Comrie vs Guerin

IF - big if, but IF these guys are looking for the same $$$, why is there even a wait...?!?! The more I see, the more I think it is close (esp if Guerin is demanded $ mil).

Mike Comrie has paid his dues here, has blended into the team well, IMO, and plays lights out (even with a dislocated shoulder). He may not be perceived to be as "gritty" as Guerin, but it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog, and I think he's proven he's got it.

"but it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog"

That is true to a certain extent, but if both dogs have close to the same fight in them, the little dog is in serious trouble.

That said, I would love for Ottawa to try to sign both Comrie and Guerin. Even if it is at the expense of certain other players.

IF - big if, but IF these guys are looking for the same $$$, why is there even a wait...?!?! The more I see, the more I think it is close (esp if Guerin is demanded $ mil).

Mike Comrie has paid his dues here, has blended into the team well, IMO, and plays lights out (even with a dislocated shoulder). He may not be perceived to be as "gritty" as Guerin, but it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog, and I think he's proven he's got it.

Both players are asking for alot apparently..Concidering Spezza, Heatley, Fisher, and Redden contracts are due next season. Would love to have Comrie back, but not for 3+ mill.

I loved Comrie in his time here. He worked hard, battled hard, and scored some pretty timely goals for the team.

The problem is, he was playing out of position the entire time, and I'd imagine if he was brought back, he'd do the same again. I don't think he's as effective on wing because of his size. There's a lot more board work involved as a winger and he can get outmuscled easily. Also, at center he's allowed to roam more offensively and use his talents. That just doesn't seem like it can happen here.

The way I see it, if we can get Guerin at the same price, go for it, because he's more suited to play the winger position. And let's face it, Murray wants to bring in guys with size.

Comrie is redundant on this team. We have tons of small, quick skilled players. We don’t have a fast skating big guy with scoring ability like Guerin. It’s almost an embarrassment to be discussing who would be more valuable to this team.

Guerin is your man.............It would be awesome if you found a way for both

IF - big if, but IF these guys are looking for the same $$$, why is there even a wait...?!?! The more I see, the more I think it is close (esp if Guerin is demanded $ mil).

Mike Comrie has paid his dues here, has blended into the team well, IMO, and plays lights out (even with a dislocated shoulder). He may not be perceived to be as "gritty" as Guerin, but it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog, and I think he's proven he's got it.

I don't think we sign either at this point. But Comrie was awesome here. He fit in big time despite having to play on the wing. Despite all the former bad press he got as a "problem player" here he was anything but that. He had every positve intangible I can think of.

Right now if somehow Comrie would sign a 1 year deal at 2.5-3 I wish we would resign him. I think he has shown that he will do anything the coaches ask and can play multiple roles here depending on what is needed.

Guerin has some pedigree but he is like 10 years older. He has still never had a great playoff and we don't know if he will fit in.

I don't think we sign any UFAs now. But if we do I think Comrie has shown and he and his agent have said he would try to make Ottawa a destination of choice even if he might leave some years and $$$ on the table.

As much as we would like to get bigger, we are already big compared to most every team but Anaheim. Comrie is small but doesn't play small. He isn't Bertuzzi but he will pay the price, lay hits and even fight for his teammates.

Comrie is redundant on this team. We have tons of small, quick skilled players. We don’t have a fast skating big guy with scoring ability like Guerin. It’s almost an embarrassment to be discussing who would be more valuable to this team.

Comrie is far from a redundant player. While it would be nice to have a winger with speed and size that hardly makes a player like Comrie "redundant".

If contracts were equal, I would much prefer Guerin on this team rather than Comrie. Guerin is big, fast, plays with a bit of a mean streak and can score goals. He's exactly the type of player the Sens have needed on their top 2 lines since the inception of the franchise IMO.

I'd choose Guerin. We already have five centres (six if you count Hennessey), we don't need another.

Guerin has some pedigree but he is like 10 years older. He has still never had a great playoff and we don't know if he will fit in.


I dunno, man, I've got a really good vibe about Guerin. Maybe it's just that I've talked myself into it so well this week :)

I think this year's playoff performance was really an aberration. He played well with Dallas last year, and if you look at his history, he's never played on a really good team - he spent a lot of time as a complimentary player on the Devils (aren't they all... ;) ) and on bad/underacheiving Oilers/Bruins teams. I think he's capable of really breaking out as a playoff performer in the right environment.

As far as fitting in, I was always under the impression he was a guy who'd be a good teammate. I recall him being in a few scraps, and sticking up for your teammates wins you a lot of respect - look at Kelly and Eaves last year and this year, respectively.

I'd choose Guerin. We already have five centres (six if you count Hennessey), we don't need another.

mcammond is a LW/C.

our centres are

Spezza
Fisher
Vermette
Kelly
(mcammond)
Hennesey
Zubov

?

It is looking like Comrie is coming to the Island?

Haven't seen much of him. I know he is undersized...but is he a decent replacement for blake?

I think this year's playoff performance was really an aberration. He played well with Dallas last year, and if you look at his history, he's never played on a really good team - he spent a lot of time as a complimentary player on the Devils (aren't they all... ;) ) and on bad/underacheiving Oilers/Bruins teams. I think he's capable of really breaking out as a playoff performer in the right environment.


It was absolutely NOT an aberration.

He hasn't been a good playoff player his whole career. In 105 career playoff games, he only has 28 goals, 22 assists, for 50 points.

That translates to 0.26 goals-per-game, 0.21 assists-per-game, and 0.47 points-per-game.

This is substantially lower than the 0.35 goals-per game (364 goals in 1026 career games), 0.35 assists-per-game (355 assists in 1026 career games), and 0.70 points-per-game (719 points in 1026 career games) that he has out up during the regular season in his career.

On average, he goes from a 29 G - 29 A - 58 PTS player in the regular season to a 21 G - 17 A - 38 PTS player in the playoffs.

It is looking like Comrie is coming to the Island?

Haven't seen much of him. I know he is undersized...but is he a decent replacement for blake?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeTwep5dmqs

It was absolutely NOT an aberration.

He hasn't been a good playoff player his whole career. In 105 career playoff games, he only has 28 goals, 22 assists, for 50 points.

That translates to 0.26 goals-per-game, 0.21 assists-per-game, and 0.47 points-per-game.

This is substantially lower than the 0.35 goals-per game (364 goals in 1026 career games), 0.35 assists-per-game (355 assists in 1026 career games), and 0.70 points-per-game (719 points in 1026 career games) that he has out up during the regular season in his career.

On average, he goes from a 29 G - 29 A - 58 PTS player in the regular season to a 21 G - 17 A - 38 PTS player in the playoffs.
I looked at the same stats.

My point was - he's played on a lot of crappy teams (Edmonton), underachieving teams (Boston) or teams where he didn't have a big role (Jersey). It's not exactly a recipe for playoff success for any player. You could have said the same thing about Ron Francis before he went to Pittsburgh, or Dave Andreychuk before Tampa.

I don't have anything to suggest that he'd be any better here. It's just a good vibe I guess.

It is looking like Comrie is coming to the Island?

Haven't seen much of him. I know he is undersized...but is he a decent replacement for blake?

He's not quite the pain-in-the-ass to play against that Blake was, but I think you'll like him. He's a good competitor, and he should be good for about as many points as Blake.

Most would agree that he works best as a center, not a winger. But, considering you guys only have 6 forwards under contract, I'll sure you'll find a place for him in the middle ;)

It was absolutely NOT an aberration.

On average, he goes from a 29 G - 29 A - 58 PTS player in the regular season to a 21 G - 17 A - 38 PTS player in the playoffs.

Scoring in general is down in the playoffs, so it's mostly only the true playoff studs that can maintain PPG paces.

He's not quite the pain-in-the-ass to play against that Blake was, but I think you'll like him. He's a good competitor, and he should be good for about as many points as Blake.

Most would agree that he works best as a center, not a winger. But, considering you guys only have 6 forwards under contract, I'll sure you'll find a place for him in the middle ;)

Thanks. I believe he will be our #1 center (we are in trouble)

I know he has speed, I just heard he was not a great guy for the locker room. we have Nolan to crush that, I just know Comrie seems solid, but has bounced around so much.

I just heard he was not a great guy for the locker room.

I've seen this too, and I can tell you it's a pile of crap, he seemed like a great teammate to me! So no worries there. :)

I can't guarantee that Comrie is an permanently changed guy because it might just have been a issue of him fitting in really, really well with the Senators. However I'd like to think that the Comrie we saw was the Comrie he will now be. If that's the case, he's a guy every team should want.

He's a proven 30-30 guy as a young guy on a crappy Edmonton team of the early 00s, and the terrible 05-06 Yotes (though he got lots of ice time). He's a 25-50 guy getting 2nd-3rd line icetime as a Senator. For the salary he'll be getting, with the added grit and heart we saw in Ottawa, he'll be worth it.

I'd really like to keep him but it seems the decision has been made. Which is too bad because it seems like he wants to be here.

well, guerin is gone, maybe we'll keep comrie after all

I still think that there's a place for Comrie on this team and I would love to see him back. I agree with those who have said he's not effective on the wing, but that if we gave him a shot at centre? I would still say Fisher is most effective in a third line centre role (not that he isn't capable of being on the 2nd) and Comrie would be able to help generate more secondary scoring at centre.

Something like:
Heatley-Spezza-Alfie
Vermette-Comrie-Eaves
Schaefer-Fisher-Neil

You could switch Eaves and Alfredsson too. There is no way Comrie is redundant though - he may be a small skilled buy, but he's one of the toughest and probably the most talented of all of them.

Comrie is GONE:(

The former Senators centre is expected to sign a one-year agreement with the New York Islanders tonight worth $3 million to $3.5 million.

Per Ottawa Sun

Well now we know who our trade deadline acquisition will be.

:sarcasm:

well.. now we get neither...awesome.... :(

Well now we know who our trade deadline acquisition will be.

:sarcasm:

If Comrie is on a one year deal on the Isles he may well be the deadline addition. Awesome

I think he should have been brought back. :(

Good luck Mike, wouldn't mind seeing you back in 7 months time...

I can't guarantee that Comrie is an permanently changed guy because it might just have been a issue of him fitting in really, really well with the Senators. However I'd like to think that the Comrie we saw was the Comrie he will now be. If that's the case, he's a guy every team should want.

He's a proven 30-30 guy as a young guy on a crappy Edmonton team of the early 00s, and the terrible 05-06 Yotes (though he got lots of ice time). He's a 25-50 guy getting 2nd-3rd line icetime as a Senator. For the salary he'll be getting, with the added grit and heart we saw in Ottawa, he'll be worth it.

I'd really like to keep him but it seems the decision has been made. Which is too bad because it seems like he wants to be here.

I saw that grit and competitiveness in Edmonton, little buzzsaw Mike Comrie always had my respect.
But he was never going to be able to play center here because Fisher and Vermette are much stronger all-round players.

Man i never thought about adding Comrie to our team! I wonder what the islanders will take for him at the deadline, im sure he could help some team make the finals :naughty:

Comrie and Guerin going to the Isles....

Craptacular.