MLB Trade Deadline Rumors

Anything you hear...please post it, with a link whenever applicable\possible.

Watching Cubs\Mets tonight, apparently the Mets are interested\have inquired to the availability of Greg Maddux, which I hadn't heard before now.

According to ESPN the A's are the frontrunners for Carlos Lee. We need him or any bat BAD!

The Sox really aren't in any big rumors, which is strange considering they only have 3 true starters right now.

There's a bit of a Seanez/Tavarez to Colorado for Ray King/King+Shealy respectively going around, but I don't see that happening.

I think Theo is shopping Trot Nixon, but ike Abreu, the only interested teams would be the likes of the Yanks or Tigers, who we're competing against, so not gonna happen.

I think they like what they have and are counting on David Wells coming back strong and Keith Foulke being something close to resembing a major league pitcher. Clement is done though.

One rumor has Tom Gordon going to Boston in exchange for Trot Nixon.


The White Sox are extremely close to trading for Nationals outfielder Alfonso Soriano, according to ESPN the Mag's Tim Kurkjian. Brandon McCarthy is likely headed the other way. Variations of the rumor have Javier Vazquez and Scott Podsednik going to Washington or Brandon McCarthy and Josh Fields.

http://www.mlb4u.com/rumor.php?order=date&spec=DESC

One rumor has Tom Gordon going to Boston in exchange for Trot Nixon.
I would cream in my pants, but I have no idea why Philly would do that.

Some Dodger stuff...

They're supposedly interested in acquiring a power hitting 3rd baseman. With some of the rumors floating around about Greg Maddux and Aramis Ramirez, I think I'm able to put two and two together to see that they may try to move on both of them. The Dodgers could sneak in on the Soriano thing, but I'll wait and see.

Carlos Zambrano, RHSP--Chicago Cubs: Carlos Zambrano or Mark Prior will be heading from the CUBS to the JAYS before the trade deadline for a package that includes Casey Janssen and Brandon League. With the Cubs becoming one of the worse teams in the league they may not want pay there elite pitcher the big bucks. They might turn to prospects and rebuild the franchise.

http://www.mlb4u.com/rumor.php?order=date&spec=DESC


Seems rather bogus but I hope it's true.

A rotation with Prior, Halladay, and Burnett would dominate the Disabled List.

A rotation with Prior, Halladay, and Burnett would dominate the Disabled List.

:biglaugh:

I would cream in my pants, but I have no idea why Philly would do that.

It would mean they would trade Abreu.

I know, but Nixon is a free agent, and not very good. You could get a lot more for a top closer.

Carlos Zambrano, RHSP--Chicago Cubs: Carlos Zambrano or Mark Prior will be heading from the CUBS to the JAYS before the trade deadline for a package that includes Casey Janssen and Brandon League. With the Cubs becoming one of the worse teams in the league they may not want pay there elite pitcher the big bucks. They might turn to prospects and rebuild the franchise.

http://www.mlb4u.com/rumor.php?order=date&spec=DESC


Seems rather bogus but I hope it's true.

Just look at the site. Obviously it's garbage. (not saying a deal is totally implausible between the two teams, just that site has no credibility)

As for Zambrano, no chance. Or at least the package will have to be A LOT better. (Rios + at least 2 top young pitchers, if not more) Really, I just don't see there being a chance in hell of the Jays getting Zambrano.

Prior is a possibility I suppose. Not sure it'd be worth the gamble though.

A rotation with Prior, Halladay, and Burnett would dominate the Disabled List.

.......Halladay is hardly ever injured.

Just look at the site. Obviously it's garbage.

When, at the top of the page, there is an "add a rumor" link, you know that the site is trash. Unless you're bored.

Just look at the site. Obviously it's garbage. (not saying a deal is totally implausible between the two teams, just that site has no credibility)

As for Zambrano, no chance. Or at least the package will have to be A LOT better. (Rios + at least 2 top young pitchers, if not more) Really, I just don't see there being a chance in hell of the Jays getting Zambrano.

Prior is a possibility I suppose. Not sure it'd be worth the gamble though.

Should I post a ******** rumor of the Giants trading Barry Bonds to the Tigers in exchange for Justin Verlander?:biglaugh:

.......Halladay is hardly ever injured.
Except for the last 2 years.

I read that ESPN radio reported the Mets traded Heilman to Seattle for Gil Meche...if that's true...:biglaugh:

Kazmir Part II.

I read that ESPN radio reported the Mets traded Heilman to Seattle for Gil Meche...if that's true...:biglaugh:

If it happened, they neglected to mention it throughout the entire game that just ended.

Except for the last 2 years.
Last season was a freak injury, you can't compare him to the prolonging injury issues that Prior or Burnett has throughout their careers.

Newark Star-Ledger (scroll down) (registration required): "The Blue Jays have looked into reacquiring Cesar Izturis from the Dodgers if they can't get Lugo from Tampa Bay."

Except for the last 2 years.

Last year a line-drive broke his leg. Thats not an injury that would make him injury-prone...... :shakehead :biglaugh: :dunno:

Last season was a freak injury, you can't compare him to the prolonging injury issues that Prior or Burnett has throughout their careers.
To be fair, Prior has been a victim of some freak injuries as well.

BTW JohnnyMac, Heilman is most definately not Kazmir Part II. Heilman is just brutal.

Last year a line-drive broke his leg. Thats not an injury that would make him injury-prone...... :shakehead :biglaugh: :dunno:
I never said that. You guys need to reliax.

BTW JohnnyMac, Heilman is most definately not Kazmir Part II. Heilman is just brutal.
It was rather tongue-in-cheek, but I'd bet he'd put up similar numbers to Meche right now if he was starting. Meche is a nobody with injury problems who's having a decent year. Heilman will have the better future.

I never said that. You guys need to reliax.


It was rather tongue-in-cheek, but I'd bet he'd put up similar numbers to Meche right now if he was starting. Meche is a nobody with injury problems who's having a decent year. Heilman will have the better future.

Meche is just a guy who stays around the strike zone and hopes it doesn't get taken out of the yard. He's been pretty effective this year for Seattle. I think he'd fit in well for the stretch drive in NY however I think they're a pretty safe bet to win the east and he'd be nothing but a 4-5 starter come playoff time, which means bullpen. Is that worth trading away one of your best pitching prospects?

Meche is just a guy who stays around the strike zone and hopes it doesn't get taken out of the yard. He's been pretty effective this year for Seattle. I think he'd fit in well for the stretch drive in NY however I think they're a pretty safe bet to win the east and he'd be nothing but a 4-5 starter come playoff time, which means bullpen. Is that worth trading away one of your best pitching prospects?

No, which is just it.

Trachsel > Meche, and I'm not even a Traxx fan.

In fact, as it seems,

Maine > Traxx > Meche

And King Henry...for everything the Mets have put Heilman through, he is far from "brutal."

Stories out there in the dangerous magical place known as sportsradio talking about the Phils moving John Lieber. What type of package would it take to land him from the Red Sox or the Yankess, two teams probably very interested in him?

The Dodgers traded Odalis Perez to the Royals for Elmer Dessens. To exile you go, bum.

Haha, the Royals are the perfect place for Perez.

Edit: The Dodgers also gave up some solid prospects just for the Royals to take Perez.

Julio Lugo is out again with the dreaded 'bruised finger tip'. Supposedly 620WFLA which is usually good for rumors is saying that he is very close to being traded to the Blue Jays with Seth McClung for Rosario , League and Hattig.

Julio Lugo is out again with the dreaded 'bruised finger tip'. Supposedly 620WFLA which is usually good for rumors is saying that he is very close to being traded to the Blue Jays with Seth McClung for Rosario , League and Hattig.
That would be quite the coup for Toronto.

Julio Lugo is out again with the dreaded 'bruised finger tip'. Supposedly 620WFLA which is usually good for rumors is saying that he is very close to being traded to the Blue Jays with Seth McClung for Rosario , League and Hattig.

I'd do it. Rosario doesn't strike me as anything special and Hattig is a 26 year old minor leaguer with average stats in AAA. Losing League hurts but there is no guarantee he will ever amount to anything anyway. (plus Accardo offsets his loss) I'd prefer to trade League for a better starting pitcher but I suspect trading for one at this stage wont be worth it.

McClung's #'s look pretty bad but he has generally played well against Toronto. With the way Janssen is going, he might be better able to give the Jays a chance to win. (he'll get more run support in Toronto anyway) With Rios back + Lugo, the Jays hitting is basically as good as it gets 1-9. No holes anywhere in the lineup. Plus we'd have two months to win him over on the city of Toronto, so hopefully he'd resign at slightly less than market rates.

Julio Lugo is out again with the dreaded 'bruised finger tip'. Supposedly 620WFLA which is usually good for rumors is saying that he is very close to being traded to the Blue Jays with Seth McClung for Rosario , League and Hattig.

I'm really hoping it doesn't pan out. I don't like that trade at all.

Hitting isn't really a problem for Toronto. Adding Lugo would be awesome, but it would be even better if we were able to swap him for a starting pitcher to solidify that part of their roster.

Hitting isn't really a problem for Toronto. Adding Lugo would be awesome, but it would be even better if we were able to swap him for a starting pitcher to solidify that part of their roster.
I'll eat my computer if Lugo isn't a Blue Jay by Monday.

No, wait a minute, I won't do that. Scratch that.

It does seem as though the Jays could use an upgrade at SS, and Lugo is by far the best option out there (presumably the price for Tejada would be excessive). He's going to sign as a free agent somewhere this winter, and if it's not with Toronto they'd get a first-round pick and sandwich as compensation (he'll be Type A). However, Tampa has been steadfast in asking for a lot in Lugo rumors going back to last winter, so it's really hard to know what names have been exchanged.

According to ESPN the A's are the frontrunners for Carlos Lee. We need him or any bat BAD!
If we give you guys Lee I'm going to kill myself!

If we give you guys Lee I'm going to kill myself!

Considering I don't know you personally, then I could live with that. ;)

Beane better do something because this team is falling fast.

Considering I don't know you personally, then I could live with that. ;)

Beane better do something because this team is falling fast.

Hope they keep falling and trade Zito to the Jays

A deal that would send Julio Lugo to Toronto has reportedly hit a snag.

The Blue Jays reportedly aren't willing to part with Dustin McGowan, Brandon League or Shaun Marcum, instead offering their second-tier prospects to the Devil Rays.

I would take the first round pick plus the sandwich pick over someone like Purcey.

'Tis a sad day.

Sal Fasano has been traded to the Yankees, which means he can't rock the best 'stache in baseball anymore.

*Pours one out*

'Tis a sad day.

Sal Fasano has been traded to the Yankees, which means he can't rock the best 'stache in baseball anymore.

*Pours one out*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:SalFasano.jpg

Baseball player or truck driver?

Fasano is pretty decent defensively.

'Tis a sad day.

Sal Fasano has been traded to the Yankees, which means he can't rock the best 'stache in baseball anymore.

*Pours one out*

Weird rules, didn't Thurman Munson have a handlebar stache? And that was under Steinbrenner and he was Captain no less :dunno:

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060726&content_id=1576695&vkey=trade2006&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Small Indians-Mariners trade

It seems like JP is targeting Lugo.

a MIF of Lugo-Hill would be the best we've had all year, I like Johnny Mac but he's not an everyday player and Adams needs to develop more.

and Adams needs to develop more.

Unfortunately that's not looking like it will ever happen. Adams has demonstrated that he's pretty much without a position. He couldn't play short and the Jays finally realized this and tried to make him into a second baseman. And while the sample size is relatively small, he sure as heck didn't look very good defensively at second either. Not to mention that he's just not hitting either. I mean, they could try to convert him to outfield, because he's quick enough. But the arm factor would play there, because it's non existent. Soriano moved to the outfield because he couldn't field the ball, not because he couldn't throw it (doesn't he lead NL outfielders in assists or something). Adams is pretty much in dead territory.

I liked Adams, I really did, I liked the draft pick (I mean come on, the Golden Spikes winner), and I thought he was going to be a pretty decent 2 hitter who could develop decently defensively. But he just hasn't and I think that we as Jays fans have to realize that he's damn near close to getting that "bust tag".

Aaron Hill on the other hand, has been awesome lately and is really developing defensively. He's adequate at short (certainly better then Adams) and he's proved to be very good defensively at second, improving everyday. It doesn't look like he'll ever develop the power we figured he could (some were saying 15-20hr a year), but he looks like he could be a very solid number 2 hitter who makes contact (very very low strikeout numbers).

And Hell, one of these pitchers has to turn out, we have so many guys around the same talent level (Mcgowan, Janssen, Marcum, Rosario, Purcey, both Romero's, etc), that hell at least one of them should turn into a reliable major league starter, at least we hope. But with our luck, it's likely to be the guy we trade away!

Weird rules, didn't Thurman Munson have a handlebar stache? And that was under Steinbrenner and he was Captain no less :dunno:
The rules are if Steinbrenner likes you then you are allowed to do whatever the heck you want, and if he doesn't then don't think about it. Notice how Posada and Giambi often get very grizzly and nobody mentions it, yet the moment Jose Acevedo grows one hair on his chin he almost gets suspended.

BTW with his new mustache Fasano looks kind of like Rafael Palmeiro.

I Will Trade Armando Benitez For Anything! Literally Anything! Who Wants Him?

****, I'll trade him for Greg Vaughn!

I Will Trade Armando Benitez For Anything! Literally Anything! Who Wants Him?



No Deal!

Lugo might not be going anywhere. :yo:

http://www.tbo.com/sports/rays/MGBN697L4QE.html

Edit: Obviously this isn't a done deal, but it's a good sign the organization is trying to keep good players.

Hopefully it's front loaded so the contract value decreases as the contracts of Baldelli, Crawford, etc. increase.

I Will Trade Armando Benitez For Anything! Literally Anything! Who Wants Him?

****, I'll trade him for Greg Vaughn!


I will give you Julian Tavarez and Rudy Seanez

I Will Trade Armando Benitez For Anything! Literally Anything! Who Wants Him?

****, I'll trade him for Greg Vaughn!

The Jays will give you recently reaquired Billy Koch and FA signing MO Vaughn .... potentially could throw in Josh Towers as well....

I just read a rumor that if Keith Foulke completes his rehab stint in condition to pitch regularly, he'll be shipped to SF or Colorado for a starting pitcher

I hear the Padres, Blue Jays and Angels have interest in Morgan Esnberg if Houston makes him available.

Lugo might not be going anywhere. :yo:

http://www.tbo.com/sports/rays/MGBN697L4QE.html (http://www.tbo.com/sports/rays/MGBN697L4QE.html)

Edit: Obviously this isn't a done deal, but it's a good sign the organization is trying to keep good players.

Hopefully it's front loaded so the contract value decreases as the contracts of Baldelli, Crawford, etc. increase.


Are they planning on keeping BJ Upton in the minors forever.

Are they planning on keeping BJ Upton in the minors forever.
Until he learns to play some ****ing defense

Are they planning on keeping BJ Upton in the minors forever.

He's moving to 3B. Likely to be up in the majors before the end of the season.

I Will Trade Armando Benitez For Anything! Literally Anything! Who Wants Him?

****, I'll trade him for Greg Vaughn!

Im pretty sure he only threw 3 strikes last night..all to Soriano. I caught the 9th before the Jays game. Friggin brutal.

I will give you Julian Tavarez and Rudy Seanez

DONE!

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060726&content_id=1576695&vkey=trade2006&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Small Indians-Mariners trade

it may seem small because Benny has been in a platoon role, but he has been great this year in that role. His counterpart, Eduardo perez was also highly successful, and also traded the M's earlier this year. Good pickup for them. The Indians will now move V-Mar to a permanent 1b role.

Buster Olney's trying to claim the Sox are after Miguel Cabrera...like we need another third baseman...

Buster Olney's trying to claim the Sox are after Miguel Cabrera...like we need another third baseman...
Like the Marlins would trade Cabrera anyway...

Like the Marlins would trade Cabrera anyway...
I know...and the deal to get him would start with Craig Hansen...bullpen and depth pitching is our biggest weakness already...it's just BS.

I just heard on WFAN New York that Carlos Lee was just traded to the Texas Rangers for Lance Nix, Kevin Mench, and a pitcher (missed his name)...

If true, my fantasy team just got a lot better :D :D :D

I just heard on WFAN New York that Carlos Lee was just traded to the Texas Rangers for Lance Nix, Kevin Mench, and a pitcher (missed his name)...


:madfire:

I just heard on WFAN New York that Carlos Lee was just traded to the Texas Rangers for Lance Nix, Kevin Mench, and a pitcher (missed his name)...

If true, my fantasy team just got a lot better :D :D :D

Here's a link for the story

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2532418

The Milwaukee Brewers are trading slugger Carlos Lee to the Texas Rangers as part of a multi-player deal, ESPN.com learned Friday.

The Brewers are sending Lee, minor-league outfield prospect Nelson Cruz and a player to be named later to the Rangers for relief pitcher Francisco Cordero and outfielders Kevin Mench and Laynce Nix.

Wow. I don't get that deal.

Texas gets a great hitter, but they give away their setup man in a bullpen that's already horrendous. They're not going anywhere this year...

Buster Olney's trying to claim the Sox are after Miguel Cabrera...like we need another third baseman...

On the surface this looks beyond stupid, but there might be a catch here. There have been several reports of the Red Sox being very creative in trying to make trades so this could be part of a large trade which has Lowell going somewhere else as part of the deal (with the Sox probably eating a portion of the contract). Although if there trading Hansen it had better be for something damn good in exchange!

Wow. I don't get that deal.

Texas gets a great hitter, but they give away their setup man in a bullpen that's already horrendous. They're not going anywhere this year...

Cordero is so inconsistent that I doubt he helps them THIS year, but he is so good that I think he would have rebounded by next season when his head cleared. I agree that on the surface it is a head scratcher, but Mench is too streaky for that ball club, Nyx....bleh, and the Rags are getting players back in the deal. If they are any good, this is a decent trade. Carlos Lee is by far the most superior and impact player in the deal, and in the offseason they are going to get a first round pick and a sandwich first round pick when Lee signs with the Cubs.

Bottomline, the Rangers are hoping Adam Eaton will solidfy their starters, and so they traded for an outfielder to push that lineup over the edge. Young - Texira - Lee....WOW

Wow. I don't get that deal.

Texas gets a great hitter, but they give away their setup man in a bullpen that's already horrendous. They're not going anywhere this year...

Cordero is so inconsistant its not even funny. There's guys here right now who have been pitching better than Cordero. Love the deal.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060727cubsside,1,1852543.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Cubs\Mets talking Maddux.

Not crazy about it, but having seen firsthand that his record is due in large part to how bad the defense\batting behind him is, it could be a good move...especially since it will likely be a pretty cheap deal.

I just heard on WFAN New York that Carlos Lee was just traded to the Texas Rangers for Lance Nix, Kevin Mench, and a pitcher (missed his name)...

If true, my fantasy team just got a lot better :D :D :D

Good trade for my Brewers. Good trade.

Brewers just acquired David Bell from Philly.

ATLANTA -- The Atlanta Braves made another trade to bulk up their bullpen Friday night, acquiring reliever Danys Baez and infielder Willy Aybar from the struggling Los Angeles Dodgers for infielder Wilson Betemit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2533245

Aybar is one of the worst fielders I've ever seen. Peace out Willy.

ATLANTA -- The Atlanta Braves made another trade to bulk up their bullpen Friday night, acquiring reliever Danys Baez and infielder Willy Aybar from the struggling Los Angeles Dodgers for infielder Wilson Betemit.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2533245

Wow.

As for the Lugo situation, my first thought was a sign and trade.

I'm guessing one of the conditions of the team who wants to trade for Lugo is that he is signed on long term.

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-060727cubsside,1,1852543.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

Cubs\Mets talking Maddux.

Not crazy about it, but having seen firsthand that his record is due in large part to how bad the defense\batting behind him is, it could be a good move...especially since it will likely be a pretty cheap deal.

You're trading for the name Greg Maddux at this point of his career. The Cubs want way too much for a guy who's getting hammered.

So uh....Dodger fans give me a true analysis of Aybar. The LA broadcasts early on seemed pretty high on him.

Baez is garbage. His peripherals never really were that good, but at least he is better than Jorge Sosa. Its sad to see Betemit go. The guy has been working his way up the system for about 10 years!

Anyone know the Contract status for Danys?

Aybar can hit, but can't field. He's the type that can hit 15-17 HR's and get at least 80 RBI's. The problem with him being able to reach those stats is his fielding. He's going to commit errors in droves and he's going to make odd decisions with the ball in his hands. If he wants to play every day in the NL, he really needs to work on his fielding. I don't think he has the slightest bit of baseball sense, to be honest.

Baez sucks, but he'll get a chance to close.

well that Broussard/Choo trade isn't looking good for the M's right now:)

Buster Olney reported that the Sox offered Coco Crisp to Chicago for "pitching", but were rejected.

You're trading for the name Greg Maddux at this point of his career. The Cubs want way too much for a guy who's getting hammered.

The thing is...they DON'T want, nor can they get, all that much for him. They're treating him as if he has a NTC out of respect...and letting him approve a trade...and the Mets know that. There's no bidding war, and if the Cubs won't trade him, the Mets shrug it off and get a less fancy number three, a Gil Meche or a Kip Wells or whomever. Maddux wants to go to a contender, he wants to play with Glavine...and again, his numbers are somewhat exaggerated playing with the Cubs.

Bad timing on the part of the Bravos, trading Betamint now...on the night that Chipper appears to be going back on the DL.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5825796

According to FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal, the Angels have offered Ervin Santana and Erick Aybar to the Orioles for Miguel Tejada.

Will Carroll of Baseball Prospectus is reporting that the Astros are offering up Morgan Ensberg, Fernando Nieve and Adam Everett. The Angels' proposal looks like the superior one, in no small part because if would free up a lot more money for the Orioles. The Tigers and Dodgers are also reportedly showing interest in Tejada. A deadline deal seems a lot more likely than it did a couple of weeks ago. Jul. 28 - 9:38 pm et

Source: FOXSports.com

The only way I'd do that above trade is if the Angels can go out and aquire a veteran arm as well, someone like Hernandez or Maddux. But with Colon's health issues its still risky.

Lackey, Weaver, Escobar, Colon + a rental guy, with Saunders potentially replacing Colon if he is injured.

Tejada is owed about 37 mill over the next three years, which isn't to bad, he'd look mighty good with Vlad in the middle of the lineup.

Basically I'd probably do it, because the Angels are going to have a hard enough time winning the division, much less doing anything in the playoffs, without a big bat, and Tejada is a big bat.

The Tigers and Dodgers are also reportedly showing interest in Tejada. A deadline deal seems a lot more likely than it did a couple of weeks ago. Jul. 28 - 9:38 pm et
Why? The infield is full of shortstops and Betemit is going to start. I'm sure any talks for Tejada would begin with Ethier, at which point I would hang up the phone.

Buster Olney reported that the Sox offered Coco Crisp to Chicago for "pitching", but were rejected.

I bet it was for Buerhle. A buy low type of trade, and Williams was going to have none of it because I cannot fathom them turning down a Vazquez or Garland for Crisp deal.

Betemit is also very good at third Dodger fans. Its a shame we decided to deal him after *surprise* Chipper Jones got hurt again. :help:

I bet it was for Buerhle. I buy low type of trade, and Williams was going to have none of it because I cannot fathom them turning down a Vazquez or Garland for Crisp deal.

Betemit is also very good at third Dodger fans. Its a shame we decided to deal him after *surprise* Chipper Jones got hurt again. :help:
I'm thinking it was McCarthy...

Yeah, it had to be McCarthy.

The only way I'd do that above trade is if the Angels can go out and aquire a veteran arm as well, someone like Hernandez or Maddux. But with Colon's health issues its still risky.

Lackey, Weaver, Escobar, Colon + a rental guy, with Saunders potentially replacing Colon if he is injured.

Tejada is owed about 37 mill over the next three years, which isn't to bad, he'd look mighty good with Vlad in the middle of the lineup.

Basically I'd probably do it, because the Angels are going to have a hard enough time winning the division, much less doing anything in the playoffs, without a big bat, and Tejada is a big bat.

I hope the Orioles accept. Tejada is the type of bat we need, and even though losing Santana will hurt long-term, Saunders and Weaver are going to be great future pitchers, and best of all, we get to keep Brandon Wood. But, where does Tejada play? Does he go over to second, or does OC go?

I'm guessing if this happens, Stoneman will send AK to a team for a pitcher to replace Santana. If he could pull all that off, finally he'll be doing something good with this team.

I just heard on the radio that the talks are still ongoing, and that the Angels are also after Soriano, but not both, just one. They prefer Tejada because he is signed longterm.

If the Tejada trade went down... I assume we'd see a lineup like this.

vs. RH pitching

CF - Figgins
SS- Cabrera
3B- Tejada
RF- Guerrero
LF- Rivera
DH- Anderson
1B- Kendrick
C- Napoli
2B- Kennedy

Quinlan in for Kennedy and playing 1B vs. LH pitching.

I like that lineup, although I hate to see Macier sit, he is playing really well right now.

Apparently Zito was all but traded early this morning to an unknown team but the deal has hit a snag and he will start today. It was reported that he was told last night there was a good chance he wouldn't start this afternoon

I assume he wouldn't be starting if the deal was almost done.

Apparently Zito was all but traded early this morning to an unknown team but the deal has hit a snag and he will start today. It was reported that he was told last night there was a good chance he wouldn't start this afternoon

I assume he wouldn't be starting if the deal was almost done.

****, that sucks.

Buster Olney reported that the Sox offered Coco Crisp to Chicago for "pitching", but were rejected.

I've lost a lot of confidence in Bustor Olney since he reported on ESPN radio last summer that Manny Ramirez was traded to the NYM just before the deadline and that it was a done deal.

THis trade rumor makes little sense, who would the Red Sox put in CF for the rest of the season? Willy Mo? Also, why would two teams potentially battling for the same wildcard trade with each other?

Well I'll be damned, it was All-Star Buehrle that the Sox asked for, according to Gordon Edes (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/).

Sox ask for Buehrle, are turned down
By Gordon Edes, Globe Staff

The Sox this week offered center fielder Coco Crisp to the White Sox for left-handed All-Star Mark Buehrle, perhaps hoping that Buehrle's recent struggles might persuade White Sox GM Kenny Williams to move him. But the White Sox turned the deal down.

Is the deadline the 30th or 31st?

Is the deadline the 30th or 31st?
31st at 4:00pm

Well I'll be damned, it was All-Star Buehrle that the Sox asked for, according to Gordon Edes (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/).

I figured as much. Epstein is a shrewd manager. I suspect that Buerhle's troubles are due to a tired arm...

Make your offers for:

Jason Schmidt (Look at this guy's stats, just unbelievable considering he gets the 87th most run support out of 91 starting ML pitchers.

Ray Durham (Leads all major league 2B in HRs)

Pedro Feliz (GG caliber 3B, leads NL 3B in RBI)

Anyone on the Giants team outside Noah Lowry, Matt Cain, Jeremy Sanchez, Brad Hennesey, and Brian Wilson (5 young pitchers).

Abreu to the Yankees is looking like a near-done deal, according to ESPN radio...with Cory Lidle, NOT Jon Lieber, accompanying him.

We'll keep an eye on that.

Abreu to the Yankees is looking like a near-done deal, according to ESPN radio...with Cory Lidle, NOT Jon Lieber, accompanying him.

We'll keep an eye on that.
I don't like it only because I don't see where Abreu fits onto the Yankees next season. I guess that Sheffield won't be retained but that would still squeeze Melky out of the lineup and right now, all salaries being equal I'd still rather have Cabrera playing than Abreu.

Lidle could be a boost to our staff though and we aren't going to give up anything more than a package centered around Clippard or maybe J. Brent Cox to get them so I wouldn't whine about this deal.

I'd personally rather have Lieber than Lidle. Lidle busted in NY once...and has been pretty mediocre in Philly, as well. I don't see him as being much better than the already-relegated Chacon.

At least you know Lieber can get it done as a Yank.

I figured as much. Epstein is a shrewd manager. I suspect that Buerhle's troubles are due to a tired arm...

He would have tired a few years ago if that were the case. His velocity is down and he can't locate pitches as well. I think he's hiding an injury.

well that Broussard/Choo trade isn't looking good for the M's right now:)

Wanna re-think that? ;)

Broussard goes dooowntown against his old club, today.

He would have tired a few years ago if that were the case. His velocity is down and he can't locate pitches as well. I think he's hiding an injury.

You know him better than I do. I just noticed that he pitched a heck of a lot of innings last year, and nothing changed in the playoffs. I would guess that teams that go farther in the playoffs have a harder time coming back next year in top shape...I'm not surprised to see the White Sox staff struggle a bit.

If the Yankees speculation comes true, I'm betting we see Eric Duncan and Shawn Chacon involved.

Perhaps even Melky.

Lidle could be a boost to our staff though and we aren't going to give up anything more than a package centered around Clippard or maybe J. Brent Cox to get them so I wouldn't whine about this deal.
If Cashman gives up Clippard or Cox in this deal he's an idiot. Abreu gets on base,but that's about all he does. He's a downgrade over Melky in the field and his offensive numbers drop alot away from the hitters paradise he plays in heck he only has something like 5 hr's on the road since the All Star break last year. And Lidle is pretty much the same as the Wright's and Chacon's of the world he has an era of 4.74 in the NL which equates to about 5.5-6 in the AL.

Abreu to the Yankees is looking like a near-done deal, according to ESPN radio

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Just like "Soriano as good as gone to the White Sox" a few days ago. ESPN is horrible.

It looks like Lidle and Abreu for C.J. Henry and Steven White.

that may be the worst trade cashman has made, even without giving up anything special. abreu has basically become a shell of his former self, lidle isn't much, if at all, better than jaret wright. meanwhile...the yanks pick up bobby a's ginormous contract? eesh.

that may be the worst trade cashman has made, even without giving up anything special. abreu has basically become a shell of his former self, lidle isn't much, if at all, better than jaret wright. meanwhile...the yanks pick up bobby a's ginormous contract? eesh.
It's far from Cashman's worst trade. He's basically getting Abreu for free--Henry has a lot of potential but he's 18 years old (if I'm not mistaken) and we already have Jeter at shortstop and Vechionacci in the minors. White is alright but nothing to write home about.

Lidle may not be anything special but he is better than Jaret Wright (he can pitch more than 5 innings, which Wright physically can't do) and, more importantly, he is much better than Sidney Ponson.


If the Yankees speculation comes true, I'm betting we see Eric Duncan and Shawn Chacon involved.
Perhaps even Melky.

The only way that Duncan or Cabrera gets moved is for starting pitching. And good starting pitching at that--maybe if Cleveland decides to sell Jake Westbrook at the last minute a package could be made up around Duncan or Cabrera (or both.)

Is Lidle a free agent? I'm really miffed why the Yanks would even want him. He is as inconsistent as they come.

Link from Fox detailing the Abreu sweepstakes: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5829932

I know Abreu isnt putting up monster stats but its not like hes having a terrible year, he is still on pace for a dozen homers and 100 rbis, and who's to say its not just an off year, Mike Lowell was looked upon as a corpse going into this season and he has rebounded nicely

Espn.com has a tenative deal has been reached between the yankees and phillies.

Not a bad move at all for the yankees...

Updated: July 30, 2006, 1:56 PM ET

ESPN.com news services:
The Philadelphia Phillies and New York Yankees have a tentative deal to send Phillies right fiedler Bobby Abreu and pitcher Cory Lidle to New York ESPN.com's Buster Olney reported Sunday.

ESPN.com's Jayson Stark reported the Yankees will send 18-year-old minor-league shrotstop C.J. Henry -- their No. 1 pick in 2005 -- and 27-year-old left-handed reliever Matt Smith. The Phillies will also pick one other minor-leauge player from an agreed-upon list, while the Yankees will take on responsibility for Abreu and Lidle's contracts.

the Yankees will pay Abreu close to $37 million over the next 2½ years.

This is like Bizarro Christmas: Give all of your crap away

Woohoo!!

Apparently the Bo Sox are close acquiring Julio Lugo. All they are witing for is for Lugo to agree to play 2B.

Espn.com has a tenative deal has been reached between the yankees and phillies.

Not a bad move at all for the yankees...

Except for the 17 million they're paying Abreu next year.

Apparently the Bo Sox are close acquiring Julio Lugo. All they are witing for is for Lugo to agree to play 2B.

2nd base? Don't they already have Loretta? Or are they trading him? Or is there something else I know nothing about?

I don't know why they want to replace Loretta, but they do.

Except for the 17 million they're paying Abreu next year.
He's owed 15 million for next year and Sheffield's option is for 13 million which more than likely won't be picked up now so it's pretty much a wash as far as money goes.

He's owed 15 million for next year and Sheffield's option is for 13 million which more than likely won't be picked up now so it's pretty much a wash as far as money goes.

except sheffield, when healthy, is the much more productive, dangerous player.

except sheffield, when healthy, is the much more productive, dangerous player.
Yes he is,but he's also going to be 38 next season and coming of an injury so who knows how much production he has left in him.

Yes he is,but he's also going to be 38 next season and coming of an injury so who knows how much production he has left in him.

Sheffield on a terrible year still can beat out 13 HRs, which is what Bobby Abreu is projected to hit this year. Abreu's HR swing is tailored for left-center field, he's going to have a little shock when most of his flyballs that way, that would have been in the 2nd row in Citizens Bank Park, end up in the center fielder's glove.

Sheffield on a terrible year still can beat out 13 HRs, which is what Bobby Abreu is projected to hit this year. Abreu's HR swing is tailored for left-center field, he's going to have a little shock when most of his flyballs that way, that would have been in the 2nd row in Citizens Bank Park, end up in the center fielder's glove.
I didn't know Abreu had a HR swing anymore;) Looking at his hitting chart most of his hits at CBP this year were to center and right field with only 15 of his 47 hits there going to left center or left.

As an outsider looking in, it would seem Abreu would be perfect for Yankee stadium. The right field porch is ridiculously close...

Sheffield is undeniably more productive, but his injury was a major wrist injury. Everyone knows Sheffield's power is reliant on his bat speed and amazing hands...he is likely not going to be worth anything for the rest of the year...I guess the Yankees "could" pick up his option, but I seriously doubt they would.

Abreu will be the Yankees RF in 2007.

Sox acquire Bryan Corey from Texas for minor leaguer Luis Mendoza

Corey's 32 and only has 18 major league innings under his belt, but his numbers to date against lefties are downright nasty. His splits away from that hitter's park in Arlington are pretty good too.

If this makes them DFA Seanez, then it's addition by subtraction.

except sheffield, when healthy, is the much more productive, dangerous player.

he is but the yankees are better off without the "other" stuff that sheffield brings. I can live with Abreu over Sheffield in 2007 and than moving on in another direction if Abreu totally sucks. Lidle is the overlooked guy in the trade and he adds depth to a rotation the needs it.

this was a good trade for the yankees plus they kept hughes and tabata who would seem are part of the future in new york (although anything is possible with the yankees)

Sheffield on a terrible year still can beat out 13 HRs, which is what Bobby Abreu is projected to hit this year. Abreu's HR swing is tailored for left-center field, he's going to have a little shock when most of his flyballs that way, that would have been in the 2nd row in Citizens Bank Park, end up in the center fielder's glove.
Just ask Tino Martinez--"Ambulance Alley" (left centerfield at Yankee Stadium) is very forgiving to left handed power hitters.

Abreu theoretically is a perfect fit for Yankee Stadium.

2nd base? Don't they already have Loretta? Or are they trading him? Or is there something else I know nothing about?


There were rumours of Mark Loretta going to the Cardinals but now I doubt that happens since the Cards acquired Ronnie Belliard this afternoon.

There were rumours of Mark Loretta going to the Cardinals but now I doubt that happens since the Cards acquired Ronnie Belliard this afternoon.

yeah Big names flying out left and right i wonder what putz Ricciardi is gettin

yeah Big names flying out left and right i wonder what putz Ricciardi is gettin

I remember several years ago.. the Jays were suppose to be good but weren't. Free agent acquisitions like Randy Myers were busts. The jays sold off players, inluding Myers, and then proceeded to get really hot and within 3 games of top spot in the last week of the season.

Simply put. The team is best off not paying the farm to acquire anyone. Let it ride. And if the right offer comes along for a Lilly or Molina or someone.. deal them.

I remember several years ago.. the Jays were suppose to be good but weren't. Free agent acquisitions like Randy Myers were busts. The jays sold off players, inluding Myers, and then proceeded to get really hot and within 3 games of top spot in the last week of the season.

Simply put. The team is best off not paying the farm to acquire anyone. Let it ride. And if the right offer comes along for a Lilly or Molina or someone.. deal them.

YEah exactly im with Lilly or Molina gone, Zaun has been very good behind the dish and Phillips well yeah........nothin there what happened to all these catchers for the jays that were suppose to be good

YEah exactly im with Lilly or Molina gone, Zaun has been very good behind the dish and Phillips well yeah........nothin there what happened to all these catchers for the jays that were suppose to be good

The catchers have been good imo. Molina and Zaun have put up solid numbers. I think Molina takes a lot of flack about his speed but everyone knew he was slow. I just think if we can get something decent for Molina... Zaun is capable. I do wonder though about Zaun's ability to be a starter consistently but there is only one way to find out.

Steve Phillips is now reporting that the Rays and Red Sox may be swapping Mark Loretta straight up for Julio Lugo.


***??? That would absolutely pointless for the Rays.

Steve Phillips is now reporting that the Rays and Red Sox may be swapping Mark Loretta straight up for Julio Lugo.


***??? That would absolutely pointless for the Rays.

Unless they swapped Loretta elsewhere.. would there really be much point for the Sox either? Lugo isn't really that much of an upgrade.

Unless they swapped Loretta elsewhere.. would there really be much point for the Sox either? Lugo isn't really that much of an upgrade.

yeah, i don't see the point myself, considering loretta has played pretty well for the sox.

Jayson Stark reports the Mets are hot on the trail of Jason Schmidt. If it involves Milledge, do it. The Giants are going nowhere, Schmidt will likely leave at the end of the season, you get a top prospect + a starter from free agency (possibly Zito).

Jayson Stark reports the Mets are hot on the trail of Jason Schmidt. If it involves Milledge, do it. The Giants are going nowhere, Schmidt will likely leave at the end of the season, you get a top prospect + a starter from free agency (possibly Zito).

There's no way Schmidt brings back Milledge. Milledge was apparently a big reason the Mets had no real interest in Zito. They're not saying, "we'll give Milledge for any good starter."

Willis was the only one who was a possible play for Milledge+.

Apparently the Angels and Astros are out of the Tejada bidding. The Astros were apparently offering up a package that included Oswalt, Ensberg and Everett, but Angelos kept refusing proposals, and the Astros might've pulled Oswalt out because of fear that Baltimore would swap send him to Texas for Blalock. No reason on why the Angels are reportedly done, but probably because Angelos keeps vetoing deals.

Angelos is an idiot. With the Angels, he could've made his rotation an awesome one for years to come(with Santana and another pitching prospect going his way), and gotten Aybar to replace Tejada. With Houston, he could've gotten a quality starter. Why veto them? Both were very good deals. I don't know what he's thinking.

Unless they swapped Loretta elsewhere.. would there really be much point for the Sox either? Lugo isn't really that much of an upgrade.
.149 OPS points is a pretty significant upgrade, along with improved defense.

Apparently the Angels and Astros are out of the Tejada bidding. The Astros were apparently offering up a package that included Oswalt, Ensberg and Everett, but Angelos kept refusing proposals, and the Astros might've pulled Oswalt out because of fear that Baltimore would swap send him to Texas for Blalock. No reason on why the Angels are reportedly done, but probably because Angelos keeps vetoing deals.

Angelos is an idiot. With the Angels, he could've made his rotation an awesome one for years to come(with Santana and another pitching prospect going his way), and gotten Aybar to replace Tejada. With Houston, he could've gotten a quality starter. Why veto them? Both were very good deals. I don't know what he's thinking.

If Oswalt was included in the proposal, I would be completley shocked to see the deal not accepted. If the rumor was Mark Prior in the offseason, Roy Oswalt DURING the season to go along with two solid infielders seems like a huge deal in the Orioles favor.

I doubt that rumor is true.

I think I'd be surprised to see the A's make any moves right now. All indications are pointing to the A's keeping Zito unless they get some kind of great offer today, which I think is unlikely. Looks like we'll hold on to him and get the picks when he signs elsewhere in the off season.

Sean Casey to the Tigers

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2535130

Rheal Cormier has been traded to the Reds.

Mets interest in Schmidt cools, now talking to Houston about Oswalt:

http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/mets_made_pitch_for_schmidt_mets_.htm

Rheal Cormier has been traded to the Reds.

Any Philly fans out there willing to say if he's been as good as his numbers look?

The Reds also picked up Kyle Lohse from the Twins for a minor leaguer.

Sean Casey to the Tigers

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2535130

I like this move alot. A 3 time all star and career .300+ left handed bat that does not strike out much and can field the position well. Plus the Tigers did not give up one of their top prospects. Big upgrade over Chris Shelton.

Anybody hear any rumors regarding Soriano or any other big names? Doesn't seem like anyone's talkin

In my opinion, Soriano will stay with the nats. Bowden doesn't seem to want to deal Sori. He'd like to sign him longterm but I know, he's having a fluke year. They signed Livan and Vidro to long term deals when they were having solid seasons. Look, how they're performin' now.

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9579568

A's enter the Soriano sweepstakes. Apparently them, Minnesota and LAAAAAAA are the finalists.

The Los Angeles Angels, Minnesota Twins and a surprise team -- the Oakland Athletics -- have emerged as the three finalists in the Alfonso Soriano chase with less than five hours to go until Monday's 4 p.m. ET, sources with knowledge of the negotiations told CBS SportsLine.com.

Washington Nationals general manager Jim Bowden is believed in the final stages of negotiations with each of those three clubs and is expected to move Soriano today -- with a conclusion expected to push right up against the deadline.

The article also mentions that the A's could swing Soriano to another team as part of a three way deal.

Should be an interesting afternoon.

any blue jays rumours floating around? i've heard talk about them acquiring lugo. anything else?

Read on another site that the Red Sox are apparently after Andruw Jones. Crisp, Hanson and prospects would go the other way.

Read on another site that the Red Sox are apparently after Andruw Jones. Crisp, Hanson and prospects would go the other way.

Gotta love the Sox and Yankees doing something.

Read on another site that the Red Sox are apparently after Andruw Jones. Crisp, Hanson and prospects would go the other way.
Schuerholz asked for Jon Lester back, so Theo Epstein promptly hung up on him.

Any Philly fans out there willing to say if he's been as good as his numbers look?

He's been really good in spite of the fact that the "manager" of the Phillies would use him in awful situations. You'll like him. Plus, every player traded away from a Philly sports team will go through a period of athletic re-birth, during which he will become a force. Happens everytime.

Schuerholz asked for Jon Lester back, so Theo Epstein promptly hung up on him.

Would you like Jorge Sosa as well.

:cry: :biglaugh:

I can't decide which is worse - that we actually tried Jorge Sosa at closer, or that I may actually have to watch Andruw Jones be traded. It would make sense that Andruw is moved due to his agent (See Scott Boras) and his impending free agency (I believe he has 1 more year left on his deal after this year, at 13 million...)

any blue jays rumours floating around? i've heard talk about them acquiring lugo. anything else?

I heard the Jays were out of the Lugo running.

One I read this morning was:

BOS: Julio Lugo, Scott Linebrink
SD: Mike Lowell
TB: Obligatory prospects

If Oswalt was included in the proposal, I would be completley shocked to see the deal not accepted. If the rumor was Mark Prior in the offseason, Roy Oswalt DURING the season to go along with two solid infielders seems like a huge deal in the Orioles favor.

I doubt that rumor is true.

Ken Rosenthal was reporting it. I don't have the link, but PSD does.

Anyway, Houston offered up Oswalt, and there was some talk that they backed out because they feared Oswalt would head to Texas, but, it seems that Angelos indeed just refused to accept the trade. I suppose it's because Oswalt will likely only stick around for the next year, but, even so, it's the best deal he could get for Tejada, or, they could get an amazing package of prospects from the Angels. But, the guy's an idiot. He is most certainly ruining that team.

Rotoworld now reporting that the Dodgers have the inside track on Soriano...the A's propsal was turned down. :(

Red Sox reportedly talking with Lugo's agent about a contract extension, which means a deal may be in place

Red Sox reportedly talking with Lugo's agent about a contract extension, which means a deal may be in place

From rotoworld:

If that's the case, Boston and Tampa Bay must have agreed on the players in a deal that may or may not include additional teams. Lugo was believed to be asking for $40 million over five years from the Rays.

Red Sox reportedly talking with Lugo's agent about a contract extension, which means a deal may be in place

He wants to get paid as a SS(8$per) which would mean Agone is Gonzo if Lugo gets that deal....if he can he picked up for 5yrs 28-30$ then i can see him at 2nd

Jayson Stark has Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez heading to the Mets.

Edit: Xavier Nady going to Pittsburgh.

Jayson Stark has Roberto Hernandez and Oliver Perez heading to the Mets.

For Xavier Nady...
Could be an awesome deal for the Mets
Hernandez is another arm in the pen and Perez if he gets his **** together is a 17win 225k guy in the future

I just saw on mlbtraderumors that Dunar Sanchez is out for the season with a broken collarbone, so the Mets definitely need to make a move for a reliever. Makes sense for the Mets to make a move for Hernandez and nab a high potential starter in Oliver Perez before the deadline.

In today's shortstop market, 8 million for Lugo is really not that bad of a deal at all.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

Looks like we're getting Kip Wells. Bad ERA, but he had a blood clot in his arma nd has been very good since being treated. Can't be worse than Snyder/Johnson/Clement/Gabbard. I like that move.

Wells is really hard to read...he's had a miserable couple years, but he always shows those flashes of brilliance.

He's a good pitcher who needs a change of scenery...I just hate the fact it'll be with Boston. Hopefully the return is equivelant to what we stole from you guys in the Suppan deal...more than likely Littlefield will just continue to hoarde AA relievers.


Oliver Perez & Roberto Hernandez traded to the Mets for Xavier Nady...ironic considering we almost got Nady in the deal that brought Perez here in the first place...we "settled" on Jason Bay instead. Perez has been nothing short of godawful since opening day last year. The guy allowed 8 ER in 1/3 of an inning his last appearance for AAA Indianapolis. Still...if he ever turns it around this will be one of the most one-sided deals in recent memory...up there with every other Littlefield deal.

ESPN is saying we got Todd Walker for a 19 year old prospect pitcher. And there was much rejoicing.

The Everyman's hero, Matthew Wade Stairs traded to Texas.

The guy allowed 8 ER in 1/3 of an inning his last appearance for AAA Indianapolis. Still...if he ever turns it around this will be one of the most one-sided deals in recent memory...up there with every other Littlefield deal.


wow i was wondering why his AAA era was well over 5

wow i was wondering why his AAA era was well over 5


Because he can't throw strikes, lost about 10 MPH off his fastball, has zero confidence, can't throw a slider anymore, and slept with the statistician's girlfriend.


Watching him in 2004...and watching him in 2005...and in 2006...it's like watching Randy Johnson quickly turn into Jimmy Anderson.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5832938

Wells is a Ranger not a Red Sox.

Good job ESPNews...say he's a Red Sox and then 10 minutes later he's traded to the Rangers.

To Pirates: Shawn Chacon
To Yankees: Craig Wilson

To Pirates: Shawn Chacon
To Yankees: Craig Wilson

Wow. The Yankees got Wilson for Chacon?

Surprised the Jays didnt add an impact player(as of now) but i gotta say the Yankees offense is maybe the scariest and deepest ive seen assuming Matsui and Sheff come back in early september and get there timing back for the playoffs
Bernie Williams and Craig Wilson off the bench is tough to counter, why not go add Jason Kendall to back up Posada and Jose Vidro to back up Cano

Uggh...The Sox do NOTHING at the deadline, meanwhile the Yankees get to trade their CRAP for decent players? *** is with that?

Uggh...The Sox do NOTHING at the deadline, meanwhile the Yankees get to trade their CRAP for decent players? *** is with that?

Who knows if they did nothing? Trades will continue to trickle in over the course of the next hour, just like the NHL deadline back in March.

Just wait, more deals will be coming in. I have to respect George for knowing how to get what he wants when he wants it.

I saw reports that Perez and Heath Bell were flipped for Scott Linebrink...

If true, what a good deal for Omar!

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/

I love how Steve Phillips acts like he is in Jim Bowden's mind. "Now, Jim Bowden has taken some offers and is neogeotiating what more he can get for Alfonso Soriano." ... "Now Jim Bowden is calling the MLB office with some offers to see if they'll suit the new ownership" ... "Now, Jim Bowden is narrowing down the teams to 2 or 3, probably Angels, Mets and White Sox, but the Marlins, Tigers and Twins are all involved too so we'll see." ... "Now, Jim Bowden is finalizing whatever deal he has made, okaying it with the MLB office, and is getting ready to make the phone call." ... "Now Jim Bowden just got up because he needed to deficate."



Guess what. Soriano wasn't dealt :biglaugh:

God it's depressing being a Pirates fan.


The worst team in baseball did a damn good job getting markedly worst.

We Trade
Sean Casey
Craig Wilson
Kip Wells
Roberto Hernandez
Oliver Perez

We Get
Godawful starter
Average outfielder
Two nobody minor league relievers

Maddux to LA. Ken Rosenthal has something up on Foxsports.com.

Looks like the Padres pitching coach will have his hands full w/ Peavy and now Perez going through serious issue

I saw reports that Perez and Heath Bell were flipped for Scott Linebrink...

If true, what a good deal for Omar!

Kinda puzzled from the Padres' perspective. I know we were always high on Perez, but this seems like a move I would make during the offseason.

God it's depressing being a Pirates fan.


The worst team in baseball did a damn good job getting markedly worst.

We Trade
Sean Casey
Craig Wilson
Kip Wells
Roberto Hernandez
Oliver Perez

We Get
Godawful starter
Average outfielder
Two nobody minor league relievers


On the brightside you have the nicest park in the game....to bad itll be 85% empty:sarcasm:

Maddux to LA. Ken Rosenthal has something up on Foxsports.com.

Cubs get Izturis.

The worst team in baseball did a damn good job getting markedly worst.

We Trade
Sean Casey
Craig Wilson
Kip Wells
Roberto Hernandez
Oliver Perez

We Get
Godawful starter
Average outfielder
Two nobody minor league relievers

Not like any of the players you gave up were really going to command huge returns.....

The Padres should have just traded for Wilson Betemit....and not dealt for Walker.

If the Yankees can get Wilson for Shawn ****ing Chacon, we certainly could've gotten somethign for Tavarez or Seanez...

SF does nothing. Very surprising.:sarcasm: The least they could have done is get something for Schmidt.

The Padres should have just traded for Wilson Betemit....and not dealt for Walker.

Apparently the Braves simply preferred Aybar and Baez over Linebrink. Personally not a huge fan of Betemit and obviously Walker is just another band-aid. On the bright side, at least we didn't get Aaron Boone.

Lugo to the Dodgers.

I love this. We are getting everything.

SF does nothing. Very surprising.:sarcasm: The least they could have done is get something for Schmidt.

They'll let him go in free agency and get a sandwich first rounder when Schmidt signs with the Mariners. And then Brian Sabean will be puzzled since he'll have a high pick two years in a row.

They'll let him go in free agency and get a sandwich first rounder when Schmidt signs with the Mariners. And then Brian Sabean will be puzzled since he'll have a high pick two years in a row.

The only bright thing about this season is looking forward to the offseason. 40 million to spend just from our 3 starting OFs go, and around 15 more from Schmidt and Durham leaving.

Lugo to the Dodgers.

Kent is a UFA next year?

The only bright thing about this season is looking forward to the offseason. 40 million to spend just from our 3 starting OFs go, and around 15 more from Schmidt and Durham leaving.

Most of my Giants friends seemed resigned to the fact that Peter McGowan won't reinvest most of that freed up money.

Kent is a UFA next year?

Kent signed an extension, so he's under contract through next year. Here's the link that:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2388812

As for the Julio Lugo trade, the deal is:
LAD: Lugo
TB: Joel Guzman and Sergio Pedroza

Or at least so says my buddy who is watching ESPNews.

According to the previously-posted blog, Jeremy Affeldt and Denny Bautista are Colorado Rockies, while Ryan Shealy will be heading to K.C.

As for the Julio Lugo trade, the deal is:
LAD: Lugo
TB: Joel Guzman and Sergio Pedroza
That sucks. He may be flipped, so I'll wait.

Most of my Giants friends seemed resigned to the fact that Peter McGowan won't reinvest most of that freed up money.

I think he will. Sabean and Alou are history, IMO, after this season. With Bonds' contract off the books, I think the Giants finally will be able to put together a balanced team, not built around 1 player.

However, I can never forgive Magowan for not signing Vlad Guerrero after 2003. He created some BS about how he didn't have the funds (:biglaugh: ), and even though Vlad wanted to play for Felipe Alou, Magowan pissed away the Giants last year chance at a WS.

Where are the Dodgers gonna play Lugo?? :dunno:
I know Kent is injured, but hes due back this year no?

Where are the Dodgers gonna play Lugo?? :dunno:
I know Kent is injured, but hes due back this year no?

DH....oh wait

This just in: Bowden demands to much and ends up not making a trade....again. :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Why are the Dodgers buyers?

Its baffling, this team is alot more than Lugo and a washed up Maddux away from contending.

Although I guess the Maddux deal isn't all that bad, since Izturis likely will never be the player he was before the surgery.

Why are the Dodgers buyers?

Its baffling, this team is alot more than Lugo and a washed up Maddux away from contending.

Although I guess the Maddux deal isn't all that bad, since Izturis likely will never be the player he was before the surgery.

Look at ther division :biglaugh:
Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen.

This just in: Bowden demands to much and ends up not making a trade....again. :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
I want him to have a meltdown at a press conference, and then have Soriano pull a John Chaney and say "I'll KILL YOU, I'll KILL you, you son of a *****."

Too bad that won't happen, and too bad it didn't come out as funny as it seemed in my head.

The Angels better hope that Kendrick and Rivera can keep hitting like this for the rest of the season, its our only chance.

Stoneman really needed to get someone.

The Angels better hope that Kendrick and Rivera can keep hitting like this for the rest of the season, its our only chance.

Stoneman really needed to get someone.

In all fairness, if the Tejada rumours were true....he tried in a major way, and Bowden is....well Bowden :biglaugh:

Look at ther division :biglaugh:
Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen.

San Diego is still a decent team. And Arizona is ok.

No way is the NL West as big a joke as the NL East.

People can laugh and say how the AL and NL West have no teams better than a few games over .500. But there also aren't god awful teams like Kansas City,Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Cleveland and the Cubs to beat up on.

San Diego is still a decent team. And Arizona is ok.

No way is the NL West as big a joke as the NL East.

People can laugh and say how the AL and NL West have no teams better than a few games over .500. But there also aren't god awful teams like Kansas City,Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Cleveland and the Cubs to beat up on.

Im not knocking the division, however you can win that division and be under .500

Thus your allowed to be buyers come deadline day

I don't see how the Dodgers are NOT buyers. Look at their lineup when healthy, that lineup can beat any team in the NL (but not the Cards for some reason) on any given night. The pitching rotation is not good, but they have 2 pitchers who have proven that they can perform in the playoffs. So what's the problem? Every other team in the division has flaws, most of the flaws are much worse with the others.

In all fairness, if the Tejada rumours were true....he tried in a major way, and Bowden is....well Bowden :biglaugh:

I am happy the Tejada trade didn't go down, at first I wanted it, but after talking with some friends we all came to the same conclusion that it would be stupid to trade 24 year old Santana, who is well on his way to being a #1 starter, + a Top 50 Prospect in Aybar for Miguel Tejada. It would have made the Angels better now...but we're perfectly happy with Weaver and Santana anchoring the staff for a long time.

It would be one of those deals that haunts you down the road.

I'm happy management in Baltimore are a bunch of morons.

I knew, Soriano wasn't going anywhere (damn Bowden and Kasten).

The Lugo trade makes no sense. Joel Guzman might not have had a position with the Dodgers, but they could have gotten more for him. Lugo will have no position to play in about 2 weeks.

The Maddux trade does, but I'll miss Little Cesar and Maddux will be of NO help in the playoffs (as usual) even if the Dodgers make the playoffs (Big IF).

Derek Lowe better get his head out of his a$$ soon.

SF does nothing. Very surprising.:sarcasm: The least they could have done is get something for Schmidt.

why trade their ace when they are chasing the division title?

why trade their ace when they are chasing the division title?

Oakland and SF were in the same situation.

Basically if the package was right [Milledge++] they'd do it since they know they're losing Schmidt/Zito in the offseason. Obviously the Mets weren't prepared to deal Milledge for a rental, so neither Schmidt or Zito were dealt.

I saw reports that Perez and Heath Bell were flipped for Scott Linebrink...


Whew, apparently not true. Now if only Linebrink could get back on track.......

why trade their ace when they are chasing the division title?

Because anyone following the team realistically knows this team is not good enough to win the World Series, and isn't that the goal of every MLB team?

I think that Omar Minaya totally got Paul DePodesta'd with the Linebrink trade. There's no doubt in my mind that he aquired Oliver Perez with the sole intention of spinning him to San Diego, but now he got left holding the bag without Xavier Nady, one of his best producers on offense.

I wanted pitching for Lugo but I will gladly take Guzman.

I think that Omar Minaya totally got Paul DePodesta'd with the Linebrink trade. There's no doubt in my mind that he aquired Oliver Perez with the sole intention of spinning him to San Diego, but now he got left holding the bag without Xavier Nady, one of his best producers on offense.

Depo is part the Padres organization now...........

Because anyone following the team realistically knows this team is not good enough to win the World Series, and isn't that the goal of every MLB team?

let's wait until the playoffs before. If you get there anything can happen. Teams can get hot, pitchers can get hot. God knows if you're pitching simply gets hot at the right time you could win the whole thing

Depo is part the Padres organization now...........
Well that's pleasantly ironic.

Nice to see the Jays did something :sarcasm:

Astros...what was the point in keeping Clemens? If you're keeping him, why not add?:dunno: Really tough road back just became close to impossible.:madfire: at least we still have our kids.:help:

Nice to see the Jays did something :sarcasm:



We feel your pain.

In all fairness, if the Tejada rumours were true....he tried in a major way, and Bowden is....well Bowden :biglaugh:

I did more than Stoneman did to get Tejada. He didn't want to deal the prospects, so Moreno took over. Stoneman's a clown, and I hope Moreno fires his ***.

I kind of hoped that we'd get Tejada. Santana and Aybar are good prospects, but Weaver could've been our future ace, and Aybar was never going to start for the Angels, unless he made a position change. But, it won't likely happen now. Oh well. We get to have Santana and Weaver for a long time, and Aybar will either by a great Plan B or a great bargaining chip.

Speaking of clowns, what is Jim Bowden thinking? There is almost no way Soriano is going to stay in Washington unless they give him a massive contract, so why not get something for him? Also, with the waiver-trade deadline, is it that if another team has a deal, and another team puts in a waiver claim, then the only team that player can be dealt to is the one that put in the claim. If so, I hope some gets a deal done with Bowden in the coming weeks, and Stonehead puts in a claim. Then, if Bowden's desperate, we get Soriano for Aybar or even less.

You're assuming that Soriano makes it through waivers

Players have to clear waivers in order to be dealt, and there's about a 0% chance that Soriano clears waivers.

I think that Omar Minaya totally got Paul DePodesta'd with the Linebrink trade. There's no doubt in my mind that he aquired Oliver Perez with the sole intention of spinning him to San Diego, but now he got left holding the bag without Xavier Nady, one of his best producers on offense.

Whoa there...

I am a huge Nady fan, and was sad to see him go...

..but in no way was Nady one of the best producers on offense. He was just ahead of Jose freaking Valentin, actually...and didn't get on base as much\wasn't as healthy.

This basically means Milledge will get a bunch of starts in right, with Endy getting the rest.

NY Radio...both stations...report that a deal WAS in place sending Milledge to Baltimore, Tejada to Houston and Oswalt to the Mets...but the Orioles had second thoughts and pulled out. Omar didn't confirm the who, but did confirm a "sizable three team deal" was out there for the Mets, but "one team withdrew."

The big thing is losing Sanchez for the year. He's been one of the best, most consistent set-up men in the league this year, and while Roberto Hernandez is decent and performed well for last season, he doesn't have the icewater that Sanchez does. Hopefully we don't count on him as much this season, with Feliciano and Bradford taking some of the pressure off.

Players have to clear waivers in order to be dealt, and there's about a 0% chance that Soriano clears waivers.

I am, what you say, not too familiar with the rules for this deadline. I thought it had something to do with if Fonsi's put on waivers, the team that makes the claim is the only one that can trade with the Nats, or something like that, but I guess I was wrong. I thought that because names like Randy Johnson and such were brought up in past years, and they don't sound like names that would clear waivers, either.

Actually, I do think you're right. The team that makes the claim has 2 days to make a trade. It's just most teams that put in claims have no intention of getting the player. They only do it in order to block the trade to someone else. If they clear waivers, they can trade with any team. A lot of teams pile up guys on waivers in hopes of sneaking guys through, because it's not something that's announced.

So, if Soriano is put on waivers, there's no way he'll clear it, and it's not likely that whoever claims him will get a trade together. Could happen, but I doubt it.

Though I don't remember Johnson being a waiver-wire trade, though. He went at the deadline to Houston.

Actually, I do think you're right. The team that makes the claim has 2 days to make a trade. It's just most teams that put in claims have no intention of getting the player. They only do it in order to block the trade to someone else. If they clear waivers, they can trade with any team. A lot of teams pile up guys on waivers in hopes of sneaking guys through, because it's not something that's announced.

So, if Soriano is put on waivers, there's no way he'll clear it, and it's not likely that whoever claims him will get a trade together. Could happen, but I doubt it.

Though I don't remember Johnson being a waiver-wire trade, though. He went at the deadline to Houston.

No, but a couple of years ago(just before he was NY bound) they kept talking about how the Yankees, Red Sox or Angels would acquire him on the waiver-wire.

As for Soriano, I think if a team like the Angels is making the claim, they'll make a trade happen. They need a bat, and career year or not, they could really use Soriano now. Other teams on the brink of contention could really use Soriano, too.

Whoa there...
NY Radio...both stations...report that a deal WAS in place sending Milledge to Baltimore, Tejada to Houston and Oswalt to the Mets...but the Orioles had second thoughts and pulled out. Omar didn't confirm the who, but did confirm a "sizable three team deal" was out there for the Mets, but "one team withdrew."


I was against moving Milledge in most of the proposed senarios, but for Oswalt I would have done it in a second. Damn that would have been sweet.

I don't understand the O's front office. Why where they even considering this deal over the one that the Angels proposed?

Shawn Chacon for Craig Wilson is the biggest steal of the day.

While I'm sort of upset the Sox didn't get a bullpen arm, I console myself in the fact that we retained all our young guys (Hansen, Delcarmen, Lester, and Papelbon)

As for Soriano, I think if a team like the Angels is making the claim, they'll make a trade happen. They need a bat, and career year or not, they could really use Soriano now. Other teams on the brink of contention could really use Soriano, too.
Seattle and Texas would almost certainly claim him before the Angels.

Actually, I do think you're right. The team that makes the claim has 2 days to make a trade. It's just most teams that put in claims have no intention of getting the player. They only do it in order to block the trade to someone else. If they clear waivers, they can trade with any team. A lot of teams pile up guys on waivers in hopes of sneaking guys through, because it's not something that's announced.

So, if Soriano is put on waivers, there's no way he'll clear it, and it's not likely that whoever claims him will get a trade together. Could happen, but I doubt it.

Though I don't remember Johnson being a waiver-wire trade, though. He went at the deadline to Houston.

The Jays tried to sneak Josh Phelps through waivers a few years ago and Cleveland put in a claim... they hadn't talked about anything but they ended up working a deal out after they put in the claim for Eric Crozier.. I mean its a minor deal but things do work out that way sometimes...

I know when the Jays dealt Randy Myers way back when he was done after the non-waiver deadline as well

I think that Omar Minaya totally got Paul DePodesta'd with the Linebrink trade.

***? Are you refering to the LoDuca/Penny trade? Let's all remember how Paul LoDuca led the Marlins to the playoffs that year, and how Guerrimo Mota was lights out down the stretch, and how meanwhile the Dodgers missed the playoffs. :sarcasm:

Speaking of clowns, what is Jim Bowden thinking? There is almost no way Soriano is going to stay in Washington unless they give him a massive contract, so why not get something for him? Also, with the waiver-trade deadline, is it that if another team has a deal, and another team puts in a waiver claim, then the only team that player can be dealt to is the one that put in the claim. If so, I hope some gets a deal done with Bowden in the coming weeks, and Stonehead puts in a claim. Then, if Bowden's desperate, we get Soriano for Aybar or even less.

Well the Nats will get a first round pick and a sandwich pick for Soriano if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. Same situation for the A's and Zito.

Well the Nats will get a first round pick and a sandwich pick for Soriano if he signs elsewhere in the offseason. Same situation for the A's and Zito.
I don't believe it's guranteed that they will receive a first-round pick, but it would most certainly be a pick in the first three rounds. They'll definitely get a first-second sandwich pick. If someone of the lower 15 teams signs one of these guys, they won't have to surrender their first-round pick. If KC for example, signs Zito, Oakland would have to settle for a lower round pick. The MLB compensation system is screwed up.

They must offer the player arbitration in order to receive compensation, something both teams will surely do. Zito and Soriano aren't going to accept one-year deals when they're looking to break the bank.

I know when the Jays dealt Randy Myers way back when he was done after the non-waiver deadline as well

Yuck. Kevin Towers was paranoid about the Braves getting Myers [we ended up beating them in 7 games] so he put in the waiver claim. But then we were saddled with his contract for the next two years....which sucked considering we let go most of our core after the World Series.

Perez has been nothing short of godawful since opening day last year. The guy allowed 8 ER in 1/3 of an inning his last appearance for AAA Indianapolis. Still...if he ever turns it around this will be one of the most one-sided deals in recent memory...up there with every other Littlefield deal.

Rick Peterson will help him along.

Seattle and Texas would almost certainly claim him before the Angels.

Just what I was thinking. The Jays will likely do the same to the Sox, and so on.

***? Are you refering to the LoDuca/Penny trade? Let's all remember how Paul LoDuca led the Marlins to the playoffs that year, and how Guerrimo Mota was lights out down the stretch, and how meanwhile the Dodgers missed the playoffs. :sarcasm:

Don't get your knickers in a twist. I'm just referencing how DePodesta made that entire deal for the sole purpose of spinning those pieces to Arizona for Randy Johnson, but the Diamondbacks backed out and he was stuck with the other pieces he'd aquired. They made the playoffs, but that team could've won the pennant before that deal.