Andrea Bargnani

Russian_fanatic
10-15-2006, 01:13 AM
I've been keeping an eye on him since summer league. I'm not even a Toronto Raptors fan, but this kid is going to become a star. I say within 3 years this guy is going to be the Toronto Raptors franchise player(better than Chris Bosh). I think he has potential to be a big star in the NBA. He has an amazing shot, AMAZING mobility for someone his size, and he's so quick for a 7-0, also he has good defense, I remember in summer league he was guarding Rondo, Rondo tried crossing him over, but Bargs stayed on his feet, kept with him, and got a steal. Add to the fact he is 255 pounds he is going to be a beast in the future. Also he is not scared to shoot. He looks like veteran out there, if there is a shot he wants, he takes. The kid isn't raw either he was playing against MEN in the euroleague. His team won the whole euroleague tournament, and he was one of the main players on that team.

He's just so smooth for someone who is only 20 years old. A future superstar IMO.

Bruinaholic
10-15-2006, 03:15 PM
Toronto could be on too something if Bargnani turns out to be a Nowitzki type of player which alot of scouting reports predicted.

Chaos
10-15-2006, 04:44 PM
Toronto could be on too something if Bargnani turns out to be a Nowitzki type of player which alot of scouting reports predicted.

They said that about Tskitishvili too. Everyone is out to find the next Dirk. Problem is, you aren't going to find one.

Russian_fanatic
10-15-2006, 04:48 PM
They said that about Tskitishvili too. Everyone is out to find the next Dirk. Problem is, you aren't going to find one.

Tskitishvilli was ALL POTENTIAL, and that is where it ends. Tshikitvilli played less than 100 minutes in the euroleague, while Bargnani has played over 1,000 minutes, and was the go to guy on offense, and he was the guy they gave the ball to in the last minute.

Bargs was also rookie of the year in the euroleague. Nikoz was on the bench, while Bargs was a main clog on the 2005-2006 Benneton Treviso team.

BuppY
10-15-2006, 05:42 PM
They said that about Tskitishvili too. Everyone is out to find the next Dirk. Problem is, you aren't going to find one.

You could find someone who might turn out to be better also? right?

Dr.Funk
10-15-2006, 09:07 PM
I'm am a Raptors fan and if Bargs doesn't cut down on the fouls he is going to be hard pressed to get court time.


He needs to do a lot of developing to be even close to Bosh. I don't see it happening.

Russian_fanatic
10-16-2006, 12:11 AM
I'm am a Raptors fan and if Bargs doesn't cut down on the fouls he is going to be hard pressed to get court time.


He needs to do a lot of developing to be even close to Bosh. I don't see it happening.

Those where BS calls today. He had a CLEAN block, and they called a foul on him. Then he was standing up straight and a guy leans on him, and he gets the foul? Stupid officiating EVER. They're being hard on him because he is a rookie. Bargs doesn't have foul problems, it's these rookie refs they're playing in pre-season, and their needs to make a call to stand out.

Dr.Funk
10-16-2006, 12:26 AM
Those where BS calls today. He had a CLEAN block, and they called a foul on him. Then he was standing up straight and a guy leans on him, and he gets the foul? Stupid officiating EVER. They're being hard on him because he is a rookie. Bargs doesn't have foul problems, it's these rookie refs they're playing in pre-season, and their needs to make a call to stand out.


They had veteran refs today. One of them has been reffing for 19 years.

Russian_fanatic
10-16-2006, 12:54 AM
They had veteran refs today. One of them has been reffing for 19 years.

It was still stupid officiating in my eyes. You could clearly see on that one play it was a CLEAN block.

advantage2006
10-16-2006, 04:18 AM
Those where BS calls today. He had a CLEAN block, and they called a foul on him. Then he was standing up straight and a guy leans on him, and he gets the foul? Stupid officiating EVER. They're being hard on him because he is a rookie. Bargs doesn't have foul problems, it's these rookie refs they're playing in pre-season, and their needs to make a call to stand out.
Doesn't matter if he was a rookie,Bosh only had 2.9 fouls per game in his rookie season.

advantage2006
10-16-2006, 04:19 AM
I doubt he will be better than Bosh or the same player as Nowitzki.I see a better shooting Lamar Odom for him.

Alessandro Seren Rosso
10-16-2006, 06:31 AM
And for god's sake pronounce his name like it's supposed to be.

Not Barg-nani, but like barnhani like ronaldinho

Russian_fanatic
10-16-2006, 09:55 PM
And for god's sake pronounce his name like it's supposed to be.

Not Barg-nani, but like barnhani like ronaldinho

It's spelled Bargnani though.

Dr.Funk
10-17-2006, 12:18 AM
It's spelled Bargnani though.


Spelled Bargnani and pronounced Barg-yahn-nee. But I don't see how that matters on a message board.

TorontoSports
10-17-2006, 12:36 AM
You guys have an Absolute stud in Chris Bosh, so really, who cares about Bargnani?

After watching this video I am sold on the kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9w6OHokg

Bileur
10-17-2006, 12:50 AM
You guys have an Absolute stud in Chris Bosh, so really, who cares about Bargnani?

After watching this video I am sold on the kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9w6OHokg

Management seems to see Andrea as a possible future C. With his speed range, moves, playmaking, imagine the matchup problems.

Bargs-Bosh wouldnt offer very much D but man could they run and score.

helicecopter
10-17-2006, 08:41 AM
Spelled Bargnani and pronounced Barg-yahn-nee.WHAA?? :help:

Kidhander is Italian, what about trusting him about Bargnani's pronounce? He obviously got it right.

Bileur
10-18-2006, 01:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9w6OHokg

Sweet vid BTW, you cant help but feel for the kid when he walks off the court crying, the passion is palpable.

Cerebral
10-18-2006, 07:47 PM
Bargnani will be a solid player for the Raptors. He'll take some time to develop but I absolutely love what I have seen out of the kid so far. He has an unbelievable touch on his shot for a seven footer but it's his ability to drive that makes me think he'll be a big time scorer in the NBA. It sounds like the Raptors want to start him out at centre, he could succeed in that role on a running team.

Anthony Parker is the player who really interests me on the Raptors. I don't think he'll put up eye-popping stats for the Raptors this year but he looks like he could be a fantastic glue guy and defender at the 2 or 3 spot.

advantage2006
10-18-2006, 09:27 PM
You guys have an Absolute stud in Chris Bosh, so really, who cares about Bargnani?

After watching this video I am sold on the kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlT9w6OHokg
Fantastic Video.He's a class act,and loves to win.He's the future of the raps and no one and I mean no one can change that.I think he is the most underrated player in the league,and I believe he really will be the next Kevin Garnett.

Kardi
11-06-2006, 12:30 PM
would be nice if the kid gets some playing time.. mitchel is just hurting his progress

Dr.Funk
11-06-2006, 04:36 PM
would be nice if the kid gets some playing time.. mitchel is just hurting his progress



Bargnani is getting all the playing time he needs. He is still a project and should be brought alomng slowly. We don't want to burn him out for our playoff run(hopefully).

vancityluongo
11-08-2006, 07:12 PM
Chris Bosh good? I don't think so.

The next Dirk? No.

Solid player, 1-2 Punch with Bosh. Yeah

NoWeakness
11-28-2006, 02:02 PM
Bargnani really impressed me on Sunday when he came off the bench for like 22 points I think. Showing some good leadership on the court as well.

The Man in White
11-28-2006, 02:24 PM
Bargnani really impressed me on Sunday when he came off the bench for like 22 points I think. Showing some good leadership on the court as well.

14 points, 22 minutes. ;)

Dr.Funk
11-28-2006, 04:30 PM
Bargnani really impressed me on Sunday when he came off the bench for like 22 points I think. Showing some good leadership on the court as well.


Leadership?


Any leadership came from Bosh.

Scoogs
11-28-2006, 11:16 PM
Lovin' Andrea the Giant.

Vintage93
11-29-2006, 01:15 AM
14 points, 22 minutes. ;)

2 rebounds :help:


Another solid game tonight as well.

Ubiquitin
12-17-2006, 04:21 PM
After today's game i'm convinced he's the real deal,
18 points, 6 blocked shots and 5 offensive rebounds off the bench!, and his first nba double double

Jaysfanatic*
12-17-2006, 04:40 PM
After today's game i'm convinced he's the real deal,
18 points, 6 blocked shots and 5 offensive rebounds off the bench!, and his first nba double double

He's getting better with each game.....they're looking so good without Bosh.

Dr.Funk
12-18-2006, 08:19 PM
Andrea along with Garbajosa and Parker have been fantastic lately. Garbo and Parker have been excellent all season.

Ubiquitin
12-19-2006, 10:53 PM
Phoenix sure had their way of humbling the Raps to where they really belong tonight.

Damn, just when i thought the raps were moving up, and that even without bosh.

chaosrevolver
12-19-2006, 11:00 PM
Andrea along with Garbajosa and Parker have been fantastic lately. Garbo and Parker have been excellent all season.add Ford to that list. 14 assists, Toronto's mini Nash

Ubiquitin
12-20-2006, 12:49 AM
add Ford to that list. 14 assists, Toronto's mini Nash

He's good as long as he stays out of injury trouble

Dr.Funk
12-20-2006, 11:11 AM
He's good as long as he stays out of injury trouble


Ford went down last night, with a bruised back.

Jaysfanatic*
12-20-2006, 11:21 AM
Ford went down last night, with a bruised back.

To hear Ford tell it, it's a sore bum.

Ubiquitin
12-21-2006, 05:12 AM
To hear Ford tell it, it's a sore bum.

After the way he played tonight, i think he's just great.

BleedingOil
12-21-2006, 01:58 PM
Bargnani is the man.

Porn*
12-27-2006, 10:18 PM
ROY!!! hopefully :innocent:


great game tonight...

Dr.Funk
12-27-2006, 10:37 PM
ROY!!! hopefully :innocent:


great game tonight...


IMO Garbajosa should be ahead of Bargnani for ROY at this point.

Ubiquitin
12-28-2006, 04:32 PM
IMO Garbajosa should be ahead of Bargnani for ROY at this point.

And he is when you look at the rookie rankings

http://www.nba.com/rookies/rankings.html

oilworker94
12-28-2006, 06:56 PM
I think Bargnani will overtake Garbajosa for the rookie lead by the end of the season

mr gib
12-28-2006, 09:02 PM
read 07 seconds or less by jack mccallum - there's some great bit's in there on bryan colangelo - he just might build a winner in toronto

Nalyd Psycho
01-05-2007, 05:58 AM
Every time I see him take a jump shot I think, "Damn, that's smooth."

I'd be cautious to over hype him, but Bosh/Bargnani should be very tough to guard.

Dr.Funk
01-05-2007, 11:29 AM
Every time I see him take a jump shot I think, "Damn, that's smooth."

I'd be cautious to over hype him, but Bosh/Bargnani should be very tough to guard.


I'd like to see him use his legs a more when he shoots, but his upper body form is gorgeous.

took420s
01-05-2007, 04:19 PM
What did Raja Bell's kick to Bargnani look like? I see Bell was suspended for it.

I hate Raja Bell, dude is a punk and a cheapshot artist.

Dr.Funk
01-05-2007, 05:35 PM
What did Raja Bell's kick to Bargnani look like? I see Bell was suspended for it.

I hate Raja Bell, dude is a punk and a cheapshot artist.



Never seen it and haven't heard anybody talk about it until the suspension was announced today.

chaosrevolver
01-05-2007, 09:23 PM
basically Bargnani was looking for a pass and Bell dived and then from the floor kicked Bargnani in the nuts

The Man in White
01-06-2007, 01:56 PM
THAT PASS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAnSWCztlJc

Porn*
01-07-2007, 07:49 PM
another solid game by the giant....


imho he deserves ROY because of his age... i dont think 29yr old garbajosa deserves it... he's older, much much older... and played pro ball overseas.

Ubiquitin
01-08-2007, 05:09 AM
What did Raja Bell's kick to Bargnani look like? I see Bell was suspended for it.

I hate Raja Bell, dude is a punk and a cheapshot artist.

It was definately cheap, and kinda funny, he went for it and didnt connect, than tried to hide it so the officials wouldnt see.

Russian_fanatic
01-08-2007, 08:54 PM
That pass was AMAZING!!! No doubt what so ever to me that this kid is going to be a superstar in this league, IMO better than Bosh(I said it in the thread very early on). Such a nice basketball player, even at such a young age.

Porn*
01-08-2007, 09:40 PM
That pass was AMAZING!!! No doubt what so ever to me that this kid is going to be a superstar in this league, IMO better than Bosh(I said it in the thread very early on). Such a nice basketball player, even at such a young age.
even if he's just as good as bosh we've got a keeper ;)


i'm stoked about the future.

Jaysfanatic*
01-08-2007, 09:58 PM
In terms of Bosh v.s Bargnani, I'll have to say that Bosh will be the meaner defender and Bargs will score more points. Here's what I think in 4 years they'll stack up

Bosh 24.6 PPG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG and 8.2 RPG

Either way, we're extremely, uber lucky.

Bileur
01-08-2007, 10:24 PM
In terms of Bosh v.s Bargnani, I'll have to say that Bosh will be the meaner defender and Bargs will score more points. Here's what I think in 4 years they'll stack up

Bosh 24.6 PPG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG and 8.2 RPG

Either way, we're extremely, uber lucky.


Bargs will also have more blocks and assists.

Jaysfanatic*
01-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Bargs will also have more blocks and assists.

Alright, I'll update it to show those:
Bosh 24.6 PPG, 2.1 BPG, 3.3 APG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG, 3.7 BPG, 5.2 APG and 8.2 RPG

chaosrevolver
01-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Alright, I'll update it to show those:
Bosh 24.6 PPG, 2.1 BPG, 3.3 APG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG, 3.7 BPG, 5.2 APG and 8.2 RPGAdd that to 18 Points and 10 Assists by Ford and we have one hell of a team

Bileur
01-08-2007, 10:44 PM
Alright, I'll update it to show those:
Bosh 24.6 PPG, 2.1 BPG, 3.3 APG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG, 3.7 BPG, 5.2 APG and 8.2 RPG

Looks good, damn good. If we manage to get someone respectable in the 2-3 spots look out.

Jaysfanatic*
01-08-2007, 11:04 PM
Add that to 18 Points and 10 Assists by Ford and we have one hell of a team

If Ford keeps improving, I wouldn't be surprised in seeing

19.5 PPG, 11.1 APG, 4.5 Steals Per

That's three 20 point guys, and Colangelo drafts smart, so I think that'll work out well too.

Dr.Funk
01-09-2007, 12:47 AM
3.7 blocks per game would make Bargnani Defensive Player of the Year candidate and that ain't happening.


I don't see him developing into anything more than a second option on a team.

The Man in White
01-09-2007, 07:23 AM
In terms of Bosh v.s Bargnani, I'll have to say that Bosh will be the meaner defender and Bargs will score more points. Here's what I think in 4 years they'll stack up

Bosh 24.6 PPG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG and 8.2 RPG

Either way, we're extremely, uber lucky.

Bosh would be a rebounding machine. But Bargs, the better defender. I think Bargs will get about 7rebs a game with Bosh hogging all the rebounds. :D

Ubiquitin
01-10-2007, 12:18 PM
Alright, I'll update it to show those:
Bosh 24.6 PPG, 2.1 BPG, 3.3 APG and 13.9 RPG

Bargnani 27.8 PPG, 3.7 BPG, 5.2 APG and 8.2 RPG

He's been good and is showing definate growth, but 27.8 PPG is stretching it IMO, I see him more of a 20 PPG kinda guy.

chaosrevolver
01-10-2007, 03:54 PM
This what I think will happen.

Bosh 24ppg 5apg 13rpg 2bpg 1spg

Bargs 21ppg 6apg 7rpg 2bpg 2spg

Ford 18ppg 11apg 4rpg 0.3bpg 2.5spg

Dr.Funk
01-10-2007, 04:11 PM
This what I think will happen.

Bosh 24ppg 5apg 13rpg 2bpg 1spg

Bargs 21ppg 6apg 7rpg 2bpg 2spg

Ford 18ppg 11apg 4rpg 0.3bpg 2.5spg


The day Bosh averages 5 assists a game is the day that I have sex with Jessica Alba.

OvechWhoo
01-10-2007, 07:03 PM
Considering this draft looks to be full with busts, it looks like Colangelo and the Raps knew that this was their chance to take a chance. Judging by Bargnani's accelerating development and comfort level, he's not going to end up like a bum (Adam Morrison anyone?).

TorontoSports
01-11-2007, 12:08 AM
Bargnani is playing good, when I heard about this guy (after colangelo came into the scene) I wanted the Blazers to draft him. Aldrige has been pretty dissapointing so far, but Roy has been good.

chaosrevolver
01-11-2007, 03:52 PM
The day Bosh averages 5 assists a game is the day that I have sex with Jessica Alba.I assume you want that day to come then but anyway i meant 3 assists

Porn*
01-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Bosh 21.7pts 14reb 2.2blocks
Bargnani 23.8pts 7.8reb 1.7blocks

few more assists for bargs. 4-5 bosh 2-3

Bruinaholic
01-12-2007, 01:35 AM
If Ford keeps improving, I wouldn't be surprised in seeing

19.5 PPG, 11.1 APG, 4.5 Steals Per

That's three 20 point guys, and Colangelo drafts smart, so I think that'll work out well too.

Getting carried away are we:sarcasm:

Porn*
01-12-2007, 07:34 AM
Ford

17.6pts 11.7apg 2.9spg

Ubiquitin
01-12-2007, 06:34 PM
Im definately more excited about Ford than Bargnani

Dr.Funk
01-15-2007, 12:51 PM
Im definately more excited about Ford than Bargnani


Same here.

chaosrevolver
01-15-2007, 02:06 PM
Bargnani Is On Top Of Roy Report On Nba.com

Ubiquitin
01-15-2007, 10:22 PM
Bargnani finally made a move toward the net and worked without getting stripped, nice dunk last game.

The Man in White
01-15-2007, 11:22 PM
Bargnani finally made a move toward the net and worked without getting stripped, nice dunk last game.

He's so explosive off the dribble, but out of control. Once he learns to control himself, he'll be so deadly.