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Hockeyfan02 01-09-2008, 11:16 PM Saturday
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Seattle @ Green Bay, 4:30PM, Fox: A rematch of sorts from the infamous wild card game where Hasselbeck in the OT coin toss declared "We want the ball and we're gonna score." He was right that someone scored on that drive...Packers CB Al Harris when he took Hasselbeck's pass for a TD. Now the Seahawks come in after a crazy 4th quarter against Washington in which their defense scored two TD's. Packers had the bye and will be led by Brett Favre who has had a resurgent season. These are two teams that rely heavily on the pass and have the worst run games of all the teams that made the playoffs. A good running game is usually needed in the playoffs so it'll be interesting to see how this game plays out in Lambeau where the conditions may not be ideal for passing.
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Jacksonville @ New England, 8:15, CBS: Just about everyone's sleeper team for the playoffs takes on the NFL's best team. The Jags had a hard fought game against Pittsburgh where they blew an 18 point lead but David Garrard's run on 4th and 2 put them in FG range for a 31-29 win. New England is coming off a record setting season and are the overwhelming favorites to win the super bowl. The Jags are going to need a near perfect game to knock off the Pats and even that might not be enough.
Sunday:
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Chargers @ Colts, 1:00 PM, CBS: The Chargers looked awful in the first half last week against the Titans, but found their stride in the 2nd half to get their first playoff win since 1994. However, they suffered a serious loss when Antonio Gates went down with a dislocated toe and he could miss the rest of the playoffs. The Colts are once again a contender to go to the Super Bowl, but have battled injuries all year. Marvin Harrison may play in this game, but how effective will he be? A matchup to watch will be the NFL's best running back Ladanian Tomlinson against the NFL defensive player of the year safety Bob Sanders.
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Giants @ Cowboys, 4:30, Fox: The Giants and Cowboys will renew their rivalry for the 3rd time this season. The Cowboys won both match ups this year on their way to the #1 seed in the NFC. Last week, the Giants started off terrible in the 1st quarter against the Bucs, but took over the game after that. Eli Manning looked very good and the Giants defense dominated the Bucs. The big question in this game is the health of Cowboys wideout Terrell Owens. If he can not play it is a huge blow to the Cowboys offense. The Giants are 8-0 on the road since their season opening loss to the Cowboys in the first week of the season.
FlyersGuy69 01-10-2008, 06:24 AM can't wait. it's going to be a great weekend of football.
my picks:
Seattle @ Green Bay
Jacksonville @ New England (well, I am hoping)
Chargers @ Colts
Giants @ Cowboys
Tuggy 01-10-2008, 06:48 AM Should be some really good football this weekend.
Another week and another team that's gonna beat the Pats :sarcasm: Personally, I see the Pats covering the spread and winning by about 14.
The game that I'm most stuck on picking is the Giants@Cowboys. My initial thought was to take the Cowboys but I'm not so sure anymore. I am positive that T.O. will play but I know he isn't anywhere close to 100%. I really, really want to pick the Giants in this game and I like their team, but I don't know. Is this Eli's time to shine?
I think the Seahawks could go into GB and win.
FlyersGuy69 01-10-2008, 09:18 AM Another week and another team that's gonna beat the Pats :sarcasm: Personally, I see the Pats covering the spread and winning by about 14.yeah, us haters gotta keep the faith. seriously, I know it's a long shot but it's all in fun.
I think the Seahawks could go into GB and win.
I was on the fence with this game. I wanted to take the Hawks but I gave the edge to the Packers because they are at home. if the Seahawks can get heat on Fav-ra, they got a real good chance.
Tuggy 01-10-2008, 09:24 AM yeah, us haters gotta keep the faith. seriously, I know it's a long shot but it's all in fun.
;)
I was on the fence with this game. I wanted to take the Hawks but I gave the edge to the Packers because they are at home. if the Seahawks can get heat on Fav-ra, they got a real good chance.
Seattle's defense is rolling right now and if they can hit Favre early then he'll start with his crazy plays which usually end up in picks. I think that Hasselbeck and Holmgren want to prove ALOT in this game, so they are going to be extremely motivated. Tough game to call.
Ar-too 01-10-2008, 09:41 AM I'm trying to keep myself from wishing physical harm on the Pats. It's not working.
I hope Jacksonville wins.
I think the Chargers will knock off Indy. LT's due for a big game, and their roided up defense will hold Manning in check enough to seal the upset.
Packers and Cowboys probably both win, and the Pats should roll Jacksonville.
ItsAllPartOfThePlan 01-10-2008, 11:18 AM As a Pats fan...I am really, really, really worried about the Jags running game. Taylor and Drew are scaring the **** outta me.
ComrieFanatic 01-10-2008, 01:03 PM As a Pats fan...I am really, really, really worried about the Jags running game. Taylor and Drew are scaring the **** outta me.
They didn't have great games last week outside of Jones's big kick return. While they are a great duo, I think if the Pats get up early, JAX will turn to throwing more, which will kill them.
ComrieFanatic 01-10-2008, 01:05 PM ;)
Seattle's defense is rolling right now and if they can hit Favre early then he'll start with his crazy plays which usually end up in picks. I think that Hasselbeck and Holmgren want to prove ALOT in this game, so they are going to be extremely motivated. Tough game to call.
I think this game comes down to SEA D. They have a weak run game and will be passing a ton. I like GB's pass coverage a lot with Harris and Woodson. I only see the Hawks winning this game if they keep it low scoring.
What the Faulk 01-10-2008, 01:17 PM I don't like the Chargers without Gates. He adds a whole new dimension to the offense and I really don't trust Rivers at all without his safety blanket. Chambers can't be relied upon to be the go to guy.
I like the chances of Dallas going down, especially with a hurt Owens. Even if he plays, he won't be himself. Manning just needs to not **** up and they should have this one by 10 points.
Green Bay wins easy. Hasselbeck is better than some credit him on this board, but Green Bay is just the team to beat in the NFC this year.
I would have called for Jacksonville to upset the Patriots before what they showed me against the Steelers. I think they still have a shot, but I'm not nearly as confident as I was. You need to put pressure on Brady, simple as that. When Brady was putting up those huge numbers he had all the time in the world to throw. If a receiver gets open after 10 seconds of coverage, that isn't the DB's fault. When Philly and the Ravens collapsed they went into prevent mode. That won't work against this team.
PACaptain 01-10-2008, 04:32 PM I'm excited even though my Steelers are out.
Quick Picks:
I've been trying to find a reason to pick the Jacksonville Jaguars and I will be pulling for them but I think New England has the advantage there.
New England over Jacksonville 37-20
The Colts pose the biggest threat to the Patriots and when Antonio Gates when down, I lost faith in the Chargers.
Indianapolis over San Diego 27-13
I think Dallas is ripe for the upset. Tony Romo and other teammates taking vacations with Jessica Simpson. The Cowboys also stumbled into the playoffs. Plus Eli Manning has looked good the last two weeks. The Giants are playing with confidence. I think they pull off the upset here.
New York Giants over Dallas 24-17
Brett Favre in the Super Bowl would be a great story but its always a great contest when Mike Holmgren and Matt Hasselbeck come back to Green Bay. When the Seahawks lost badly to the Steelers, I thought they were a total fraud. They tried to give away the game against the Redskins but redeemed themselves late. I don't think their offense has what it takes to get the better of the Packers defense.
Green Bay over Seattle 26-13
Bob Clarke Fan Club 01-10-2008, 10:25 PM Pats, Colts, Cowboys Packers for wins. That's playing it safe yet all four could go the other way.
In The Flesh 01-10-2008, 10:41 PM I'm in Packers fever right now, GO PACK GO!!!!!!!!!!!
NewtJorden 01-10-2008, 11:02 PM Giants, Packers, Patriots and Chargers will win
Although i kinda wish a Dallas win over the Giants. Would be satisfying as a Packers fan to beat the Cowboys in Dallas for once in the NFC Championship Game
hckyguy14 01-11-2008, 08:44 AM Has it been a long time since the 1 and 2 seeds met on Championship weekend for both Confrences?
That is what I believe may happen.
Patriots over Jaguars
Colts over Chargers
Cowboys over Giants (only game I feel I could be wrong on)
Packers over Seahawks
Jimmi Jenkins 01-11-2008, 09:32 AM Romo will get sacked so hard his mom will feel it.
Detox 01-11-2008, 12:49 PM Romo will get sacked so hard his mom will feel it.
In 2 games: Romo sacked twice, Manning six times. With Gurode back and the Oline healthy, I dont see those numbers changing much.
DeMarcus Ware and Greg Ellis say hello.
I can see all the home teams running the table (wanting a Jags win but the brain is saying otherwise).
gobolt7 01-11-2008, 12:55 PM In 2 games: Romo sacked twice, Manning six times. With Gurode back and the Oline healthy, I dont see those numbers changing much.
DeMarcus Ware and Greg Ellis say hello.
In fairness though, one of those two games was when the Giants had not started playing defense. (The first game of the year) I think you will see a completly different effort on the defensive side of the ball then you did the last time the Giants went into Texas stadium.
jaydub* 01-11-2008, 01:05 PM i think the giants have the best chance of upsetting the favorite, followed by seattle, jacksonville, and the chargers in that order.
Detox 01-11-2008, 01:14 PM In fairness though, one of those two games was when the Giants had not started playing defense. (The first game of the year) I think you will see a completly different effort on the defensive side of the ball then you did the last time the Giants went into Texas stadium.
The Cowboys only had one sack in the first meeting, 5 in the next one. I fully expect both teams to rise to the occassion, yet I cant help but to feel pumped with Owens cleared to play and Glenn performing well in the practise and looks to be finally in game time shape. The Giants are on a high with their recent streak which is the reason why everyone expects an upset yet with the Cowboys offense looking to be finally healthy I cant help but feel confident in a Cowboys win via shootout, Id bet the over in this one.
ComrieFanatic 01-11-2008, 01:23 PM The Cowboys only had one sack in the first meeting, 5 in the next one. I fully expect both teams to rise to the occassion, yet I cant help but to feel pumped with Owens cleared to play and Glenn performing well in the practise and looks to be finally in game time shape. The Giants are on a high with their recent streak which is the reason why everyone expects an upset yet with the Cowboys offense looking to be finally healthy I cant help but feel confident in a Cowboys win via shootout, Id bet the over in this one.
Can Dallas stop Jacobs? I think he could be the X factor. If he gets going, he is a pure machine, plus it opens up the passing game for Manning.
Chaos 01-11-2008, 01:52 PM In fairness though, one of those two games was when the Giants had not started playing defense. (The first game of the year) I think you will see a completly different effort on the defensive side of the ball then you did the last time the Giants went into Texas stadium.
And we heard the exact same arguments back when these 2 played in NY...and the 'vaunted' Giants defense got destroyed yet again. The same thing will happen again. The one guy that kills the Cowboys, Jeremy Shockey, isn't playing. Jacobs is a nice player, but he's not going to win the game by himself, and you can't rely on Dumbface to win a game for you.
Cyclops II* 01-11-2008, 01:58 PM And we heard the exact same arguments back when these 2 played in NY...and the 'vaunted' Giants defense got destroyed yet again. The same thing will happen again. The one guy that kills the Cowboys, Jeremy Shockey, isn't playing. Jacobs is a nice player, but he's not going to win the game by himself, and you can't rely on Dumbface to win a game for you.
Eli is the question mark. It took Payton years to get where he is today. Eli may have turned the corner last week. Or he could run to his mommy the minute the pocket breaks down.
Zeus54 01-11-2008, 02:10 PM I think the Chargers will knock off Indy. LT's due for a big game, and their roided up defense will hold Manning in check enough to seal the upset.
I hate Indy more than anybody else, but SD is going to get crushed. C'mon, they barely beat Tennessee, a team they were supposed to romp on. And it's going to take more than a big day from LT for the Chargers to win. San Diego's defense is decent, but I don't think they'll be able to keep up with Indy's fast paced offense. Colts 42, Chargers 24.
the rest of my predictions...
New England 31, Jacksonville 23. I am a huge Patriots fan, but I think this one will be close. The Jags are a great team, but they nearly lost last week because they got complacent after they went up big on Pittsburgh. They won't get complacent here because obviously they won't be taking any big leads on New England.
Green Bay 35, Seattle 13. Green Bay will do everyone (except Seattle fans) a favor here and kick a fraud out of the postseason.
Giants @ Dallas. This is seriously too hard to pick. Giants need to have a good day running the ball and need Hell to stay frozen over so Eli can have another solid playoff game. For Dallas to win, they can't have a performance like they've been having over the past few weeks and their defense needs to stop the Giants running game and put pressure on Eli.
kingsholygrail 01-11-2008, 08:28 PM Chargers are quickly going to be one-dimensional without Gates.
gobolt7 01-11-2008, 08:55 PM And we heard the exact same arguments back when these 2 played in NY...and the 'vaunted' Giants defense got destroyed yet again. The same thing will happen again. The one guy that kills the Cowboys, Jeremy Shockey, isn't playing. Jacobs is a nice player, but he's not going to win the game by himself, and you can't rely on Dumbface to win a game for you.
The Giants were coming off the England trip and bye week, they appeared to spend most of the game trying to wake up. You cant underestimate the affects of such a long road trip. Both weeks you played us were not true representations of how well this team is playing right now. If you think you are getting the same team, I think you are in for a big surprise. The Giants are coming in on a roll, while Dallas stumbled into the postseason. You cant tell me they looked on top of their game the last few weeks of the year.
I am not saying we are going to win the game by any means, but I do think it will be closer then the previous two games these teams have played.
The X-Factor is actually Jessica Simpson.
Romo is 0-2, 26 of 64 for 356 yards, with 6 sacks, 1 TD and 5 INTs when a girlfriend is watching.
ComrieFanatic 01-11-2008, 10:58 PM Jerry Jones will be one unhappy man if the Cowboys lose because of Jessica Simpson and some stupid trip to Mexico during a bye week.
This type of thing may have happened before but wasn't publicized but doesn't anyone else find the trip to Mexico kind of weird? I don't think it was the time for a meet and greet with Simpson's parents for Romo and the other players who went along. They should have been preparing for the game and watching film. There will be plenty of time to travel in 3 weeks time.
danno2530 01-11-2008, 11:56 PM Jerry Jones will be one unhappy man if the Cowboys lose because of Jessica Simpson and some stupid trip to Mexico during a bye week.
This type of thing may have happened before but wasn't publicized but doesn't anyone else find the trip to Mexico kind of weird? I don't think it was the time for a meet and greet with Simpson's parents for Romo and the other players who went along. They should have been preparing for the game and watching film. There will be plenty of time to travel in 3 weeks time.
The timing was definitely strange. As it has been mentioned, you can guarantee that the other 3 QB's on the bye week (Brady, Peyton, Favre) were either watching game film or practicing.
That doesn't mean that Romo is going to come out and throw 5 interceptions..he's still a damn good quarterback and T.O. at 50% is better than almost any other receiver at 100%. This game won't be easy for any means.
With that said, I have a good feeling about the Giants. They are playing with house money at this point - few people even thought they'd beat the Bucs. I don't know if they can win the game (the secondary still scares me), but the team has been on a different level since about the 2nd quarter of the Bills game.
Plus they are a great road team, weather won't be a factor and the 2 Dallas wins came earlier in the year when the team wasn't quite meshed yet. Week 1 saw alot of injuries and Strahan had just recently returned and as it was mentioned, the game in November was right after the London game. This game is going to have the Giants at their best and Dallas at their best and it should be a fun game.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 01:19 AM I would imagine only home teams will win this weekend.
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 01:27 AM They should have been preparing for the game and watching film.
Well two of the possible opponents for the Cowboys they've played twice this season so I'm guessing they already know the Redskins and Giants pretty well already. The Giants he's thrown 8 tds, 2 int's in two games this year against them. When they actually played Washington with effort and weren't coasting to the playoffs in the last week, he put up good numbers against them. I doubt those two teams are going to completely change their defenses in since the last time they played. The only team they didn't know was the Bucs and I'm sure the coaches had film ready on them just in case. I don't think going to Mexico was a smart thing to do with all the media attention it's getting (which is completely overblown), but I don't see how they're going to prepare and watch film when they don't know who they're facing. I imagine these bye weeks are used to get guys healthy and ready to go for the divisional game. I think it'd be counterproductive to watch film on three teams for a week. One of the ESPN analysts said a bye week during the playoffs, the coaches tell them to relax and they'll see them in a week. If they lose this week it won't be because they aren't prepared for the Giants. Personally I'd like to punch the person who started the whole "The Cowboys lost because Jessica Simpson was there and Romo was daydreaming about her the whole time" storyline. I don't think it had anything to do with that game.
ComrieFanatic 01-12-2008, 10:54 AM Well two of the possible opponents for the Cowboys they've played twice this season so I'm guessing they already know the Redskins and Giants pretty well already. The Giants he's thrown 8 tds, 2 int's in two games this year against them. When they actually played Washington with effort and weren't coasting to the playoffs in the last week, he put up good numbers against them. I doubt those two teams are going to completely change their defenses in since the last time they played. The only team they didn't know was the Bucs and I'm sure the coaches had film ready on them just in case. I don't think going to Mexico was a smart thing to do with all the media attention it's getting (which is completely overblown), but I don't see how they're going to prepare and watch film when they don't know who they're facing. I imagine these bye weeks are used to get guys healthy and ready to go for the divisional game. I think it'd be counterproductive to watch film on three teams for a week. One of the ESPN analysts said a bye week during the playoffs, the coaches tell them to relax and they'll see them in a week. If they lose this week it won't be because they aren't prepared for the Giants. Personally I'd like to punch the person who started the whole "The Cowboys lost because Jessica Simpson was there and Romo was daydreaming about her the whole time" storyline. I don't think it had anything to do with that game.
I think it was TO who blew up the Simpson thing:sarcasm: But ya, it was really overblown.
Bradshaw said this week that it was dumb for him to go purely because of mental issues. I like Romo, I think he is living the dream and doing what he wants. With his personality, I think he will be fine, but if they lose, the media will eat him alive.
danroy 01-12-2008, 11:35 AM People are really overreacting about the whole thing
Bobo420 01-12-2008, 12:17 PM Seattle at Green Bay: I vote Green Bay here, Seahawks are gonna throw the ball all game thus the Packers defense should have a good day irritating Hasselback.
Jacksonville at New England: I vote New England, as much as I'd like the Jaguars to win, it just ain't gonna happen unless they put pressure on Brady all game and create turnovers.
San Diego at Indianapolis: Indy to win, Manning has shown all year he doesn't need Harrison to win games, and with Gates out for SD, it'll be interesting to see how Rivers is gonna do without his best target.
NY Giants at Dallas: A lot of people will pick the Giants but I just don't see Manning putting up points against this Cowboys defense, I have a feeling this could be a low scoring game, Cowboys to win.
NY Giants at Dallas: A lot of people will pick the Giants but I just don't see Manning putting up points against this Cowboys defense, I have a feeling this could be a low scoring game, Cowboys to win.
You realize in the 2 meetings so far, Manning is 51-75, 548 yards, 5 TDs, 3 INTs. He isn't having trouble scoring on Dallas.
The Giants secondary is playing like ####.
danroy 01-12-2008, 02:23 PM why can't the game already start? so bored sitting here waiting.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 02:55 PM LET'S GO JAGUARS!!!!
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It will be the toughest game in history for the Jaguars to win. Even if they don't win, they still have a young team that will only build off of this playoff experience and come right back next season.
Tonight is going to be hell. I'm just praying that the Jags can pull out a win.
danroy 01-12-2008, 03:27 PM Lets go baby! Finally some football. Woodson doesn't miss (inside joke w/ my friends)
danroy 01-12-2008, 03:38 PM Grant should have just not caught that ball. burn.
alexander runs it in. 7-0 Seattle.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 03:42 PM worst possible start for the Pack, get down early, very early
the seattle player hurt killed all the momentum, everybody was standing around, horrific start.
Favre playing from behind spells uh oh and no running game, just great.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 03:43 PM and Grant fumbels again, wow
danroy 01-12-2008, 03:44 PM another grant fumble
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 03:45 PM Grant having a bad game...and it's barely a minute old. Yikes.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 03:47 PM The only way Green Bay could lose is if they choke and so far they have.
lux_interior 01-12-2008, 03:48 PM Grant costing his team the game so far.
danroy 01-12-2008, 03:50 PM wow, what a catch
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 03:51 PM wow, im really speechless, 14-0 already, damn
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 03:52 PM This is certainly unexpected.
FlyersGuy69 01-12-2008, 03:53 PM man, Seattle couldn't have asked for a better start. if Hasselbeck can stay away from throwing INT's they should win this game.
the Packers D needed to step up there and try and keep points off the board or at least hold the Hawks to a FG.
was surprised the Packers were running the ball so well before the 2nd fumble.
"We want the ball and we're gonna fumble the ball twice and go down 14-0 in the first 4 minutes."
danroy 01-12-2008, 03:59 PM Yeah Jennings, straight outta the 269
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 04:00 PM back in the game but still down, lets see what the D can do
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 04:01 PM This Seattle D is performing on the top of their game so far in the playoffs. They should be a force to reckon with if they win this game.
Tuggy 01-12-2008, 04:07 PM Wild game so far.
danroy 01-12-2008, 04:20 PM Green Bay is really coming back now.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:21 PM 1st and Goal GB. :handclap:
Now 2nd and goal. ;)
Edit: TD Grant! 14-14 baby! :yo:
hahahah this game is epic. Needs more turnovers though.
NFC suckage is so entertaining.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 04:22 PM Packers showing some heart and character with the comeback. Godo game. Love the snow falling down!:yo:
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 04:26 PM Alright, 14-14. Please start kicking the **** out of this fraud, Green Bay.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 04:26 PM alright, alright, 14-14
VelvetJones 01-12-2008, 04:26 PM Comeback time.
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In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 04:27 PM sooooo much snow
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:28 PM Comeback time.
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/8393/nflgpackerfan412kf3.jpg
That is an awesome pic. :biglaugh:
Edit: Packers recover the fumble! :yo:
hahahahah this conference is the best.
It's like watching amateur sports.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:30 PM hahahahah this conference is the best.
It's like watching amateur sports.
Like a 6-0 lead at the half in the Tennessee v. San Diego game?
Jared Ramsden 01-12-2008, 04:30 PM It's a fumble fest! haha. Final score, 49-42 Green Bay!:biglaugh:
Like a 6-0 lead at the half in the Tennessee v. San Diego game?
A defensive struggle?
danroy 01-12-2008, 04:33 PM Jennings rules
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:33 PM A defensive struggle?
More like an offensive struggle.
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 04:34 PM 21-14. I'm still not satisfied. I want to see this fraud get ****ing destroyed. Let's go Green Bay, 3-4 more TDs.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:35 PM 21-14. I'm still not satisfied. I want to see this fraud get ****ing destroyed. Let's go Green Bay, 3-4 more TDs.
Well, I'm sure Seattle considers giving up 21 unanswered points a disaster right now.
This is the best first half in the playoffs this season.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 04:36 PM hahahahah this conference is the best.
It's like watching amateur sports.
You would be seeing exactly the same thing in the AFC if the weather was the same.
More like an offensive struggle.
Well you consider that the of the worst QBs in the league were in that game.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 04:37 PM What a choke job by the Seahawks...talk about blowing a golden opportunity offered to you.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 04:39 PM BIgby is beasty
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:39 PM Well you consider that the of the worst QBs in the league were in that game.
Rivers and Young? lol
Anyway, I think I'm getting a man crush on Bigby. That guy is a beast.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 04:41 PM What a choke job by the Seahawks...talk about blowing a golden opportunity offered to you.
they're no where near out of it
horrible call imo
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:45 PM Bigby is just flooring people. lol
Tuggy 01-12-2008, 04:46 PM Great game so far.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 04:52 PM Does snow empower the Packers?
Tuggy 01-12-2008, 04:59 PM :biglaugh: only Brett Favre.
The Mars Volchenkov 01-12-2008, 05:00 PM OK, that was a pretty awesome play.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 05:02 PM E P I C Favre right there
Seattlle is going to come out on F I R E in the 2nd half thou, no way are they done
VelvetJones 01-12-2008, 05:05 PM Farve deserves a avatar change.
FlyersGuy69 01-12-2008, 05:07 PM E P I C Favre right there
Seattlle is going to come out on F I R E in the 2nd half thou, no way are they done
well since taking a gift 14 point lead they have been outscored 28-3 and haven't been able to move the ball with any consistency. not to mention they have been unable to stop the Packers. IMO, Seattle is as close as you can get to being 'done'.
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 05:09 PM Well you consider that the of the worst QBs in the league were in that game.
I thought in that game there was a guy named Tomlinson, though?
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 05:13 PM E P I C Favre right there
Seattlle is going to come out on F I R E in the 2nd half thou, no way are they done
I've said this once and i'll say it again and again, Seattle is a complete fraud. They're done. The only thing Seattle has coming to them in the 2nd half is getting gang banged even worse by Green Bay. They wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Todd Collins and the Washington o-line sucking ass all day. By the end of the night, i'll be relieved to know that a fraud is gone from the postseason.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 05:18 PM Hard to believe there's still an entire half left in this game.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 05:23 PM I've said this once and i'll say it again and again, Seattle is a complete fraud. They're done. The only thing Seattle has coming to them in the 2nd half is getting gang banged even worse by Green Bay. They wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for Todd Collins and the Washington o-line sucking ass all day. By the end of the night, i'll be relieved to know that a fraud is gone from the postseason.
still Holmgren and Hasselback, don't trust em, I can't put them away til its over
Tuggy 01-12-2008, 05:27 PM This game is over.
danroy 01-12-2008, 05:28 PM this game is about over
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 05:29 PM Keep pouring it on, Green Bay. Embarass this POS fraud team.
This is disgusting the only team left that I dont hate in the nfc is gonna lose. I'm sure that means the colts are gonna win the afc then I'm stuck watching teams I hate play for it all
:cry: :madfire:
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 05:39 PM That is some big snow coming down now.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 05:51 PM Crazy, shut it off near the end of the first half with the snow letting up...eat supper, turn it back on and it's a blizzard out there like the Bills/Browns game. Awesome stuff.
What do you say to this defense?
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 05:56 PM Packers are... packing... it away in the second half. ;)
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 06:00 PM Packers are... packing... it away in the second half. ;)
Very punny.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 06:15 PM Isn't a backwards pass that goes "incomplete" actually a fumble?
monster_bertuzzi 01-12-2008, 06:22 PM Seattle's lack of running game and crappy offensive line other than all-pro Jones came back and bit them right in the ass. They better address that in the off-season.:teach:
monster_bertuzzi 01-12-2008, 06:23 PM Keep pouring it on, Green Bay. Embarass this POS fraud team.
What are you a long time suffering Cardinals fan or something? I dont understand your clear fan-boy hatred towards Seattle.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 06:55 PM Alright, 14-14. Please start kicking the **** out of this fraud, Green Bay.
There ya go
Seattle's offence did nothing all game. This was about as one sided as a game can get.
Come on CBS, nobody gives a **** about Garrard's intestines, get to the damn game.
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 07:18 PM What are you a long time suffering Cardinals fan or something? I dont understand your clear fan-boy hatred towards Seattle.
No, i'm a Patriots fan and I hate them because they came into the playoffs as a fraud and I can't stand frauds. It goes for any team. I wouldn't of been hating on Seattle if they were legit.
monster_bertuzzi 01-12-2008, 07:21 PM No, i'm a Patriots fan and I hate them because they came into the playoffs as a fraud and I can't stand frauds. It goes for any team. I wouldn't of been hating on Seattle if they were legit.
They were the third best team in the NFC, no better - no worse. And the game would have been a lot closer if a timely snow blizzard didn't hit the field. Anyways...lets go Jags. 7-0.
USF Shark 01-12-2008, 07:25 PM hell of a drive by Jacksonville capped off by that great pass.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 07:25 PM TD Jax!~
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 07:25 PM Gerrard with a Favre like throw for the touchdown.
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 07:27 PM Too bad he was down.
jaydub* 01-12-2008, 07:27 PM matt jones has so much talent, too bad he doesn't really care about football
FlyersGuy69 01-12-2008, 07:27 PM hell of a drive by Jacksonville capped off by that great pass.
yup, great start for the Jags. let's hope their defense plays as well.
The Man in White 01-12-2008, 07:27 PM That was...wonderful. Hope they can keep it up.
FlyersGuy69 01-12-2008, 07:28 PM Too bad he was down.
too bad Belicheck waited to throw the challenge flag.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 07:29 PM Brady sacked!
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-12-2008, 07:30 PM Kind of funny that the Pats shut down the running game on the opening drive, yet it was Garrard and his arm that got it done. Hopefully Jax keeps it up all game.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 07:31 PM too bad Belicheck waited to throw the challenge flag.
He would have lost the challenge. Too close to reverse the call.
Oilbleeder 01-12-2008, 07:34 PM Patriots Offence responding in a big way.
EDIT: As I type, a TD is scored. Just like that.
go_leafs_go02 01-12-2008, 07:36 PM yeah..that offense was dominant!
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-12-2008, 07:41 PM So New England went for it on 4th and 5? I understand it was from the 40, so I guess it makes some sense, as a 57 yarder may be too much for Gotskowski, but wouldn't it make some sense to punt? I mean, if they get stopped Jax is nearly at mid-field.
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 07:42 PM FUMMMMMMMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Woop.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 07:46 PM If the AFC is so good how come they can't stop the absolutely worthless NE running backs.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-12-2008, 07:48 PM If the AFC is so good how come they can't stop the absolutely worthless NE running backs.
Because they're not worthless. Laurence Maroney is a good running back, but just never gets used. I think BB's starting to realize he has to put the ball in his hands or else teams might be able to, ya know, shut down Brady.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 07:49 PM If the AFC is so good how come they can't stop the absolutely worthless NE running backs.
If you think Kevin Faulk is worthless, you haven't been paying attention. Mauroney is pretty good, too.
They're getting great blocks on a lot of those runs. They really missed Kyle Brady when he was out, he's making a big difference now.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 07:53 PM And let the tanking begin for Jacksonville.
jaydub* 01-12-2008, 08:03 PM And let the tanking begin for Jacksonville.
pats can't stop the jags either
SpinTheBlackCircle 01-12-2008, 08:03 PM Garrard is player. Whew
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 08:10 PM pats can't stop the jags either
Apparently not. That was impressive.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 08:16 PM Jaguars can't tackle at all.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 08:19 PM Come on Jags, tackle the damn player!
Mathis is a great cover guy and all, but he can't tackle tonight.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 08:30 PM 14-14 at halftime.
Come on Jacksonville, don't give up!
LET'S GO JAGUARS!!!!:yo:
Chaos Engine 01-12-2008, 08:36 PM 14-14 at halftime.
Come on Jacksonville, don't give up!
LET'S GO JAGUARS!!!!:yo:
How the hell did Gostkowski miss that field goal? I could have made that.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 08:36 PM Rooting for the Jags to pull of the upset in the 2nd half. It's pretty encouraging for them as a team to be tied at halftime regardless.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 08:40 PM Rooting for the Jags to pull of the upset in the 2nd half. It's pretty encouraging for them as a team to be tied at halftime regardless.
Yep, especially compared to their last meeting in the playoffs in which the Pats won 28-7.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 08:43 PM Got my fingers crossed for the Jags.
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 08:43 PM For the Pats, this must feel like deja vu all over again from the Ravens game.
They've got to focus on stopping Taylor and Jones-Drew, heck, keep 8 guys in the box. I'm not too worried about the Jags beating them in man coverage. And DON'T get caught biting on play fakes.
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 08:49 PM For the Pats, this must feel like deja vu all over again from the Ravens game.
Ummmmmm, no. In the Baltimore game, the Ravens were kicking our ass on both sides of the ball. In this game, our offense is playing well and our defense sucks. And another key difference, Baltimore was a terrible '07 team and Jacksonville is a legit playoff team. Far from being deja vu.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 08:52 PM Great fake by Brady there.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 08:52 PM Wow, did the defense ever fall hard for that.
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 08:53 PM Wow, did the defense ever fall hard for that.
It faked me out and I was watching on TV.
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 09:00 PM Wow, did the defense ever fall hard for that.
On the replay just the DB that was covering Welker fell for it badly. Looked like the safeties stayed where they were supposed to. The guy covering Welker bit and he was open. Then again, all you need is one guy and it works.
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 09:05 PM Ummmmmm, no. In the Baltimore game, the Ravens were kicking our ass on both sides of the ball. In this game, our offense is playing well and our defense sucks. And another key difference, Baltimore was a terrible '07 team and Jacksonville is a legit playoff team. Far from being deja vu.
Yeah, deja vu isn't the word I was looking for...I meant more this is the most uneasy feeling I've had about a game at halftime since the game vs. Baltimore. This game also doesn't have the insane wind conditions that played to the Ravens power running game...so yeah, not deja vu exactly.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 09:06 PM Thanks Northcutt. You should have caught that.
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 09:07 PM Northcutt has to catch that. Great throw by Garrard with pressure in his face for the 1st down and maybe a touchdown but it goes through Northcutt's hands.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 09:11 PM Jags need a stop here. Can't let the Patriots go up by 2 scores.
Chaos Engine 01-12-2008, 09:15 PM Maroney is having a fantastic game. I was getting pretty annoyed with people mentioning how the Jags shut down the Steelers' running game last week. Especially considering they shut down Davenport, not Parker.
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 09:16 PM Watson with his second TD!!!!!!!!!!!
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 09:16 PM Jags need a stop here. Can't let the Patriots go up by 2 scores.
So much for that.
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 09:17 PM Elementary, my dear Watson.
Cyclops II* 01-12-2008, 09:17 PM Jaguar defense is a pile of manure.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 09:17 PM Big, big TD.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 09:18 PM :cry:
Come on Jacksonville, it isn't over just yet! Just BLITZ Brady once in a while.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 09:20 PM Will Jax stick with the run and eat a lot of clock? Or will they play away from their strengths and throw the ball?
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 09:20 PM And this game looks to be about over.
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 09:22 PM Will Jax stick with the run and eat a lot of clock? Or will they play away from their strengths and throw the ball?
I'm betting on the latter. Pats haven't exactly shown they can stop the Jags through the air.
jaydub* 01-12-2008, 09:25 PM jags have some good WRs
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 09:29 PM If Jags score here, they have to stop New England. Period. New England cannot be allowed to march down the field eat up the time and worst of all, score.
Moskau 01-12-2008, 09:32 PM It looked like on the replay that Jones was more worried about bracing his fall than catching that ball.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 09:34 PM kicking the field goal was a poor decision I think. They needed a touchdown on that drive. Basically they are looking at a 15 point defecit now with about 3 minutes to play. Their defence has been terrible.
kingsholygrail 01-12-2008, 09:37 PM And Jacksonville is doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing now.
This game is done. Tomorrow decides who plays New England in the AFC Championship.
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 09:38 PM Man...you tend to forget with this Pats team, Stallworth is a heck of a wideout.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 09:38 PM It is too bad the score will probably look close, because in all actuality this was one of New England's more dominating performances of the season.
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 09:38 PM Hard to decide what was more incredible: the throw by Brady or the catch by Stallworth. Wow.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 09:40 PM And Jacksonville is doing exactly what they shouldn't be doing now.
This game is done. Tomorrow decides who plays New England in the AFC Championship.
this game was done when Jacksonville decided to kick that field goal. What good did it do? I know they have to show some confidence in their defence, but this is one of the more pathetic defensive performances in nfl history. I have never seen a team rush 3 play after play and still leave so many receivers open.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 09:42 PM Very unwise reverse.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 09:43 PM this game was done when Jacksonville decided to kick that field goal. What good did it do? I know they have to show some confidence in their defence, but this is one of the more pathetic defensive performances in nfl history. I have never seen a team rush 3 play after play and still leave so many receivers open.
If they don't get a TD, they would be down by an extra four points. Could of, should of.....
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 09:44 PM It is too bad the score will probably look close, because in all actuality this was one of New England's more dominating performances of the season.
On offense, yes.
On defense, not even close.
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 09:47 PM this game was done when Jacksonville decided to kick that field goal. What good did it do?
Game was done when Brady made the play to Stallworth. They had the screen sniffed out and the Pats like always make the play because Stallworth improvised and Brady saw it. You take the points instead of not getting it on 4th down and being down two scores. Even with a TD you still have to stop them and come back and score. If it was a less than TD lead, there's no way the Pats settle for a FG on that 4th and 1.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 09:48 PM On offense, yes.
On defense, not even close.
The Patriots D has been OK, certainly not bad. The Jags offense looks more impressive because of the long sustained drives, in the end, they only have 20 points and no TD's in the 2nd half.
jaydub* 01-12-2008, 09:48 PM lollers
Moskau 01-12-2008, 09:49 PM Phantom penalty, ouch.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 09:49 PM On offense, yes.
On defense, not even close.
There defence is really not as good as advertised, its just never on the field. I mean the Dolphins put up up 400 yards on them. The Dolphins probably went an entire month without 400 yards.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 09:50 PM Game was done when Brady made the play to Stallworth. They had the screen sniffed out and the Pats like always make the play because Stallworth improvised and Brady saw it. You take the points instead of not getting it on 4th down and being down two scores. Even with a TD you still have to stop them and come back and score. If it was a less than TD lead, there's no way the Pats settle for a FG on that 4th and 1.
They haven't shown they can stop the Pats though. At least with the td you can still allow the field goal and keep it a one posession game, but everybody knew New England would score right after that, they scored on every drive except for the drive where they missed a field goal.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 09:52 PM :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Marc the Habs Fan 01-12-2008, 09:54 PM Over.
Very good season, Jaguars.
jaydub* 01-12-2008, 09:55 PM the colts-pats game is going to be pretty close
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 09:55 PM They haven't shown they can stop the Pats though. At least with the td you can still allow the field goal and keep it a one posession game, but everybody knew New England would score right after that, they scored on every drive except for the drive where they missed a field goal.
You have to stop New England whether it's a TD or FG. You're going to need two scores. They got a score and didn't get the stop. It happens. It's better than missing on 4th down and putting the team behind the 8 ball right there. They still had a shot, the Pats just made the play they needed to make.
parabola 01-12-2008, 09:55 PM the colts-pats game is going to be pretty close
:teach:
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 09:56 PM There defence is really not as good as advertised, its just never on the field. I mean the Dolphins put up up 400 yards on them. The Dolphins probably went an entire month without 400 yards.
Yeah, the majority of that in garbage time of a blowout loss.
Garbs 01-12-2008, 09:57 PM Congratulations Jacksonville defense, you've contained Randy Moss.
You just forgot about everyone else.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:02 PM Yeah, the majority of that in garbage time of a blowout loss.
there isn't garbage time the way the Pats run up the score.
Sly Winkle 01-12-2008, 10:03 PM Well, the better team won. The game was there to be had though, with a healthy defense and decent defensive strategy the Jags could have pulled off the upset. The defense they played today was absolutely baffling. You can't rush 4 or even 3 all night and give Brady all the time in the world. He'll pick you apart, and he did. Very stupid way to play the Pats. You'd think they would have watched tape of the Philly and Baltimore games.
Anyway, it was a good year to be a Jags fan.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:04 PM You have to stop New England whether it's a TD or FG. You're going to need two scores. They got a score and didn't get the stop. It happens. It's better than missing on 4th down and putting the team behind the 8 ball right there. They still had a shot, the Pats just made the play they needed to make.
if they gamble and get the td, and then convert the 2 pointer, it would have been a 3 point game. If you can hold the Pats to a field goal it is only a one score game. Lining up for the field goal made it a de facto 3 score game. (including the field goal they made) It was a totally gutless move. They still probably would have lost, but that was a white flag move.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 10:04 PM Oh well, at least the Jags made it to the divisional round when a lot thought the season was over when Del Rio went to Garrard.
Congrats to the Pats.
19nazzy 01-12-2008, 10:04 PM That would be 17-0.
Garbs 01-12-2008, 10:05 PM I'm excited even though my Steelers are out.
Quick Picks:
I've been trying to find a reason to pick the Jacksonville Jaguars and I will be pulling for them but I think New England has the advantage there.
New England over Jacksonville 37-20
Not bad.
Bobo420 01-12-2008, 10:06 PM You realize in the 2 meetings so far, Manning is 51-75, 548 yards, 5 TDs, 3 INTs. He isn't having trouble scoring on Dallas.
The Giants secondary is playing like ####.
He can score touchdowns, but he creates a lot of turnovers too.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:06 PM Well, the better team won. The game was there to be had though, with a healthy defense and decent defensive strategy the Jags could have pulled off the upset. The defense they played today was absolutely baffling. You can't rush 4 or even 3 all night and give Brady all the time in the world. He'll pick you apart, and he did. Very stupid way to play the Pats. You'd think they would have watched tape of the Philly and Baltimore games.
Anyway, it was a good year to be a Jags fan.
Even more baffling than the game long prevent defence was the commentators sickening adoration of it.
Zeus54 01-12-2008, 10:07 PM Not bad.
New England 31, Jacksonville 23. I am a huge Patriots fan, but I think this one will be close. The Jags are a great team, but they nearly lost last week because they got complacent after they went up big on Pittsburgh. They won't get complacent here because obviously they won't be taking any big leads on New England.
Booya.
Too bad Jacksonville didn't get another FG, or I would of been dead on.
dafoomie 01-12-2008, 10:08 PM New record for highest completion % in a playoff game.
Garrard is a very nice little player. With the talent pool so thin, if you've got a legit QB you're better than half the league automatically.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 10:09 PM The Jags really need to get a standout # 1 wide receiver to compete with the other elite teams next season. If they can get a top receiver and get some depth in the secondary, they can once again make some noise in the playoffs. It is still a very young team and will be ready to compete next season.
EDIT----Actually, Jags also need a top flight DE as well....with Allen an UFA, he should be the #1 target.
Garbs 01-12-2008, 10:11 PM Booya.
Too bad Jacksonville didn't get another FG, or I would of been dead on.
Didn't see yours. Nice.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:12 PM New record for highest completion % in a playoff game.
Garrard is a very nice little player. With the talent pool so thin, if you've got a legit QB you're better than half the league automatically.
I was very impressed with Garrard today. To be honest I have not followed Jacksonville at all until the Pittsburgh game last week and he impressed me with his ability to play under pressure. I do get the impression Del Rio is a crappy coach though (and has been for years). The whole hatchet incident a few years ago and the constant underachieving of the team, and a questionable gameplan today (apparently they spent the last 3 weeks on this game!?) makes me think this team might be better off with a different head coach. That is just me though and like I said, I haven't followed them this year.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 10:15 PM I was very impressed with Garrard today. To be honest I have not followed Jacksonville at all until the Pittsburgh game last week and he impressed me with his ability to play under pressure. I do get the impression Del Rio is a crappy coach though (and has been for years). The whole hatchet incident a few years ago and the constant underachieving of the team, and a questionable gameplan today (apparently they spent the last 3 weeks on this game!?) makes me think this team might be better off with a different head coach. That is just me though and like I said, I haven't followed them this year.
You really haven't followed this team much.
Del Rio has worked miracles with this team. He has made them into a smashmouth football team than can not only grind out win, but score a lot too (6th highest scoring team this season). I only expect the Jags to get better.
Hockeyfan02 01-12-2008, 10:16 PM if they gamble and get the td, and then convert the 2 pointer, it would have been a 3 point game. If you can hold the Pats to a field goal it is only a one score game. Lining up for the field goal made it a de facto 3 score game. (including the field goal they made) It was a totally gutless move. They still probably would have lost, but that was a white flag move.
Agree to disagree. I don't think that cost them the game at all, but whatever. Moot points.
I do agree the Jags defense was in prevent for too much of the game. I liked their gameplan of trying to not give up the big play and taking Moss(did he play tonight?) away. That worked, but at the expense of giving Brady time to pick them apart. I think making the Pats have to work down the field is better than giving up the home run to Moss, but you have to pressure Brady. If Brady has time, he's going to kill you. They tried to do it too late in the game on that late drive where Brady hit Stallworth. Brady was excellent tonight. Made all the throws he needed to make. Garrard was very good as well. He's a very good QB, no one knows about him because he plays for the Jags. This was his coming out party and I think he's legit. They made a smart move letting Leftwich go. Jags are a very good team, the Pats just made more plays tonight. About time they gave Maroney the ball...he can make plays when given a chance.
CUBErt 01-12-2008, 10:17 PM Mike Smith and Jack Del Rio should be ashamed of themselves IMO. No adjustments, no nothing. Not until it was too late anyways.. Way to play not to lose :shakehead
Hank Chinaski 01-12-2008, 10:22 PM You really haven't followed this team much.
Del Rio has worked miracles with this team. He has made them into a smashmouth football team than can not only grind out win, but score a lot too (6th highest scoring team this season). I only expect the Jags to get better.
Been very impressed with this Jags team all year. With this core of players and Del Rio, they will be contenders for awhile yet.
I agree with what you said earlier, about their receivers. Wilford and Northcutt are great as No. 2 receivers, and Jones (who I used to think was a joke at receiver, he used to look every bit like a converted college QB) seems to be developing nicely. But they don't really have a true No. 1 wideout who can stretch the field.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:25 PM You really haven't followed this team much.
Del Rio has worked miracles with this team. He has made them into a smashmouth football team than can not only grind out win, but score a lot too (6th highest scoring team this season). I only expect the Jags to get better.
you don't need to be so agressive, I was just asking because I haven't seen them much and I knew his job was rumoured to be in jeapardy before the season started.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 10:26 PM you don't need to be so agressive, I was just asking because I haven't seen them much and I knew his job was rumoured to be in jeapardy before the season started.
That was because they finished 8-8 after a 12-4 season.
It was also on the line because of the switch from Leftwich to Garrard.
The teams that gave the Pats trouble this year(Dallas, Indy, Philly, Baltimore, and the Giants) all did it by blitzing pretty much every down. So Jack Del Rio spends the week gameplanning to not rush his linemen and drop the linebackers into coverage when they have Wes Welker running down the seams?
Bill Belichick always has a good gameplan. The defense didn't look great, but they only allowed 2 TDs, and the one where Garrard was falling could've been a third down stop. I can't wait to see what they throw together for the Colts.
CUBErt 01-12-2008, 10:30 PM I do agree the Jags defense was in prevent for too much of the game. I liked their gameplan of trying to give up the big play and taking Moss(did he play tonight?) away. That worked, but at the expense of giving Brady time to pick them apart. I think making the Pats have to work down the field is better than giving up the home run to Moss, but you have to pressure Brady. If Brady has time, he's going to kill you. They tried to do it too late in the game on that late drive where Brady hit Stallworth.
Exactly how I feel. It might have been a good plan in the beginning, but it became clear pretty quickly that they were merely stalling the Patriots instead of stopping them and letting their defense get tired in the process. At that time, the Jags still didn't try to change anything. I guess they hoped or even believed that sooner or later they would stop Brady and the Patriots short. Turns out, that didn't happen. What a surprise.
I'm not saying they should have thrown the house at him on every play, but please - take some chances here and there.
I wouldn't be so pissed off if I hadn't had such high hopes for this Jaguars team. I really liked them this year (as I always seem to) and thought they had a legitimate shot at winning, if they just could have gotten into a situation where they could control the tempo with their running game. Too bad they didn't have Stroud and/or Peterson around, but that's the way the game is.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:30 PM The teams that gave the Pats trouble this year(Dallas, Indy, Philly, Baltimore, and the Giants) all did it by blitzing pretty much every down. So Jack Del Rio spends the week gameplanning to not rush his linemen and drop the linebackers into coverage when they have Wes Welker running down the seams?
Bill Belichick always has a good gameplan. The defense didn't look great, but they only allowed 2 TDs, and the one where Garrard was falling could've been a third down stop. I can't wait to see what they throw together for the Colts.
realistically I think the Colts are the only team that can beat New England.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-12-2008, 10:36 PM If Stroud and Peterson were both healthy, I bet you anything the Jags would have rushed more. Fact is, they were lacking the proper personnel for blitzes at key moments in the game.
realistically I think the Colts are the only team that can beat New England.
Without Freeney it's gonna be difficult for them. Especially if Harrison isn't at 100% yet. Should be a good game, but I'd take the Pats in it.
Fish on The Sand 01-12-2008, 10:47 PM Without Freeney it's gonna be difficult for them. Especially if Harrison isn't at 100% yet. Should be a good game, but I'd take the Pats in it.
I would take the Pats too, but keep in mind the Colts almost beat the Pats with no Harrison at all, so even a rusted Harrison is an improvement right?
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 10:50 PM just was at NFL.com why is Brian Westbrook doing interviews/reporting for NHF network??? his interview with Favre just seemed akward, idk, not really bad, just weird.
In The Flesh 01-12-2008, 10:51 PM c'mon G men, gonna be pullling for them hard, its going to be tough, but its also hard to beat a team 3 times in a season.l
CUBErt 01-12-2008, 10:53 PM If the Patriots get to the SB, which I really don't want to happen, I'd love to see the Packers against them. I think that would be a great matchup with Harris, Woodson and Bigby beating up the Patriot receivers, Favre spreading the ball around by throwing quick passes and Grant running the ball to balance out the attack (and being surprisingly effective at it).
New England would probably still win, but it could be a really sweet game. And you know everyone would just hate NE even more if they were the ones who stopped Favre and the Packers from winning it all :)
WhipNash27 01-12-2008, 10:58 PM The only team who has stopped the Patriots offense all year was the Jets. They held them to one offensive touchdown which was a run when they got the ball at the 2 yard line after a punt block. Why don't teams look at what they did?
brownman* 01-12-2008, 11:02 PM lol the Pats would obliterate the Packers, as would the Colts
i.e. the NFC hasn't got a chance
Chaos Engine 01-12-2008, 11:11 PM The only team who has stopped the Patriots offense all year was the Jets. They held them to one offensive touchdown which was a run when they got the ball at the 2 yard line after a punt block. Why don't teams look at what they did?
Because making a conscious effort to be more like the Jets is admitting defeat.
CUBErt 01-12-2008, 11:36 PM lol the Pats would obliterate the Packers, as would the Colts
i.e. the NFC hasn't got a chance
I don't understand why the idea should be laughable. Last time I checked, NFC teams and AFC teams were 32-32 this year playing against each other, New England had some tough games against the Eagles and the Giants, and Green Bay was 4-0 against the AFC, including a win over the Chargers.
I think your info is outdated by a year.
Sly Winkle 01-13-2008, 01:17 AM Man I wish the Jags were in the NFC south.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-13-2008, 01:27 AM The only team who has stopped the Patriots offense all year was the Jets. They held them to one offensive touchdown which was a run when they got the ball at the 2 yard line after a punt block. Why don't teams look at what they did?
I don't think the Colts or Chargers strengths include creating weather.
Zeus54 01-13-2008, 01:42 AM I don't think the Colts or Chargers strengths include creating weather.
The weather had no effect in the Jets-Pats game. I believe it snowed earlier in the day, but everything was fine by kickoff. Hate to admit it, but the Jets defense pretty much owned us all game. It was pathetic.
Bobby Ryan Getzlaf 01-13-2008, 02:25 AM The weather had no effect in the Jets-Pats game. I believe it snowed earlier in the day, but everything was fine by kickoff. Hate to admit it, but the Jets defense pretty much owned us all game. It was pathetic.
Really? I didn't watch the game, but from what I could tell weather was a factor. Wow.
Anyway, if the Colts can beat the Chargers I'm confident they'll give New England a run for it's money. Not having Freeney sucks, but then again they also lost like 5 defensive starters due to free agency(June, Harper, David) or injury(Booger, Morris) beginning this season and only got better. As long as Bob Sanders plays, I'm not sure having no Freeney will matter.
Vic Rattlehead* 01-13-2008, 11:19 AM Man I wish the Jags were in the NFC south.
Agreed. The Jags would have probably been the #1 seed in the NFC.
The weather had no effect in the Jets-Pats game. I believe it snowed earlier in the day, but everything was fine by kickoff. Hate to admit it, but the Jets defense pretty much owned us all game. It was pathetic.
The winds were swirling ridiculously, and pulled every pass of Brady's off target. That game can definitely be chalked up to the weather.
jaydub* 01-13-2008, 11:29 AM the indy-NE game should be good. im not sure either D will be able to stop anyone
Tuggy 01-13-2008, 11:44 AM What a game by the MVP last night. I figure we'll a rematch of last years AFC championship game but I would rather see the Chargers ;)
ComrieFanatic 01-13-2008, 11:45 AM Really? I didn't watch the game, but from what I could tell weather was a factor. Wow.
Anyway, if the Colts can beat the Chargers I'm confident they'll give New England a run for it's money. Not having Freeney sucks, but then again they also lost like 5 defensive starters due to free agency(June, Harper, David) or injury(Booger, Morris) beginning this season and only got better. As long as Bob Sanders plays, I'm not sure having no Freeney will matter.
Freeney is the biggest loss. He created a ton of confusion and pressure for Brady. While Sanders is a great defensive player, I don't see him having a huge role on stopping their passing game. If they don't get to Brady, they don't stand a chance at stopping him. On the other hand, I see him limiting their running game, which has sprung to life in the last few weeks. As for Harrison: I won't make final judgment on him until I see him play today, but any football player who hasn't played in a game or practiced for over 2 months likely won't have a big impact.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's the Pats D that will cost them a trip to the Super Bowl. They allow way too many big passing plays and that will kill you against Manning and the Colts. Can they tighten up? I think they have the talent to, but throughout the season they haven't changed.
ComrieFanatic 01-13-2008, 11:53 AM Agree to disagree. I don't think that cost them the game at all, but whatever. Moot points.
I do agree the Jags defense was in prevent for too much of the game. I liked their gameplan of trying to not give up the big play and taking Moss(did he play tonight?) away. That worked, but at the expense of giving Brady time to pick them apart. I think making the Pats have to work down the field is better than giving up the home run to Moss, but you have to pressure Brady. If Brady has time, he's going to kill you. They tried to do it too late in the game on that late drive where Brady hit Stallworth. Brady was excellent tonight. Made all the throws he needed to make. Garrard was very good as well. He's a very good QB, no one knows about him because he plays for the Jags. This was his coming out party and I think he's legit. They made a smart move letting Leftwich go. Jags are a very good team, the Pats just made more plays tonight. About time they gave Maroney the ball...he can make plays when given a chance.
I think arguably the biggest play of the night was on the Pats first drive, down 7-0. They had a 4th and 5 on the JAX 40. Brady throws his first and only pass to Moss for 14 yards. If they didn't convert there, the Jags could have gone up 10-0 or 14-0 and that would have been a whole new game.
Other than that, Moss was taken out of the game. But after that play, Brady had no trouble whatsoever making 1st downs, other than that dropped ball to Welker.
danroy 01-13-2008, 12:36 PM So i just turned on the game, saw the Harrison fumble. How's the feel of the game thus far?
Hockeyfan02 01-13-2008, 12:41 PM So i just turned on the game, saw the Harrison fumble. How's the feel of the game thus far?
Colts have been moving the ball pretty easily. Chargers were putting a drive together until a Colt DB jumped a route near the sideline and picked Rivers.
CUBErt 01-13-2008, 12:49 PM Marvin Harrison has never done anything in the playoffs. I like the guy, but isn't he at least a little bit overrated?
danroy 01-13-2008, 12:52 PM I can't stand Rivers and his constant *****ing
Death Taxes Conacher 01-13-2008, 12:54 PM I can't stand Rivers and his constant *****ing
I love how he slams the ball on the ground after false starts like a two year old.
danroy 01-13-2008, 12:54 PM Jackson has been on fire lately. Chargers TD
7-7
I want Jackson on Jackson. Badly.
FlyersGuy69 01-13-2008, 01:10 PM well, this looks like it's going to be a good back and forth game.
danroy 01-13-2008, 01:17 PM well bob sanders ruined that
Dr Love 01-13-2008, 01:20 PM Bob Sanders is the new Rodney Harrison.
Raven25 01-13-2008, 01:20 PM Pretty funny there - theyre buddies from Iowa, Im sure he wasnt trashing him
Good game so far - Rivers having trouble with the crowd noise, but looks okay
Raven25 01-13-2008, 01:24 PM Watching the replay that was an ugly kick by Kaeding n one last week too
danroy 01-13-2008, 01:26 PM WOW Cromartie is awesome
Raven25 01-13-2008, 01:26 PM Hell Ya !!! Cro Strikes - Chargers!!!
Marc the Habs Fan 01-13-2008, 01:27 PM Cromartie is UNREAL. Too bad for SD there was that flag.
Raven25 01-13-2008, 01:28 PM BULL#%@T - thats not holding - Seriously thats crap, should be a TD
Sweet pick by the CRO
Troy McClure 01-13-2008, 01:29 PM Holding my ass.
That was an atrocious call. No way was that holding. That should've been a TD.
I really don't follow either team, but after Bob Sanders acting like a total *****....I'm rooting for the Chargers now.
gobolt7 01-13-2008, 01:32 PM Looked like pretty textbook holding to me. It was dumb too, the guy that he held would not have been able to make a play on the ball.
Ronnie Bass 01-13-2008, 01:32 PM Holding my ass.
Amen, Turner has right to be red, that could have been a gamebreaker.
Zeus54 01-13-2008, 01:33 PM Should be 14-10 right now. But the officials can't stop their fetish for Indy, which i'm not surprised the least bit.
Hockeyfan02 01-13-2008, 01:34 PM He had his hands on the outside of the shoulders. I've seen that called a number of times this year for a hold. Ticky tack, but it wasn't a phantom call IMO.
Raven25 01-13-2008, 01:34 PM That was an atrocious call. No way was that holding. That should've been a TD.
I really don't follow either team, but after Bob Sanders acting like a total *****....I'm rooting for the Chargers now.
Its stuff like that gives some validity to the semi-arguments about biased officiating and the NFL wanting their showcase teams in the final 4
Boomer just agreed bad call
Im happy with the Bolts so far, we need to start with a good drive in the 3rd
klingsor 01-13-2008, 01:35 PM Gad, that call was putrid.
danroy 01-13-2008, 01:36 PM It doesn't matter, it is what it is. If San Diego can't overcome and win, then they don't deserve it. Though it seems like they're the kinda team that'll ***** about it and lose, then blame it on that call.
Delat 01-13-2008, 01:38 PM The Chargers played well. They were not lucky in the first half, if they keep the good play, they'll win. I hope...
GO CHARGERS!!!
Ronnie Bass 01-13-2008, 01:39 PM Gad, that call was putrid.
I haven't seen a bad call like this one that potentially can have an effect an outcome of a game since Super Bowl XXXV when the Giants had an interception returned for a TD called back on another horrid holding call.
Well, I'm sure there has been worse but for reason I had a flashback to that game.
Wasn't that TD also at the end of the 1st half?
kingsholygrail 01-13-2008, 01:39 PM Looked like holding to me. He wasn't blocking the guy. He was grabbing him and throwing him to the ground.
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