aways. This could be the secret to finally beating the Habs in the playoffs!


I think Sammy showed this past postseason what he can do in the playoffs with a team that actually plays together in the postseason.

He was very good throughout the postseason for Edmonton. That kid did things that he didnt do in Boston...funny how that happens with a lot of guys who leave.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment.

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Still haven't seen anything posted for a salary for Sammy, how much really determines the value of the move.

I guess he got 8.25M/2years.

I still take our roster over theirs any day.

Who will shoot and what the other two will do when the 3rd one cough the puck? Besides Kovalev who loves to create his shot from the board, Sammy and Ribeiro are not known shooters. This line has skills. No doubt. But that won't translate to the scoresheet IMO. Theres some things lacking...

Will sure make those Bruins-Habs even more fun to watch.

Go Chara Go!

Bergeron-Boyes and Sturm.

Sturm was the only one of that trio who anyone pegged as a goalscorer...and yet all of them had 20 plus goals.

No doubts whatsoever that if Kovi-Ribiero and Sammy play togther, only health issues will keep that from being a 75-100 goal scoring line.

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Bergeron-Boyes and Sturm.

Sturm was the only one of that trio who anyone pegged as a goalscorer...and yet all of them had 20 plus goals.

No doubts whatsoever that if Kovi-Ribiero and Sammy play togther, only health issues will keep that from being a 75-100 goal scoring line.

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Bergeron was definitely considered a legit goalscorer.

I guess he got 8.25M/2years.

Hmmm... I predict $7.4M but Gainey was desperate to make his move... I wouldn't be surprised if you're right about this. Perhaps Gainey just felt so pressured to make a deal that he offered a contract he couldn't refuse. He may not have wanted to signed in Montreal but they may have been offering a more lucrative deal than the next guy... :dunno: I'm trying to rationalize this :p:

Either way, I'll have to keep my eyes open for him in Montreal now.


- Ron

I am sure Boston will really show up for Sammy's return! That's the good news!

Good call... Sammy is like an undersized version of Kovalev, but a couple of notches down in talent as well.

Higgins - Koivu - Kovalev
Sammy - Ribeiro - Ryder


... is how I see their top 6 taking shape. They need a new #2 centerman as desperately as we need a #2 left winger (save Kessel, of course). Good thing for us they didn't land Arnott as was being speculated.

Two year deal... my guess is it's a $7.4M contract. Short term... not quite the money he wanted but he gets another stab at free agency in 2 years where he's hoping to get that $4M+ long-term deal.


- Ron

I still take our:

Sturm-Bergy-Boyes
Mr X (Kessel?)-Savard-Murray

Than their:

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

Any day. Plenty of reasons. Want to know? :D

I still take our:

Sturm-Bergy-Boyes
Mr X (Kessel?)-Savard-Murray

Than their:

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

Any day. Plenty of reasons. Want to know? :D

I agree...but yeah i do want to know cause it feels good to hear it!

Bergeron-Boyes and Sturm.

Sturm was the only one of that trio who anyone pegged as a goalscorer...and yet all of them had 20 plus goals.

No doubts whatsoever that if Kovi-Ribiero and Sammy play togther, only health issues will keep that from being a 75-100 goal scoring line.

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Which was a surprise to most considering Boyes was a rookie, Bergeron kept coming on after surprising everyone and Sturm had a career year.

You'd be the first one to jump on anyone who said those three would have 20+ goals each at this time last year.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment. Later

I feel for you Jeff ...

If I were you I would change the team long time ago... What is a point of suffering? :dunno:


As for Samsonov , I used to like him alot, but somehow I am not sorry to see him go, even to the Habs, although I woul've liked if he could be signed by any other team.

As for the Habs, Sergej doesn't solve their needs - big center and D.

I think Sammy showed this past postseason what he can do in the playoffs with a team that actually plays together in the postseason.

He was very good throughout the postseason for Edmonton. That kid did things that he didnt do in Boston...funny how that happens with a lot of guys who leave.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment.

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well, hopefully the environment is changing and the dismissal of talent players stops happening.

Kovi is alot tougher than people give him credit for, but I do not see him and Kovi making good linemates. Both carry the puck quite a bit, i think 1 would suffer when playing together


Samsonov Koivu Ryder
Johnson Ribiero Kovalev

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :banghead:

I think Sammy showed this past postseason what he can do in the playoffs with a team that actually plays together in the postseason.

He was very good throughout the postseason for Edmonton. That kid did things that he didnt do in Boston...funny how that happens with a lot of guys who leave.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment.

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Same could be said for Stuart and Sturm and the environment in San Jose vs. Boston.

Keep stirring the pot Jeff.

Bergeron was definitely considered a legit goalscorer.

Based on what? The 16 goal rookie season?

Or his CAREER HIGH of 23 goals in junior?

Sorry, but he was FAR from a sure bet to be a goalscorer. He always had POTENTIAL to be a 25-30 goal man. But he was far from being considered a legit goalscorer.

He had never proven that he could be. Bruins fans HOPED he would be. But thats far different from having proven to be a legit goalscorer.

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Bergeron-Boyes and Sturm.

Sturm was the only one of that trio who anyone pegged as a goalscorer...and yet all of them had 20 plus goals.

No doubts whatsoever that if Kovi-Ribiero and Sammy play togther, only health issues will keep that from being a 75-100 goal scoring line.

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Maybe that concern was raised about Bergeron-Sturm-Boyes. That that may only be because those people only knew really much about them. Bergeron really likes to shoot, Boyes has a wick wrist shot and Sturm likes to crash the net, be fast and score opportunic goals.

Jeff, you saw Sammy like me all those years. You're even one who claim he is not shooting enough and over-passing. Sammy has skills but like we watched first hand all those years, he can do much more.

Ribeiro has a weak shot and rather like to pass.

Kovalev is the only one with the goalscorer mentality on that line. But he also tend to try to make individual plays nulliting the utility of his teamates.

Bruins trio outscored those three last year.

No doubt that they'll do the same next year. Younger and better.

I still take our:

Sturm-Bergy-Boyes
Mr X (Kessel?)-Savard-Murray

Than their:

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

Any day. Plenty of reasons. Want to know? :D


Nick... don't think I'm going soft on the Habs :biglaugh:

I take our top 6 as well.... but damn... if we could pry Higgins from the Habs I would be in heaven.

Sturm - Bergeron - Boyes
Higgins - Savard - Kessel

:bow:


- Ron :D

Same could be said for Stuart and Sturm and the environment in San Jose vs. Boston.

Keep stirring the pot Jeff.

Impossible. They are Bruins now, which means they are overrated. Once they leave, they automatically become great players. :sarcasm:

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

He must not have gotten too many good offers to end up in Montreal. :p:

It's going to be very hard for me to dislike Samsonov. But when I see him in that sweater I will manage. Ugghh.

Your calling HIM a traitor????

After the Bruins TRADED HIM???

Just unbelievable.

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Ummm, I think that was a joke Jeff

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

Nope, you already did

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

and we are not slow anymore either!

I agree...but yeah i do want to know cause it feels good to hear it!

1) Sturm-Bergy-Boyes is the best of all those 4 lines. They outscored any other trio last year and will likely do the same next year. They are just plain better. Scary how they are young too.

2) Mr x (Kessel)-Savard-Murray is a line that could be really something. Depending of the winger, that line can be the creative scoring line that we missed the past hundred years. Despite the contract and all, Savard is a great passer and creative player who also likes to shoot. Murray has his detractors, be he can still score 35 in this league with a good passer.

3) Our top-6 is much younger, cheaper, better all-around and with undefined upside.

I could go all night...

Same could be said for Stuart and Sturm and the environment in San Jose vs. Boston.

Keep stirring the pot Jeff.

Sturm had years in SJ that were just as good as this past season. When you account for the great increase in scoring across the league last season...then realistically, Sturm did what he routinely did in SJ. Last year he had 11 more points than his previous career high, and ONE more goal. The likely reason for the increase wasnt environmental, rather it was how the game itself was played.

As for Stuart...quite similar to Sturm. His 12 goals were 2 more than his career high. And his 43 points were 4 points more than his previous highs, which were accumulated in much tighter checking and defensive years.

Rolston was utilized more effectively than he ever was as a Bruin. But he was one who benefiteed greatly from the new game. But he played more free than he ever did here. He, Nylander and Knuble should have been retained, and guys like Zhamnov, McEachern and Isbister never thought of.

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! :( :( :( :(

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

That's nice. But the Habs have no answer to Chara.

1) Sturm-Bergy-Boyes is the best of all those 4 lines. They outscored any other trio last year and will likely do the same next year. They are just plain better. Scary how they are young too.

2) Mr x (Kessel)-Savard-Murray is a line that could be really something. Depending of the winger, that line can be the creative scoring line that we missed the past hundred years. Despite the contract and all, Savard is a great passer and creative player who also likes to shoot. Murray has his detractors, be he can still score 35 in this league with a good passer.

3) Our top-6 is much younger, cheaper, better all-around and with undefined upside.

I could go all night...
Not to mention our top six has much less injury concern.

Kovy and Sammy always have something going on, Ribeiro's not exactly the toughest man on earth, and who knows if Koivu is ever going to be the same after the eye injury...

That's nice. But the Habs have no answer to Chara.

Chara has never really been a factor when he was with Ottawa against the Habs

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:eek:It adds another dimension to a storied rivalry and it should be fun to see what he can do with Kovalev.

I'll look foward to that famous dipsy dooble into center ice just before Chara cracks him accross the neck.

What are these habs trying to do? Build a team of the softest players in the NHL? :shakehead I hope he doesnt kill us 8 times a year

will just have to see now wont we........your new D man, is large and in charge sometimes, but did he really help Ottawa win a cup? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

He was a victim of the reign of Terror by Mike O'connell, I hate the habs but this isn't like Damon signing with the Yanks. Good luck to one of my favorite players, but not so much good luck

Chara has never really been a factor when he was with Ottawa against the Habs

He's not with Ottawa anymore. He's a Habs hating Bruin now. :p:

What are these habs trying to do? Build a team of the softest players in the NHL? :shakehead I hope he doesnt kill us 8 times a year

will just have to see now wont we........your new D man, is large and in charge sometimes, but did he really help Ottawa win a cup? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Chara wasn't the only reason the Sens didn't even make it to the Eastern Conf finals.

I still think the Johnson team makes them a better team a lot more then the Sammy deal does.

Maybe that concern was raised about Bergeron-Sturm-Boyes. That that may only be because those people only knew really much about them. Bergeron really likes to shoot, Boyes has a wick wrist shot and Sturm likes to crash the net, be fast and score opportunic goals.

Jeff, you saw Sammy like me all those years. You're even one who claim he is not shooting enough and over-passing. Sammy has skills but like we watched first hand all those years, he can do much more.

Ribeiro has a weak shot and rather like to pass.

Kovalev is the only one with the goalscorer mentality on that line. But he also tend to try to make individual plays nulliting the utility of his teamates.

Bruins trio outscored those three last year.

No doubt that they'll do the same next year. Younger and better.

And you were one, just like many of us, who when Sammy was a Bruin was HYPING him to the moon as a potential 30 goal and 85 point guy. Now that he is gone, he doesnt have that potential anymore?

I`m not saying that he does. But what he is, when healthy is a 25-29/30 goal guy who can put up 70 points playing with quality players.

And what is that? Its the same as Boyes...its BETTER than Sturm and any other forward we have, other than Bergeron.

The only forwards we have who can match Sammys production are Bergeron and Boyes! Savard MIGHT have an outside chane at it, if he produces for the first time without having elite wings next to him this season.

Productionwise, Sammy could be a first line player in Boston.

Barring injury, Kovalev is as good offensively as any forward the Bruins have. He was just under a point a game last season...almost identical points per game as Bergeron.

Even Ribeiro, who I dont care for as a player, is easly as good offensively as Sturm.

Ryder is unquestonably better than Sturm.

They have 4 guys who could be 1st liners here....pretty much just like we do.

I like our guys better than theirs, but I can objectively say that the difference offensively, if any, is slim, slim, slim at best.

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Chara has never really been a factor when he was with Ottawa against the Habs

He deked out Souray. :(

He's not with Ottawa anymore. He's a Habs hating Bruin now. :p:

Oh it changes everything then :dunce:

Sturm had years in SJ that were just as good as this past season. When you account for the great increase in scoring across the league last season...then realistically, Sturm did what he routinely did in SJ. Last year he had 11 more points than his previous career high, and ONE more goal. The likely reason for the increase wasnt environmental, rather it was how the game itself was played.

As for Stuart...quite similar to Sturm. His 12 goals were 2 more than his career high. And his 43 points were 4 points more than his previous highs, which were accumulated in much tighter checking and defensive years.

Rolston was utilized more effectively than he ever was as a Bruin. But he was one who benefiteed greatly from the new game. But he played more free than he ever did here. He, Nylander and Knuble should have been retained, and guys like Zhamnov, McEachern and Isbister never thought of.

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San Jose waited years for Stuart to play like he did in Boston, to be the calming anchor of their defense and to show the leadership they pressed him for. And if a career year for Sturm could be attributed to the change in the game last year, then the same could be said for all those former bruins you're so high on.

FWIW it seems as though you, me and MOC agree that Nylander, Knuble and (though I always dispised him) Rolston should have been retained. If not for the ?CBA and JJ's nervous hopes the three would have had, at least, a competitive offer to stick around.

I still take our roster over theirs any day.

And we will take ours anyday. Good we are both happy. :dunno:

I wish Jim Ross would take over for Dale for one day.

"What? NO! BAH GAWD! NOT LIKE THIS! NO! .........Dammit!"


Even though I'm pretty sure that a lot of people here won't get this - I thought it was funny as hell. :bow:

Chara has never really been a factor when he was with Ottawa against the Habs


True, to give B's fans an idea of how Chara did against the Habs, 2 words sums it up.....Hal Gill.

I think Sammy showed this past postseason what he can do in the playoffs with a team that actually plays together in the postseason.

He was very good throughout the postseason for Edmonton. That kid did things that he didnt do in Boston...funny how that happens with a lot of guys who leave.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment.

Later

I don't really get what you're saying there Jeff? :confused:

Are you saying that the players mentionned have done better elsewhere since they leaved the Bruins? And that maybe it was the environnement?

1) Thornton done what better since leaving the Bruins? He got the trophy? Sure. But he produced at the SAME ppg number in Boston and in SJ. Had he stayed in Boston all years, he would have ended with the same number of points if he had maintained that pace. And in the playoff, he sure was the same "no show perimeter" Joe we learned to know.

2) Knuble had one great years in Phily. But the Bruins putted him in the spotlight and he had great years with the Bruins. Was it the environnement too?

3) Sure Rolston scored points last year. He better had. He had top-line minutes. You have to produce. Doesn't hurt to play with Gaborik. It change from Lapointe. Role change, point total change. He got good/great years playing 3rd line and scoring zillion of SH goals. Was it the environnement?

4) Samsonov has not played much elsewhere. Has he already got the desintox from the bad environnement? Sure wasn't his 1pts in the last 10 Oilers playoffs games that makes you tell that... I've always thought Samsonov would explode one time and i've been wrong all those years. Still a good hockey player. But more of the type you have to surround as opposed to be the core.

I don't know Jeff? Those guys have not done much elsewhere that they didn't do here. Its even more often the opposite. Players come here and have their best years (Examples: Rolston, Knuble, Sturm, B.Stuart...:p: ) That environnement i know. The one you're talking tough...

My first reaction was :eek:

Then I passed the news along to my ma, having her guess where he signed because it's fun as hell.

Me: Guess where Samsonov signed.
Ma: Detroit?
Me: No, worse.
Ma: A Canadian team?
Me: Yeah.
Ma: Don't tell me.... Toronto.
Me: Nope.
Ma: *pauses* Not Montreal.
Me: :D
Ma: Noooooooooo!

:biglaugh:

will just have to see now wont we........your new D man, is large and in charge sometimes, but did he really help Ottawa win a cup? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


Chara helped Ottawa win the same number of Cups that Sammy did for Boston. :shakehead

Chara helped Ottawa win the same number of Cups that Sammy did for Boston. :shakehead
Or the entire current Hab roster.

Oh it changes everything then :dunce:

:biglaugh:

Amazing, I find myself not caring. :dunno:

Sturm had years in SJ that were just as good as this past season. When you account for the great increase in scoring across the league last season...then realistically, Sturm did what he routinely did in SJ. Last year he had 11 more points than his previous career high, and ONE more goal. The likely reason for the increase wasnt environmental, rather it was how the game itself was played.

And that doesn't apply for Rolston and Knuble? And unlike Thornton who got the exact same ppg number in Boston and in SJ, Sturm actually IMPROVED his scoring playing in Boston.


As for Stuart...quite similar to Sturm. His 12 goals were 2 more than his career high. And his 43 points were 4 points more than his previous highs, which were accumulated in much tighter checking and defensive years.

Slice it the way you want, Stuart had a career year, played well and will be even better next year playing in his spot as a great #2.

Rolston was utilized more effectively than he ever was as a Bruin. But he was one who benefiteed greatly from the new game. But he played more free than he ever did here. He, Nylander and Knuble should have been retained, and guys like Zhamnov, McEachern and Isbister never thought of.

Later

He certainly played more offensive minutes. He also did well in his first years as a 3rd line center scoring 30+ and many SH goals.

As for the last part, THAT i agree... ;)

all habs fans wish they had chara but the bruins got him instead. just beacuse u now have sammy doesn't mean the cups going to montreal beacuse it's not. don't cry to much when the bruins beat down the habs this year.

no biggie, he never lived up to his potential in Boston, and didnt help them win anything. not he can go to montreal and help them not win anything...

all habs fans wish they had chara but the bruins got him instead. just beacuse u now have sammy doesn't mean the cups going to montreal beacuse it's not. don't cry to much when the bruins beat down the habs this year.

Wrong board? :dunno:

I never found him to be a threat to our opposition. I dont care now. Jeff from maine seems a little too eager to attack our board! Settle down man, Love you bruin friends

Later

it's not that big of a deal.
he never got thirty goals for the bruins.
but he'll get 40 with kovalev.

it's not that big of a deal.
he never got thirty goals for the bruins.
but he'll get 40 with kovalev.
That's a good one :biglaugh:

Or the entire current Hab roster.
kovalev has a cup.

kovalev has a cup.
Not with Montreal.

That's a good one :biglaugh:
what's so funny? the fact that he'll be more productive than marc savard? ;)
ohhh snap
:cheers: though
our matchups this season will be more fun to watch (if you can say that).

Not with Montreal.
we have a champ on the team. ;)

all habs fans wish they had chara but the bruins got him instead. just beacuse u now have sammy doesn't mean the cups going to montreal beacuse it's not. don't cry to much when the bruins beat down the habs this year.

... and how about 'em Expos, eh?! :biglaugh: :lol:

How you doing, bro??


- Ron

it's not that big of a deal.
he never got thirty goals for the bruins.
but he'll get 40 with kovalev.

Not a chance. But you will be driven out of your mind thinking he is snake bitten:sarcasm:

we have a champ on the team. ;)
David Tanabe led his to the Stanley Cup Finals in 2002.

He will be a non factor, as usual. Not concerned in the least.

I wish Jim Ross would take over for Dale for one day.

"What? NO! BAH GAWD! NOT LIKE THIS! NO! .........Dammit!"I wish he would take over for EVERY HOME game!!!

At least we'll get to see the Russian Whirlwind do some amazing moves against us, only to lose the puck to our D-men instead of vice-versa.


I would love to see Sammy do well. Not on the Habs, but I would love to see him do well. I wonder if he signed there just to sour the Boston grapes. I hope he tanks there and does well on his next stint.

I'll look foward to that famous dipsy dooble into center ice just before Chara cracks him accross the neck.

Only problem with that is that Chara showed in the playoffs last year that he can't catch fast skaters.

The bruins have improved themselves in the off-season..no doubt about it. I look forward seeing the Habs-Bruins games.:clap:

But in the end you're still owned by the ultimate cheap skate Jermey Jacobs... my sincerest condolences! :(

... and how about 'em Expos, eh?! :biglaugh: :lol:

How you doing, bro??


- Ron

Hey! I resent that. Leave the my Expos out of it.:(

I wish he would take over for EVERY HOME game!!!
Chara drops the gloves...and Ribeiro's runnin' like a scawlded dawg! He beat Souray like a government mule! Bah Gawd!

But in the end you're still owned by the ultimate cheap skate Jermey Jacobs... my sincerest condolences! :(

Blackhawks owner is worse, just go ask their fans

But in the end you're still owned by the ultimate cheap skate Jermey Jacobs... my sincerest condolences! :(

Chara's contract, Savard's contract, Murray's contract...Pay attention

I can't wish him the best, but I'll still remember him fondly. His injury-prone reputation is ********. He's a perfect second line LW and he'll probably put in 30 this year.

It's a shame he couldn't go to any of the 29 other teams...it had to be them.:cry:

David Tanabe led his to the Stanley Cup Finals in 2002.

lol, 'led his'
did he get a cup ring even?
:sarcasm:

The Rangers would not have bothered me but Montreal:eek: ...well, from an entertainment point of view and that is what this is, this is excellent. I guess my interest in the Habs just went up. I remain a Sammy guy and always will but Montreal:biglaugh: .....yesh. Here's hoping Sammy hits the big 3-0 finally and the Habs have a great year only to have their hearts and season taken out by the Bruins in the Conference Finals.

Hey! I resent that. Leave the my Expos out of it.:(

It's a bit of an inside joke... we were downtown Montreal after the Habs beat us in Montreal. We were out with our B's jerseys and caps and all we would hear is the usual "Bruins suck" bla bla bla...

Anyway, as a Habs fan it hurt but one effective comment to get the Habs fans to shut up was "oh yeah, and how are those Expos doing" :biglaugh: Maybe you had to be there... but it was like "oh no he did not just go there" lol


- Ron

I'll look foward to that famous dipsy dooble into center ice just before Chara cracks him accross the neck.

I hope you're joking. Samsonov, though he had some not so hot games/years here in Boston, doesn't deserve to be "cracked across the neck" by Chara or any Bruin player. Say what folks want, but he's a classy player with loads of talent- it's too bad his injuries hampered his playing ability while here in Boston, and unfortunately for him, he's very injury prone. Much as he drove me crazy with his constant turnovers and his non-stop circling around with the puck, there were nights when he played so amazing he absolutely wowed me- I just wish we saw more of that from him.

I wish Sammy well with the Habs, but man, this is just surreal. Boston did trade him, so he has the right to sign wherever he wishes, I just wish it wasn't the damn Habs!

I'm happy for Samsonov to sign anywhere.....I really enjoyed his game for the first couple of years here in Boston....I still remember watching the game where he scored his 20th in the rookie year and they played "Money" over the pa system. Sammy had just cashed a million dollar bonus with that goal! Also, he had a couple of good years in the playoffs, Washington series in 1998, and Carolina series in 1999 jump out!

However, I've found myself growing more and more frustrated over the past three years with his play and was indifferent when they traded him, and indifferent now even though he's going to Montreal! I believe the reason for my indifference is the fact that Sammy just doesn't scare me as an opposing player.....he's just not that dynamic player I thought he was going to amount to early in his career....we'll see!

Also, there is no one on any chat board who can honestly say that Chara wasn't the prise of this year's UFA crop! I was absolutely floored when I heard the news and am somewhat still in shock! I'll truly believe it when I see the big ******* on skates and wearing the spoked B in a game! That'll be sweet!

And, Savard will be fine with our team. Forget all the **** about playing with Hossa and Kovalchuck.....he had over a point per game the year before the lockout without playing with those guys! He'll be a welcome addition, if for no other reason than to take pressure off of our number one line!! And make no mistake, Bergeron anchors our number 1 line! They played incredble hockey last year in the absence of a true number two line, and hence received all of the checking attention from the opposing teams top checking lines! Bergeron is an absolute stud! I've been watching this game for over thirty years and he is a freakin' keeper! There are few players that I can relate this young man to as far what he's accomplish and his potential combined with his age! He reminds me of a Hawerchuck type player in the old Winnipeg days!!

Sorry about the long post!

Neely #8 :yo:

Samsonov is a perfect fit for the Habs system. I'm not surprised at all about this and I think he will do well in Montreal. Besides, he's already used to losing, so that shouldn't be a factor..:p: Seriously, best of luck to Sammy..and worst of luck to the Canadiens.:razz:

Sammy was one of the three players(along with Bergy and Marty) to show up that playoff.

And Nylander. :teach:
IMO, He was the best of the 2003-04 Playoff Bruins

Booooo!!!!!!

I have to be honest..Samsonov was really getting on my nerves before he got traded. He seems to fit the Habs system well and lets hope he doesnt become a bruin killer. Some posters in my house have to come down now.

that is a deal Boston could have lived with I would think in dollars and length. I guess they did not want him and it appears nobody else really did either. He is willing to take a mult year deal and can only get two years and has to play in that media oppressive place where hockey is Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins, and Celtics rolled into one. I wish him well but odd no one wanted hmi and he settles for the Habs.

Samsonov didn't come that expensive after all..

$7.05 million for 2 years.

According to Sportsnet, it's 7.05 over 2. 3.5 a year

We could've given him that :madfire:

He only got 2/7.05, thats 3.525 per. I'd have given him that.

We still need a LW, good luck finding someone of that caliber for that much or less.

that is a deal Boston could have lived with I would think in dollars and length. I guess they did not want him and it appears nobody else really did either. He is willing to take a mult year deal and can only get two years and has to play in that media oppressive place where hockey is Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins, and Celtics rolled into one. I wish him well but odd no one wanted hmi and he settles for the Habs.


Honestly, DKH, I think it's because he is so injury prone. Remember last season when he had a neurological disorder that they couldn't diagnose? I've been wondering how he's been doing with that lately- did it get worse, better, or is it gone?

we may have made a mistake not bringing him back? time will tell.

but this habs smurf thing :dunno: did anyone here watch the playoffs? i'm sure every cane player will unequivically state the habs were the toughest team they faced and if not for the koivu fluke injury, the habs could have very well ran the table.

if sammy stays healthy, he's pretty much demonstrated over the long haul that he'll pot 20-30 goals.

bottom line . . . a division rival just got stronger.

frankly, i'd have taken him back for 3.5 per year.

According to Sportsnet, it's 7.05 over 2. 3.5 a year

We could've given him that :madfire:


I still think that is high for Sammy. Max given should be no more than 3 million per season.

that is a deal Boston could have lived with I would think in dollars and length. I guess they did not want him and it appears nobody else really did either. He is willing to take a mult year deal and can only get two years and has to play in that media oppressive place where hockey is Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins, and Celtics rolled into one. I wish him well but odd no one wanted hmi and he settles for the Habs.

I'm happy for him, but he's instantly the enemy. He's been out of their plans for a while now. I'm not surprised we didn't try to re-sign him.

Samsonov didn't come that expensive after all..

$7.05 million for 2 years.

Prorated to the number of games played it's expensive.:D

According to Sportsnet, it's 7.05 over 2. 3.5 a year

We could've given him that :madfire:

Why would you want to pay Sammy anything to skate for Black and Gold?

I'm more than ready to give those minutes to a young kid or some else deserving. Chia and Gorton have a plan and clearly Sammy isn't part of it, can't say I blame the two men.

Let's remember the good times, forget the bad times, and move on from the diminutive Russian.

Thank God we only have to read HOH's "magical muscovite' reference during divisional games.

I always hated myself for liking Samsonov and Thornton alot when they were on the Bruins. Ha, I don't feel so bad now.

perhaps sammy will have a stellar career just like mats naslund when he signed with the b's:sarcasm:

Just curious, what is the money/terms? I'm too lazy and complacent to look it up. I would like to have seen Sammy here, but in retrospect I probably would have been typically annoyed by his performance. I would really love to see Samsonov excel in this league, just not on the Habs. I think the Habs fans will ultimately see the same and wonder why he is on the books. He is a Western Conference-type player. I'm surprized he isn't signed somewhere there.


Best of luck with him to you, Habs fans. If he can turn into a great player, I'll eat my hat. If not, don't tell me I told you so....

According to Sportsnet, it's 7.05 over 2. 3.5 a year

We could've given him that :madfire:

I wouldnt have given him that here.. I don't think Chia was interested. I am SOOO happy he isnt gonna be on the team next year I can't even express it. I was jumping up and down when I saw he signed with the Habs.

Just curious, what is the money/terms? I'm too lazy and complacent to look it up. I would like to have seen Sammy here, but in retrospect I probably would have been typically annoyed by his performance. I would really love to see Samsonov excel in this league, just not on the Habs. I think the Habs fans will ultimately see the same and wonder why he is on the books. He is a Western Conference-type player. I'm surprized he isn't signed somewhere there.


Best of luck with him to you, Habs fans. If he can turn into a great player, I'll eat my hat. If not, don't tell me I told you so....

2yr/7.05M$

Bergeron-Boyes and Sturm.

Sturm was the only one of that trio who anyone pegged as a goalscorer...and yet all of them had 20 plus goals.

No doubts whatsoever that if Kovi-Ribiero and Sammy play togther, only health issues will keep that from being a 75-100 goal scoring line.

Later

I presume optimism is not a word in your philosphy major vocabulary:sarcasm:

Why would you want to pay Sammy anything to skate for Black and Gold?

I'm more than ready to give those minutes to a young kid or some else deserving. Chia and Gorton have a plan and clearly Sammy isn't part of it, can't say I blame the two men.

Let's remember the good times, forget the bad times, and move on from the diminutive Russian.

Thank God we only have to read HOH's "magical muscovite' reference during divisional games.

I agree...Chi and Gorton defently have a plan. Unlike MOC, I trust them.

Sammy goes to the only team in hockey where he could step in and make them a bigger and tougher team:sarcasm:

I really liked Sammy for most of his time here, I still have my 14 jersey, and it is the only one I have, but honestly I am glad he signed somewhere other than Boston

I think its time to burn that jersey:madfire:

:eek:

Well, Sammy was my favorite player - league-wide. I always liked the way he could move with the puck when he was on - not many players can move like that. But now, I just can't see myself rooting for him in a Habs jersey. Looks like I need a new favorite player.

Geez, Sammy. Anybody but the damn Habs! It'll be interesting to see how he does there. Even though I was one of the biggest Sammy fans on this board, I'm sure as hell gonna boo as loud as I can when he comes back to town as a smurf.

Maybe I can change the letters on my Sammy jersey to "Traitor!"

I wouldnt have given him that here.. I don't think Chia was interested. I am SOOO happy he isnt gonna be on the team next year I can't even express it. I was jumping up and down when I saw he signed with the Habs.

I agree that Chia wasn't interested. I think he had no interest in re-signing Sammy just to keep the team moving in a new direction. It's pretty obvious that with the tradings of Boynton and Rayzor and letting all of our ufa's walk..not to mention letting Sully go..he wanted to start with a semi-clean slate and change the "environment" in Boston more than anything else. This seems like the right move to me given all the stuff that happened here last year.

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

Reality doesn't matter when it comes to the Habs for many B's fans. They'll always be the little Smurfs to many of us in our hearts. :)

Sure it was only a two year deal, but at this point I'd much rather extend Brad Stuart than re-sign Sammy.

Honestly I don't want him with the Bruins, he's a great talent, but Boston wasn't the right fit for him the last couple of years, IMO he fall and lost the puck by himself too often and his speed descrease by a step in every year.

My only concern is he's now a Habs. I can't hate him.......... well, maybe after 5 secondes in his new uniform it will be another story. :D

True, to give B's fans an idea of how Chara did against the Habs, 2 words sums it up.....Hal Gill.

I guess the parade route is being planned:sarcasm:

Samsanov had 23 goals last year and 30 assists.
3.5 million for a 50 point player, that doesn't bring much else to the game ?
A lot of razzle dazzle for sure, but apparently that isn't equating to points.

Sure he could break out and have a great year, but he hasn't yet in 8 years.

Maybe it was his linemates in Boston.
But he didn't exactly light the lamp in the playoffs with Edm.
From TSN "He added four goals and 11 assists in 24 playoff games during the Oilers run to the Stanley Cup finals. " While respectable, nothing overly impressive.

I don't agree that he is injury prone. He played 73 games last year, and I know
many here seemed to think he was out 1/2 the year.

Awesome Thread. :)

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=171141&hubname=nhl


:eek:

:soap: I didn't want Sammy to return to Boston but I certainly didn't want him in Montreal either. I'm really surprised he didn't stay out west.

wow...certainly not what i expected to see when i got home. i saw the zednik trade on a TV at the bar i was at, and thought "well, gainey moved zednik for a pick, and will probably sign someone like sykora to fill his spot"...then i had a terribly unsettling thought that samsonov could fill that spot too. i hate those feelings.

say it ain't so, sammy! i just may have to burn that jersey after all :cry:

Nick... don't think I'm going soft on the Habs :biglaugh:

I take our top 6 as well.... but damn... if we could pry Higgins from the Habs I would be in heaven.

Sturm - Bergeron - Boyes
Higgins - Savard - Kessel

:bow:


- Ron :D
That would... that'd... ugh.... I couldn't... I'd....... ECK!
Haha geezus thanks for that horrible picture. :madfire:


Lookin' forward to the season boys 'n girls. :cheers:

According to Sportsnet, it's 7.05 over 2. 3.5 a year

We could've given him that :madfire:

but he was a buddy of "you know who"
glad he didn't come back - new fresh faces are good right now for this franchise
besides, we have Wacy Rabbit;)

[QUOTE=neelynugs;6008105.

say it ain't so, sammy! i just may have to burn that jersey after all :cry:[/QUOTE]

burn it and piss on the ashes.

Poison his food.. That usually ends all conversations :)

I did that when the Habs beat the Bruins opening night...he got to stay home, and he had the TV remote the next 3days. Couldnt watch TV :biglaugh:

Absolutely ridiculous...

Wow, the stupidity of Boston fans really shows tonight.
Samsonov did have a bad year last season, but for crying out loud, Travis Green, Josh Langfeld, and Wayne Primeau were his centers! He was playing with 4th line players the entire season! But what really kills me here....even though the aforementioned, he was in the top 3 in points through the first half of the season?!...

Sergei Samsonov is one of the most talented and exciting wingers in the game today. He will surely get his revenge for getting pushed to the curb by Bruins management.

Montreal's top 2 lines are surely better than ours, simply becasue we don't have a true second line winger. There is no debate:

Higgins Koivu Ryder
Samsonov Ribeiro Kovalev

is better than

Bergeron Boyes Sturm
Axelsson Savard Murray

Their second line destroys ours, especially in the new NHL.....I really can't believe what I'm reading here?

another negative to the samsonov deal is that annoying habs fans will infiltrate this board for days, weeks, months, or dare i say, years. this is a dark day for us boys and girls.

ps - i never thought a high-level player would ever go from boston to montreal, or vice versa. you'd think that 9 years of hating the habs would sink in.

Seems like a pretty good deal for MTL, I'm honestly surprised Samsonov couldn't do better on the open market. He did seem to have lost a bit of quickness last season, maybe that was headaches or lockout fatigue or just the depressing Bruins atmosphere.

I don't feel the least bit betrayed when this sort of thing happens. Unrestricted is an awfully descriptive word when you think about it, eh? Hope Samsonov finds that elusive 30th goal. Preferrably, 17 of them will come against Toronto and the rest against the Sens. ;)

You guys gotta read this thread! It's like they got Mike Bossy in his prime.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=270530

I especially like the post:

"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


were goona mow down the entire nhl"

AND

"I'm shaking right now. I can't believe it."

Now that's high comedy!;)

Higgins Koivu Ryder
Samsonov Ribeiro Kovalev

is better than

Bergeron Boyes Sturm
Axelsson Savard Murray

Their second line destroys ours, especially in the new NHL.....I really can't believe what I'm reading here?

Montreal top 6 is more proven, I give them that.
However I'm pretty sure Chia and company will have a better 2nd line winger then Axelsson...and Im not knocking PJ as well.

another negative to the samsonov deal is that annoying habs fans will infiltrate this board for days, weeks, months, or dare i say, years. this is a dark day for us boys and girls.

ps - i never thought a high-level player would ever go from boston to montreal, or vice versa. you'd think that 9 years of hating the habs would sink in.

This is Montreal's payback for us stealing Weinrich from there a few years back :biglaugh:

It is amusing how when one of the B's players is traded or signs with another team, some folks come here and ask some questions (usually polite) and they get answered (usually politely). But Sammy signs with the Habs many of their fans that post here are obnoxious, defensive, or downright delusional. :biglaugh:

Anyway, it just hit me that sadly this must mean we'll never again see Nugs' Sammy sniffles avatar wearing his little bitty B's PJs. :(

Reminds me of whne Moog went to play for the Habs :D

Absolutely ridiculous...

Wow, the stupidity of Boston fans really shows tonight.
Samsonov did have a bad year last season, but for crying out loud, Travis Green, Josh Langfeld, and Wayne Primeau were his centers! He was playing with 4th line players the entire season! But what really kills me here....even though the aforementioned, he was in the top 3 in points through the first half of the season?!...

Sergei Samsonov is one of the most talented and exciting wingers in the game today. He will surely get his revenge for getting pushed to the curb by Bruins management.

Montreal's top 2 lines are surely better than ours, simply becasue we don't have a true second line winger. There is no debate:

Higgins Koivu Ryder
Samsonov Ribeiro Kovalev

is better than

Bergeron Boyes Sturm
Axelsson Savard Murray

Their second line destroys ours, especially in the new NHL.....I really can't believe what I'm reading here?
Where the hell do you get Axelsson on the 2nd line?!?!?!?

It's either Kessel or an outside player there.

Axelsson is going to anchor the Ax-Primeau-Donovan line that's going to completely shut down the Habs' top line.

You guys gotta read this thread! It's like they got Mike Bossy in his prime.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=270530

I especially like the post:

"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


were goona mow down the entire nhl"

AND

"I'm shaking right now. I can't believe it."

Now that's high comedy!;)

some hab fans are saying they crapped their drawers after hearing this:biglaugh:
good luck sammy
I liked you alot.......before you joined the HABS:banghead:

Montreal top 6 is more proven, I give them that.
However I'm pretty sure Chia and company will have a better 2nd line winger then Axelsson...and Im not knocking PJ as well.

Who is left? Carter? We will still be very week up front.

Samsonov-Ribeiro-Kovalev

that lines good, but its also has the possibility of getting thrown around.


Or appearing to...;)

Where the hell do you get Axelsson on the 2nd line?!?!?!?

It's either Kessel or an outside player there.

Axelsson is going to anchor the Ax-Primeau-Donovan line that's going to completely shut down the Habs' top line.

you're banking on an 18 year old having a very productive year as a second line winger his rookie season. Not a very good risk IMO.

Well, I was only 200K over per year on my guesstimate for Sammy's new deal... either way, I too am surprised he couldn't fetch a bit more on the open market.


- Ron

Anyway, it just hit me that sadly this must mean we'll never again see Nugs' Sammy sniffles avatar wearing his little bitty B's PJs. :(

Nugs will bring that avatar back for the Bos-Habs games, right, Nugs? :biglaugh:

How many games does Sammy play against Boston this year? :D

Absolutely ridiculous...

Wow, the stupidity of Boston fans really shows tonight.
Samsonov did have a bad year last season, but for crying out loud, Travis Green, Josh Langfeld, and Wayne Primeau were his centers! He was playing with 4th line players the entire season! But what really kills me here....even though the aforementioned, he was in the top 3 in points through the first half of the season?!...


Oh thank you ,Habs fan, for coming here to teach us....:sarcasm:

One bad year... :biglaugh:

Absolutely ridiculous...

Wow, the stupidity of Boston fans really shows tonight.
Samsonov did have a bad year last season, but for crying out loud, Travis Green, Josh Langfeld, and Wayne Primeau were his centers! He was playing with 4th line players the entire season! But what really kills me here....even though the aforementioned, he was in the top 3 in points through the first half of the season?!...

Sergei Samsonov is one of the most talented and exciting wingers in the game today. He will surely get his revenge for getting pushed to the curb by Bruins management.

Montreal's top 2 lines are surely better than ours, simply becasue we don't have a true second line winger. There is no debate:

Higgins Koivu Ryder
Samsonov Ribeiro Kovalev

is better than

Bergeron Boyes Sturm
Axelsson Savard Murray

Their second line destroys ours, especially in the new NHL.....I really can't believe what I'm reading here?

Calm down, First our first line destroy Habs first line veryyyy easy.

Now Kovalev score 1 goal less than Murray even if Murray play with garbage all year long, Savard Score 28 goals, Ribeiro 16, Sammy score 23 goal but he's useless in most of others facet of the game. Axelson (if put on the second line ?) score 10 goals but he bring a lot in a hockey game. IMO Kessel can score more than sammy in a very short period of time.

So please take a deep breath.

you're banking on an 18 year old having a very productive year as a second line winger his rookie season. Not a very good risk IMO.

And you are banking on a player who was a great rookie and sophomore , but since then.... didn't progressed (even refgressed) much.:dunno:

Anyway, it just hit me that sadly this must mean we'll never again see Nugs' Sammy sniffles avatar wearing his little bitty B's PJs. :(

one last time for posterity.

You guys gotta read this thread! It's like they got Mike Bossy in his prime.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=270530

I especially like the post:

"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


were goona mow down the entire nhl"

AND

"I'm shaking right now. I can't believe it."

Now that's high comedy!;)

hahahaha I know I was over there like an hour ago... and saw those posts along with "STANLEY CUP HERE WE COME" - had myself a good chuckle over it.

do we have any russians in our line-up?:dunno:

Oh thank you ,Habs fan, for coming here to teach us....:sarcasm:

One bad year... :biglaugh:

They haven't seen Sammy trip over the blueline yet. :biglaugh:

Nugs will bring that avatar back for the Bos-Habs games, right, Nugs? :biglaugh:

How many games does Sammy play against Boston this year? :D

pure genius - samsonov misses the habs' press conference due to turf toe.

do we have any russians in our line-up?:dunno:

zinovjev :dunce:

Sammyyyyy... come on, you're better than this!!

His english was starting to get better... wonder if he'll have to start all over again with french

:biglaugh: Some of you Bruin fans crack me up, talking about how small the Habs are. Those days are long over. You're only looking at the cover (Koivu, Ribeiro, Samsonov), and not the bigger guys deeper on the team. Kovalev is 220+ lbs, not a small man, ask Darcy Tucker. Begin is smaller but hits like a demon, and can fight. Komisarek is a big kid, Souray and Rivet can fight. Need I go on?

I don't like Tucker at all. What are we supposed to ask him... Oh I know, how it feels to have a guy pretend to lose the puck and take your head off, only to receive no suspension? Not to derail the thread, but that was one of the cheapest shots I've seen in a while.

one last time for posterity.

LOL, if you don't use it, I will during the Bos-Habs games. :D

Who is left? Carter? We will still be very week up front.

Who says we have to acquire a player thru UFA??? Lots of players we can trade for...I mean, I never thought M.Johnson was avail.

That being said, we aren't that "weak" on forward....however we still need another top 6forward.

You guys gotta read this thread! It's like they got Mike Bossy in his prime.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=270530

I especially like the post:

"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


were goona mow down the entire nhl"

AND

"I'm shaking right now. I can't believe it."

Now that's high comedy!;)


Saw those before....nearly fell off my seat! Never met a sensible Habs fan - seriously!

zinovjev :dunce:

:biglaugh:

pure genius - samsonov misses the habs' press conference due to turf toe.

:biglaugh: :biglaugh:

pure genius - samsonov misses the habs' press conference due to turf toe.

I kind of miss having Sammy on the team. He was fun to pick on. :D

Turf toe, eh? Sounds like a disease. :lol:

i think Chira needs to find that other Foward to go on that second line.But we might not have the Cash but hoping something gets done/it looks like it might have to be via the trade.

See Nugs, that picture should be inserted into your avatar.
Use Photopshop and see what you can do.

Chara in a Bruins jersey
Samsonov (with that face) wearing a Habs jersey.

Calm down, First our first line destroy Habs first line veryyyy easy.

Now Kovalev score 1 goal less than Murray even if Murray play with garbage all year long, Savard Score 28 goals, Ribeiro 16, Sammy score 23 goal but he's useless in most of others facet of the game. Axelson (if put on the second line ?) score 10 goals but he bring a lot in a hockey game. IMO Kessel can score more than sammy in a very short period of time.

So please take a deep breath.

I don't agree. Thornton made Murray, and Savard is certainly no Thornton.
With Samsonov and Kovalev on his wings, Ribeiro(as much as I can't stand the guy) will certainly score more than 16 goals this season.

I think my arguement is not so much directed at how good Montreal is, but how poor our second line will play this season.

I really hope I'm wrong

LOL, if you don't use it, I will during the Bos-Habs games. :D

we'll both use it, tag-team style. sammy must pay! :biglaugh:

i still can't quite fathom this. the habs?? geez - there had to be other teams interested. does he really want to play on a line with mike ribeiro? :dunce:

What's exciting is to actually see if Sammy can skate through Chara's legs, and what's sad is that he's the only player Bouillion does not have to look up to...
Anyways what is with all this hate, i know a couple Bruins fans and...wait now that i think about it i haven't heard from them since 04.

I think Sammy showed this past postseason what he can do in the playoffs with a team that actually plays together in the postseason.

He was very good throughout the postseason for Edmonton. That kid did things that he didnt do in Boston...funny how that happens with a lot of guys who leave.

Thornton, Rolston, Samsonov, Knuble...maybe its not the players. Just maybe it was the environment.

Later
Not really, Rolston, and Knuble played very well here IMO but they really weren't recognized for it until they were gone. :dunno: Knuble was brought along by the Bruins while Rolston was so over-played by the B's that he couldn't hit the net by the end of the season and by playoff time his legs were Jello.

And you are banking on a player who was a great rookie and sophomore , but since then.... didn't progressed (even refgressed) much.:dunno:

Do you really wnat to have this debate? You truely think Kessel will do better than Samsonov next season?

See Nugs, that picture should be inserted into your avatar.
Use Photopshop and see what you can do.

Chara in a Bruins jersey
Samsonov (with that face) wearing a Habs jersey.

my man, i am about the worst photoshopper around. if you want to take a stab at it, be my guest. or maybe stomper can do something - i'd love to turn mccabe into sammy sniffles getting intimidated by big Z

zinovjev :dunce:

I never want to hear that boys name mentioned with the word Boston ever again. :banghead:

What's exciting is to actually see if Sammy can skate through Chara's legs, and what's sad is that he's the only player Bouillion does not have to look up to...
Anyways what is with all this hate, i know a couple Bruins fans and...wait now that i think about it i haven't heard from them since 04.

they got tired of your obsessive whining and excuses why the habs didn't win the cup with ribero leading the way:p:

I kind of miss having Sammy on the team. He was fun to pick on. :D

Turf toe, eh? Sounds like a disease. :lol:

Actually, i heard he didn't even get out his car because he's afraid of heights.

I never want to hear that boys name mentioned with the word Boston ever again. :banghead:

ask kirk what i told him the other day. "i hope they trade that fargin bastage to atlanta"

LR - i'm saddened by sammy's decision. i may have to stay up all night and watch spartacus.

we'll both use it, tag-team style. sammy must pay! :biglaugh:

i still can't quite fathom this. the habs?? geez - there had to be other teams interested. does he really want to play on a line with mike ribeiro? :dunce:

Sounds like fun- we need someone to make a baby avatar in Habs pajamas for us as well.

Honestly, I don't think too many teams are interested in him because of his health and past injuries. Have you heard anything lately as to how his neuroligical disorder is doing, nugs? I've been wondering about that lately.

I don't agree. Thornton made Murray, and Savard is certainly no Thornton.
With Samsonov and Kovalev on his wings, Ribeiro(as much as I hate the can't stand the guy) will certainly score more than 16 goals this season.

I think my arguement is not so much directed at how good Montreal is, but how poor our second line will play this season.

I really hope I'm wrong

Murray didn't play with Thornton too much game last season, first he was injured and Thornton trade.

be honest if the Habs get the same Samsonov of the last couple of years, I'm not sure he's a good grab. How many game he really win a game for us by his stellar play last season ?

Sounds like fun- we need someone to make a baby avatar in Habs pajamas for us as well.

Honestly, I don't think too many teams are interested in him because of his health and past injuries. Have you heard anything lately as to how his neuroligical disorder is doing, nugs? I've been wondering about that lately.

i haven't heard anything about it - although i never went digging around. where is dupes? i expect an article w/quotes from sammy saying how he's loved the habs since being a small boy :sarcasm:

Do you really wnat to have this debate? You truely think Kessel will do better than Samsonov next season?

Due to the fact that I haven't seen anything special from Samsonov this year (and previous one) I don't see why young and wishing to prove himself Phil can't do even better.

Brad Boyes , rookie, did better than Sammy this year, so why not Kessel , who IMHO is more talented than Boyes?

wow just wow.....I hope Chara slams his *** into the boards.

ask kirk what i told him the other day. "i hope they trade that fargin bastage to atlanta"

LR - i'm saddened by sammy's decision. i may have to stay up all night and watch spartacus.

We can throw eggs and tomatoes at neighbors car windows and watch them dry all night. It would be fun watching folks wash their windows in the morning. :biglaugh:

Due to the fact that I haven't seen anything special from Samsonov this year (and previous one) I don't see why young and wishing to prove himself Phil can't do even better.

Brad Boyes , rookie, did better than Sammy this year, so why not Kessel , who IMHO is more talented than Boyes?

well, boyes was 5 years older than kessel would be when he gets to camp. and he also had a few years in the AHL to hone his skills.

I don't like Tucker at all. What are we supposed to ask him... Oh I know, how it feels to have a guy pretend to lose the puck and take your head off, only to receive no suspension? Not to derail the thread, but that was one of the cheapest shots I've seen in a while.

Yes... but the fact remains that, since Darcy Tucker was on the receiving end of the elbow, Kovalev likely lived the dream of millions of hockey fans worldwide.

Do you really wnat to have this debate? You truely think Kessel will do better than Samsonov next season?

He could. It isn't likely, hell he's not even guaranteed to be in the NHL next year, but if he is, well, you never know with a guy like that.

Samsonov used to be my favorite player in the league, even when he went to Edmonton.

Now, it is time to BURN his #14 Bruins jersey.

Apparently the Habs picked up Mike Johnson from PHX today too. Kinda funny, considering it was neck and neck with Johnson and Sammy for the '98 Calder.

Johnson for a 4th is a good pickup, actually.

Samsonov used to be my favorite player in the league, even when he went to Edmonton.

Now, it is time to BURN his #14 Bruins jersey.

Amen,
too bad I live in Toronto or I'd start a fire with you :sarcasm:

We can throw eggs and tomatoes at neighbors car windows and watch them dry all night. It would be fun watching folks wash their windows in the morning. :biglaugh:

just starting raining hard here...that suggestion is out!

maybe a homeade stinkbomb strategically placed in my roommate's bed. i'm only here for another week, and she deserves at least that ;)

Murray didn't play with Thornton too much game last season, first he was injured and Thornton trade.

be honest if the Habs get the same Samsonov of the last couple of years, I'm not sure he's a good grab. How many game he really win a game for us by his stellar play last season ?

be honest do you really think it was fair to judge Samsonov's play last year while playing with Travis Green and Wayne Primeau almos the entire season?

If Samsonov can stay healthy, which I believe he proved that he can last season, he will easily score 30 goals 70 points playing with talent.

Amen,
too bad I live in Toronto or I'd start a fire with you :sarcasm:

I'm thinking of making a road trip!

Doesn't make sense to me. Why would they want Samsonov? I think they just settled for him. He's small, is not a goal scorer, and gives the puck up constantly. That team needs size and strength so bad.

Obviously, it makes the Habs better, but nothing too great that I am worried.

Savard > Samsonov, by a mile. Even though Savard is overpayed, I'll take Savard for 2M more for sure.

be honest do you really think it was fair to judge Samsonov's play last year while playing with Travis Green and Wayne Primeau almos the entire season?

If Samsonov can stay healthy, which I believe he proved that he can last season, he will easily score 30 goals 70 points playing with talent.

unfortunately ther are only 82 games in a season

t-minus 1 minute before tim teufelsdreck pipes in. i'm convinced that he's really stewie from family guy.

with all the hype of '97, would you consider sammy a 1st round bust?:dunno:

I'm thinking of making a road trip!

Come on down,
Will have a BBQ, burn the jerseys, make fun of Gill/Raycroft to all the Leaf fans. Consider it an early X-Mas present :D

Due to the fact that I haven't seen anything special from Samsonov this year (and previous one) I don't see why young and wishing to prove himself Phil can't do even better.

Brad Boyes , rookie, did better than Sammy this year, so why not Kessel , who IMHO is more talented than Boyes?

Look, I want to believe that Kessel is Crosby, I really do. In fact, I have been placing him on our second line for the last 2 weeks, but lets face it: Boyes had 2 AHL seasons under his belt, and is 24 years old...Kessel is barely 18 and has never played prohockey. Kessel will make the team IMO, but to expect a 30 goal 70 point season (Samsonov's numbers playing on a talented line) from Kessel this year is just plain unrealistic.

with all the hype of '97, would you consider sammy a 1st round bust?:dunno:

He's still a top 6forward IMO, and he's only 27.
I wouldnt say he is a bust

If Samsonov can stay healthy, which I believe he proved that he can last season, he will easily score 30 goals 70 points playing with talent.

That talent would be Ribeiro? :biglaugh:

Samsonov was probably demoralized playing in Boston last season. He has the opportunity for a fresh start and may feel he has something to prove. He replaces Bulis, who was maddeningly inconsistent. The replacement for Zednik may be Johnson or any one of three rookies (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, or Lapierre). Gainey might see Johnson as a replacement for Ribeiro. He's bigger, faster, and shoots right. Who knows, Ribeiro might end up on the Bruins via a three-way trade.

ask kirk what i told him the other day. "i hope they trade that fargin bastage to atlanta"

I meant to comment on this as well, but hubby interrupted me. :banghead:

I agree, send him off somewhere- San Jose would be better. :D

Look, I want to believe that Kessel is Crosby, I really do. In fact, I have been placing him on our second line for the last 2 weeks, but lets face it: Boyes had 2 AHL seasons under his belt, and is 24 years old...Kessel is barely 18 and has never played prohockey. Kessel will make the team IMO, but to expect a 30 goal 70 point season (Samsonov's numbers playing on a talented line) from Kessel this year is just plain unrealistic.

Wait a second... I thought you were a HAB fan... By bad...

be honest do you really think it was fair to judge Samsonov's play last year while playing with Travis Green and Wayne Primeau almos the entire season?

If Samsonov can stay healthy, which I believe he proved that he can last season, he will easily score 30 goals 70 points playing with talent.

The Question is why the last couple of years with the Bruins he wasn't on first line and first PP unit with his talent ? is it because even with a great talent he've so much flaws in his game to be put in a crusial position in the Bruins lineup ?

just starting raining hard here...that suggestion is out!

maybe a homeade stinkbomb strategically placed in my roommate's bed. i'm only here for another week, and she deserves at least that ;)

Perhaps we could toss dead fish under their front seats in the car? :D

What did your roommate do to deserve a stink bomb in her bed? :biglaugh:

Samsonov was probably demoralized playing in Boston last season. He has the opportunity for a fresh start and may feel he has something to prove. He replaces Bulis, who was maddeningly inconsistent. The replacement for Zednik may be Johnson or any one of three rookies (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, or Lapierre). Gainey might see Johnson as a replacement for Ribeiro. He's bigger, faster, and shoots right. Who knows, Ribeiro might end up on the Bruins via a three-way trade.


:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: You made my day!

Samsonov was probably demoralized playing in Boston last season. He has the opportunity for a fresh start and may feel he has something to prove. He replaces Bulis, who was maddeningly inconsistent. The replacement for Zednik may be Johnson or any one of three rookies (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, or Lapierre). Gainey might see Johnson as a replacement for Ribeiro. He's bigger, faster, and shoots right. Who knows, Ribeiro might end up on the Bruins via a three-way trade.

You should be stoned to death for even saying it.

That talent would be Ribeiro? :biglaugh:

I see your point:D But he is quick and shifty and can score dirty goals off of rebounds. Then there is Kovalev, who as you probably already know is a game breaker.

Samsonov was probably demoralized playing in Boston last season. He has the opportunity for a fresh start and may feel he has something to prove. He replaces Bulis, who was maddeningly inconsistent. The replacement for Zednik may be Johnson or any one of three rookies (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, or Lapierre). Gainey might see Johnson as a replacement for Ribeiro. He's bigger, faster, and shoots right. Who knows, Ribeiro might end up on the Bruins via a three-way trade.

Good call Nugs!

Samsonov was probably demoralized playing in Boston last season. He has the opportunity for a fresh start and may feel he has something to prove. He replaces Bulis, who was maddeningly inconsistent. The replacement for Zednik may be Johnson or any one of three rookies (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, or Lapierre). Gainey might see Johnson as a replacement for Ribeiro. He's bigger, faster, and shoots right. Who knows, Ribeiro might end up on the Bruins via a three-way trade.

http://itpro.no/images/upload/lordagssnacks-stewie.jpg

What are these habs trying to do? Build a team of the softest players in the NHL? :shakehead I hope he doesnt kill us 8 times a year!

« Soft » players bring Habs to playoff.

http://itpro.no/images/upload/lordagssnacks-stewie.jpg

Victory is mine!

What did your roommate do to deserve a stink bomb in her bed? :biglaugh:

biggest loser/annoying person i've ever met - and i know some real winners :biglaugh:

I have a question for you guys.

If your top 6 is better than ours, how come we kicked you azzzzzzz all season long, and you failed miserably to make the playoffs?

Good call Nugs!

he can't stay away - closet bruins fan.