*Proposal* Jeff O'Neill to Phoenix

I hope not to offend, but wonder what you guys might think of such a proposal.

Brian Savage (LW), Mike Johnson (RW), 2nd Round Pick 2004
for
Jeff O'Neill & Bob Boughner

I will admit I don't know if I agree on the value, but the Coyotes aren't necessarily a good trading partner either. Boughner is an UFA at years end, so he is potentially gone anyway at that point. You obviously downgrade on O'Neill to Savage &/or Johnson, but you add a little depth to your wings as well as the 2nd rounder who could be a solid pickup.

Let me know what you think of it, and where it goes wrong, or where it goes right.

That doesn't fit the mold on what the Hurricanes are looking for, in my opinion.

I could be wrong, but both of those guy are older than O'Neill.. And well, Savage is basically a waste of space.

Bad proposal. We don't need depth of that kind on the wings.

O'Neill for Nagy, straight up :)

We've got a little excess depth on the right side, but overall we are not that deep of a team. I'm a big O'Neill fan, but you won't see a guy like Nagy moved. Ninety-nine percent of the time, these proposals are a waste, and I had a feeling this was part of that majority.

You have got to be kidding. NO ONE would touch Savage with a 10 foot hockey stick. Johnson is not a great acquision either. At best you could get a decent prospect for him or a 2nd round draft pick.

its not a matter of the value of the phoenix players here, the canes are looking to get young and cheaper-hopefully better in the end. the players you offer arent in that direction. if your looking for what the canes want-look at your own rebuild. that was one of the best renovations ive ever seen: khabi, renberg, tkachuk (i forget who else)-barnett turned 3 or 4 veterans into like 10 solid prospects and young players. the canes are trying to follow that kind of plan-without as many good assets to start with, unfortunately.

its not a matter of the value of the phoenix players here, the canes are looking to get young and cheaper-hopefully better in the end. the players you offer arent in that direction. if your looking for what the canes want-look at your own rebuild. that was one of the best renovations ive ever seen: khabi, renberg, tkachuk (i forget who else)-barnett turned 3 or 4 veterans into like 10 solid prospects and young players. the canes are trying to follow that kind of plan-without as many good assets to start with, unfortunately.

Seeing as Carolina might be in a younger cheaper mode, what about the following.

To Carolina - Sedin + Sedin + Mojzis
To Vancouver - O'Neill + Boughner + Cole

Carolina would get two solid forwards and a potential offensive defenseman prospect. Vancouver would add grit and experience for a cup run.

Seeing as Carolina might be in a younger cheaper mode, what about the following.

To Carolina - Sedin + Sedin + Mojzis
To Vancouver - O'Neill + Boughner + Cole

Carolina would get two solid forwards and a potential offensive defenseman prospect. Vancouver would add grit and experience for a cup run.
ill admit, thats one ive not seen before.
i think this would be pretty painful to both teams, although it would serve the purpose you listed. trading the core of your second line would in my opinion rip out the chemistry of your whole team. i also think cole is a player the canes are building around-and he makes pocket lint compared to most. a good reason for him not to go. i think the sedins are a good fit for the nucks-its just taking longer than the fans would like. ill give you credit for a different proposal- the value here is more than any other nuck offer ive seen. they are two young players who would help now and in the future-its just counter productive to trade cole. im interested to see what the other canes posters think of this. what do you think guys? :dunno:

what do you think guys? :dunno:

Personally, I think it would be a very bad deal for Carolina.

Personally, I think it would be a very bad deal for Carolina.
i agree it isnt ideal-but it would fit into rutherfords plan. depends if you think the sedins still have a high end to them.

The Canucks won't trade the Sedins, especially the way they've been playing the last month. They'll look to acquire a RW'er to play on their line if anything.

The Canucks won't trade the Sedins, especially the way they've been playing the last month. They'll look to acquire a RW'er to play on their line if anything.
i agree totally that it is a preposterous offer - i only look at it from a fun point of view. if some of the other junk that gets talked about gets a few posts-this one is deserving as well-if only for a few laughs.

The Canucks won't trade the Sedins, especially the way they've been playing the last month. They'll look to acquire a RW'er to play on their line if anything.

Thanks for the typical response. I will admit that it is highly unlikely that Burke would make this move however, you sure don't have a crystal ball to say Vancouver will or won't make moves. Why don't you learn to use qualifiers like in my opinion or I don't believe.

People get tired of hearing their proposals brushed off with your constant use of Van will do this and Van won't do that. Also, back up your thoughts with some reasons.

Too bad, because you are a knowledgable fan and a Canuck backer!

Thanks for the typical response. I will admit that it is highly unlikely that Burke would make this move however, you sure don't have a crystal ball to say Vancouver will or won't make moves. Why don't you learn to use qualifiers like in my opinion or I don't believe.

People get tired of hearing their proposals brushed off with your constant use of Van will do this and Van won't do that. Also, back up your thoughts with some reasons.

Too bad, because you are a knowledgable fan and a Canuck backer!

Do I need to explain why the Canucks won't trade the Sedins? It's pretty much common knowledge, he's Burke's golden boys. Why would he trade them when they are starting to show why they were draft 2nd and 3rd overall?

BTW, care to show me some other proposals where I have said I know what Vancouver will do? I always either say IMO or back up my reasoning. Thanks for noticing though!

Seeing as Carolina might be in a younger cheaper mode, what about the following.

To Carolina - Sedin + Sedin + Mojzis
To Vancouver - O'Neill + Boughner + Cole

Carolina would get two solid forwards and a potential offensive defenseman prospect. Vancouver would add grit and experience for a cup run.

:joker:

Vancouver homer alert.

Mosjis. Is this the same guy getting benched in manitoba? yes it is.

Sedins :joker:

Why don't you learn to use qualifiers like in my opinion or I don't believe.

Unless otherwise noted, I would say that it's pretty much common sense that when someone types something, it is their opinion.

fwiw, i see no harm in making the offer, there is no need for bickering between "nuckers" on our board. he brought the idea for us to respond to, and hes getting blasted by other nuckers more than us! i have no problem with that offer- its the one offer ive seen that showed something coming back that would be young, talented, and inserted into our lineup. its a rare offer with an attempt to keep US in mind when trading oneill instead of only the nucks. i agree its too much for us to throw in cole in an oneill deal, and the nucks are highly unlikely to trade the sedins - but this is all for fun, right? none of us have any idea what we're talking about. well never know what the gms REALLY discuss-we talk of value like we have hidden insight or something. there are a lot of bad offers out there-but there have some pretty bad trades, as well - who are we to say what will or will not happen. the best we can do is speculate, lets have fun with it.