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Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 11-30-2003, 06:33 PM Though it's pretty obvious, with the Kings getting Straka, but fact is, Mike Comrie is ours to trade for.
I posted it before, and this looks alot like Fedorov. Kariya left, we were considered front runners for him. We got him. So now, it seems Comrie is going to be coming to Anaheim.
Nashville and Hotlanta are lesser contenders, but Nashville was offering mainly Arkipov, and he's doing great on the vowel line, and Waddell could get him, but if Edmonton doesn't want Stefan, he's got not much of a case.
There's always Detroit and other teams, but for now it seems, we should be seeing the #89 unveiled fairly soon in the Pond.
Jerky Leclerc 11-30-2003, 06:59 PM Without Lupul, the Oilers don't want anything to do with the Ducks. I highly doubt Comrie is coming to Anaheim anytime soon. I doubt Comrie is going anywhere anytime soon. Lowe is going to force Comrie to sit the year, just like Peca in Buffalo.
Kevin Forbes 11-30-2003, 07:01 PM I will believe it when I see it and not a minute sooner
I'm not convinced that Mike Comrie would be as much of a help as his pricetag in both players/prospects and salary may be...
I think we are doing fine without him and don't need him
And I will hesitate before calling any deal that gets Comrie in the eggplant and teal a good deal until after he plays some games.
Ducksfan2035 11-30-2003, 07:29 PM plus he hasnt played a game all season yet...he'll probly end up like dupuis and gaborik who havent been any good sense coming back...if lupul is all lowe wants then i say no..we're all set and everyone is gelled and by now have a feeling for each other
Snap Wilson 11-30-2003, 07:43 PM Enough about freakin' Comrie already. He's not coming here, and frankly, I don't want him.
I think the forwards we have right now are great. All three lines are developing some serious chemistry. The problem is we can't get the puck out of our zone for stretches at a time, and Comrie won't help there.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 07:54 PM http://www.jandjgifts.com/jandj/30130.jpg
mtyduk8 11-30-2003, 07:57 PM Enough about freakin' Comrie already. He's not coming here, and frankly, I don't want him.
Yeah, who wants a 23 year old kid who has already proven to be a legitimate scoring threat in the NHL? 53 goals & a 111 points in the last 2 years...who wants that on their team, especially a team that has had problem scoring?
If they Oilers will take Vishnevsky or Simpson for him...do the deal...if they'll take any prospect BESIDES Lupul...do the deal...
Comrie is the real deal...and we could use him....
And I personally do think he'll be a Duck.... :D
Ducksfan2035 11-30-2003, 08:05 PM i dont like the idea of him coming here when he hasnt played a game all season..i really could care less if comes or not..if he does then great,hope its worth but if not then i wont be all mad about it..whatever happens,happens
Snap Wilson 11-30-2003, 08:40 PM Yeah, who wants a 23 year old kid who has already proven to be a legitimate scoring threat in the NHL? 53 goals & a 111 points in the last 2 years...who wants that on their team, especially a team that has had problem scoring?
I'm aware of the resume, and gee, isn't it funny that Lowe didn't offer him more than the minimum raise? Granted, it was a ******** offer, but if Comrie, Mr. 23-year-old was considered that *****ing valuable, he would be signed by now.
And look around, teams still aren't banging down Lowe's door for him, even with Comrie offering to play for $500k just to show it's not about the money. Many people don't think that Comrie is as good as his numbers.
And we're having trouble scoring because.... what, a lack of talent? Who does Comrie take ice time away from? Sammy Pahlsson? Is it all his fault? We need to make a deal to upgrade our third line center? Please.
The question has to be answered how much having Comrie would improve us, and frankly it ISN'T clear that he'll help much at all.
And I'll lay odds right now that he won't be a Duck, unless someone goes down or it turns out that Rucchin can't play. Leclerc is coming back, and he's already under contract.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 08:52 PM Leclerc is coming back in two months.
Do you not think Comrie would be better between Sykora and Prospal than Pahlsson? I'd say the Rucchin line has been our 3rd line, anyway, and I think that's an excellent 3rd line. Pahlsson's a good guy, tries hard, reliable defensively, but he shouldn't be centering a scoring line IMO. I'd be happy if he was on the 4th line, maybe they'd actually play more than 5 or 6 minutes a night, especially when Bylsma gets back.
And since Lupul has reportedly been taken off the table you guys can relax your sphincters a bit ;)
lux_interior 11-30-2003, 09:01 PM And since Lupul has reportedly been taken off the table you guys can relax your sphincters a bit ;)
Whew! Thank you. Ahhhhh....
I think Comrie would be a good addition. Depending on the price of course. However, I believe that Murray would not "give it all away" to get Comrie. But, obviously he would be a huge upgrade over Pahlsson (As much as I love Sammi) as the third center.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 09:06 PM Not too relaxed, now.
Sure its contingent on price. I don't want to give up on Chistov yet. I'm even starting to come around on Vish.
But prospects - I don't consider that giving up. I'd give em any one prospect they wanted without a twinge of regret.
lux_interior 11-30-2003, 09:09 PM Not too relaxed, now.
Sure its contingent on price. I don't want to give up on Chistov yet. I'm even starting to come around on Vish.
But prospects - I don't consider that giving up. I'd give em any one prospect they wanted without a twinge of regret.
Prospects yes. Any day of the week. No problem there. What about Bryzgalov. The Oil isn't exactly stacked in goal.
Jshibley 11-30-2003, 09:35 PM Not too relaxed, now.
Sure its contingent on price. I don't want to give up on Chistov yet. I'm even starting to come around on Vish.
But prospects - I don't consider that giving up. I'd give em any one prospect they wanted without a twinge of regret.
I agree except in the case of Getzlaf. He just has too much potential to trade.
Snap Wilson 11-30-2003, 09:42 PM Do you not think Comrie would be better between Sykora and Prospal than Pahlsson? I'd say the Rucchin line has been our 3rd line, anyway, and I think that's an excellent 3rd line. Pahlsson's a good guy, tries hard, reliable defensively, but he shouldn't be centering a scoring line IMO. I'd be happy if he was on the 4th line, maybe they'd actually play more than 5 or 6 minutes a night, especially when Bylsma gets back.
First of all, in regards to who's the second and who's the third line, they've all been averaging 13-14 a game at even strength over the past few games, except for Lupul, because Babcock hates kids. :-)
But honestly, the Prospal-Pahlsson-Sykora line has been our best over the past few games at maintaining pressure in the offensive zone, and that's largely because of Pahlsson. He's the guy who goes into the corners and crashes the net. Comrie isn't going to do that stuff. If we could trade for a guy like Pahlsson with better hands, great, but I don't think another smurf in the lineup is going to make us a better team.
Look at our main problems this year. We can't clear the zone. We don't generate traffic in front consistently. Our effort has been sporadic. Does Comrie help us in ANY of those areas? No.
We know that Edmonton isn't going to take Simpson alone for Comrie. So say it's Vish. Does adding Comrie and playing Simpson every day make us better? Not in my book. I think we need to get better on the blueline, not worse.
Snap Wilson 11-30-2003, 09:44 PM Oh, wait, I forgot about Chistov. Yeah, go ahead and trade him. :-)
Oh, wait, I forgot about Chistov. Yeah, go ahead and trade him. :-)
I know you guys don't want to give up anything for Comrie but Vishnevski.........you're kidding right? Would any of you trade Lupul or Chistov for Vish? Then why on earth would the Oil? Would you even trade Andy Mac for Vishnevski? Come on,lets be realistic here.
Would you guys trade the Oil Ozolinsh for Rita? That's even a better offer than the Comrie one but it still stinks.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 10:14 PM Look, you're never going to get what he's worth because of his situation. Look at what the Pens just got for Straka, and he's a better player than Comrie.
The fact that it was a salary dump just evens it out. It's not like the Oilers are looking to add salary, either.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 10:23 PM But honestly, the Prospal-Pahlsson-Sykora line has been our best over the past few games at maintaining pressure in the offensive zone, and that's largely because of Pahlsson. He's the guy who goes into the corners and crashes the net. Comrie isn't going to do that stuff. If we could trade for a guy like Pahlsson with better hands, great, but I don't think another smurf in the lineup is going to make us a better team.
Comrie's a more talented version of McDonald. He'll be crashing the net and digging along the boards as much as anyone on the team. I think the line's success right now is due to Prospal's hard work, not Pahlsson's. I also think that the line would be worse defensively with Comrie in there rather than Pahlsson, but I'm okay with that.
Look at our main problems this year. We can't clear the zone. We don't generate traffic in front consistently. Our effort has been sporadic. Does Comrie help us in ANY of those areas? No.
Neither does acquiring Comrie hurt in any of those areas. I think it might even help in creating traffic and certainly generating offense. If you have a chance to improve the team, do it. The last 10 games aside, we don't score enough. We don't win unless Sergei's in on the fun. The mix right now is not right.
We know that Edmonton isn't going to take Simpson alone for Comrie. So say it's Vish. Does adding Comrie and playing Simpson every day make us better? Not in my book. I think we need to get better on the blueline, not worse.
I agree, but I don't think having Simpson in there makes us significantly worse defensively vs. Vish. Neither is a fantastic defender. Simpson is a better checker but won't clear the damn CREASE. Vish is playing light years better lately and honestly I'd hesitate to let him go, but not that much. I'd be okay with gambling that Sauer turns into the next Carney to anchor the defense.
Look, you're never going to get what he's worth because of his situation. Look at what the Pens just got for Straka, and he's a better player than Comrie.
The fact that it was a salary dump just evens it out. It's not like the Oilers are looking to add salary, either.
I totally agree with you that they won't get what he's worth but they'll get more than Vish. Straka,isn't a kid starting a long career and just starting to hit his stride. If all they were going to get was Vish than he would of been traded long ago. Lowe is supposedly asking for a lot so he'll have to come down a bit a some point but he won't give him away. He'll let him sit out the whole year and it won't matter how the Oilers season goes.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 10:39 PM Maybe so. I think the longer the Oilers are hovering around 9th and 10th the pressure will increase on Lowe to do something, and rightly so.
Chayos 11-30-2003, 10:56 PM Leclerc is coming back in two months.
Do you not think Comrie would be better between Sykora and Prospal than Pahlsson? I'd say the Rucchin line has been our 3rd line, anyway, and I think that's an excellent 3rd line. Pahlsson's a good guy, tries hard, reliable defensively, but he shouldn't be centering a scoring line IMO. I'd be happy if he was on the 4th line, maybe they'd actually play more than 5 or 6 minutes a night, especially when Bylsma gets back.
And since Lupul has reportedly been taken off the table you guys can relax your sphincters a bit ;)
I really think that Trading lupal would be a mistake byt the ducks. I as an oiler fan was ready to break out beers if we had gotten him. I think that the ducks would still have a chance at comrie, but he will cost you guys some stuff of substance.
Maybe something like
Comrie and Laraque and a 2nd for Chistov and Vishnevski
Chayos 11-30-2003, 10:59 PM Look, you're never going to get what he's worth because of his situation. Look at what the Pens just got for Straka, and he's a better player than Comrie.
The fact that it was a salary dump just evens it out. It's not like the Oilers are looking to add salary, either.
Comrie said he will play for less than the 1.3 million the oilers offerd him if he was traded somewhere else. This is not a salary dump it's a case of personalities that have clashed and bridges were burnt.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 11-30-2003, 11:03 PM I know it's not a salary dump, what I mean is that both players had extenuating circumstances which further lowered their value.
As to the trade you mentioned: I think that trade makes you better on paper, and I don't think you are going to be able to do that.
Snap Wilson 11-30-2003, 11:29 PM Comrie's a more talented version of McDonald. He'll be crashing the net and digging along the boards as much as anyone on the team. I think the line's success right now is due to Prospal's hard work, not Pahlsson's. I also think that the line would be worse defensively with Comrie in there rather than Pahlsson, but I'm okay with that.
Maybe you've seen Comrie more than I have, but "a more talented Andy MacDonald" has never been my reading of him. He seems like a typical smurf perimeter player, who takes occasional rushes at the net, and that was his better years. I didn't see him a whole lot last year, but he was criticized frequently for his effort, something I've never seen Andy Mac accused of.
Prospal has also been working hard, but it's Pahlsson who always seems to be around the puck. Look, those two have wound up working better with Pahlsson than they have with Fedorov. Comrie may come in and suddenly be the missing ingredient, or he may just upset the applecart further, and suddenly we're back to random line-swapping. For the first time this season, we have three lines that have displayed something approaching chemistry.
I agree, but I don't think having Simpson in there makes us significantly worse defensively vs. Vish. Neither is a fantastic defender.
Oy. This may just come down to differing opinions on Simpson, but I think he's AWFUL. He's slower than dirt, a terrible puck handler, and just an all around DUMB player. His only assets (the ones not proselytized by Goon Lovers Anonymous) are his size and the fact that he's a mean son of a b*tch, which can be useful under the right circumstances. But I wouldn't give up "old" Vish for him, quite frankly, let alone the one we've seen the past ten games or so.
And if there was an injury, just the thought of Simpson and Ward as one-third of our blueline. We'd go down in flames. I wouldn't even risk getting to that point.
If it was Chistov and a prospect for Comrie, I wouldn't shed any tears.
Jerky Leclerc 12-01-2003, 04:27 AM [QUOTE=moneyp]Oy. This may just come down to differing opinions on Simpson, but I think he's AWFUL. He's slower than dirt, a terrible puck handler, and just an all around DUMB player.QUOTE]
Please don't hold anything back now. :joker:
If we can join Sauer's brains with Simpson's brawn, we would have Adam Foote. :)
We have the technology. We can do it. In the next NHL game against Columbus, we will unveil SAU-PSON, a genetically engineered NHL defensemen using the DNA of Kurt Sauer and Todd Simpson. No more bonehead plays in the defensive zone. And no more hold on to your life in a fight, although I am 6'3. The gentle giant is no more. The immovable pilon is dead. Now we have SAU-PSON, the perfect NHL defensemen who can fight and play defense at the same time.
Pwnasaurus 12-01-2003, 05:13 AM If we can join Sauer's brains with Simpson's brawn, we would have Adam Foote. :)
We have the technology. We can do it. In the next NHL game against Columbus, we will unveil SAU-PSON, a genetically engineered NHL defensemen using the DNA of Kurt Sauer and Todd Simpson. No more bonehead plays in the defensive zone. And no more hold on to your life in a fight, although I am 6'3. The gentle giant is no more. The immovable pilon is dead. Now we have SAU-PSON, the perfect NHL defensemen who can fight and play defense at the same time.
I nominate this for post of the year
Spankatola Jamnuts* 12-01-2003, 06:05 AM Maybe you've seen Comrie more than I have, but "a more talented Andy MacDonald" has never been my reading of him. He seems like a typical smurf perimeter player, who takes occasional rushes at the net, and that was his better years. I didn't see him a whole lot last year, but he was criticized frequently for his effort, something I've never seen Andy Mac accused of.
Laziness tends to be an accusation we save for extremely talented players as we expect more from them, so that's a backhanded compliment (yeah I'm reaching). I haven't seen that said about Comrie but I don't give a damn about the Oilers and didn't pay overmuch attention to them. Regardless, I've always thought of Comrie as a pain in the ass to play against.
Prospal has also been working hard, but it's Pahlsson who always seems to be around the puck. Look, those two have wound up working better with Pahlsson than they have with Fedorov.
Pahlsson's ALWAYS the guy who's always around the puck. It doesn't really matter. He's an offensive liability.
Comrie may come in and suddenly be the missing ingredient, or he may just upset the applecart further, and suddenly we're back to random line-swapping. For the first time this season, we have three lines that have displayed something approaching chemistry.
Can't disagree there, but the reward is worth the risk to me.
Oy. This may just come down to differing opinions on Simpson, but I think he's AWFUL. He's slower than dirt, a terrible puck handler, and just an all around DUMB player. His only assets (the ones not proselytized by Goon Lovers Anonymous) are his size and the fact that he's a mean son of a b*tch, which can be useful under the right circumstances. But I wouldn't give up "old" Vish for him, quite frankly, let alone the one we've seen the past ten games or so.
I agree that Simpson's a joke, but "old" Vish is no improvement IMO. He's stupidity minus the loud noise. The way he's played lately makes me hesitate, like I said.
And if there was an injury, just the thought of Simpson and Ward as one-third of our blueline. We'd go down in flames. I wouldn't even risk getting to that point.
You mean we wouldn't stay on our torrid 1 win every 3 games pace?
If it was Chistov and a prospect for Comrie, I wouldn't shed any tears.
I'd shed them for both of us.
Seachd 12-01-2003, 06:29 AM Maybe you've seen Comrie more than I have, but "a more talented Andy MacDonald" has never been my reading of him. He seems like a typical smurf perimeter player, who takes occasional rushes at the net, and that was his better years.
"His better years"? Which, exactly? His first or second?
I can't believe people are even mentioning Comrie and MacDonald in the same sentence. One of them is one of the best young players in the game, and one is MacDonald.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 12-01-2003, 06:37 AM I mention them in the same sentence because both are small and feisty. I did say "more talented". Unless you have an inferiority complex or haven't much bothered to watch McDonald, that should be enough.
Seachd 12-01-2003, 06:53 AM I mention them in the same sentence because both are small and feisty. I did say "more talented". Unless you have an inferiority complex or haven't much bothered to watch McDonald, that should be enough.
Which is fine. I didn't disagree with that. I quoted moneyp's post, not yours.
I think a lot of people: 1) are either forgetting how good Comrie is, or 2) don't know how good he is. I'm not saying the Ducks should give up Lupul, or Vishnevski, or Getzlaf, or Perry, or Chistov, or whoever to get him. And I'm not saying Edmonton should trade him for any of those. I'm saying whoever gets Comrie gets a damn good player, and if he's leaving, the Oilers are really going to miss him.
We have the technology. We can do it. In the next NHL game against Columbus, we will unveil SAU-PSON, a genetically engineered NHL defensemen using the DNA of Kurt Sauer and Todd Simpson. No more bonehead plays in the defensive zone. And no more hold on to your life in a fight, although I am 6'3. The gentle giant is no more. The immovable pilon is dead. Now we have SAU-PSON, the perfect NHL defensemen who can fight and play defense at the same time.
With the way this season's going, we're going to end up with SIMP-ER, a player with Simpson's brain and Sauer's brawn.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 12-01-2003, 07:55 AM Which is fine. I didn't disagree with that. I quoted moneyp's post, not yours.
I think a lot of people: 1) are either forgetting how good Comrie is, or 2) don't know how good he is. I'm not saying the Ducks should give up Lupul, or Vishnevski, or Getzlaf, or Perry, or Chistov, or whoever to get him. And I'm not saying Edmonton should trade him for any of those. I'm saying whoever gets Comrie gets a damn good player, and if he's leaving, the Oilers are really going to miss him.
Okay then. To be fair I think money was debunking the idea that Comrie plays a similar style as Andy and not necessarily the idea that he's more talented.
Pwnasaurus 12-01-2003, 08:03 AM It's getting tough for me not to root against Edmonton so that Lowe will have to give him away for immediate help. Perhaps he should get off his high horse and do something soon before the team tanks it and he's left holding his Comrie
Seachd 12-01-2003, 08:08 AM It's getting tough for me not to root against Edmonton so that Lowe will have to give him away for immediate help. Perhaps he should get off his high horse and do something soon before the team tanks it and he's left holding his Comrie
What would you suggest? The one player the Ducks have that would help the Oilers now is Vishnevski, and I highly doubt Lowe will give Comrie up for him. So what else is there when it comes to Anaheim? If Lowe's going to get prospects/picks, how does trading him now stop the team from tanking?
Seachd 12-01-2003, 08:10 AM Okay then. To be fair I think money was debunking the idea that Comrie plays a similar style as Andy and not necessarily the idea that he's more talented.
I'm sorry if I took it the wrong way. But Comrie is far from a perimeter player, as he suggested.
Snap Wilson 12-01-2003, 08:29 AM Which is fine. I didn't disagree with that. I quoted moneyp's post, not yours.
And you managed to misinterpret it as well, since I wasn't comparing the talent levels of the two players either.
And Booger, while our "one win every three game" pace isn't great, it still beats two regulation losses every three games. The team is walking a pretty fine line at the moment. We could go either way.
Pwnasaurus 12-01-2003, 09:03 AM What would you suggest? The one player the Ducks have that would help the Oilers now is Vishnevski, and I highly doubt Lowe will give Comrie up for him. So what else is there when it comes to Anaheim? If Lowe's going to get prospects/picks, how does trading him now stop the team from tanking?
Do not assume that I am suggesting he come here. I just think it would be beneficial for everyone if it ended soon and frankly I am tired of Oiler fans saying that Lowe has the upper hand, thus it would simply prove my point and get things back to normal when the only reason non-Duck fans came to this board was to find out if Giguere was in net so they can figure out who to start in their fantasy leagues.
Jerky Leclerc 12-01-2003, 10:54 AM With the way this season's going, we're going to end up with SIMP-ER, a player with Simpson's brain and Sauer's brawn.
I thought we had a player like that. His name was Jamie Pushor.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 12-01-2003, 12:30 PM I really think that Trading lupal would be a mistake byt the ducks. I as an oiler fan was ready to break out beers if we had gotten him. I think that the ducks would still have a chance at comrie, but he will cost you guys some stuff of substance.
Maybe something like
Comrie and Laraque and a 2nd for Chistov and Vishnevski
Am I the only one who thinks this deal is pretty good? The enforcer, not a goon like Burnett, that we need. A young, scoring forward, which we could use. And a second also coming our way. All at the price of two potential filled players, who are playing well, but can be replaced. Maybe Comrie tries to replace Chistov on the 1st line, and Sammy stays with Vinny and Pete. Or he replaces Sammy, and we trade something other than Chistov in there.
duckhead3198 12-01-2003, 01:17 PM Haha, the days of Jamie Pushor...
you ever cringe at the thought that we were so bad way back then, that in video games, our second line was Cullen, Banham, and Marha?
I personally don't think Comrie is a bad player. I've never been in a locker room with him, or any pro team, so I don't, and no one here really knows if he's a good guy, lazy, a cancer, etc. The guy will probably be good for 20-30 every year over a full season. All this talk won't matter unless something happens, or unless Lowe reads the boards, and in that case, give us Comrie for a bag of pucks please.
Kevin Forbes 12-01-2003, 01:18 PM you ever cringe at the thought that we were so bad way back then, that in video games, our second line was Cullen, Banham, and Marha?
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didn't we just talk about this like 4 days ago?
Chayos 12-01-2003, 01:35 PM Do not assume that I am suggesting he come here. I just think it would be beneficial for everyone if it ended soon and frankly I am tired of Oiler fans saying that Lowe has the upper hand, thus it would simply prove my point and get things back to normal when the only reason non-Duck fans came to this board was to find out if Giguere was in net so they can figure out who to start in their fantasy leagues.
I think you misinterpret who Lowe has the upper hand against here. Oiler fans still hope that Comrie will sign for them at a reasonalbe price, and currently Lowe has the upper hand in negotiations as the team has been inconsistant but not utterly bad. Lowe doesn't have teh upper hand with other GM's in the league in trade talk right now. I think that the number of teams who are willing to take on a the salary and attitude issues of comrie are few, but the ones who are know they are getting a very talented goal scoring center who is gritty for his size. The mexican standoff has begun and i think the 1st team to pony up a decent offer for Comrie will get him. I think the teams in the running are Ana, Nashville, Chi, Atlanta and Fla.
These teams are stacked with prospects and i think that is all the oil will get for comrie. Very good prospect(s) but prospects.
Spankatola Jamnuts* 12-01-2003, 02:17 PM With our luck Comrie will wind up like Nedved and we'll be hearing about this all through the lockout.
duckhead3198 12-01-2003, 02:17 PM Hmm... I think so Forbesy...
But this Comrie thing has been beaten to death too hasn't it? =P
lux_interior 12-01-2003, 03:28 PM I thought we had a player like that. His name was Jamie Pushor.
What was funny was when the announcers interviewed Pushor when he was just traded from Detroit, Pushor said the coaches told him to "just keep doing what got you here." I thought, hmmm..., you mean just keep doing what got you traded from a perenial cup contender to a crappy team?
The amazing thing was he followed through on the coaches advice.
Jerky Leclerc 12-01-2003, 03:42 PM Hmm... I think so Forbesy...
But this Comrie thing has been beaten to death too hasn't it? =P
Nah, I'm sure there are a few angles we haven't covered yet. :joker:
1chlfan 12-01-2003, 04:05 PM Would u guys do the deal...Tim Brent and a first round pick for Comrie?...i think thats a pretty good deal for both Sides....what do ya think?
Spankatola Jamnuts* 12-01-2003, 04:10 PM Yeah I'd probably do that.
hunter orange 12-01-2003, 04:18 PM Comrie ----- for ----- Vishnevski & Perry
is looking very probable about now...Anaheim is unwilling to part with any one of Chistov, Lupul and Getzlaf (for Comrie) and the Perry & 2nd or the Vish/Com straight up deals will not cut it on the Oil's side.
Seachd 12-01-2003, 05:20 PM This was posted on another message board. The poster saw something on the Score (Canadian sports channel) about Comrie. And it was Bruce Dowbiggin (Calgary writer) who did the speculating. Don't get too hung up on the names, because it's not clear to me if any were mentioned or not, but this is what he said took place:
"Comrie came up in their round-table discussions and the one fellow ( Bruce Dowbiggin ) stated that a deal with the Ducks is relatively close to fruition... not sure who his inside sources are but going on them he said that "the deal most as surely happen after the Ducks play the Oilers on Dec 14th".
As for the breakdown on the "deal," it looks like Anaheim would send a defenseman (ie. Vishnevsky or Simpson or Sauer ) and 2 forwards (ie. Lupul or McDonald )...whether or not 89 heads to Ana alone was not mentioned ( ie. Rita/Chimera/Horcoff as a filler in the deal ). Take it for what it is worth as we have heard many a rumour in the last 4 months --- but the Ducks seem to the most interested."
I'll believe it when I see it (I don't understand why so many players would be involved), but this is the second time we've heard Dowbiggin saying the Oilers and Ducks are close to a deal, and their game against each other could be a good time for something to happen. :dunno:
Yeah, sounds fishy to me too. I mean, a good defenseman AND two forwards? What, did Comrie suddenly become a franchise player when we weren't looking?
Duckstudd269 12-01-2003, 06:49 PM Am I the only one who thinks this deal is pretty good? The enforcer, not a goon like Burnett, that we need. A young, scoring forward, which we could use. And a second also coming our way. All at the price of two potential filled players, who are playing well, but can be replaced. Maybe Comrie tries to replace Chistov on the 1st line, and Sammy stays with Vinny and Pete. Or he replaces Sammy, and we trade something other than Chistov in there.
is this deal fair? yes it is.
should the ducks do it? NO WAY IN HELL.
Comrie's value drops more every day, no need to get rid of a guy with as much potential as chistov.
Ducks need to realize that if chistov can improve his shot, this guy could be the real deal, also vish is getting better and better. u can tell the guy is more confident with the puck, and getting very good defensively. and id much rather keep him then simpson, but maybe if the deal is a GREAT one, then he might be dealt. but no trade, unless its a good one, cause i think our team is fine right now.
also comrie is in his what..3rd year? and already in a holdout? geez, that didnt take to long. not a good sign.
Pwnasaurus 12-02-2003, 04:42 AM 3 weeks ago I would have done Perry/Vish for Comrie in a heartbeat. I would probably still do this deal but Vish's borderline ridiculous turnaround has me wanting him to stay more and more after each game.
Duckstudd269 12-02-2003, 05:23 PM 3 weeks ago I would have done Perry/Vish for Comrie in a heartbeat. I would probably still do this deal but Vish's borderline ridiculous turnaround has me wanting him to stay more and more after each game.
yeah i agree, thats why i said they should only trade him if its a GREAT deal.
Snap Wilson 12-02-2003, 05:28 PM Well, after tonight's fiasco, I'm sold. Let's do it. Let's do SOMETHING. I don't know how much longer I can watch the team as it currently is.
lux_interior 12-02-2003, 06:48 PM Well, after tonight's fiasco, I'm sold. Let's do it. Let's do SOMETHING. I don't know how much longer I can watch the team as it currently is.
Why don't we trade every forward and defenseman in our system for Mike Comrie. That's right. It will just be Mike Comrie out there skating against five other guys.
Geezus, I think all this studying is starting to get to me.
Kevin Forbes 12-03-2003, 01:38 AM from the sounds of some OilFans, he is the second coming, future hall of famer and one of the more dominant players in the league
Our New Offer:
Stanislav Chistov
Joffrey Lupul
Vitaly Vishnevski
1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder in 2004
1st, 2nd rounder in 2005
Ryan Getzlaf
Ilya Bryzgalov
Mark Popovic
Tim Brent
Corey Perry
Chris Kunitz
Joel Perreault
Joel Stepp
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau
Tony Martensson
Cory Pecker
Igor Pohanka
Brandon Rogers
Juha Alen
Brian Lee
Shane Hynes
Vladimir Korsunov
Nathan Saunders
Shane O'Brien
Brian Gornick
To Anaheim:
God...Er....Mike Comrie
And we better do it quickly, as Comrie's value will get higher the more he doesn't play NHL hockey, and the more offers Lowe get to chose from
Jerky Leclerc 12-03-2003, 01:55 AM from the sounds of some OilFans, he is the second coming, future hall of famer and one of the more dominant players in the league
Our New Offer:
Stanislav Chistov
Joffrey Lupul
Vitaly Vishnevski
1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder in 2004
1st, 2nd rounder in 2005
Ryan Getzlaf
Ilya Bryzgalov
Mark Popovic
Tim Brent
Corey Perry
Chris Kunitz
Joel Perreault
Joel Stepp
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau
Tony Martensson
Cory Pecker
Igor Pohanka
Brandon Rogers
Juha Alen
Brian Lee
Shane Hynes
Vladimir Korsunov
Nathan Saunders
Shane O'Brien
Brian Gornick
To Anaheim:
God...Er....Mike Comrie
And we better do it quickly, as Comrie's value will get higher the more he doesn't play NHL hockey, and the more offers Lowe get to chose from
At least we still held on to that future consideration for Jason York, right?
Kevin Forbes 12-03-2003, 02:05 AM Garrett Burnett-Mike Comrie-Casey Hankinson
first line
Hankinson's nothing special
but Burnett's a future power forward....and talk about defense.....
Kevin Forbes 12-03-2003, 07:17 AM wow, I didn't think of it like that
I was just saying that under the influence of the Comrie aura, Burnett would be transformed...
addressed two issues with one stone I guess
elphy101 12-05-2003, 10:42 AM from the sounds of some OilFans, he is the second coming, future hall of famer and one of the more dominant players in the league
Our New Offer:
Stanislav Chistov
Joffrey Lupul
Vitaly Vishnevski
1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder in 2004
1st, 2nd rounder in 2005
Ryan Getzlaf
Ilya Bryzgalov
Mark Popovic
Tim Brent
Corey Perry
Chris Kunitz
Joel Perreault
Joel Stepp
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau
Tony Martensson
Cory Pecker
Igor Pohanka
Brandon Rogers
Juha Alen
Brian Lee
Shane Hynes
Vladimir Korsunov
Nathan Saunders
Shane O'Brien
Brian Gornick
To Anaheim:
God...Er....Mike Comrie
And we better do it quickly, as Comrie's value will get higher the more he doesn't play NHL hockey, and the more offers Lowe get to chose from
Okay sounds good. We'll take it.
Tell you what, we'll even throw in Scott Ferguson to even out the deal :)
mysteryman 12-05-2003, 11:15 AM Im a complete outsider...neither a Ducks nor an Oilers fan. That said from a strictly indifferent standpoint I see it as
Visnovksi and one of the Forwards(Lupul,Chistov). I would also imagine some mid rd picks exchanged and maybe a minor leaguer or two from the Edmonton system. Then again....any time theres this much talk and players names thrown about 9 times out 10 it wont happen and the deal will be completley different.
I dont see Simpson being part of the package as why would the Oilers want a Dman they could have gotten for free?
camboy 12-05-2003, 11:18 AM from the sounds of some OilFans, he is the second coming, future hall of famer and one of the more dominant players in the league
Our New Offer:
Stanislav Chistov
Joffrey Lupul
Vitaly Vishnevski
1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder in 2004
1st, 2nd rounder in 2005
Ryan Getzlaf
Ilya Bryzgalov
Mark Popovic
Tim Brent
Corey Perry
Chris Kunitz
Joel Perreault
Joel Stepp
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau
Tony Martensson
Cory Pecker
Igor Pohanka
Brandon Rogers
Juha Alen
Brian Lee
Shane Hynes
Vladimir Korsunov
Nathan Saunders
Shane O'Brien
Brian Gornick
To Anaheim:
God...Er....Mike Comrie
And we better do it quickly, as Comrie's value will get higher the more he doesn't play NHL hockey, and the more offers Lowe get to chose from
Nice post....and you call me a 12 year old?? Hmmm. How about the Ducks give up one Comrie-like talent to get Comrie. Maybe that is what Lowe is waiting for. Talent for Talent. Seems like a fair deal to me. Cheers.
Fan.At 12-05-2003, 11:40 AM from the sounds of some OilFans, he is the second coming, future hall of famer and one of the more dominant players in the league
Our New Offer:
Stanislav Chistov
Joffrey Lupul
Vitaly Vishnevski
1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder in 2004
1st, 2nd rounder in 2005
Ryan Getzlaf
Ilya Bryzgalov
Mark Popovic
Tim Brent
Corey Perry
Chris Kunitz
Joel Perreault
Joel Stepp
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau
Tony Martensson
Cory Pecker
Igor Pohanka
Brandon Rogers
Juha Alen
Brian Lee
Shane Hynes
Vladimir Korsunov
Nathan Saunders
Shane O'Brien
Brian Gornick
To Anaheim:
God...Er....Mike Comrie
And we better do it quickly, as Comrie's value will get higher the more he doesn't play NHL hockey, and the more offers Lowe get to chose from
I expect the Oilers to demand Smirnov too - otherwise no deal will happen :D
Seriously, if the Ducks want Comrie that bad (I don't them to want him) they should get rid of McDonald. Ducks never had success with too much small forwards...
Randall Graves* 12-05-2003, 01:53 PM 3 weeks ago I would have done Perry/Vish for Comrie in a heartbeat. I would probably still do this deal but Vish's borderline ridiculous turnaround has me wanting him to stay more and more after each game.
Trading Vish would be a huge mistake, we have exactly two other young defensemen. Sauer and Popovic...trading vish would make our D worse now and in 3 years.
Try and see if they will take McDonald and Perry and if they demand Lupul then quickly hang up and go after Peca or Hamrlik.
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