Which Flame gets traded first?

Which Flame is gone first?

Denis Gauthier

Roman Turek

Craig Conroy

Jamie McLennan

Chuck Kobasew

I say Turek. That is why he is playing as much as he is. To showcase him to the rest of the league. And his high salary makes him expendable. Maybe the Rangers need him?

I've voted McLennan. when Kiprusoff is back he's likely gone via either trade or waivers (not my preference necessarily, just trying to read Sutter)

Turek's contract is prohibitive. He's playing alot because he's our number one, at least until Kiprusoff's return

It's probably 40:60 that Conroy gets dealt before the deadline

I don't see Gauthier, or any dman, moving this year unless the deal knocks Sutter's socks off

Kobasew? can't see it unless a major shake up deal was happening, but seeing as Sutter's stated goal is building for the future.....

I say Turek. That is why he is playing as much as he is. To showcase him to the rest of the league. And his high salary makes him expendable. Maybe the Rangers need him?

His high salary also makes him difficult to move. Biron, Khabibulin & Kolzig might all be available. Turek wouldn't seem to be an appealing alernative to any of them.

I'm praying it's Turek.

Turek has a no-trade clause.

I would hate to see Conroy go. He is really the leader in the locker room imo.

I'm praying it's Turek too.

You should stop praying false hope is unhealthy. If the Flames ate up EVERY SINGLE PENNY of his contract and he was completely free there is still nobody that would take him.

You should stop praying false hope is unhealthy. If the Flames ate up EVERY SINGLE PENNY of his contract and he was completely free there is still nobody that would take him.
I fear your right. Man this team is just different with Turek in net, gotta love the Bronx cheers the fans broke out tonight.

The Calgary pee wee Flames wouldnt even want him . :cry:

At least he didnt pull a Patty Roooaahh and skate up to sutter and tell him he played his last game as a Flame ..we could only hope .

Turek might not be the first traded but he'll be the first out of the organization...

I fear your right. Man this team is just different with Turek in net, gotta love the Bronx cheers the fans broke out tonight.
Actually, I thought the Bronx cheers were pretty low class and don't reflect well on the hockey knowledge of the fans participating.

Turek was hung out to dry against Tampa and could hardly be blamed for the loss.

I fear your right. Man this team is just different with Turek in net, gotta love the Bronx cheers the fans broke out tonight.

I can't believe how classless this made the Flames "fans" look, especially considering it was on HNIC.

Not to mention that half the goals were not his fault. Let's see.... two give aways in our own zone AND a three-on-one....

I can't believe how classless this made the Flames "fans" look, especially considering it was on HNIC.

Not to mention that half the goals were not his fault. Let's see.... two give aways in our own zone AND a three-on-one....

I think you'd have had to be there to experience the fan atmosphere. I was there (as well as Ozy_Flame) and Turek's play in the first period, not just saves but his poor stickhandling skills behind the net, soured the crowd from square one.

Say what you want about the fans, they have every right to boo whoever the hell they want, what with the prices they have to pay for tickets these days. If people don't like fans booing Turek, then maybe Turek shouldn't play like he needs to be booed.

I think you'd have had to be there to experience the fan atmosphere. I was there (as well as Ozy_Flame) and Turek's play in the first period, not just saves but his poor stickhandling skills behind the net, soured the crowd from square one.

Say what you want about the fans, they have every right to boo whoever the hell they want, what with the prices they have to pay for tickets these days. If people don't like fans booing Turek, then maybe Turek shouldn't play like he needs to be booed.

I WAS there, and I'm not saying Turek played great. Hell, I'm not even saying he played GOOD. But did he play on the level that he deserved to be booed, while the defense (who played horrensously) get off scot-free? I don't think so.

Actually, I thought the Bronx cheers were pretty low class and don't reflect well on the hockey knowledge of the fans participating.

Turek was hung out to dry against Tampa and could hardly be blamed for the loss.
I agree, definetaly seemed low class, just pointing them out. I wasn't there and don't know exactly the atmosphere, but yeah the D didn't seem to help much.

I fear your right. Man this team is just different with Turek in net, gotta love the Bronx cheers the fans broke out tonight.

I thought the jeering was pathetic. I was embarrased to be in the same building as those drunken idiots.

"It doesn't say much for the intelligence of the fans that boo the goalie of their own team, when they should know he thrives on warm fuzzies and plays better when has a lot of confidence." - Quote Wildfan.

I quoted another fan since I couldn't have put it any better.

I thought the jeering was pathetic. I was embarrased to be in the same building as those drunken idiots.

"It doesn't say much for the intelligence of the fans that boo the goalie of their own team, when they should know he thrives on warm fuzzies and plays better when has a lot of confidence." - Quote Wildfan.

I quoted another fan since I couldn't have put it any better.

Before Saturday, Turek came off a 4-0 shoutout of Nashville. That shutout alone should be reason enough for Turek to be playing with a mean streak.

While I agree that fan reaction can pressure a goalie negatively or positively, Turek is making $4.5 million on a small market team. He needs to rise above any negativity (including being heckled by fans), phase it out, and play to the level he knows he's capable of playing at.

Or maybe fans wouldn't give him such a hard time if he deffered some of his salary to make his mistakes look not as costly. Can then use that money to go get a high profile defenseman to help him 'stop pucks' more efficiently, i don't know....

Anyways,I still believe that fans have every right to cheer, heckle, mock, or boo any time they want. They are the ones keeping this team on life support right now financially, and Flames fans have been tremendous over the last 8 non-playoff hockey years in terms of loyalty and team support.

Turek shouldn't be complaining about it either - he should bite his lip and acknowledge that he needs to be a better competitor next game, and show the fans that he's worthy of his money. Simple as that.

The question that I would really like answered by those who like to jeer and mock our goalie is what do you think you're accomplishing? Does it make you feel better about yourself to mock and jeer a professional athlete? What does that say about you? Do you actually think it helps Turek or the team? If not then why do it?

Sure you have the right to cheer or boo. Just as I have the right to criticize that behaviour and try and comprehend why on earth people would choose to do such a thing. Personally I can't think of a logical reason to boo him outside of intentionally trying to run him out of town and make him miserable here by insulting, mocking and jeering him so he will waive his no-trade clause. I wouldn't have any respect for that reasoning. As I said, I think it has a lot more to do with drunken idiots on a Saturday night acting like drunken idiots will act. I think that probably explains most of the boos.

So what's your rationale people? Too drunk to do anything else or notice how horrible the defensive coverage was? Intentionally trying to run a guy out of town? Or are you just the type of "super" fan that boos players on his own team. I thought the point of being a fan was to cheer for our guys but what do I know...

The question that I would really like answered by those who like to jeer and mock our goalie is what do you think you're accomplishing? Does it make you feel better about yourself to mock and jeer a professional athlete? What does that say about you? Do you actually think it helps Turek or the team? If not then why do it?

Sure you have the right to cheer or boo. Just as I have the right to criticize that behaviour and try and comprehend why on earth people would choose to do such a thing. Personally I can't think of a logical reason to boo him outside of intentionally trying to run him out of town and make him miserable here by insulting, mocking and jeering him so he will waive his no-trade clause. I wouldn't have any respect for that reasoning. As I said, I think it has a lot more to do with drunken idiots on a Saturday night acting like drunken idiots will act. I think that probably explains most of the boos.

So what's your rationale people? Too drunk to do anything else or notice how horrible the defensive coverage was? Intentionally trying to run a guy out of town? Or are you just the type of "super" fan that boos players on his own team. I thought the point of being a fan was to cheer for our guys but what do I know...
I completely agree, I mean if anyone thrives on good vibes it is Turek, I don't condone the cheering in anyway, just pointing it out.

I really do hope he picks up his game (not that he's really been bad this year, he hasn't had much time to prove anything) but the team just plays so differently with him in net, its hard to place, but its different. :dunno: I just think they are better served with Kiprusoff or J-Mac in net, though they may not be as good in terms of straightup talent.

but the team just plays so differently with him in net, its hard to place, but its different

I think it's purely coincedence. We were rough to start the season (which is when he was healthy) which could be attributed to many things including Warrener not really being comfortable and looking a tad out of place. As for lately, the team has looked much worse defensively before Turek came back. Pretty much all of January they haven't been nearly as tight defensively as the previous two months.

This has been debated hotly on other boards so once again I'll pull some posts which I think address this.

"Actually the team was sliding pretty good before Turek came back, something Turek bashers seem to ignore. Since back to back wins in New York the team is 3-5-1 and the goalies have basically spilt those games.

Turek 2-3-0 2.60 .913 (avg 30.1 shots)
McLennan 1-2-1 2.75 .882 (avg 23.5 shots)

One guy gets boo'd ... the other cuddled. Yet Turek has much better numbers in this time period." - Bingo from CP

Of course McLennan is injured so one should take that into consideration. But the defense of the Flames has been slipping for weeks, not just since Turek has been healthy. Turek has yet to consistently play behind the solid team we saw in November and December. When he has (Nashville) he made it look easy. When his teammates decided that defense wasn't in their vocabulary (TB) then he looks terrible.

Anybody trying to pin it all on Turek is just looking for a convenient scapegoat. His salary makes him a bigger target. But the success of the Flames will depend far more on their adherence to a tight defensive game then who's in net. If the Flames defense can get McLennan wins, then Turek (who is a better goaltender no doubt) will be fine. People complain about Turek giving up a soft goal per game and yet I've seen that more consistently from McLennan. McLennan is not a better option than Turek. I think people like to cheer for the underdog (McLennan) and naturally will try to be picky with expensive players (Turek) but I'm dumbfounded when I turn on the radio and hear some people who actually believe that McLennan is the better goaltender. :dunno:

If people want Turek out of town then they should want him to do well because nobody will deal for a struggling Turek. Either way both sets of fans (Turek bashers/haters and those who don't choose to scapegoat him) should be hoping he does better and should cheer him on to try and accomplish that.

It's pretty clear his confidence can be shaky at times and it hurts the team to do anything that might shake his confidence (like booing or jeering him.) I think the fans who jeer him should think twice about whether making themselves feel better at the game by attacking him is really worth it. If you want him out of town or to play better then you shouldn't be mocking him IMO.

It's pretty clear his confidence can be shaky at times and it hurts the team to do anything that might shake his confidence (like booing or jeering him.) I think the fans who jeer him should think twice about whether making themselves feel better at the game by attacking him is really worth it. If you want him out of town or to play better then you shouldn't be mocking him IMO.

Yup, Flames fan should be glad that the great Turek is tending goal for them. Jeering/booing is strictly prohibited. Only cheering is allowed. Otherwise it's your fault that he chokes. :teach:

Turek 2-3-0 2.60 .913 (avg 30.1 shots)
McLennan 1-2-1 2.75 .882 (avg 23.5 shots)
If you want him out of town or to play better then you shouldn't be mocking him IMO.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more Watcher. I was at the game and booing one of your own players is like letting the air out of the tires. Kiprusoff would fare no better the way the D has played latley. The Flames has the fewest goals against after only the Devils during that stretch and now have slipped to 5th or something? As if those blowhards wouldn't love Roman if he finally beat the crap out of someone in a big game at home and shut them down. The Flames need to start outshooting the opposition; as they did for Kiprusoff, and play better D.

Turek 2-3-0 2.60 .913 (avg 30.1 shots)
McLennan 1-2-1 2.75 .882 (avg 23.5 shots)
If you want him out of town or to play better then you shouldn't be mocking him IMO.

Couldn't agree more Watcher. I was at the game and booing one of your own players is like letting the air out of the tires. Kiprusoff would fare no better the way the D has played latley. The Flames has the fewest goals against after only the Devils during that stretch and now have slipped to 5th or something? As if those blowhards wouldn't love Roman if he finally beat the crap out of someone in a big game at home and shut them down. The Flames need to start outshooting the opposition; as they did for Kiprusoff, and play better D.

I agree completely, the D has slid before the return of Turek, the only real problem I have is that this team seems to give up so far more shots with Turek in net, I just don't understand why.

Maybe all the fans who are against the fans who boo should wait outside the saddledome before the game and give Roman a big group hug and whisper sweet nothings in his ear ..i bet that turns him around .

:lol:

WELL i guess the group hug thing didnt work ..bye bye playoffs . :mad: