why fire moc now?

why fire him ,when we all know he can`t make any major moves without harry sinden ok`ing it.
if oconnell gets the boot now- then certainly sinden should be asked to retire and if he declines he should join oconnell on the unemployment line...im all for a housecleaning in the front office,is about 15 years past due...but what good is it going to be with oconnell fired and sinden still running the show on the down low??????

why not? LOL

JJ will only have a team which payroll he can control. Sinden will only have a GM he can control. MOC will only hire a coach he can control and poor SULLIVAN cant even control his bladder :joker:

JJ will only have a team which payroll he can control. Sinden will only have a GM he can control. MOC will only hire a coach he can control and poor SULLIVAN cant even control his bladder :joker:
More I think about it the more i believe that Sinden is like wormtongue from lord of the rings. He is poisoning the mind of JJ. I'm starting to think JJ knows less abouit hockey than we give him credit for, and Sinden is the one preaching cheapness! He has been on a mission for well over 2 decades now! I say we need to remove Sinden from power! We need frodo and Sam with there laden homosexual realtionship! not that there is anything wrong with that!

"sin" "den"

why fire him ,when we all know he can`t make any major moves without harry sinden ok`ing it...
Sinden says he is no longer responsible for player personnel decisions. That's O'Connell's responsibility.

Sinden says he is no longer responsible for player personnel decisions. That's O'Connell's responsibility. from; misterjaggers
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Good thing- if its true. Last Sinden deal I recall was the Coffey signing. Nuff' said.

Seems the modern game has passed Harry by, as it apparently has with Sather in NYC as well. -Piels

I don't know the inner working of the organization to know if O'Connell has made the decisions that have brought this team, once again, back to the lower tiers of the league. Back to rebuilding mode after a glorious run of... what, one year?

I do know that under Harry's guidance the team made the playoffs for 28 straight years, including teams in the early to mid 80's and ones in the 88-92 range that were serious Cup contenders (thanks again Andy Moog). But things have changed since he made a public show of moving upstairs a week or two after firing Pat Burns.

Since O'Connell seemingly took the reins there have been good moves and there have been bad moves, but overall in my opinion the organization has lacked a long range plan. However, we don't really know if the decisions to bring in LaPointe, Pellerin, Zamuner, and O'Donnell a few summers ago were really O'Connell's. I do not know if it was his idea to trade Anson Carter, whose rights the team owned for 5 more years, for Bill Guerin, who could leave after one full season. I don't know if O'Connell was told to move Allison for whatever he could get at the time before another season went up in smoke, ending up with players who could help in the present but who were going to become expensive and/or had short time left before gaining free agency. Clearly there were better long range deals to be had in retrospect. But I don't know if Jacobs told Harry and Mike to fill the damn seats now, to hell with the future. Regardless, the bottom line is that someone fouled up royally making these short sighted decisions. If it was Jacobs who was the impetus for that fateful summer, then he needs to look in the mirror to assign blame, then get back out of the limelight and let Harry resume making decisions.

However, if what has been reported about O'Connell being in charge is accurate; if O'Connell is the guy who has traded older guys for young ones, and then young ones for older ones... if O'Connell has really been the guy pulling the strings... then how long do you stay with the guy? Leaving him on the job for one single minute once the decision to get rid of him is made would be a colossal blunder, and one I think Sinden would never make.

But I really don't have any insight into the situation and as such... who am I to call for his head?

Sinden says he is no longer responsible for player personnel decisions. That's O'Connell's responsibility.

Hey.....Sinden used to make GREAT deals. Paul Coffey, Reed Larson,
I Like Crack (Stevens), Jim Craig, Rogie Vachon and Blaine Lacher.
Then there's the draft picks......Dave Pasin, Evgeni Ryabchikov(sp?), Stevenson.

I forgive him almost all of that though because he got Cam.

That said, I think the phrase "Sinden says he is no longer responsible"
has the loudest ring of truth. : )

Getting Allison and Carter from Washington was a very good deal at the time. Too bad that is all for naught now. I think Harry might have a hand in the Carter to EDM for Guerin trade as he stepped down about a week before that happened. That was a good trade too. But again all for naught.

Sinden says he is no longer responsible for player personnel decisions. That's O'Connell's responsibility.


lemme guess, u also believe on the easter bunny?

lemme guess, u also believe on the easter bunny?
I thought everybody believed in the Easter Bunny!?! :cry:

Sinden told the Globe that O'Connell makes the player personnel decisions. I haven't read a retraction, nor has MOC disputed it, so...