Congrats to Denmark and Danish hockey

Nice to see Lars Eller selected in the first round.

Second euro and first nordic player selected.

Shows, together with all teams present in Group A, that Danish hockey is moving forward. Hopefully this will give it another little push.

So congratulations and I hope that danish media makes as much use of the bragging rights as possible :)

Thanks a lot. It's so nice to see all our prospects these years. We should have a good NT in a couple of years.

However on the negative side we have the media coverage. There has been very little about Lars Eller in the Danish Media. I really don't understand that. IMO it's even bigger than Frans Nielsens NHL debut as the first Dane.

Danish defenseman Mikkel Bodker has been picked 5th overall in the CHL Import Draft by Kitchener as well.

Danish defenseman Mikkel Bodker has been picked 5th overall in the CHL Import Draft by Kitchener as well.

He's a forward ;)

Philip Larsen is our top d-prospect.

congrats to denmark. looks like you are one (or ten) steps ahead of us right now in player development. i wish denmark all the best when you are competing for medals in future tournaments.

congrats to denmark. looks like you are one (or ten) steps ahead of us right now in player development. i wish denmark all the best when you are competing for medals in future tournaments.

Yes in the future we should have a much better team than Norway. It seems we develop solid talents all the time these years :)

But Norway should also be able to create something with your hockey/sport collages.

there are like 800 registered players in denmark = they dont give a **** about hockey..

there are like 800 registered players in denmark = they dont give a **** about hockey..

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, so maybe you should just stay out of this thread?

1. There are about 4.300 players in Denmark.

2. Hockey is the 2nd most popular sport in Denmark if you look at the attendance(above handball eventhough we are one of the best countries with 3 straight olympic gold medals.)

Point taken?

You obviously don't know what you are talking about, so maybe you should just stay out of this thread?

1. There are about 4.300 players in Denmark.

2. Hockey is the 2nd most popular sport in Denmark if you look at the attendance(above handball eventhough we are one of the best countries with 3 straight olympic gold medals.)

Point taken?

And as always, success brings success.

Hockey takes time to develop, it's expensive, it takes resources.

The fact that european hockey in general is gathering momentum, and getting more proffessional, combined with european integration (even if that's old news in the nordics) also adds boost to the younger hockey nations.

Swedish teams have been trolling the danish and norwegian waters for some time, fishing for talent. And swedish players and staff has beginning going the other way (be a mid level player/staff in Sweden or be a "pro-star" in Denmark/Norway, take your pick).

As teams all over get more proffessional, they learn and leech of eachother.

With Danish (and Norwegian) players getting some splash in international tournaments and playing in big (or semi-big) leagues it raises the awareness of the sport.

And take a look in the 'big' euro leagues.
There's a lot of players who chose to be 'big' here, than grunts in NHL (or worse, AHL).

And as the others catch up, you'll see the same again.

Once upon a time players where amatuers who played for their home team. But now all the world is available and every player (and staff) wants to play where they can develop and get the most out of their game.

And as the players rise in the ranks, so does local intrest, and automatically money.

There's still several years before Denmark or Norway beats Sweden or Finland in a WC or Olympic game, but it is coming.

There's still several years before Denmark or Norway beats Sweden or Finland in a WC or Olympic game, but it is coming.

i dont really think its coming. same with germany past few years..

You are right hdw. It takes time to develop talents. What we see now is the result of a lot of great work that has been put into our youth systems many years ago when visionary people aimed high - and succeeded.

i dont really think its coming. same with germany past few years..

Ohh wait, it will happen. Remember Switzerland beating Canada in Turin? In a couple of years we will be competing against Switzerland about why will be the best "non-elite" nation in the world.

This year at the IHWC in the game against Sweden it could really have gone both ways with a little luck.

But you are obviously just an arrogant Finn so i really don't see why you even bother to write in this thread?

i dont really think its coming. same with germany past few years..

I think it will.

Swedish teams are culling the top talents from the Danish and Norwegian youth, while at the same time the Danish and Norwegian teams are learning.

Soon there'll be hockey schools good enough to challenge the swedish ones, and the talents will stay and develop at home.

It's a simple fact, anyone within the nordics has the right to study or work in any of the other nordic nations. No papers, no red tape, my swedish passport grants me full access to danish, norwegian, finnish or icelandic schools and jobs.

Works for me, works for hockeyplayers.

It's not that I long for the moment, but some years ahead, one of the big will fall to one of the small.

I think it will.

Swedish teams are culling the top talents from the Danish and Norwegian youth, while at the same time the Danish and Norwegian teams are learning.

Soon there'll be hockey schools good enough to challenge the swedish ones, and the talents will stay and develop at home.


I don't think i agree with you here. Sweden has a lot more tradition when it comes to developing talents, and we can't ignore this. The competition is too small and the talents too few to create a really competitive environment for the talents to develop optimal after age 16.

Right now we already have one of Europes best hockey schools when it comes to developing talents - Rødovre. But when they turn about 15-16 they have to move outside the country if they want to reach the top. It will continue to be like this for a very long time.

Unless, of course, e.g Rødovre's youth team was going to play in the Swedish youth devisions - interesting thought. I'm not sure it would be the optimal thing for Danish hockey in the long run though.


It's not that I long for the moment, but some years ahead, one of the big will fall to one of the small.

I agree. This will happen sooner than we think. The gap between Denmark/Switzerland and e.g. Slovakia will get very close and maybe disappear completely at one point.

EDIT:
Don't expect Norway to follow Denmark though. Read the entry called "A Tale of Two Hockey Rivals" and this
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=323203

the fact is that denmark is a good hockey country if u compare to other small hockey countries, they have this promising yound kid who got drafted early, but its along way to go to be one of the 8 biggest. now if that edler (or was it eller) will become a star - which i really hope + i have nothing against denmark's hockey - it will look much better

like i said about germany, few years ago everybody thought that germany will become one of the 8 biggest but it hasnt really gone on. they still got kolzig and sturm, but who will come after them?

switzerland is the country which i think will succes in future, it has alot of young talent and hockey is growing there fast

denmark isnt that good as switzerland, and switzerland still has much to go if they want to belong 8 biggest, but they both has the tools..

i still have to say that its brilliant if team like denmark plays 2-2 against country like canada, usa, sweden, finland for example, but it really doesnt mean much yet.

the time will show what will happen..

the future looks pretty bad for slovakia and finland, i would rank the 15 biggest like this:

1. canada
2. russia
3. sweden
4. finland
5. czech
6. slovakia
7. usa
8. switzerland
9. germany
10. latvia
11. ukraine
12. belarus
13. denmark
14. norway
15. austria

if denmark plays 2-2 against canada it means that u have come closer but still 1-2 steps behind

You are just so far of that i really don't get why you try to go into this discussion. It's clear that you don't have the insight in Danish hockey that makes you able to really discuss this IMO.

I don't know anything about the future of German hockey, but i do know something about the future of Danish hockey, and it is bright.

Noone is saying that we will be an elite nation and compete against Canada, Sweden, Finland, etc. in the run for the olympic gold. That would be crazy to imagine. But what do DO get with these talents is a strong team that will be able to bean one of the big 7 here and there - count on it!.

The succes for Danish hockey is not just a one hit wonder. If you really want to know something about Danish hockey you can either read this thread(which might make you think twice) http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?p=86729#post86729

If you are too lazy to do that you could just check players like Peter Regin, Frans Nielsen, Morten Madsen, Kirill Starkov, Mark Mieritz, Sebastian Svendsen, Philip Larsen, Mikkel Bødker, Jannik Hansen, Lars Eller, etc. etc.

All these players are potentially solid NHLers(and there are more to come down the pipeline). One of these players has already gone in the first round(Eller) and 4 of those names are really 1st round potential. Mikkel Bødker has just been chosen 5 in the CHL draft(he should have been picked higher IMO) and it is not unlikely that he will go top 10 next year beating Lars Ellers new record.

If you look at the really young players we arguably the biggest u10 talent in Europe. Nikolaj Krag-Kristensen is only 8 years old but he plays against 10 year olds. Last season he scored no less than 137 goals. His inspiration is Peter Forsberg, and you should look out for this guy eventhough it might be a little too early to tell(after all he wont be drafted before 2017 :)

And your ranking of the countries is just stupid, and i wont comment it further.

If you look at the really young players we arguably the biggest u10 talent in Europe. Nikolaj Krag-Kristensen is only 8 years old but he plays against 10 year olds. Last season he scored no less than 137 goals. His inspiration is Peter Forsberg, and you should look out for this guy eventhough it might be a little too early to tell(after all he wont be drafted before 2017

sure there are much truth what u are saying but thats just kidding, please i was just laughing :D:D:D

MAN WAU! in the most countries players start to play when they are 7-11 years old, the best u10 is YOUR BIG JOKE!

no bad feelings but if u are 8 and u play against 10 years old, that means nothing

trust me, i have seen many many many young hockey players here in finland, which has fallen and sometimes if u have only big size u can play against older players

if u even say a word: u10 u are joking..:naughty:

i think that my neighbour's little brother who is 3 years old will be a superstar, because he just started hockey and win's one other guy

LOL

MY POINT IS THAT start to talk about potential when player is at least 14 years old. before that can happend anything

here in finland all kids play same team in age 8-12 doesnt matter how good are, managers hadnt even choosen the a-team and the b-team of every team yet in that age


ps. i do know about danish hockey

sure there are much truth what u are saying but thats just kidding, please i was just laughing :D:D:D

MAN WAU! in the most countries players start to play when they are 7-11 years old, the best u10 is YOUR BIG JOKE!

no bad feelings but if u are 8 and u play against 10 years old, that means nothing

trust me, i have seen many many many young hockey players here in finland, which has fallen and sometimes if u have only big size u can play against older players

if u even say a word: u10 u are joking..:naughty:

Do you feel the irony? Did you feel the ironic tone? Of course i know that it is way too early to tell if he will become a good player.

Was the "joke" really the only thing you could comment? Have you ran out of arguments or are your knowledge of Danish hockey simply too thin to come with statements that you've come with earlier?

the problem for denmark is that media is small and the players must go to develop to sweden.

when they go to sweden real hockey culture and league wont be born and many players will retire because they dont want to move away from home..

2. Hockey is the 2nd most popular sport in Denmark if you look at the attendance(above handball eventhough we are one of the best countries with 3 straight olympic gold medals.)

that was suprise for me, is it really the second popular sport there?

the future looks pretty bad for slovakia and finland, i would rank the 15 biggest like this:

1. canada
2. russia
3. sweden
4. finland
5. czech
6. slovakia
7. usa
8. switzerland
9. germany
10. latvia
11. ukraine
12. belarus
13. denmark
14. norway
15. austria

Russia-2?:biglaugh:
Above of Sweden and Czech?
Czech-5?:biglaugh:
Ukraine-11?:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

More realistic:
1.Canada
2.Sweden
3.Czech
4.Russia
5.Finland
6.USA
7.Slovakia
8.Germany
9.Switzeriland
10.Latvia
11.Belarus
12.Denmark
13.Norway
14.Austria
15.Italy

Ukrainian NT is declining, their best players were born in 1970-75
Then it's no way Russia is above Sweden and Czech. SWE znd CZE are 2 of 3 most succesful teams in the World.

that was suprise for me, is it really the second popular sport there?
Well, it's hard to say precisely.

In terms of spectators, yes, more people go to see live games, but that's also helped by the fact that the average hockey rink seats more people than the average handball arena. I don't have any numbers, but in terms of capacity-%, I'd guess that handball scores higher.

Handball gets much more exposure in terms of live games and coverage in the news, both on TV and radio, and also in print.

Furthermore, handball is popular as both a men's and women's sport, which makes it appealing across genders. Women's hockey barely exists in Denmark.

So, all in all, I'd say that it's unfair to call ice hockey the #2 sport.

the problem for denmark is that media is small and the players must go to develop to sweden.


What do you mean when you say that the media is small? That they media doesn't cover hockey very well?
If that is what you mean then you are right. But hockey has been getting a lot more attention after Frans Nielsen's and Jannik Hansens' NHL debut. This will get even better when they are playing all the games and when Morten Madsen, Kirill Starkov, etc become NHL players.
To make it short: this is not a real problem, it will be solved.

Could you tell me why it's a problem that the top prospects have to go to Sweden if they want to reach the top level?


when they go to sweden real hockey culture and league wont be born and many players will retire because they dont want to move away from home..


Do we not have hockey culture? What do you know about that? If we take Lars Eller and Mikkel Bødker. They are both from Rødovre, which is a hockey crazy community and the mayor is the former keeper.

Players will retire because they don't want to move away from home? nonsense. Name one player that has retired because if this, please.

1. If they don't want to move they don't have to retire, they just stay in Denmark, and will still become good players(but of course not near NHL-potential)

2. The fact that you have to move if you want to reach the top is not special for Danish hockey prospects. It's the same thing in e.g soccer. You have to go to the places that are best at developing top players.
Frölunda is located about 2 hours drive from Copenhagen, so it's not really a big step, and it's certainly not a problem.

that was suprise for me, is it really the second popular sport there?

If you look at the raw numbers of spectators, then yes, hockey is number 2. Soccer is number 1, of course.

In terms of spectators, yes, more people go to see live games, but that's also helped by the fact that the average hockey rink seats more people than the average handball arena. I don't have any numbers, but in terms of capacity-%, I'd guess that handball scores higher.


As long as the arenas aren't full capacity-% is no good. If it was the smaller handball arenas that was the thing that limited the attendance.


Handball gets much more exposure in terms of live games and coverage in the news, both on TV and radio, and also in print.

Furthermore, handball is popular as both a men's and women's sport, which makes it appealing across genders. Women's hockey barely exists in Denmark.

So, all in all, I'd say that it's unfair to call ice hockey the #2 sport.

Please note you that i've not said that hockey was the 2nd most popular sport. I've talked about attendance numbers, and then hockey is 2nd. This totally proves what i was trying to convince - that we actually DO care about hockey.

If you sould rank the sports in overall popularity it would be

1. Soccer
2. Handball
3. Hockey

No doubt.

Well, yes, the sports' respective problems and success have probably allowed cycling to be overtaken by hockey now. But there's still some way to go up to the popularity of handball. Also just in everyday terms. I can't stand handball, but my friends are always talking about it - noone ever talks about hockey, and hockey fans are practically all fans because they come from a hockey town. The same limits don't apply to handball, in my experience.

Well, yes, the sports' respective problems and success have probably allowed cycling to be overtaken by hockey now. But there's still some way to go up to the popularity of handball. Also just in everyday terms. I can't stand handball, but my friends are always talking about it - noone ever talks about hockey, and hockey fans are practically all fans because they come from a hockey town. The same limits don't apply to handball, in my experience.

Well i don't know if i would consider cycling that popular. Besides that you are correct on all accounts.

I don't stand handball either. But to claim that Denmark don't care about hockey just makes me :rant:

:yo:

Russia-2?:biglaugh:
Above of Sweden and Czech?
Czech-5?:biglaugh:
Ukraine-11?:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:

More realistic:
1.Canada
2.Sweden
3.Czech
4.Russia
5.Finland
6.USA
7.Slovakia
8.Germany
9.Switzeriland
10.Latvia
11.Belarus
12.Denmark
13.Norway
14.Austria
15.Italy

Ukrainian NT is declining, their best players were born in 1970-75
Then it's no way Russia is above Sweden and Czech. SWE znd CZE are 2 of 3 most succesful teams in the World.

WELL DUDE if u watch the paper, then russia is allways ahead of czech, sweden and finland, but as u can see sweden and finland plays very good as a team so then u could rank finland and sweden ahead of russia

russia has much more better players than sweden and finland..

the IIHF rankings are:

1. canada
2. sweden
3. finland
4. czech
5. russia
6. slovakia
7. usa

so finland is the 3rd because it plays so well as a team

WELL DUDE if u watch the paper, then russia is allways ahead of czech, sweden and finland, but as u can see sweden and finland plays very good as a team so then u could rank finland and sweden ahead of russia

russia has much more better players than sweden and finland..

the IIHF rankings are:

1. canada
2. sweden
3. finland
4. czech
5. russia
6. slovakia
7. usa

so finland is the 3rd because it plays so well as a team


1.Russia is better than Sweden or Czech on paper? At Olimpics? No.
Russia doesn't have much more better players than this countryies.

Hockey isn't only offence, espescially in inernational tournaments.
And still even at offence, Russia isn't head and shoulders above Sweden or Czech.
Compare, how many suprstars or semi-stars this nations have. Does Russia has advatage?
And there's something wrong with your IIHF rankings, its
1.Sweden
2.Canada
3.Czech
4.Finland
5.Russia

Interesting debate, and i feel you all have valid points. Without doubt danish icehockey is booming right now and that is mainly due to two elements -

1) The national teams succes in the A-POOL over the last 5-6 years.
2) The influx of young talents leaving for Sweden.

Theese two elements have created a nice buzz, which is creating added benefits. Some of theese are in my opinion

1) Better import players in the danish leauge - Especially this year we have seen quite a lot of talent we would not have secured say 2-3 years ago. Players comming directly from the swedish elite leage and the SM liga.
Obviously that creates media interest, more money for the clubs and better chances for the talents who will not go to Sweden, to develope in the danish leage. Exsamples of this are Jannik Hansen, Peter Regin, and future players like Morten Poulsen (J20 WC topscorer for DK), Nichlas Hardt (future national player for DK ).. just to mention some.

2) A benifit is also that the clubs in Sweden and in the NHL have changed their view of Denmark as a solid market for prospects.

3) New and bigger rinks being buildt..

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When that is all said of done, in 3-4 years and 10 years ahead Denmark could have a really solid national team if all the players where availeble each year. Unfortunately they wont. This will hurt us because we dont have the same deepth of top end skills as the big7.
Which is also why i think Denmark will NEVER be a part of the big7. When we have a good showing, we'll surely be able to compete..against the best. We might produce upsets and give teams a scare, but on a constant basis, no way.. unless all our guys are competing , which they wont.

But if we do have 2-4 NHL guys with us every year, i do think we have an excellent chance of being a mainstay team in A-pool.. where we some years might make a crack at the QF's.. while we other years just have to settle with not being relegated.

I do think the talents we see right now is a special crop.. fact is that over the last 10 years we have seen a steady stream of atleast 2-3 players every other year who have 1-2 round skills.
Players like Morten Green, Kim Staal would surely have had a better shot if they where 18 in 2007 than back in the good old days.

But the thought of a national team with --

Lars Eller, Mikkel Bødker, Frans Nielsen, Jannik Hansen, Morten Madsen, Kiril Starkov, Peter Regin who all more or less have a shot of playing in the NHL and if that doesnt pan out are locks in the best leages in Europe (Sweden, Germany, Schweitzerland)

+ stand outs - Kim Staal, Morten Green, Lasse Degn, Kasper Degn.. Jesper Damgaard, Daniel Nielsen..

and then we should not forget about the players who are next in the pipeline, Philip Larsen, Sebastian Svendsen and Mark Mieritz ..

One might notice that most of the players mentioned are offensive talent, and that is our big achielles heel.. We are not producing as much back talent as we should to rreally get a solid team.

But offensively if we where able to compete with all our guys.. we could definately be one of thoose teams that is capable of upsets.. even against the top7.

No matter what it will be fun to watch the progress of all thoose guys in the next 10 years.

i think that my neighbour's little brother who is 3 years old will be a superstar, because he just started hockey and win's one other guy

LOL

MY POINT IS THAT start to talk about potential when player is at least 14 years old. before that can happend anything

here in finland all kids play same team in age 8-12 doesnt matter how good are, managers hadnt even choosen the a-team and the b-team of every team yet in that age


ps. i do know about danish hockey

I think that lil bro is actually getting nervous.

And yes, it is unfair because it's much easier for swedish teams (and schools) to pick up Danish and Norwegian talents.

Same rules, but different languages (or family of languages to be precise).

It's obvious to anyone that Swedish and Finnish hockey is a level above Danish and Norwegian, at least for now.

But it wont last forever, pro sports is driven by money. And where there is money, sports will grow.

I share Kuiskaaja's angst, losing a hockey game against Denmark or Norway would be a national disaster, but I think that it will happen.

It'll take some time, both nations will bounce up and down from group A, but they are learning, and they are getting better.

The teams are getting more professional, the leagues are getting more professional.

And just like the Finnish, Swedish, Russian and other leagues are nibbling on NHL, the younger leagues are nibbling on ours.

They aren't there yet, but they are coming.

in the newst rankings finland is 3rd

it was great in olympics plus 2006 and 2007 wc

1.Russia is better than Sweden or Czech on paper? At Olimpics? No.
Russia doesn't have much more better players than this countryies.

first sweden is NOTHING against russian offense, if u say something else u are kidding or u are stupid. sweden's stars are old but they still got foppa, sundin and alfredson. what does russia have? ovethin, kovaltsuk, datsjuk, malkin, fedorov, yashin, kovalev, gonchar, markov etc..

there is no way sweden or finland is near russia what comes to offense. the defense is pretty much as good, but finland is very good organized team also

in the newst rankings finland is 3rd

it was great in olympics plus 2006 and 2007 wc



first sweden is NOTHING against russian offense, if u say something else u are kidding or u are stupid. sweden's stars are old but they still got foppa, sundin and alfredson. what does russia have? ovethin, kovaltsuk, datsjuk, malkin, fedorov, yashin, kovalev, gonchar, markov etc..

there is no way sweden or finland is near russia what comes to offense. the defense is pretty much as good, but finland is very good organized team also

We're still ranked as 1st due to the lag of the system.

And note that neither Forsberg, Sundin, Alfredsson or Lidström was part of the WC team.

But the Swedish team will be crippled.

We'll have to rely on unknown youngsters like Zetterberg, Kronwall, Lundqvist (x2), Sedin (x2), Bäckström, and others.

Poor us.

But I still think that we have to brace ourselfs for the impossible, losing a national game against Denmark or Norway.

Insane as it might seem, it will happen.

in the newst rankings finland is 3rd

it was great in olympics plus 2006 and 2007 wc



first sweden is NOTHING against russian offense, if u say something else u are kidding or u are stupid. sweden's stars are old but they still got foppa, sundin and alfredson. what does russia have? ovethin, kovaltsuk, datsjuk, malkin, fedorov, yashin, kovalev, gonchar, markov etc..

there is no way sweden or finland is near russia what comes to offense. the defense is pretty much as good, but finland is very good organized team also

:shakehead


Sweden has only Sunin, Foppa and Alfredsson?

Zetterberg, Sedins, Huselius, Pahlsson, Naslund, Holmstrom must be Bulgarian or Portugals.
BTW Gontchar and Markov, where do this FORWARDS play?
And Fedorov is very old and it's a question if he will play for Russia again.

Defence is pretty much AS good?
Then you must be kidding, because defense always was a problem for Russia.
To add, Russia has absolutely no depth at G position,

P.S.Finland is weaker on paper than Sweden or Russia. But Finland has the best goalie depth in Europe.

:shakehead


Sweden has only Sunin, Foppa and Alfredsson?

Zetterberg, Sedins, Huselius, Pahlsson, Naslund, Holmstrom must be Bulgarian or Portugals.
BTW Gontchar and Markov, where do this FORWARDS play?
And Fedorov is very old and it's a question if he will play for Russia again.

Defence is pretty much AS good?
Then you must be kidding, because defense always was a problem for Russia.
To add, Russia has absolutely no depth at G position,

P.S.Finland is weaker on paper than Sweden or Russia. But Finland has the best goalie depth in Europe.

u know thats ********. russia hasnt got bad defense, they just cant play as a team, eventhougth in this years world cups they were very strong, but finland owned them..

players like påhlson, sedins, huselius are allround players and they get ruined if u compare russian virtuoses

P.S.Finland is weaker on paper than Sweden or Russia. But Finland has the best goalie depth in Europe.

actually finland has better defense and goaltending right now and after few years when sundin, foppa, alfie, lidas has retired finland beats also with offense, when we have ruutu, j.jokinen, o.jokinen, m.koivu, kontiola, bergemheim all on their prime

+ filppula

u know thats ********. russia hasnt got bad defense, they just cant play as a team, eventhougth in this years world cups they were very strong, but finland owned them..

players like påhlson, sedins, huselius are allround players and they get ruined if u compare russian virtuoses

1.Russia IS bad on defense compared with Sweden for example. The reasons are: some of Russian TOP D-man aren't good at defense, Russia hasn't much depth at Defense, 3 Zubov and Zhitnik aren't playing for them.
2.Huselius isn't an allround player, actually he's a bit 1-dimensional as many Russians.
Sedins are great players when it comes to offense, they are undoubful best skaters at a goodm playoff team.
3.At this world cup Russia and Canada were clear fovorites, because Sweden and Czech played with their C-teams.

actually finland has better defense and goaltending right now and after few years when sundin, foppa, alfie, lidas has retired finland beats also with offense, when we have ruutu, j.jokinen, o.jokinen, m.koivu, kontiola, bergemheim all on their prime
Better goaltrending? Overall yes, but Swedish TOP goaltrender is very, very good.
Better defense? No,
That's Swedish defense: Lidstrom, Ohlund, Tallinder, Johnsson, N.Kronwall, K.Jonsson, Havelid/Norstrom
That's Finlands: K.Timonen, Salo, Lydman, Numminen(39), Pitkanen, Kukkonen/Nummelin, Vaananen.
Swedish depth players like Backman or Tjarnqvist could have cracked Finnish lineup. MAybe even Walin/Johansson/Oduya/Murray.
Finland hasn't got much depth at defense, look at your WC 2007 roster.

As fore offense, don't forget that Selanne, Lehtinen, Peltonen and S.Koivu aren't young boys too.

That's Swedish defense: Lidstrom, Ohlund, Tallinder, Johnsson, N.Kronwall, K.Jonsson, Havelid/Norstrom
That's Finlands: K.Timonen, Salo, Lydman, Numminen(39), Pitkanen, Kukkonen/Nummelin, Vaananen.

lidas retires and numminen retires.. what then?

salo is better than öhlund
there are not as good dman in swedish defense than kimmo timonen. kronwall is nothing against pitkänen. talinder can play his own place, but i rather take aki berg than him. johnssons are not high leveling dmen. finland has much better defense. u tribute too much players from your country. that is just your oppinion and this is mine

As fore offense, don't forget that Selanne, Lehtinen, Peltonen and S.Koivu aren't young boys too.

exactly.. finland has better young players than sweden

Swedish depth players like Backman or Tjarnqvist

nope they wouldnt never get to finland's olympic roster. nummelin, kukkonen, lehtonen bla bla bla are better than those

we also have ville koistinen and sami lepistö

ville koistinen was selected to ahl's all star team

lidas retires and numminen retires.. what then?

salo is better than öhlund
there are not as good dman in swedish defense than kimmo timonen. kronwall is nothing against pitkänen. talinder can play his own place, but i rather take aki berg than him. johnssons are not high leveling dmen. finland has much better defense. u tribute too much players from your country. that is just your oppinion and this is mine

Berg is better than Tallinder?:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
Kronwall was WC MVP in Riga btw, and Ohlund is playing much more than Salo in Vancouver.

But I don't want to argue more, because it's totally offtopic.;)

Berg is better than Tallinder?:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
Kronwall was WC MVP in Riga btw, and Ohlund is playing much more than Salo in Vancouver.

But I don't want to argue more, because it's totally offtopic.;)

then u are gona lose this one

forst of all may finns have playd very well in wc, but it doesnt matter if year ago some kronwall guy was good in 6 games, thats nothing

the nhl is the right place where u compare your players and that berg was a joke. lydman is much better than talinder at least..

u have alot defensive dmen who plays their own place, but cant carry the team, same goes with öhlund. he plays PK but not PP as much as salo. finnish dmen can carry the team, thats the difference

thats the truth.. sorry to say it man.. no bad feelings..

finland has alot of first round picks in age group 86 but none if them has really showed BIG yet, hopefully next season will tell us more.

sweden has now bäckström and backlund, u cant know yet will those guys come anything

öhlund gets 1-2 minutes more ice time than salo and thats not much

and it doesnt matter how much ice-time u get, salo is better player

teemu selänne gets only 14-15 minutes ice-time in anaheim and he is still the team's superstar and 3rd best scorer of the nhl!

Have anyone pondered how silly it'll look if one single poster would post several trolling posts in a row?

Back to facts, bitter as it might be.

Lars Eller was selected as the first nordic player in the 2007 draft.

Live with it.

Spouting stats wont help, the facts remains.

nope they wouldnt never get to finland's olympic roster. nummelin, kukkonen, lehtonen bla bla bla are better than those

Backam is an NHL third or fourth D, Kukkonen and Lethonen are AHL Dmen

I think this thread has went OT.

Backam is an NHL third or fourth D, Kukkonen and Lethonen are AHL Dmen

:biglaugh:

thanks!

kukkonen played philadelphias first pair dman last season, and he led the nhl roockies with blocked shots

Kuiskaaja If you want to discuss Sweden vs Finland create a new tread.

Arguing with a guy that thinks Berg>Tallinder must be a hard thing though.:sarcasm:

Denmark
Frans Nielsen (C AHL/NHL New York Islanders), Jannik Hansen (LW AHL/NHL Vancouver).
Morton Madsen (C AHL Minnesota), Kiril Starkov (RW AHL Columbus).
Lars Eller (C Allvenskan Borås St.Louis)

Mikkel Bodker (F Swe J20 Forlunda 2008), Philip Larsen (OD Swe J20 Forlunda 2008).
Sebastian Dahm (G Undrafted 2005 Sudbury), Oliver Lauridsen(DD Undrafted 2007 J20 - Linköpings).

Mark Mieritz (F DEN J16? Rødovre?), Sebastian Svendsen (F DEN J16? Rødovre?),


Nielsen - Eller - Bodker
Svendsen - Mieritz -
Hansen - Madsen - Starkov

Larsen - Lauridsen

Dahm

In a best case development scenario, that ends up being a pretty good backbone for Team Denmark in 10 years. Many of those players might be 1st or 2nd line forwards in the NHL, while a few might even be stars.

The question is, how are the young defensive and goaltending prospects looking beacuse that definately seems like it could be a weakness.

Note: I have a good list of NHL players or prospects from team's outside of the 'Big 7', and while Denmark's list is looking very good, Germany and Switzerland look like they should be able to keep pace at the very least.

Germany
Marco Strum (RW NHL Boston), Christian Ehrhoff (D NHL SJ), Marcel Goc (C NHL SJ), Denis Seidenberg (D NHL Carolina), Christoph Schubert (D/W NHL Ottawa), Jochen Hecht (F NHL Buffalo).
Thomas Greiss (AHL San Jose)

Felix Schutz (QMJHL - Buffalo - Centre)
Philipp Gogulla (RW DEL Buffalo), Timo Pielmeier (G DEL San Jose), Sebastian Stefaniszin (G DEL Anaheim), Denis Ruel (D DEL Boston), Robert Dietrich (D DEL Nashville)

Switzerland
David Aebischer (G NHL Montreal), Martin Gerber (G NHL Ottawa), Mark Streit (LW/D NHL Montreal), Patrick Fischer (RW NHL Phoenix),
Tim Ramholt (D AHL Calgary), Timo Helbling (D AHL Buffalo), Tobias Stephan (G AHL Dallas), Juraj Simek (RW AHL? Vancouver).

Luca Cunti (C USHL? Tampa Bay), Yannik Weber (OD OHL Montreal), Kevin Romy (D ??? Philly), Philipe Furer (Rangers), Goran Bezina (Phoenix)

*Aebischer and Gerber would probably be retired by then.

Nice review tb0ne. I don't know if you've read this thread already, if not you might find it interesting - Danish prospects (http://forums.internationalhockey.net/showthread.php?p=86819)

Small corrections and additions. You forgot Danish forward Peter Regin(Timrå) he is really starting to become a truly great player.

Mark Mieritz and Sebastian Svendsen has signed contracts with Frölunda, so they will play there next season.

Philip Larsen is playing pro on Frölunda's eliteserie team next season.

EDIT:
But you are right about our defense and goaltending. This is our main problem. We have a solid pair in Philip Larsen and Oliver Lauridsen. Then in our domestic league we have a 20-year old guy(Stefan Lassen), and he could turn out to be important too. He was one of our top d-men at the IHWC.

The NT captain, Jesper Damgaard will also continue for some years.

butcher would u like to list those danish players stats in ahl?
i would really like to see how much points they had made

Go search yourself. Only Frans Nielsen and Jannik Hansen played in the AHL last year.

EDIT:

Okay i'm nice today.

Frans Nielsen:
NHL - 15GP 1G+1A 2P total
AHL - 54GP 20G+24A 44P total

Jannik Hansen:
NHL - 10GP 0G+1A 1P total
AHL - 72GP 12G+22A 34Ptotal

Go search yourself. Only Frans Nielsen and Jannik Hansen played in the AHL last year.

thanks! you are very helpfull

Go search yourself. Only Frans Nielsen and Jannik Hansen played in the AHL last year.

EDIT:

Okay i'm nice today.

Frans Nielsen:
NHL - 15GP 1G+1A 2P total
AHL - 54GP 20G+24A 44P total

Jannik Hansen:
NHL - 10GP 0G+1A 1P total
AHL - 72GP 12G+22A 34Ptotal


Do you know if Starkov and Madsen are making the move to the AHL next year?

Do you know if Starkov and Madsen are making the move to the AHL next year?

Without being 100% sure i say that they will. Since they are already playing in NA and have recently signed contract with their respective clubs i think it's way the best option.

EDIT:
I've just been checking up on this, and i think it's safe to say that both will play in the AHL next year.

i really hope that those guys will explode next season in nhl!

i really hope that those guys will explode next season in nhl!

Me too! Jannik Hansen should really have made a lot more points. In more than one of the games he played he was one of the absolute best forwards.

i would like to see some danish player playing in sm-liiga, but the language might be the problem, so they rather go to sweden which is obviously also closer..

Me too! Jannik Hansen should really have made a lot more points. In more than one of the games he played he was one of the absolute best forwards.

As a Vancouver fan who watched all of Hansen's games during the playoffs I would definatly agree, but honestly I can't get a read on what his offensive upside is going to be.

Even in the AHL I remember Manitoba Moose fans saying that they were suprised Hansen wasn't scoring more. He was often an offensive threat but sometimes seemed to lack the ability to finish (and it's not like he has an weak shot or anything, although sometimes his accuracy seems abit lacking). He definatly needs to gain weight, and if he can I'd be shocked if he ends up anything less than a high end third liner.

Either way I can't wait to see how he progresses next season.

Oh i almost forgot. We should also mention Mads Bødker, Mikkel's brother. He is a small and offensive d-man, and will prove to be very important. He has already played 2 IHWC's for Denmark.


Even in the AHL I remember Manitoba Moose fans saying that they were suprised Hansen wasn't scoring more. He was often an offensive threat but sometimes seemed to lack the ability to finish (and it's not like he has an weak shot or anything, although sometimes his accuracy seems abit lacking). He definatly needs to gain weight, and if he can I'd be shocked if he ends up anything less than a high end third liner.


Yes and i really don't get why he isn't scoring more. Actually he has a stellar wrist shot(maybe not that accurate, as you mention, but it's hard).

He really has to work on this, and then i hope to see him make a lot more points next season. I trust he will.

Me too! Jannik Hansen should really have made a lot more points. In more than one of the games he played he was one of the absolute best forwards.

I agree with you there. Jannik was my favorite player when he played here for the Winter Hawks (we sure coulda used this last season!!). He certainly looked good in his games with the Canucks, even if his numbers may not show it. Also, we should point out that Nielsen's numbers were in the regular season, while Hansen's numbers are from the playoffs. He was actually put on the starting line for his second game. Congratulations to Danish Hockey indeed. :cheers:

Jeg elsker Jannik Hansen!

He could definitely crack the Canucks lineup if he has another solid training camp. Canucks even have a top six spot open on the right side.

Too bad Eller was already drafted by the time the Canucks were up. He said the Canucks were his favourite team.

And from a purely nationalistic viewpoint.

It's so much better winning over a good danish (or norwegian) team, than a bad one.

And the sweden-finland games, however glorious, are getting a bit old.

I think both of the eastern parts (Sweden and Finland) would like, and quite frankly gain, from our western brothers kicking into gear.

We're not that different, except that danish is, well danish.

And quite frankly, Norway has an issue when Denmark is better at a winter sport. Please get upset, and get better.

If you look at the raw numbers of spectators, then yes, hockey is number 2. Soccer is number 1, of course.

When I was in Denmark (ok, about 15 years ago), I saw a lot more ping pong and handball on tv than hockey. (??)

Hockey was rarely televised. I guess that's changed.

And how is Herlev doing these days?

When I was in Denmark (ok, about 15 years ago), I saw a lot more ping pong and handball on tv than hockey. (??)

Hockey was rarely televised. I guess that's changed.

And how is Herlev doing these days?

Haha an American with a Herlev avatar :)

Ping pong is very rarely televised. Handball is still all over the place, unfortunately. Hockey wasn't broadcasted at all at that time. However the last couple of years(5 or so) about 5-10 games from the regular season and all playoff matches has been broadcasted.

TV2 has launced a new sports channel so next season we will se a lot more regular season and of course games from all rounds of the playoff.

Herlev isn't doing so well. Last season they finished last and fired the coach during the season(Olaf Eller, Lars Eller's farther). But that didn't help a thing, but it helped Frederikshavn(who hired Olaf Eller) a lot.

Nice that Eller was picked as 13 even though that was a bit surprisingly high. Backlund would have been picked much earlier were it not for his injuries.

Nice that things are going on in Denmark but don´t forget:
Last season U16: Sweden-Norway 16-0
Sweden-Denmark 13-1

Seems like they will have to struggle pretty much still...

Nice that Eller was picked as 13 even though that was a bit surprisingly high. Backlund would have been picked much earlier were it not for his injuries.

Nice that things are going on in Denmark but don´t forget:
Last season U16: Sweden-Norway 16-0
Sweden-Denmark 13-1

Seems like they will have to struggle pretty much still...

What about Eller's injuries? That comment wasn't justified IMO.

And those results is nonsense IMO. When was those games played? Did they mean anything?

If that is the way we should measure the succes we could also look at the 2005 u18 championship where Denmark almost managed to stay up. And look at results like this:
Russia-Denmark 2-1
Denmark-Sweden 1-3
Finland-Denmark 3-2

All from the same tournament. Blowouts are bound to happen once in a while against the big nations, so posting 1 result is just nonsense IMO.

Eller played last season at least. Backlund did not play much, and he was also always ranked higher than Eller. Enough of that, they can both become very good players.
The tournament you´re asking about was last years Nordic Cup U16. Sweden has an extremely talented team in that age group so it´s not surprising though.

And the sweden-finland games, however glorious, are getting a bit old.

Actually, I've never heard anyone to say that Fin-Swe is getting old? I think that Sweden-Finland is one of the biggest rival out there in the National event. I'm always looking forward to see them play more than any other games. Finland is always looking up to Swedish in every sport, and comparing our competitors to yours, not just in ice hockey. I could never imagine that Denmark or Norway could bring that much emotion into a hockey game than sweden does to Finland (or opposite?). Of course it might be different thing for Sweden, but when it comes to hockey, I's hard to believe. Just my opinion.

Actually, I've never heard anyone to say that Fin-Swe is getting old? I think that Sweden-Finland is one of the biggest rival out there in the National event. I'm always looking forward to see them play more than any other games. Finland is always looking up to Swedish in every sport, and comparing our competitors to yours, not just in ice hockey. I could never imagine that Denmark or Norway could bring that much emotion into a hockey game than sweden does to Finland (or opposite?). Of course it might be different thing for Sweden, but when it comes to hockey, I's hard to believe. Just my opinion.

I think it's a bit different here, maybe because we're more in the middle of the nordic countries.
But sure, in hockey and athletics Finland is the arch enemy but Denmark is the arch enemy in soccer. And soccer is tad bigger.

I don't many over here would be very excited over a game of handball between Sweden and Finland, but again, Denmark and it becomes life or death.

The hockey games against Finland will remain a big thing, esp at WC and Olympics, but I think that it'll be even more fun when Denmark and Norway joins the fray.

You are just so far of that i really don't get why you try to go into this discussion. It's clear that you don't have the insight in Danish hockey that makes you able to really discuss this IMO.

Butcher, please relax. Keep in mind that international interest in Danish hockey has only started recently. Also, please give credit where credit is due. Most of the things you have written in this thread is something that others (me in particular) have written on another site.

The truth is that you didn't knew about Mark Mieritz, Mikkel Bødker, Lars Eller, Nikolaj Krag Kristensen etc. etc. until recently. So please don't pretend to be an expert on Danish hockey.

Anyone wishing to get the unfiltered insights on Danish hockey should visit International Hockey Forums (http://forums.internationalhockey.net).

If i've seemed like the über-expert on Danish prospects, then please note that this was never my intention. I just try to pass on information to people who might be interested.
It is true, that i've learned a lot from IHF(i can only urge people to visit the board) and especially from you, Karsten. I've always been impressed with your deep hockey knowledge, not just on Danish prospects.

It is also true, that you have been the one that has introduced me to some of those players you mention. You have a lot of hard-to-get knowledge(partly because of your proximity to Rødovre, i guess).

However i've of cause also used information from others sites to collect the information - mainly Danhockey.dk and hockeymagasinet.dk(back when it was good).

OT: Sorry lads!

Is there any danish hockey sites in english? (my danish is pretty weak at moment) Of cource I understand that Ice Hockey is not topping the headlines in Denmark!
I just moved 5 months ago from Finland to København and it would be nice to see how my fellow countrymen are doing in AL-bank Ligaen! Expecially to see if just transferred J.Loponen (from my hometown team Kärpät) can make some sort of effort in Herning Blue Fox! =)

Hi Haki,

There are no Danish hockey sites in English. However, just check. forums.internationalhockey.net for updates. We will keep the AL-bank ligaen updated with scores, standings etc.

I am from Herning myself.

team denmark/scania

brunnstrom-jonsson-soderberg
tjarnqvist-regin-lundqvist
staal-mattson-paulsson
hansen-eller-jakob johansson
thuresson/hardt

jonsson-johnsson
tjarnqvist-lilja
daamgard-bjork
jens olsson-hersley


lundqvist
nilstorp
hirsh


:yo:


**** sweden !;)

Butcher, please relax. Keep in mind that international interest in Danish hockey has only started recently. Also, please give credit where credit is due. Most of the things you have written in this thread is something that others (me in particular) have written on another site.

The truth is that you didn't knew about Mark Mieritz, Mikkel Bødker, Lars Eller, Nikolaj Krag Kristensen etc. etc. until recently. So please don't pretend to be an expert on Danish hockey.

Anyone wishing to get the unfiltered insights on Danish hockey should visit International Hockey Forums (http://forums.internationalhockey.net).

So Butcher needs to add footnotes to appease the Danish Hockey writing Gods? I do not doubt your intellect Karsten but it is a shame it is overwhelmed by your arrogance.

so how many danish players are in the NHL or ever made it to the NHL?

so how many danish players are in the NHL or ever made it to the NHL?

Frans Nielsen and Jannik Hansen are the only two born and trained in Denmark. Neilsen just signed a 2-3 year contract and I'm sure you know all about Hansen.

It's quite possible Boedker will join that list this season and Ottawa prospect Peter Regin might see a call-up if his first AHL season goes well.

Minnesota - Morten Madsen, struggled offensively in the AHL last year but he's still young and might be put back on their prospect radar screen with a solid 2nd season.

Columbus - Kirill Starkov, bounced between the ECHL and Central Hockey League's last season because of Columbus's depth at the AHL level. I'm unsure if he's still in their plans..

St.Louis - Lars Eller, likely playing his first full season the SEL this year. Should be in the NHL in a season or two.

So Butcher needs to add footnotes to appease the Danish Hockey writing Gods? I do not doubt your intellect Karsten but it is a shame it is overwhelmed by your arrogance.

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing! :sarcasm:

Apparently Mikkel Bødker scored his first NHL goal yesterday, so congrats are in order :handclap:

It's great to see more and more Danes at the top level :cheers:

Yes, congrats.

Seeing Bødker score made me smile. :)

The Danes (Jannik, Frans and Bødker) have started the season very well, all with 2 points after 4 games (Hansen 5 games).

Update on four Danish prospects for this year's draft,

Mark Mieritz has 5G, 8A, 13P in 13GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
Sebastian Svendsen has 3G, 3A, 6P, in 13GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 4G, 7A, 11P in 12 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen hasn't played yet for St.Cloud in the NCAA, aparantly there was some sort of clearance issue that was just figured out now.

http://www.truveo.com/Icehockey-Oliver-Lauridsen/id/2099737902
Video featuring the 6'6 giant.

you missed one Tb0ne.....;)

Simon Gronvaldt from Kitchener Rangers in the O.
Born '91, he is a 6'2/179, left shot Dman.
11gp 1g 1a

Frans Nielsen NHL 7GP 0G 2A 2PTS
Jannik Hansen NHL 8GP 3G 1A 4PTS
Mikkel Boedker NHL 7GP 3G 0A 3PTS

They seem to be doing ok

Update on five Danish prospects for this year's draft,

RW Mark Mieritz has 5G, 8A, 13P in 15GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 4A, 8P, in 15GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 13P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 4G, 8A, 12P in 14 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 0A, 0P, in 2GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastien Dahm has split time between the AHL (2GP) and ECHL (1GP). His numbers in both leagues are below a .900 save percentage and over 4.0GAA.

Updated on drafted players,

Jannik Hansen has 3G, 1A, 4P in 8GP for the Vancouver Canucks.
Mikkel Boedker has 3G, 0A, 3P, in 7GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Frans Nielsen has 0G, 2A, 2P in 7GP for the New York Islanders.

Morten Madsen has 2G, 2A, 4P in 7GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Peter Regin has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 4GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 1G, 2P, in 4GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 2G, 3A, 5P in 13GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis).
Philip Larsen has 0G, 1A, 1P in 16GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

Hansen got 2 assists yesterday against the Ducks.:) He might be injured though sigh.:(

Update on five Danish prospects for this year's draft,

RW Mark Mieritz has 5G, 8A, 13P in 15GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 4A, 8P, in 15GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 13P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 4G, 8A, 12P in 14 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 0A, 0P, in 2GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastien Dahm has split time between the AHL (2GP) and ECHL (1GP). His numbers in both leagues are below a .900 save percentage and over 4.0GAA.

Updated on drafted players,

Jannik Hansen has 3G, 1A, 4P in 8GP for the Vancouver Canucks.
Mikkel Boedker has 3G, 0A, 3P, in 7GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Frans Nielsen has 0G, 2A, 2P in 7GP for the New York Islanders.

Morten Madsen has 2G, 2A, 4P in 7GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Peter Regin has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 4GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 1G, 2P, in 4GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 2G, 3A, 5P in 13GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis).
Philip Larsen has 0G, 1A, 1P in 16GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

The disappointing thing on Hardt, is he had one amazing game, 5 points along side none other than Jesper Damgaard. I hope when Damgaard is back, Hardt will flourish again, as he's seemed a bit lost the last few games.

All in all as a fan of the Danish national team, I am wrapped that the youth has come along so well. In 3-4 years I honestly believe they will be challenging with the other 'top 7 teams', and capable of upsetting them all.

Frans Nielsen NHL 7GP 0G 2A 2PTS
Jannik Hansen NHL 8GP 3G 1A 4PTS
Mikkel Boedker NHL 7GP 3G 0A 3PTS

They seem to be doing ok

Update:

Frans Nielsen
GP G A P +/-
14 2 5 7 -4

Hansen got 2 assists tonight.

Looks like Nielsen will be out for a while after Mike Mottau caught him with a nasty elbow to the head. He went down very awkwardly and it looks as if his ankle or knee is hurt.

November 23rd Update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 5G, 8A, 13P in 20GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 5A, 9P, in 18GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 5A, 6P, in 23P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 5G, 12A, 17P in 23 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 0A, 0P, in 6GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (4GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.913 Save Percentage and 3.13 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,

Jannik Hansen has 3G, 7A, 10P in 17GP for the Vancouver Canucks.
Mikkel Boedker has 5G, 5A, 10P, in 19GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Frans Nielsen has 2G, 7A, 9P in 19GP for the New York Islanders. Update: Out 2-3 Months.

Morten Madsen has 3G, 3A, 6P in 17GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Peter Regin has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 6GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa). Update: Appears to have returned from an injury.
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 1G, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 4G, 3A, 7P in 21GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis).
Philip Larsen has 0G, 4A, 1P in 24GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

Frans will be out 2-3 months

Frans will be out 2-3 months

That sucks, he who recently found the mood for putting up numbers more or less in every game :(
And he was promoted to the 2nd line, right?

Otherwise, great thread. The danes sucess in this years NHL is a clear sign of danish hockey on the rise. Great!
Now we're waiting for Norway to produce some real talent, and then... How about the hockey nation Iceland?

But hide your women danes... I'm coming down to you guyses this summer! :nod:

Dont worry we had our charre af Swedish girls, so please help your self.

Dont worry we had our charre af Swedish girls, so please help your self.

Swedish?!

You mean.. Scanian girls...

Gosh! :loony:

January 8th Update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 7G, 9A, 16P in 25GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 6A, 10P, in 23GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 6A, 7P, in 33P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 6G, 12A, 17P in 28 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 12GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (9GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.898 Save Percentage and 3.25 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,


Mikkel Boedker has 7G, 11A, 18P, in 40GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jannik Hansen has 4G, 13A, 17P in 37GP for the Vancouver Canucks. Update: Recalled from Manitoba.
Jannik Hansen has 1G, 0A, 1P in 2GP for the Manitoba Moose.
Frans Nielsen has 2G, 7A, 9P in 19GP for the New York Islanders. Update: Out 2-3 Months.

Peter Regin has 6G, 7A, 13P, in 24GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa).
Morten Madsen has 3G, 8A, 11P in 30GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 1G, 2P, in 9GP for the CSKA Moscow (Columbus).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2G, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 8G, 4A, 12P in 31GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis).
Philip Larsen has 1G, 6A, 7P in 36GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

Peter Regin has been called up by the Sens. This means we now have 4 Danes playing in the NHL at the same time. Not bad considering the first NHL contract ever signed by a Dane was in 2006.

January 22nd Update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 7G, 9A, 16P in 26GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 6A, 10P, in 23GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 6A, 7P, in 40P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 8G, 12A, 20P in 35 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 16GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (14GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.904 Save Percentage and 2.95 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,


Mikkel Boedker has 8G, 13A, 21P, in 48GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jannik Hansen has 5G, 13A, 19P in 42GP for the Vancouver Canucks.
Jannik Hansen has 1G, 0A, 1P in 2GP for the Manitoba Moose.
Frans Nielsen has 2G, 10A, 12P in 24GP for the New York Islanders. Update: Returned from injury, already played 5 games.
Peter Regin has 0G, 0A, 0P, in 1GP for the Ottawa Senators. Update: Made a 1 game appearance in the NHL after breaking out offensively in the AHL.

Peter Regin has 8G, 13A, 21P, in 30GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa).
Morten Madsen has 3G, 12A, 15P in 36GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2G, 3P, in 12GP for the CSKA Moscow (Columbus).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2G, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 8G, 5A, 13P in 35GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis).
Philip Larsen has 1G, 7A, 8P in 40GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

Peter Regin scored his first NHL goal tonight to win the game for Ottawa.

February 17th Update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 7G, 9A, 16P in 25GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
RW Mark Mieritz has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 8GP in U20's playoffs.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 6A, 10P, in 23GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 2G, 0A, 2P, in 8GP in U20's playoffs.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 8A, 9P, in 51P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 11G, 14A, 25P in 40 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 23GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (21GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.915 Save Percentage and 2.65 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,


Mikkel Boedker has 9G, 14A, 23P, in 43GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jannik Hansen has 6G, 15A, 21P in 50GP for the Vancouver Canucks.
Jannik Hansen has 1G, 0A, 1P in 2GP for the Manitoba Moose.
Frans Nielsen has 3G, 14A, 17P in 33GP for the New York Islanders. 8 points in 14GP since returning from injury.
Peter Regin has 1G, 0A, in 6GP for the Ottawa Senators.

Peter Regin has 9G, 16A, 25P, in 39GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa).
Morten Madsen has 4G, 13A, 17P in 40GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 1G, 2P, in 16GP for the CSKA Moscow (Columbus).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2G, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 10G, 11A, 21P in 43GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis). Has 9 points in his last 12GP.
Philip Larsen has 1G, 10A, 11P in 48GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

Frans Nielsen has 3G, 14A, 17P in 33GP for the New York Islanders. 8 points in 14GP since returning from injury.

Frans is really doing a good job of proving his worth. Its also worth mentioning he scored in the shootout Monday against Pitts. But Tambellini got the last SO goal, so no point for Frans.

February 27th Update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 7G, 9A, 16P in 25GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
RW Mark Mieritz has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 10GP in U20's playoffs.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 6A, 10P, in 23GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 2G, 0A, 2P, in 10GP in U20's playoffs.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/J20Sodra/page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 8A, 9P, in 55P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 12G, 14A, 26P in 43 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 23GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (23GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.914 Save Percentage and 2.7 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,


Mikkel Boedker has 10G, 14A, 24P, in 61GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jannik Hansen has 6G, 15A, 21P in 52GP for the Vancouver Canucks. Broke a finger, expected to miss 3-4 weeks.
Jannik Hansen has 1G, 0A, 1P in 2GP for the Manitoba Moose.
Frans Nielsen has 3G, 16A, 19P in 38GP for the New York Islanders. 10 points in 19GP since returning from injury.
Peter Regin has 1G, 0A, in 6GP for the Ottawa Senators.

Peter Regin has 10G, 22A, 32P, in 43GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa). Has 7 points in his last 4GP.
Morten Madsen has 4G, 13A, 17P in 40GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 18GP for the CSKA Moscow (Columbus).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 11G, 14A, 25P in 47GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis). Has 13 points in his last 16GP.
Philip Larsen has 2G, 15A, 17P in 48GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas). Has 6 points in his last 4GP.

March 19th Update

RW Mark Mieritz has 7G, 9A, 16P in 25GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
RW Mark Mieritz has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 10GP in U20's playoffs.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 4G, 6A, 10P, in 23GP with U20 Frölunda HC.
C Sebastian Svendsen has 2G, 0A, 2P, in 10GP in U20's playoffs.

http://stats.swehockey.se/0809/html/.../page0041.html

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 8A, 9P, in 55P with the Kitchener Rangers in the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 12G, 14A, 26P in 43 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan as a rookie.
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 0G, 1A, 1P, in 23GP with St.Cloud State in the NCAA as a rookie.
87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the AHL (24GP) and ECHL (1GP). He has a 0.914 Save Percentage and 2.66 GAA in the AHL.

Updated on drafted players,

Mikkel Boedker has 10G, 15A, 25P, in 69GP for the Phoenix Coyotes.
Jannik Hansen has 6G, 15A, 21P in 52GP for the Vancouver Canucks. Broke a finger, expected to miss 3-4 weeks.
Jannik Hansen has 1G, 0A, 1P in 2GP for the Manitoba Moose.
Frans Nielsen has 5G, 20A, 25P in 47GP for the New York Islanders.
Peter Regin has 1G, 1A, in 11GP for the Ottawa Senators.

Peter Regin has 15G, 25A, 40P, in 43GP for the Binghamton Senators (Ottawa). Has 15? points in his last 7GP.
Morten Madsen has 5G, 15A, 20P in 48GP for the Houston Aeros (Minnesota).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 18GP for the CSKA Moscow (Columbus).
Kirill Starkov has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 9GP for the Syracuse Crunch (Columbus).

Lars Eller has 11G, 14A, 25P in 47GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (St.Louis). Has 13 points in his last 16GP.
Lars Eller had 2G, 0A, 2P, in 5GP for Frölunda's SEL squad in the playoffs. I assume they lost the series.
Philip Larsen has 2G, 15A, 17P in 48GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas). Has 6 points in his last 4GP.
Philip Larsen had 2G, 1A, 3P, in 5GP for Frölunda's SEL squad in the playoffs.

Mikkel Bødker-Frans Nielsen-Jannik Hansen
Peter Regin-Lars Eller-Kim Staal
Nichlas Hardt-Morten Green-Morten Madsen
Kirill Starkov-Sebastian Svendsen-Mark Mieritz




Jesper Damgaard-Mads Bødker
Daniel Nielsen-Philip Larsen
Andreas Andreasen-Stefan Lassen
Morten Dahlmann


Peter Hirsch
Patrick Galbraith



Denmark are much better then Norway :yo:

Denmark are much better then Norway :yo:

We'll see about that in Vancouver, won't we?






Oh, wait... :D

Mikkel Bødker-Frans Nielsen-Jannik Hansen
Peter Regin-Lars Eller-Kim Staal
Nichlas Hardt-Morten Green-Morten Madsen
Kirill Starkov-Sebastian Svendsen-Mark Mieritz

Jesper Damgaard-Mads Bødker
Daniel Nielsen-Philip Larsen
Andreas Andreasen-Stefan Lassen
Morten Dahlmann

Peter Hirsch
Patrick Galbraith

Denmark are much better then Norway :yo:

Andreas Andreasen and Morten Dahlmann probably won't see much action for Denmark in the future, since better players have emerged. If Hirsch can get his career back on track, he should be able to claim an spot on the team. However longterm the tandem of Patrick Galbraith and Sebastian Dahm will have to carry the team.

We'll see about that in Vancouver, won't we?

Oh, wait... :D

I guess we'll know it by next month when they face off in Switzerland :naughty:.

We'll see about that in Vancouver, won't we?






Oh, wait... :D

And why is it that Norway will be at the olympics? Because most of their best players are in Sweden, not the NHL = Denmark is so much better than Norway that the top players were unavailable. If we get the NHLers for the IHWC, Norway should get blown away ;)

And why is it that Norway will be at the olympics? Because most of their best players are in Sweden, not the NHL = Denmark is so much better than Norway that the top players were unavailable. If we get the NHLers for the IHWC, Norway should get blown away ;)

Hopefully IIHF/NHL look at opening up the next World Cup to more teams. That said it seems like you guys could have Nielsen, Boedker and possibly Regin and Madsen as well to help take out those post Olympic qualifier frustrations. Hansen on the other hand... we'll see.. but it seems like this Canucks team might do something during these playoffs.

Denmark is so much better than Norway that the top players were unavailable.

Yeah, all three of them. ;) No, seriously, it represents an astounding and encouraging jump for Danish hockey to have produced two such highly rated prospects as Eller and Bødker - something which Norway is yet to be close to doing. Bodes well for the future, and excellent news both for Scandinavian hockey and hockey at large. I doubt however that they would have made a fundamental difference already at this stage. And we were missing important players too, of whom at least one plays regularly in the NHL.

Denmark are much better then Norway

If recent history shows anything, it is rather that they are of very comparable quality. Norway's drawn the longest straw pretty consistently the last few years, before that Denmark always seemed to do so - but the games have almost always been close. The makings of a pretty good rivalry there, I think.

Anyway, both have made huge progress over the last decades. 30 years ago, both Norwegian and Danish hockey was a joke. 20 years ago, Norway had clawed its way up to respectability - they made the WC A-pool in 1990 (and this was the old 8-team format), while Denmark was still struggling to stay in the B-pool. 10 years ago, Norwegian hockey had (relatiavely speaking) regressed, while the Danes had now made the jump to a somewhat higher level - at least they beat us most of the time. As of now, both countries seem to have developed to a higher level, being fairly stable in the A-pool at a very even level.

I think a big factor for both has been the disappearance of the foreigner quotas in the european leagues, which has paved the way for much more players going to the SEL thahn before - often at a very early age. In essence, the excellent Swedish system is now developing the top Norwegian and Danish talent as well as the Swedish, to a significant extent. This however won't solve the underlying problem of small player bases and few rinks - as long as that prevails, neither country is going to be anything close to Finland or Sweden as hockey powers. And in this area progress has been limited, at least in Norway.

cheers

If recent history shows anything, it is rather that they are of very comparable quality. Norway's drawn the longest straw pretty consistently the last few years, before that Denmark always seemed to do so - but the games have almost always been close. The makings of a pretty good rivalry there, I think.


You are right Qvist. Norway and Denmark are extremely close, as history shows. Sometimes i just get carried away. Mostly when i'm annoyed because Norway always seem to win the important games. And then i can't help to think what would have happened if we have had our best team at this IHWC.

top lines like this.
Jannik Hansen-Frans Nielsen-Lars Eller
Mikkel Bødker-Peter Regin-Kim Staal

Besides that our defense was very, very thin due to injuries. I'm not whining or anything, but i just can't help to think. I really think we would have won bigtime if that was the case.

Anyway, looking forward to the next game :)

what will help danish national team is that galbraith might play in sweden next season while mads christensen and daniel nielsen will likely play in the DEL.

the more players in better leagues the better. and they will still be available for national team every year unlike NHLers who are no sure things.

what will help danish national team is that galbraith might play in sweden next season while mads christensen and daniel nielsen will likely play in the DEL.

the more players in better leagues the better. and they will still be available for national team every year unlike NHLers who are no sure things.

Absolutely. In addition Kasper Degn will also play in the DEL next season - he promoted with his team.

Absolutely. In addition Kasper Degn will also play in the DEL next season - he promoted with his team.

not yet. ;)

bietigheim is trying to get promoted, but they don't have the arena size that is needed. so they will either have to move or get an exemption. the chances are 50% at the moment i'd say.

i hope mads christensen comes to my hometown team. i know that our coach scouted a lot in denmark.

not yet. ;)

bietigheim is trying to get promoted, but they don't have the arena size that is needed. so they will either have to move or get an exemption. the chances are 50% at the moment i'd say.

i hope mads christensen comes to my hometown team. i know that our coach scouted a lot in denmark.

Interesting, there hasn't been anything about that in the Danish media. So you are a Norwegian living in Germany or a German living in Norway?

Interesting, there hasn't been anything about that in the Danish media. So you are a Norwegian living in Germany or a German living in Norway?

a german living in germany who rooted for pal grotnes at the WC. :D

a german living in germany who rooted for pal grotnes at the WC. :D

Kind of strange to have a Norwegian flag in your profile for that reason if you ask me, but whatever floats your boat :nod:

Stars fan here, and a budding Philip Larsen fan as well. I've been following this kid from the periphery since we drafted him last year and he looks to be a steal in the 5th round. If he continues to develop like our 2007 5th rounder (Jamie Benn) then I will be very pleased. I saw that he played a lot of minutes for the Danish National team at the WC's, but only got to see a few highlights. Have any of you seen him play in person, and if so can you tell me how you think he compares to other players on his team (whether that be team Denmark or Frolunda). And by compares I don't mean "he plays like so and so". I mean, is there anything about him that looks "special", that separates him from others.
Thanks in advance.

What i see is how amazingly calm he looks. He looks extremely confident, both for team Denmark and Frölunda. Eventhough he is in his own zone with a forward he skates smoothly and make a few spins until he is out of danger.

so Peter Regin has made the team in Ottawa, and has been one of our better players...has had time as the second line center, but will likely be shifted alot to the third as well...had 2 goals already in the first 3 games I think

Frans should be making his first start of the season tonight. (returning from injury during camp)

Denmark is going to get NHL player number 5 when Lars Eller gets his debut with St. Louis tonight!!

Denmark is going to get NHL player number 5 when Lars Eller gets his debut with St. Louis tonight!!

how is ellers development coming?

Febuary 21st 2010 update:

RW Mark Mieritz has 5G, 9A, 14P in 20GP with U20 Frölunda HC.

C Sebastian Svendsen has 7G, 4A, 11P, in 52GP Split between the Vancouver Giants and Edmonton Oil kings both of the WHL.

LD Simon Gronvaldt has 1G, 10A, 11P, in 39GP Split between the Barrie Colts and the Niagra Ice Dogs both of the OHL.

Overagers,
88 born Nichlas Hardt has 16G, 19A, 35P in 47 GP with IF Malmö Redhawks in Sweden's Allsvenskan in his second year

87 born Sebastian Dahm has split time between the ECHL (17GP) and IHL (6GP) (With one stint in the AHL with no GP). He has a .901 SV% and a 3.20 GAA in the ECHL and in the IHL he has a .898 SV% and a 3.23 GAA

Updated on drafted players,
89 born Oliver Lauridsen has 6G, 5A, 11P, in 34GP in his second year with St.Cloud State. (Drafted 7th round by the Philadelphia Flyers)

Mikkel Boedker has 1G, 2A, 3P, in 14GP for the Phoenix Coyotes and he has 8G 16A 24P in 40GP with the San Antonio Rampage of the AHL

Jannik Hansen has 6G, 4A, 10P in 27GP for the Vancouver Canucks.

Jannik Hansen has 0G, 2A, 2P in 5GP for the Manitoba Moose.

Frans Nielsen has 9G, 18A, 27P in 56GP for the New York Islanders.

Peter Regin has 9G, 12A, 21P, in 57GP for the Ottawa Senators.

Morten Madsen has 8G, 8A, 16P in 38GP for MODO of the Swedish Elitserien (Minnesota). He will also play in Sweden in 2010-2011 season so to get his career back on track.

Kirill Starkov has 2G, 1A, 3P in 48GP for Timrå (Can i just call this guy a bust? I think so. 9P in total over the past two seasons.)

Lars Eller has 1G, 0A, 1P in 5GP for St. Louis Blues.

Lars Eller has 9G, 27A, 36P in 35GP for Peroia Rivermen of the AHL.

Philip Larsen has 1G, 8A, 9P in 35GP for Frölunda's SEL squad (Dallas).

I could add more players if anybody has someone specific.

Jannik Hansen - Frans Nielsen - Mikkel Boedker

Morten Madsen - Peter Regin - Lars Eller

Mads Christensen - Julian Jakobsen - Kirill Starkov

Nichlas Hardt - Morten Green - Kim Staal





Philip Larsen - Mads Bødker

Jesper Damgaard - Stefan Lassen

Daniel Nielsen - ???


Strongest danish team.

Kirill Starkov has nothing to do on the team, and he wont be there.

danish hockey is looking strong! I follow Regin closely, living in ottawa, and all I can say about him lately is wow. Getting a point almost every game, up to 13 or 14 goals now having played most of the year in a limited role, now is on the top line with Jason Spezza and Daniel Alfredsson. And it's not just cause of them that he is getting points, he is doing at least as good if not better than Milan Michalek when he was slotted beside spezza.

On another note, if you rank players with the cortis formula,that measures shots directed at the net, blocked, on goal, wide, goal, or otherwise vs the same values of shots against. with this more detailed "+/-" ranking, the top three players in the league were Marian Hossa, Peter Regin, then Patrick Sharp.

Sick :D

And Denmark could have its 6th NHL player before the season is over..

http://stars.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474707

And that is absolutely amazing. Hard to imagine that it is only 4 years ago that the first Dane ever signed a NHL contract.

In the final Central Scouting rankings, Jesper Jensen moved up 7 spots to #84 among European skaters, Esbjerg's Jannick Christensen made it at #85 after not being ranked at mid-term. Markus Lauridsen, on the other hand, dropped 24 spots down to #117, while Patrick Bjorkstrand squeeked in at #140.

In the final Central Scouting rankings, Jesper Jensen moved up 7 spots to #84 among European skaters, Esbjerg's Jannick Christensen made it at #85 after not being ranked at mid-term. Markus Lauridsen, on the other hand, dropped 24 spots down to #117, while Patrick Bjorkstrand squeeked in at #140.

I would probably rank them in the same order. Possibly with Bjorkstrand ahead of Lauridsen, but NHL sure likes them big defensemen. I am a bit surprised/impressed that Jesper Jensen moved up in the rankings considering the injury he sustained.

But, with rankings like that, I would be surprised if more than one of the above gets drafted - if that. And it'll probably end up being Lauridsen going to Philly. :)

Any chance Frederik Andersen will be drafted this summer? He had a super game against Finland today!

Just wanted to congratulate the Danish team. They played amazingly yesterday. Somehow they reminded the Finnish team back in-a-day when we played against bigger hockey powers and every win was like winning the gold.

Denmark, I salute you! :handclap:

Another magnificent performance. The rise and rise of Denmark continues with more bright young things in the pipeline to come as well.

Congratulations to Denmark. :handclap:

This doesn't quite fit in here but I didn't want to start a new topic for it...
So, here's the situation: I'll be on vacation near Esbjerg from 08/21 to 09/04 and would like to see some hockey there if that's possible. I think I managed to navigate through their site (I dont't speak a single word Danish) but obviously there are no preseason games scheduled yet. Does anybody here know anything about preseason games there and when you can expect them to be scheduled?
This would help me a lot...

This doesn't quite fit in here but I didn't want to start a new topic for it...
So, here's the situation: I'll be on vacation near Esbjerg from 08/21 to 09/04 and would like to see some hockey there if that's possible. I think I managed to navigate through their site (I dont't speak a single word Danish) but obviously there are no preseason games scheduled yet. Does anybody here know anything about preseason games there and when you can expect them to be scheduled?
This would help me a lot...

Here you are:
In that timeframe 2 preseason games will take place in Esbjerg:
31st of August: Esbjerg - Odense
4th of September: Esbjerg - AaB

Probably the game against AaB will be the most interesting to watch (if you can). Odense will have a very young team this year.

I want to see the homeland put a hockey team into the olympics soon

I want to see the homeland put a hockey team into the olympics soon

Well...you just put a team into the main group of the WJC-U20!

From looking at the stats/roster I see that a bunch of the top scorers for Denmark were underagers meaning they will be eligible for the main event next year, and 2 defenceman, and the starting goalie. If everything goes right they might avoid relegation this time!

http://www.iihf.com/channels1011/wm20-ib/statistics.html
Returning players:
F: Jensen, Russell, Meyer, Spelling, Bjorkstrand, Schultz
D: Christensen, Rahbek
G: Feuk

Well...you just put a team into the main group of the WJC-U20!

From looking at the stats/roster I see that a bunch of the top scorers for Denmark were underagers meaning they will be eligible for the main event next year, and 2 defenceman, and the starting goalie. If everything goes right they might avoid relegation this time!

http://www.iihf.com/channels1011/wm20-ib/statistics.html
Returning players:
F: Jensen, Russell, Meyer, Spelling, Bjorkstrand, Schultz
D: Christensen, Rahbek
G: Feuk

Great to see!!

With the Mens National Team finishing 11th at the World Championship, Denmark will next year be represented at the top level at the U20, U18 and National Team level. Well done....:handclap: