ATD: Conn Smythe Standings

John Flyers Fan
05-30-2007, 08:27 AM
Here are the Conn Smythe standings through the completion of round #1

Points system works as follws (1st star - 5pts, 2nd star - 3pts, 3rd star - 1pt)


1. Bobby Orr - 62 **
2. Bernie Parent - 57
3. Wayne Gretzky - 56
4. Maurice Richard - 52
5. Red Kelly - 49
6. Domink Hasek - 48 **
7. Terry Sawchuk - 45 **
8. Bobby Clarke - 44
9. Gordie Howe - 39
10. Bobby Hull - 34 **


** - has been elimiminated

John Flyers Fan
05-30-2007, 01:47 PM
Bump to make sure everyone sees this.

Surprising that 4 of the top 10 and 5 of the top 11 vote getters have been eliminated.

Orr and Gretzky had the largest gaps between them and the 2nd place vote getter for their series (40 pts.)

Murphy
05-30-2007, 01:53 PM
Good idea, No Oilers (pout) but nice to know they were able to knock out Bobby Orr.

Bob Gainey will be there at the end though, count on it.......;)

EagleBelfour
05-30-2007, 02:00 PM
So the 4 teams that won the division has less chance to see one of his player win the Conn Smythe :cry:

You know it's gonna belong to Béliveau anyways at the end of it!



:sarcasm:

VanIslander
05-30-2007, 06:19 PM
Butch Goring, Conn Smythe winner
Brian Leetch, Conn Smythe winner
Serge Savard, Conn Smythe winner

Here's hoping they weave some of their magic.

1. Bobby Orr - 62 **
6. Domink Hasek - 48 **
7. Terry Sawchuk - 45 **
10. Bobby Hull - 34 **
** - has been elimiminated
4 of the top 10 star vote getters were on losing teams. Goes to show that decisions are being made based on team play as a whole rather than one or two players. That's a good thing. On the main board many posters would go: "Orr! His team would win." without much thought about the rest of the line-up and how they'd work together, special teams, coaching, etcetera. Even Gretzky has failed to make the playoffs a few times, and certainly has been bounced in the playoffs even when on good teams.

John Flyers Fan
05-31-2007, 09:07 AM
Good idea, No Oilers (pout) but nice to know they were able to knock out Bobby Orr.

Bob Gainey will be there at the end though, count on it.......;)

Lindsay with 22 points would be your best bet.

John Flyers Fan
06-05-2007, 08:49 AM
Updated after round #2

Round 2

1. Plante - 37
2. Brodeur - 35
3. Parent - 32
3. Beliveau - 32
5. Gretzky - 30
6. Shore - 28
7. Dryden - 24
8. Lemieux - 23
9. Messier - 22
10. Clarke - 21
10. Mikita - 21

Totals

1. Bernie Parent - 89 **
2. Wayne Gretzky - 86
3. Maurice Richards - 70 **
4. Red Kelly - 68 **
5. Bobby Clarke - 65
6. Bobby Orr - 62 **
7. Gordie Howe - 52 **
8. Mario Lemieux - 49 **
9. Martin Brodeur - 48
10. Mark Messier - 46 **


Top 5 remaining

1. Wayne Gretzky - 86
2. Bobby Clarke - 65
3. Martin Brodeur - 48
4. Ted Lindsay - 44
4. Bryan Trottier - 44

John Flyers Fan
06-05-2007, 08:53 AM
One surprising note, only 3 of the first 17 players selected still remaing alive heading to the divisional finals.

2. Wayne Gretzky
8. Eddie Shore
9. Jean Beliveau

saskatoonman
06-10-2007, 06:01 PM
nice job.

reckoning
06-10-2007, 09:19 PM
Two questions:

1) Does this system penalize players from the teams that received a first-round bye?

2) When it gets to the Final, I wonderif we will be basing our 3 Stars votes on who we think would be best in the series, or giving them to a particular player because he has a better chance to finish first based on the standings?

VanIslander
06-10-2007, 09:21 PM
Two questions:

1) Does this system penalize players from the teams that received a first-round bye?
That is EXACTLY what happened back in the day of first round byes... the nature of the beast... i remember those days well

VanIslander
06-10-2007, 09:33 PM
2) When it gets to the Final, I wonderif we will be basing our 3 Stars votes on who we think would be best in the series
yes

John Flyers Fan
06-10-2007, 09:58 PM
Two questions:

1) Does this system penalize players from the teams that received a first-round bye?

2) When it gets to the Final, I wonderif we will be basing our 3 Stars votes on who we think would be best in the series, or giving them to a particular player because he has a better chance to finish first based on the standings?

3 stars should be given to those that you think will be the top players in each particular series. In all likihood the Conn Smythe winner will come from the team that wins the title, so the qst roudn bye shouldn't matter too much.

VanIslander
06-12-2007, 07:12 PM
Updated after round #3

Round 3

1. Gretzky 55
2. Shore 40
3. Beliveau 38
4. Dryden 38
5. Plante 36
6. Lalonde 36
7. Clarke 35
8. Hall 31
9. Jagr 28
10. Mikita 27


John Flyers Fan has the complete master list of all player votes, so he'll post the overall totals after round 3 as well as top 5 remaining.