Leafs Goaltenders Past and Present

Cap'n Flavour
07-17-2006, 09:03 AM
Now I don't know about you but I am somewhat concerned about the status of goaltending, a position at which the Leafs have traditionally excelled. As such, I have done an objective and scientific analysis to attempt to determine how the Leafs goaltending situation has changed over the past few seasons and what to expect from our current crew.

Felix Potvin

As you all know, Felix Potvin was nicknamed 'The Cat' partly because of his cat-like reflexes but mostly because he strongly resembled the cartoon cat of the same first name. However, putting bias aside for a moment we will examine the benefits of a cat-like goaltender. As previously mentioned, cats have excellent reflexes and are extraordinarily agile for their size. They are well-trained at tracking and pouncing on small objects such as mice, tuna cans and hockey pucks, which would seem to make them ideal for the goaltending position. And these traits did allow Felix to post several very impressive seasons as a Maple Leaf, but unfortunately he succumbed to the major flaws of cats. The first problem is that cats can appear lazy and disinterested at times, the former due to their frequent naps and the latter due to the fact that they are cats. These problems are compounded by the fact that cats simply do not age well and lose much of their agility and hunting ability in the process. As such, while Felix was a great goaltender in his prime with the Leafs, he could not continue that level of play after he was traded.

Curtis Joseph

The natural enemy of domesticated cats is of course the dog. Curtis "Cujo" Joseph was nicknamed after a rabid dog that terrorized a small, helpless community. Now dogs, like cats, are excellent hunters, though more suitable for larger objects than pucks and for longer-range retrieval. Nonetheless, they share many of the same positive traits as cats, with the additional benefit of being larger and friendlier towards humans. As well, Curtis' longevity with the Leafs can be attributed to the loyal and obedient nature of dogs, albeit slightly lessened in the case of rabid dogs. Still, rabid or not, dogs are more capable of focusing over a 60-minute span than cats, as they are less likely to simply plop down and go to sleep. As such, it is no wonder than Curtis was the longest-lasting of recent Leafs goaltenders, if not capable of putting up the best numbers.

Ed Belfour

As Curtis' time in Toronto expired, he was replaced by Eddie "The Eagle" Belfour. What really needs to be said about eagles that isn't widely known? Eagles are peerless hunters with superb vision and sharp, powerful claws and beaks. While this makes them excellent hunters and adept at identifying and stopping moving objects at high speed, they do have many flaws. Firstly, they aren't very big and thus have trouble covering the lower portions of a net, where flying is impossible. Secondly, while they are excellent maneuvering at high speeds, their agility from a resting position is highly questionable. This is especially problematic in hockey rinks, where goaltenders are expected to remain at most 6 feet above the ice. As such, it is no wonder that Belfour's success as a Maple Leaf was limited to two seasons, as age caught up to him and NHL shooters began crowding the crease with five-hole shots and bird treats.

Andrew Raycroft

The Leafs' current starting goaltender is easily the most worrisome of the bunch. Known as the 'Razor' or 'Rayzor' (a nickname previously given to Rob Ray), he is by far the least suited to being an NHL goaltender. Firstly, razors can't move on their own, in stark contrast to the previous three animals. They're also pretty small and rather thin, leaving them unable to play a positional style. And what are razors known for? That's right, shaving and botched suicide attempts. Personally, I don't think any of those abilities are really necessary in a hockey goaltender.

Clearly we have established that the Leafs' goaltending is in the worst shape it has been in years and will not improve until a goaltender with a more suitable nickname is found. My solution? It should have been Nikolai 'The Bulin Wall' Khabibulin. I mean, what could possibly be better than a wall, provided all of the bricks are filled in? JFJ has clearly dropped the ball on this one and Toronto Maple Leafs fans will be paying the price for years to come.

TribalPhoenix
07-17-2006, 09:07 AM
Now I don't know about you but I am somewhat concerned about the status of goaltending, a position at which the Leafs have traditionally excelled. As such, I have done an objective and scientific analysis to attempt to determine how the Leafs goaltending situation has changed over the past few seasons and what to expect from our current crew.

Felix Potvin

As you all know, Felix Potvin was nicknamed 'The Cat' partly because of his cat-like reflexes but mostly because he strongly resembled the cartoon cat of the same first name. However, putting bias aside for a moment we will examine the benefits of a cat-like goaltender. As previously mentioned, cats have excellent reflexes and are extraordinarily agile for their size. They are well-trained at tracking and pouncing on small objects such as mice, tuna cans and hockey pucks, which would seem to make them ideal for the goaltending position. And these traits did allow Felix to post several very impressive seasons as a Maple Leaf, but unfortunately he succumbed to the major flaws of cats. The first problem is that cats can appear lazy and disinterested at times, the former due to their frequent naps and the latter due to the fact that they are cats. These problems are compounded by the fact that cats simply do not age well and lose much of their agility and hunting ability in the process. As such, while Felix was a great goaltender in his prime with the Leafs, he could not continue that level of play after he was traded.

Curtis Joseph

The natural enemy of domesticated cats is of course the dog. Curtis "Cujo" Joseph was nicknamed after a rabid dog that terrorized a small, helpless community. Now dogs, like cats, are excellent hunters, though more suitable for larger objects than pucks and for longer-range retrieval. Nonetheless, they share many of the same positive traits as cats, with the additional benefit of being larger and friendlier towards humans. As well, Curtis' longevity with the Leafs can be attributed to the loyal and obedient nature of dogs, albeit slightly lessened in the case of rabid dogs. Still, rabid or not, dogs are more capable of focusing over a 60-minute span than cats, as they are less likely to simply plop down and go to sleep. As such, it is no wonder than Curtis was the longest-lasting of recent Leafs goaltenders, if not capable of putting up the best numbers.

Ed Belfour

As Curtis' time in Toronto expired, he was replaced by Eddie "The Eagle" Belfour. What really needs to be said about eagles that isn't widely known? Eagles are peerless hunters with superb vision and sharp, powerful claws and beaks. While this makes them excellent hunters and adept at identifying and stopping moving objects at high speed, they do have many flaws. Firstly, they aren't very big and thus have trouble covering the lower portions of a net, where flying is impossible. Secondly, while they are excellent maneuvering at high speeds, their agility from a resting position is highly questionable. This is especially problematic in hockey rinks, where goaltenders are expected to remain at most 6 feet above the ice. As such, it is no wonder that Belfour's success as a Maple Leaf was limited to two seasons, as age caught up to him and NHL shooters began crowding the crease with five-hole shots and bird treats.

Andrew Raycroft

The Leafs' current starting goaltender is easily the most worrisome of the bunch. Known as the 'Razor' or 'Rayzor' (a nickname previously given to Rob Ray), he is by far the least suited to being an NHL goaltender. Firstly, razors can't move on their own, in stark contrast to the previous three animals. They're also pretty small and rather thin, leaving them unable to play a positional style. And what are razors known for? That's right, shaving and botched suicide attempts. Personally, I don't think any of those abilities are really necessary in a hockey goaltender.

Clearly we have established that the Leafs' goaltending is in the worst shape it has been in years and will not improve until a goaltender with a more suitable nickname is found. My solution? It should have been Nikolai 'The Bulin Wall' Khabibulin. I mean, what could possibly be better than a wall, provided all of the bricks are filled in? JFJ has clearly dropped the ball on this one and Toronto Maple Leafs fans will be paying the price for years to come.

People said the same thing about Belfour after his sub-par year in Dallas... everyone was worried and proclaimed that Belfour had no game left.

He then went on to give 2 stellar seasons in net, including a Vezina nomination.

I'm not worried. Not a bit.

Sens Rule
07-17-2006, 09:20 AM
People said the same thing about Belfour after his sub-par year in Dallas... everyone was worried and proclaimed that Belfour had no game left.

He then went on to give 2 stellar seasons in net, including a Vezina nomination.

I'm not worried. Not a bit.

Of course Belfour was a shoo-in Hall of Famer, Cup winning goalie and Vexina winner and old. Raycroft played only 1 season and was very good winning the Calder then sucked in his next season right in his prime. Belfour's bad year in Dallas was nothing compared to how bad Raycroft was last season.

There is not much reason to compare the 2 in terms of their year of struggles before joining the Leafs.

I am a Raycroft fan and I hope he does well but he is not Ed Belfour.

TribalPhoenix
07-17-2006, 09:41 AM
Of course Belfour was a shoo-in Hall of Famer, Cup winning goalie and Vexina winner and old. Raycroft played only 1 season and was very good winning the Calder then sucked in his next season right in his prime. Belfour's bad year in Dallas was nothing compared to how bad Raycroft was last season.

There is not much reason to compare the 2 in terms of their year of struggles before joining the Leafs.

I am a Raycroft fan and I hope he does well but he is not Ed Belfour.

My point is that people all said Belfour was washed up and had nothing in the tank... Raycroft was fighting through injuries, and had only played 11 games in 2 years before coming back. Lets not forget that Boston's entire team was garbage, and though Raycroft wasn't very good, neither were a lot of guys on the squad.

Raycroft has the touch. Trust me.

TomWaits
07-17-2006, 10:53 AM
Raycroft has the touch. Trust me.[/QUOTE]

i hope you and JFJ are right about this

TomWaits

Sens Rule
07-17-2006, 11:56 AM
My point is that people all said Belfour was washed up and had nothing in the tank... Raycroft was fighting through injuries, and had only played 11 games in 2 years before coming back. Lets not forget that Boston's entire team was garbage, and though Raycroft wasn't very good, neither were a lot of guys on the squad.

Raycroft has the touch. Trust me.

Thomas and Toivenen had no problem playing well for the "garbage" Boston team.

I really am a Raycroft fan. I am a huge Kingston Frontenacs fan and Raycroft is the best goalie they ever had. Still I am not entirely sold that he will be great this season. He will be alot better than last season regardless though.

But the comparisions to Belfour are silly and irrelevant. Belfour with injuries at over 40 years old was better than Raycroft.

TribalPhoenix
07-17-2006, 12:11 PM
Thomas and Toivenen had no problem playing well for the "garbage" Boston team.

I really am a Raycroft fan. I am a huge Kingston Frontenacs fan and Raycroft is the best goalie they ever had. Still I am not entirely sold that he will be great this season. He will be alot better than last season regardless though.

But the comparisions to Belfour are silly and irrelevant. Belfour with injuries at over 40 years old was better than Raycroft.

Neither Thomas nor Toivonen were hurt while they were playing. Also, Thomas played 59 games for Jokerit, while Toivonen had 54 games in Providence during the lockout. Raycroft had a measly 11 games. Its one thing to be a 10 year veteran and miss nearly a whole season, but its totally a different story when you're only a few years in.

There were only two defenceman who was a + player last season, and they were Milan Jurcina (+3) and Andrew Alberts (+7). Ironically, the 4th player on the blueline was Hal Gill (-4), whom everyone is dumping on and yet was better than David Tanabe (-5), and vastly superior to the likes of Nick Boynton (-7) Brad Stuart (-8) and Brian Leetch (-10). Lets not forget as well that the Bruins may have lost offence, but gained defence when they got Stuart, and to a lesser extent when they picked up Tanabe. So, technically, Toivonen and Thomas were playing with an improved defensive corps than Raycroft was.

No one can compare Raycroft to Belfour yet, and likely never will be able to... but the fact is that whenever we get a new goalie, unless they're considered one of the top 5 in the game, everyone says they're going to be awful...

Sens Rule
07-17-2006, 12:33 PM
Neither Thomas nor Toivonen were hurt while they were playing. Also, Thomas played 59 games for Jokerit, while Toivonen had 54 games in Providence during the lockout. Raycroft had a measly 11 games. Its one thing to be a 10 year veteran and miss nearly a whole season, but its totally a different story when you're only a few years in.

There were only two defenceman who was a + player last season, and they were Milan Jurcina (+3) and Andrew Alberts (+7). Ironically, the 4th player on the blueline was Hal Gill (-4), whom everyone is dumping on and yet was better than David Tanabe (-5), and vastly superior to the likes of Nick Boynton (-7) Brad Stuart (-8) and Brian Leetch (-10). Lets not forget as well that the Bruins may have lost offence, but gained defence when they got Stuart, and to a lesser extent when they picked up Tanabe. So, technically, Toivonen and Thomas were playing with an improved defensive corps than Raycroft was.

No one can compare Raycroft to Belfour yet, and likely never will be able to... but the fact is that whenever we get a new goalie, unless they're considered one of the top 5 in the game, everyone says they're going to be awful...

Well when the Goalie played awful last season people will say he is awful. The Sens got a goalie who played great last season in Gerber and people say he is a choker and awful. Huet was freaking unbelievable last year and many say he is a flash in the pan and will be awful. Thomas was unbelievable last season in pretty much evety game he played but many doubt his ability to play this year.

There are doubts about many North East division goalies but most of them played well except Raycroft who was awful. I can't see why anyone wouldn't have huge doubts about his ability to play well this coming season. I am in the minority in thinking he will play pretty well and have comeback year but really there isn't an Anti-Leaf bias about this... Raycroft sucked last year. And bringing up that he was injured and barely played and sucked in the lockout season as well isn't going to win Raycroft any converts to his cause.

I say wait till the season starts. Raycroft could be the best goalie in the division. But the odds say he won't likely be that but it still is within the realm of possibility.

BGSUHockey84
07-17-2006, 01:24 PM
WHEN CAN WE GET A GOOD GOALIE?? since Felix we got Cujo who was over the hill then eddie oth
now Raycroft we is scared of the puck. I sorry I'm so bitter, but I'm spending the summer with my Aunt in Ottawa and you know how fun Sens fans are

serdy
07-17-2006, 04:06 PM
good article, got a pretty good laugh out of it