Abreu, Lidle to the Yankees - Link

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2534459

I take it that the addition of another reliever means our bullpen will get traded away as well. So long.

Time to fumigate this club

So the Phillies wouldn't trade Abreu a week ago because they would have gotten no one off the Yankees roster...and now they give up Lidle and still do not.

Who the hell are all these guys?

The SS, C.J. Henry, I believe is the Yankees top prospect who, according to the always accurate and knowledgable NY sportsradio, was not going to traded under any circumstances - not even straight up for Willis.

The other guys - no fracking idea. I'm heading out in a little while so I'll see if I hear any "information" on the radio.

the yankees - incredible

Atleast Philly freed up some payroll to add someone at somepoint:dunno:
Lidle doesnt worry me as a Sox fan and Abreus power numbers are so down its ridiculous, but that lineup could be pretty scary if Sheff and Matsui come back healthy around September 1st

Damon
Jeter
Arod
Sheffield
Abreu
Matsui
Giambi
Posada
Cano

The SS, C.J. Henry, I believe is the Yankees top prospect who, according to the always accurate and knowledgable NY sportsradio, was not going to traded under any circumstances - not even straight up for Willis.

The other guys - no fracking idea. I'm heading out in a little while so I'll see if I hear any "information" on the radio.
Hughes is the Yankees top prospect that they refuse to trade. Henry has a high ceiling,but the Yankees got out of this deal without giving away any of their top prospects.

The SS, C.J. Henry, I believe is the Yankees top prospect who, according to the always accurate and knowledgable NY sportsradio, was not going to traded under any circumstances - not even straight up for Willis.
Well, that's certainly ridiculous. Duncan, Hughes, and Tabata are all ahead of him.

Hughes is the Yankees top prospect that they refuse to trade. Henry has a high ceiling,but the Yankees got out of this deal without giving away any of their top prospects.

Hughes - Henry, similar names :dunce:

The 3 youngsters I understand...

but why would Phillidalphia want a 27 year old AAA reliever?

Tom Gordon, Jon Lieber..next to go?

I'm hearing Lieber to the Rangers...

Lidle going into that rotation is the key. Abreu is just Trot Nixon without the defense(and more healthy due to his unwillingness to go balls to the wall to make the play). He'll be an alright 5 or 6 hitter for them until Sheffield and Matsui get back, but him being ESPN's focus is a joke.

Lidle is going to get mauled in the AL.

Another big addition for the Yanks. Basically takes the wind out of the Jays sails and gives them a shot to be tops in the division. I think this move puts the Yankees in the playoffs.

This deal was all about money as the only decent prospect involved was the SS and he wasn't even the Yankees best prospect...

This is a great deal for the Yankees basically because the Phillies gave us Abreu and Lidle for free. I would not have endorsed giving away anything major for another bat, but we got an all-star for basically one midlevel prospect.

Henry has a very high upside because of his freakish athleticism but is at least 4 years away from being a contributor in the majors, possibly longer. Smith can join your bullpen right way but he's not an effective LOOGY because he can't get his curveball over for strikes. The other two prospects are nothing special at all but you never know (remember Jason Bay was a no-name throw in prospect from the Mets before he his stardom in Pittsburgh.)

Still, it seems clear that Gillick was outmanuevered by Cashman, and badly. Everybody in baseball knew that he was going to come down on his price before long and credit the Yankees for waiting.

Still, it seems clear that Gillick was outmanuevered by Cashman, and badly. Everybody in baseball knew that he was going to come down on his price before long and credit the Yankees for waiting.


I agree with that assessment. The fact that the Phillies didn't even get a legitmate MLB player is putrid and unacceptable.

I agree with that assessment. The fact that the Phillies didn't even get a legitmate MLB player is putrid and unacceptable.

I agree. Not a very good deal for the Phillies, and even if Henry does turn out to be a stud, the value of the trade right now definitely leans torwards the Yankees. Henry is probably the 8th best prospect, if that, in the Yankees system....

Wow Yanks loaded up yet again lets see how it pays off in Oct.

Having seen Henry in person numerous times, I can tell you that he will never be a great MLB player, or even the caliber of an Abreu. He is gifted athletically, but he has no instinct. He can be taught to cut back his swing, and he can gain experience, but he doesn't have the instinct to go along with his natural talent to make him great. He's the only player worth anything that the Yankees gave up, but I don't ever see him panning out. So, with that said, an absolute heist by Cashman and co.

Having seen Henry in person numerous times, I can tell you that he will never be a great MLB player, or even the caliber of an Abreu. He is gifted athletically, but he has no instinct. He can be taught to cut back his swing, and he can gain experience, but he doesn't have the instinct to go along with his natural talent to make him great. He's the only player worth anything that the Yankees gave up, but I don't ever see him panning out. So, with that said, an absolute heist by Cashman and co.
Offensive instincts can be taught. Every day players have their swings deconstructed and rebuilt by talented coaches and the ability to choose what you swing at and learn to read a pitcher will also come with experience and good coaching.

You have to keep in mind that Henry just turned 20 years old last month. He's still 4 years at least away from the majors, and a lot can change between now and then.

That being said, he had no value to the Yankees.

Wow Yanks loaded up yet again lets see how it pays off in Oct.


You got that right ;)

Lidle is going to get mauled in the AL.

Seriously. It's funny to see a guy (EDIT: a starting pitcher, no less) the Reds gave up on go to the Yankees and be called a more integral part of the trade than Abreu.

Offensive instincts can be taught. Every day players have their swings deconstructed and rebuilt by talented coaches and the ability to choose what you swing at and learn to read a pitcher will also come with experience and good coaching.

You have to keep in mind that Henry just turned 20 years old last month. He's still 4 years at least away from the majors, and a lot can change between now and then.

That being said, he had no value to the Yankees.

Natural baseball instinct can not be taught, that's why it's natural. You're confusing instinct and coaching. Nearly every day I see 16 and 17 year old players that display an instinct. There's a reason C.J. Henry was a basketball player first, baseball player second. He could be a great basketball player, I can't imagine (and when I talk to colleagues, I know I'm not alone) him being a great, or even good, baseball player.