Glen Murray

He's making 3.5 mil per season and is an UFA by the end of the year. Judging by the past history of the Bruins, they probably don't intend to resign him in the offseason which means that he could be available come the trade deadline. I personally would love to trade for Glen Murray as he would give us some more size up front as well as some goal scoring ability. The sens would move Havlat up to the the Bonk-Hossa line full time, something we all want to see on a regular basis. Since Murray thrives playing with a playmaker, Spezza would benefit from having a pure goal scorer like Murray on his line forming two potential top level lines:

Havlat-Bonk-Hossa
Schaefer-Spezza-Murray (Schaefer's the defensive conscience)
White-Smoke-Alfie
Vermette-Fisher-Neil

What would you be willing to give up/ what do you think it would cost? IMO I'd be willing to give up any one prospect other than Emery or Vermette. Hopefully we'd have another situation like Smolinski and Murray will resign for 4 years and 12 million, which could be offset by the loss of CL's salary. What do you guys think?

If the Bruins are still in the playoff picture come the trade deadline...Murray is not going anywhere for sure.

Now...if they are out of it...which I think there is a 0.00000001% chance...he wouldn't be going to the Sens because the B's will ask for too much for him for sure. The players that they would want in return would only hurt us in the long run and the playoffs.

The likes of Murray, Lecavalier, etc...are just a pipe dream for Sens fans.

If the Bruins are still in the playoff picture come the trade deadline...Murray is not going anywhere for sure.

Now...if they are out of it...which I think there is a 0.00000001% chance...he wouldn't be going to the Sens because the B's will ask for too much for him for sure. The players that they would want in return would only hurt us in the long run and the playoffs.

The likes of Murray, Lecavalier, etc...are just a pipe dream for Sens fans.

In all fairness, Murray is going to be a UFA next season, so his value to a team which doesn't resign its free agents is not so high. Lecavalier is not a good comparison as the sens have as good a chance as any other team to sign him in the offseason. If the B's don't think they have a shot at going anywhere in the playoffs they may just unload him like LA did with Smolinski, in order to get something as opposed to losing him for nothing next season. I honestly don't think his price would be that high.

Secondly, there is a chance that the Bs miss the playoffs - if Thornton gets injured there is a *very* good chance they will miss the playoffs.

In all fairness, Murray is going to be a UFA next season, so his value to a team which doesn't resign its free agents is not so high. Lecavalier is not a good comparison as the sens have as good a chance as any other team to sign him in the offseason. If the B's don't think they have a shot at going anywhere in the playoffs they may just unload him like LA did with Smolinski, in order to get something as opposed to losing him for nothing next season. I honestly don't think his price would be that high.

Secondly, there is a chance that the Bs miss the playoffs - if Thornton gets injured there is a *very* good chance they will miss the playoffs.

Ha, Ha, Ha...you just compared Smoke to Murray...LOL...

I'm pretty sure that a 40 goal sniper is in the same boat as a streaky 60 point floater...that cost us a 1st round pick.

Volchenkov...between you and me...stick to realistic dreams my friend...

Ha, Ha, Ha...you just compared Smoke to Murray...LOL...

I'm pretty sure that a 40 goal sniper is in the same boat as a streaky 60 point floater...that cost us a 1st round pick.

Volchenkov...between you and me...stick to realistic dreams my friend...

The price would be higher I agree, but it wouldn't be more than say Mirnov + Kaigorodov/Laich which is a deal I would probably do.

The price would be higher I agree, but it wouldn't be more than say Mirnov + Kaigorodov/Laich which is a deal I would probably do.

ok Mr. Igor Mirnov=Martin Havlat,

Really? Would you do that?

Don't be insane...

ok Mr. Igor Mirnov=Martin Havlat,

Really? Would you do that?

Don't be insane...

I hope Igor Mirnov=Martin Havlat but I'll take the sure thing over a non top-tier prospect any day.

I hope Igor Mirnov=Martin Havlat but I'll take the sure thing over a non top-tier prospect any day.

Ok...understandable...but still...the ONLY way I give up Mirnov is if Murray signs for sure...100%.

Besides...Mirnov is hurt right now, and would have 0 value in a trade. And do we really want to "give" the B's a Havlat?

Ok...understandable...but still...the ONLY way I give up Mirnov is if Murray signs for sure...100%.

Besides...Mirnov is hurt right now, and would have 0 value in a trade. And do we really want to "give" the B's a Havlat?

You bring up a couple of good points. I'm not so worried about "giving" boston a potential Havlat especially since he's at least 3-4 years away from being an impact player if at all.

I agree with you on Murray, though I would think that the odds of him resigning would be pretty good. Most players love playing in Ottawa. Then again, perhaps the Sens would be better off trying to get him in the off-season. You are probably right, I would probably back off of the deal unless I had a deal worked out with Murray to sign him long-term.

You bring up a couple of good points. I'm not so worried about "giving" boston a potential Havlat especially since he's at least 3-4 years away from being an impact player if at all.

I agree with you on Murray, though I would think that the odds of him resigning would be pretty good. Most players love playing in Ottawa. Then again, perhaps the Sens would be better off trying to get him in the off-season. You are probably right, I would probably back off of the deal unless I had a deal worked out with Murray to sign him long-term.

;)

We can't afford to move any of our prospects right now...well...the good ones. The likes of Kaig, Mirnov, Eaves, Emery, etc...the other ones aren't exactly "marketable"...so it's no use really.

we're not in a "win now, or we'll never win it mode"...we're in a "win now...that would be nice" mode...we don't have to give up our future for the present because our team is very young still and our good young players are VERY good potentially.

Klepis is a bust...or will be I'm sure...he hasn't even met expectations...and probably won't. Gleason didn't want to play in Candada..hence...they were expendable. If Mucks moves...and I don't think he will because apparently he's smart...any of our good prospects...it'll be for a good young player...

I'm not such a huge prospect guy. The truth about prospects is that most of them don't pan out so if I can get a legit top-line talent for a prospect I do it, unless its a prospect with massive potential (I don't think Mirnov does at this point). The only reason I wouldn't trade Vermette is because he's proven he can play at the NHL level and will be a valuable defensive specialists forming one hell of a 4th line with Mike Fisher.

I'm not such a huge prospect guy. The truth about prospects is that most of them don't pan out so if I can get a legit top-line talent for a prospect I do it, unless its a prospect with massive potential (I don't think Mirnov does at this point). The only reason I wouldn't trade Vermette is because he's proven he can play at the NHL level and will be a valuable defensive specialists forming one hell of a 4th line with Mike Fisher.

I see that you have gone over to the "Dark Side of Hockey"...are you a Sather fan?

The only thing that Vermette has proven at this point in that he can bat pucks out of the air and score "Bobby Hull'esque" goals...

Damn...that 4'incher off the ice against Buffalo was one HELL of a goal.

You need to get more in touch with our prospects I think at this point. Mirnov, Kaigorodov and Vermette are "players" in this league potentially...they can't possibly be 4th line players...and neither is Fish.

And as an afterthought...Hossa and Havlat were taken late in the 1st roudn because they were too small, too skinny, etc, etc,...but look at what happend with them...;)

If Patrick Eaves stays heatlthy...and meets his potential...people with ask, "Peca and/or Morrow who"?

I see that you have gone over to the "Dark Side of Hockey"...are you a Sather fan?

The only thing that Vermette has proven at this point in that he can bat pucks out of the air and score "Bobby Hull'esque" goals...

Damn...that 4'incher off the ice against Buffalo was one HELL of a goal.

You need to get more in touch with our prospects I think at this point. Mirnov, Kaigorodov and Vermette are "players" in this league potentially...they can't possibly be 4th line players...and neither is Fish.

I am aware that Vermette and Fisher are not 4th line talents, but that's where they will have to play on the Sens for the time being.

*IF* the Bruins were out of the playoff race I'd actually like to see us go after Rolston instead who is also UFA at the end of the season.

Rolston is a fan favourite so perhaps its a little unlikely and if I'm not mistaken he also plays centre. So I'm not sure how we'd fit him in.

The trouble with targets is that if a team is in the hunt the price goes up. For example I thought Rathje could be had, but not on the Sharks recent form!

In all fairness, Murray is going to be a UFA next season, so his value to a team which doesn't resign its free agents is not so high. Lecavalier is not a good comparison as the sens have as good a chance as any other team to sign him in the offseason. If the B's don't think they have a shot at going anywhere in the playoffs they may just unload him like LA did with Smolinski, in order to get something as opposed to losing him for nothing next season. I honestly don't think his price would be that high.

Secondly, there is a chance that the Bs miss the playoffs - if Thornton gets injured there is a *very* good chance they will miss the playoffs.

Wow...that is a nice thinking! What if Hossa or Alfredsson get injured? Are you planning something.

Btw Joe has only 6 goals this year so B's don't rely only on him.

Murray has the best years playing with Thornton in Boston so he might as well want to stay here.

This year is a year he could've been UFA but he decided to stay here.(He signed 2 years contract during his last RFA year).

Murray absolutely needs a very good passer because he doesn't fight for the puck in the corners and doesn't use his size to his advantage. His common goals are from standing and waiting for the puck.

He's making 3.5 mil per season and is an UFA by the end of the year. Judging by the past history of the Bruins, they probably don't intend to resign him in the offseason which means that he could be available come the trade deadline. I personally would love to trade for Glen Murray as he would give us some more size up front as well as some goal scoring ability. The sens would move Havlat up to the the Bonk-Hossa line full time, something we all want to see on a regular basis. Since Murray thrives playing with a playmaker, Spezza would benefit from having a pure goal scorer like Murray on his line forming two potential top level lines:

Havlat-Bonk-Hossa
Schaefer-Spezza-Murray (Schaefer's the defensive conscience)
White-Smoke-Alfie
Vermette-Fisher-Neil

What would you be willing to give up/ what do you think it would cost? IMO I'd be willing to give up any one prospect other than Emery or Vermette. Hopefully we'd have another situation like Smolinski and Murray will resign for 4 years and 12 million, which could be offset by the loss of CL's salary. What do you guys think?

I can understand Van Allen and Schastlivy (although, he is playing better I find) being benched, and assuming he comes back healthy, do you really think that Varada will be sitting??? He chips in the odd goal and his fiesty play is very important IMO. Maybe Schastlivy would be dealt for Murray, because all we would get would be dealing is a draft pick or "future considerations" anyway for him I would think. Boston would be stupid to turn that down in a sense.

I personally would love to trade for Glen Murray as he would give us some more size up front as well as some goal scoring ability. The sens would move Havlat up to the the Bonk-Hossa line full time, something we all want to see on a regular basis. Since Murray thrives playing with a playmaker, Spezza would benefit from having a pure goal scorer like Murray on his line forming two potential top level lines:

Havlat-Bonk-Hossa
Schaefer-Spezza-Murray (Schaefer's the defensive conscience)
White-Smoke-Alfie
Vermette-Fisher-Neil



Glen Murray would offer some for size up front, but why would we want a big forward that doesn't really use his size very effectively? I don't think he's quite the type of forward that will give the Senators that added edge. He could possibly be useful though as a deadline acquisition if the Sens made another move during the season that required them to trade a roster player (ie Havlat).

Unless the Sens trade for a physical winger, I think that any acquisition would almost be pointless.

Unless the Sens trade for a physical winger, I think that any acquisition would almost be pointless.

My thoughts exactly. And at that, I don't think there is much use unless it's to bring in an impact player. Morrow, Smyth, Cole, etc. They'll come with a high price, but I think the future is now - or soon. Agree or not, either way I have a feeling that Muckler won't dilly dally and watch this squad evolve. He's not exactly "young", and I think he'll likely make a splash during his tenure here in Ottawa and I believe it will come sooner than later.

If you guys really want Glen Murray, I warn you. You'll be getting the softest 6'3 230 lbs power forward in the league. You'll be getting the laziest, most one-dimensional leetch in the entire league.

If not for Thornton, Glen Murray would be nothing but a mediocre 3rd liner. He stands in the middle of the offensive zone waiting for Joe to pass him the puck. For every 1 timer that he gets on net, there are about 4 whiffs.

You'll also get a guy who has scored a grand total of 2 playoff goals in two seasons with the Bruins. Talk about being your go-to-guy when it counts.

That being said, you can gladly have him for Brian Pothier or a defenseman prospect and a high pick. But remember, be careful what you wish for.

If you guys really want Glen Murray, I warn you. You'll be getting the softest 6'3 230 lbs power forward in the league. You'll be getting the laziest, most one-dimensional leetch in the entire league.

If not for Thornton, Glen Murray would be nothing but a mediocre 3rd liner. He stands in the middle of the offensive zone waiting for Joe to pass him the puck. For every 1 timer that he gets on net, there are about 4 whiffs.

You'll also get a guy who has scored a grand total of 2 playoff goals in two seasons with the Bruins. Talk about being your go-to-guy when it counts.

That being said, you can gladly have him for Brian Pothier or a defenseman prospect and a high pick. But remember, be careful what you wish for.

Hmm... interesting. If the price for Murray is only Brian Pothier than I am all for the deal. Spezza should be the type of playmaker that Glen Murray needs. Besides, it would allow Havlat to move to the left side on the Bonk-Hossa line.

The player I would want the most from the Bruins would be Rolston. What would be the price for Rolston?

If you guys really want Glen Murray, I warn you. You'll be getting the softest 6'3 230 lbs power forward in the league. You'll be getting the laziest, most one-dimensional leetch in the entire league.

If not for Thornton, Glen Murray would be nothing but a mediocre 3rd liner. He stands in the middle of the offensive zone waiting for Joe to pass him the puck. For every 1 timer that he gets on net, there are about 4 whiffs.

You'll also get a guy who has scored a grand total of 2 playoff goals in two seasons with the Bruins. Talk about being your go-to-guy when it counts.

That being said, you can gladly have him for Brian Pothier or a defenseman prospect and a high pick. But remember, be careful what you wish for.

Calling Murray a lazy, one dimensional leetch is about as ignorant as it gets. People say he is soft because he doesnt lay out the big sportscenter hits, but truth be told he does use his size well in front of the net and in the corners. He is a good penalty killer and an overall smart player with a great, great shot. Two years ago he had 40 goals playing with Josef freakin Stumpel. Its obvious that the above Bruin fan has a clear bias, for whatever reason, against Murray and does not give him his due.

Honestly I would not be surprised to see him come back or dealt....either way I wouldnt be shocked. I think he likes it in Boston, he has had success here, and hasnt been a contract problem whatsoever.

Calling Murray a lazy, one dimensional leetch is about as ignorant as it gets. People say he is soft because he doesnt lay out the big sportscenter hits, but truth be told he does use his size well in front of the net and in the corners. He is a good penalty killer and an overall smart player with a great, great shot. Two years ago he had 40 goals playing with Josef freakin Stumpel. Its obvious that the above Bruin fan has a clear bias, for whatever reason, against Murray and does not give him his due.

Interesting to see this disparity of opinion. Personally, I think Murray would be a very fine addition to the Sens - if only because of his size, and the fact that he's been groomed with a shoot-first attitude. We have playmakers coming out our ears, but few bona fide finishers. Murray would be an excellent compliment if he were attainable.

That being said, I wouldn't expect it to be a cheap acquisition. I agree that his numbers are inflated, but there's no way that the Bruins are going to part with their 40-goal principal return from the Jason Allison trade without getting something of substance in return. And therein lies the problem. Murray is no sure-fire 40G sniper, but you can expect Boston to posture him as such in trade talks. According to the 'buy low, sell high' theory of player management, it's probably a poor time to inquire about his services.

As for whether he's lazy or not, I don't know. Earlier in his career (especially in Pittsburgh), he appeared to be far from lazy. But he seems to have settled into a sniper role in Boston, and looks perhaps a bit too comfortable out on the ice with Thornton (in a bad way). Ultimately, a change of scenery might not be the worst thing for him.

If you guys really want Glen Murray, I warn you. You'll be getting the softest 6'3 230 lbs power forward in the league. You'll be getting the laziest, most one-dimensional leetch in the entire league.

If not for Thornton, Glen Murray would be nothing but a mediocre 3rd liner. He stands in the middle of the offensive zone waiting for Joe to pass him the puck. For every 1 timer that he gets on net, there are about 4 whiffs.

You'll also get a guy who has scored a grand total of 2 playoff goals in two seasons with the Bruins. Talk about being your go-to-guy when it counts.

That being said, you can gladly have him for Brian Pothier or a defenseman prospect and a high pick. But remember, be careful what you wish for.

Harry Sinden, is that you?

Interesting to see this disparity of opinion. Personally, I think Murray would be a very fine addition to the Sens - if only because of his size, and the fact that he's been groomed with a shoot-first attitude. We have playmakers coming out our ears, but few bona fide finishers. Murray would be an excellent compliment if he were attainable.

As for whether he's lazy or not, I don't know. Earlier in his career (especially in Pittsburgh), he appeared to be far from lazy. But he seems to have settled into a sniper role in Boston, and looks perhaps a bit too comfortable out on the ice with Thornton (in a bad way). Ultimately, a change of scenery might not be the worst thing for him.

Nope he's not lazy, just slow. You'd have to throttle back your attack for him to even keep up.

Nope he's not lazy, just slow. You'd have to throttle back your attack for him to even keep up.

He shouldn't have a really hard time keeping up with Spezza.

if the b's trade murray, they can afford to wait until the deadline and let teams bid against each other for his services. you can be sure that it will cost a pretty penny to get him, especially a rival such as ottawa. vermette would HAVE to be part of any deal IMO, unless we're talking mike fisher. personally, i think another team will step up and overpay, so i doubt he'll be in ottawa.

I have this feeling that Murray will sign with LA or Anaheim this summer. He kept his house in So Cal when he came to Boston and I remember reading an article about how much he loved it out there and how he still spends his summers playing competitve volleyball with a bunch of other former Kings teammates and this and that. This may not amount to much but i'm it sure is more enticing to Glen Murray than the directionless Bruins and 3 Ottawa winters.