ATD #9 Part I

Welcome to ATD #9

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 3 extra players.* (based on ATD#8 format, this can change depending on what direction the discussion takes over the next two and a half weeks)

Trading is allowed. Trades must be equal in numbers, 2 picks for 2 picks, 1 player and a pick for 2 picks, and so on. Really lopsided trades can be vetoed

You MUST PM the GM after you once you have made your pick. Failure to do so will mean banishment by catapult and forfeiting your first round draft pick to Glace Bay....okay maybe not...but please do PM the next GM

Announcment: The clock begins ticking at midnight on Friday night (March 28th). Thus whoever is up at that point will have until 8am EST to make their selection. Please be aware of whether or not you are coming up at this point as it's early in the morning on the left coast. Thus, send a PM to me before going to bed indicating who you'd like selected. After this the clock will begin as soon as someone makes their pick. The clock for the first set of rounds will be 8 hours.




Draft List

Round One
1. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques - Bobby Orr, D.
2. nikjr - Lada Togliatti - Wayne Gretzky, C.
3. reckoning - Ottawa 67's - Gordie Howe, RW
4. cottonking - Dallas Freeze - Doug Harvey, D.
5. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins - Mario Lemieux C
6. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers - Eddie Shore, D.
7. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Patrick Roy, G.
8. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex - Bobby Hull, LW.
9. Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jean Beliveau, C.
10.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles - Maurice Richard, RW
11.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks Guy Lafleur, RW
12.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -Raymond Bourque, D.
13.seventieslord - Regina Pats - Jacques Plante, G.
14.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings - Dominik Hasek, G.
15.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets - Denis Potvin, D.
16.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts - Mark Messier, C.
17.McLovin - Montreal Maroons - Howie Morenz, C.
18.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders - Ted Lindsay, LW
19.Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings - Mike Bossy, RW
20.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons - - Red Kelly D
21.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons - Stan Mikita, C.
22.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Martin Brodeur, G.
23.pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Bobby Clarke, C.
24.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven - Nik Lidstrom, D.
25.Papershoes and Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees - Terry Sawchuk, G.
26.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Phil Esposito, C.
27.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters - Glenn Hall, G.
28.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers - Larry Robinson, D.
29.Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Springfield Isotopes - Ken Dryden, G.
30.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Bryan Trottier, C.
31.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters - Frank Mahovlich, LW
32.VanIslander & Frightened Inmate#2 - Kingston RMC Paladins - Steve Yzerman, C.

Round Two
33. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Slava Fetisov, D.
34. Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters - Vladislav Tretiak, G.
35. shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -Bill Durnan, G.
36. Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Sprinfield Isotopes - Brad Park, D.
37. God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers - Milt Schmidt, C.
38. Bring Back Bucky - Donair City Loch Ness Monsters - Dit Clapper, D.
39. Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Chris Chelios, D.
40. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees - Paul Coffey,D.
41. Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven - Jaromir Jagr, RW.
42. cottonking - Dallas Freeze - Turk Broda, G.
43. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scott Stevens, D.
44. pappyline - Buffalo Bisons - Pierre Pilote, D.
45. LapierreSports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers - Bernie 'Boom Boom' Geoffrion, RW
46. Nalyd Psycho& FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Earl Seibert, D.
47. Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts - Tim Horton, D.
48. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers - Bernie Parent, G.
49. Roger's Pancreas & MiamiScreamingEagles - Calgary Stampeders - Al MacInnis, D.
50. vcl & WillieforCaptain - Winnipeg Jets - Joe Sakic, C.
51. Nate the Great & Chaosrevolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex - Jari Kurri, RW
52. seventieslord - Regina Pats - Gilbert Perreault, C
53. Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice - Valeri Kharlamov, LW.
54. arbezz - Inglewood Jacks - Brian Leetch, D.
55. Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers - Newsy Lalonde
56. Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings - Billy Smith, G.
57. Spitfire - Detroit Red Wings -Cyclone Taylor,
58. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Henri Richard, C.
59. McLovin - Montreal Maroons
60. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
61. Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons
62. reckoning - Ottawa 67's
63. nikjr - Lada Togliatti
64. Jungosi & LAXAttack - Quebec Nordiques

Round Three
65. Jungosi LAXAttack - Quebec Nordiques
66. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
67. reckoning - Ottawa 67's
68.LapierreSports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers -
69. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins
70. McLovin - Montreal Maroons
71. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
72. Spitfire - Detroit Red Wings
73. Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings
74.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
75.arbezz - Inglewood Jacks
76.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice
77.seventieslord - Regina Pats
78.Nate the Great & chaosrevolver - Montreal Saraurusrex
79.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets
80.Roger's Pancreas & MiamiScreamingEagles - Calgary Stampders
81.John Flyers Fan - Philadelphia Flyers
82.Pwnasaurus and JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
83.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire- Minnesota Fighting Saints -
84.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons -
85.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons
86.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
87.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons
88.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven
89.Rick Middleton&Sturminator- Springfield Isotopes
90.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners
91.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters
92.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers
93.Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Springfield Isotopes
94.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
95.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters -
96.BlueBleeder - St. Louis Eagles


Round Four
97. BlueBleeder - St. Louis Eagles
98. Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters
99. shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters
100. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees
101. God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers
102. Bring Back Bucky - Donair City Loch Ness Monsters
103. Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners
104. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees
105. Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven
106. cottonking - Dallas Freeze
107. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs
108. pappyline - Buffalo Bisons
109. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
110. Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings -
111. Rogers Pancreas & MiamiScreamingEagles - Calgary Stampeders
112. McLovin - Montreal Maroons
113. Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts
114. vcl & WillieforCaptain - Winnipeg Jets
115. Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings
116. seventieslord - Regina Pats
117. Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice
118. arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
119. Blue Bleeder - St. Louis Eagles
120. Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings
121. NatetheGreat & Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex
122. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
123. John Flyers Fan - Philadelphia Flyers
124. VanIslander & Frightened Inmate#2 - Kingston RMC Paladins
125. Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons
126. reckoning - Ottawa 67's
127. nikjr - Lada Togliatti
128. Jungosi & LAX Attack - Quebec Nordiques


Round 5
129. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques
130. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
131. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
132. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
133. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
134. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
135. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
136. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
137. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
138.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
139.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
140.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
141.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
142.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
143.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
144.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
145.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
146.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
147.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
148.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
149.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
150.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
151.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
152.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
153.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
154.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
155.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
156.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
157.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
158.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
159.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
160.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers

Round 6
161.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers
162.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
163.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
164.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
165.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
166.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
167.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
168.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
169.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
170.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
171.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
172.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
173.LapierreSports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers -
174.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
175.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
176.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
177.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
178.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
179.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
180.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
181.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
182.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
183.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
184. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
185. Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings
186. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
187. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
188. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers -
189. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
190. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
191. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
192. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques

Round 7
193. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques
194. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
195. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
196. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
197. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
198. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
199. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
200. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
201. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
202.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
203.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
204.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
205.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
206.Nate the Great & chaosrevolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex
207.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
208.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
209.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
210.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
211.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
212.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
213.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
214.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
215.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
216.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
217.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
218.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
219.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
220.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
221.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
222.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
223.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
224.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers

Round 8
225.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers
226.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
227.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
228.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
229.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
230.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
231.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
232.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
233.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
234.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
235.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
236.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
237.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
238.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints
239.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
240.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
241.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
242.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
243.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
244.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
245.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
246.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
247.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers248. Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints
249. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
250. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
251. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
252. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
253. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
254. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
255. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
256. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques

Round 9
257. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques
258. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
259. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
260. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
261. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
262. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
263. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
264. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
265. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
266.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
267.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
268.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
269.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
270.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
271.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
272.Roger's Pancreas & MiamiScreamingEagles - Calgary Stampeders -
273.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
274.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
275.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
276.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
277.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
278.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
279.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
280.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
281.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
282.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
283.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
284.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
285.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
286.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
287.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
288.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers

Round 10
289.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers
290.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
291.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
292.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
293.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
294.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
295.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
296.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
297.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
298.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
299.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
300.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
301.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
302.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
303.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
304.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
305.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
306.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
307.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
308.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
309.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
310.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
311.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
312. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
313. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
314. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
315. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
316. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
317. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
318. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
319. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
320. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques

Round 11
321. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques
322. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
323. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
324. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
325. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
326. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
327. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
328. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
329. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
330.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
331.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
332.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
333.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
334.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
335.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
336.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
337.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
338.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
339.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
340.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
341.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
342.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
343.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
344.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
345.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
346.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
347.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
348.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
349.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
350.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
351.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
352.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers

Round 12
353.pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers
354.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
355.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
356.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
357.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
358.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
359.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
360.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
361.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
362.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
363.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
364.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
365.VanIslander and Frightened Inmate#2 - Kingston RMC Paladins
366.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints -
367.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
368.McLovin - Montreal Maroons -
369.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
370.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
371.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
372.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
373.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
374.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
375.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
376. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
377. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
378. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
379. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers -
380. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
381. cottonking – Dallas Freeze
382. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
383. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
384. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques


Round 13
385. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques
386. nikjr - Lada Togliatti -
387. reckoning - Ottawa 67's -
388. Eagle Belfour – Detroit Falcons
389. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins -
390. McLovin - Montreal Maroons
391. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires -
392. NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex -
393. Hedberg – Victoria Salmon Kings
394.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles -
395.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks
396.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -
397.seventieslord - Regina Pats -
398.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings -
399.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets -
400.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts -
401.JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers
402.Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles - Calgary Stampeders -
403.Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire -
404.pitseleh – Nanaimo Clippers -
405.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons -
406.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
407.cottonking – Dallas Freeze -
408.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven -
409.Rick Middleton and Sturminator – Springfield Isotopes
410.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners -
411.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters -
412.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers -
413.Papshoes and Johnny O – St. Catharines Teepees
414.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
415.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters –
416.Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers














Trade:
ck receives EagleBelfour's 1 (4th overall) and 12th round pick
EB receives ck's 1st (23rd overall) and 3rd (87th)


The Minnesota Fighting Saints trade: 19th overall (1st round) and 110th overall (4th round)
The Victoria Salmon Kings trade: 9th overall (1st round) and their 8th round pick


To Clippers: Picks 23 and 68
To Falcons: Picks 20 and 84

From Springfield: 1st (25th - on the clock), 2nd (40th), 4th (104th)
From the Tee-Pees: 1st (29th), 2nd (36th), 3rd (93rd)

To Clippers: Picks 32, 33, and the Wanderers 12th round pick.
To Wanderers: Picks 45, 68, and the Clippers 6th round pick.

To Kingston: the 32nd pick and the Clippers' 12th.
To Nanaimo: Kingstons' 2nd and 6th round picks.

Calgary Stampeders Give: 47th, 82nd, and a 9th round pick
Kansas City Scouts For: 49th, 80th, and a 9th round pick

To Me and Nate:
2nd Round Pick (51)
3rd Round Pick (78)
7th Round Pick (206)

To Spit:
2nd Round Pick (57)
3rd Round Pick (72)
6th Round Pick (185)

St Louis trades the 55th and 247th overall selections to Montreal Wanderers for the 96th and 97th overall selections.

Great, I'm going to be picking between Nalyd and pappy all draft. :cry:

Guess I should be prepared to not get any of the players I want.

Great, I'm going to be picking between Nalyd and pappy all draft. :cry:

Guess I should be prepared to not get any of the players I want.

You should also be prepared to pick two GMs early because both of those guys tend to make their picks within minutes of the guy before!

... AND WE'RE OFF!

Didn't realize this thing was already rolling.

Love the 23rd spot ... anything low-20's is the dream draw for me!

Well, we had all the GMs so I figured I'd post things ASAP. The 29th as the day the clock starts is still firm in my eyes. This weekend is Easter and I'm pretty adamant about a weekend start so I can be around to update etc.

Well, we had all the GMs so I figured I'd post things ASAP. The 29th as the day the clock starts is still firm in my eyes. This weekend is Easter and I'm pretty adamant about a weekend start so I can be around to update etc.

Is anyone opposed to an Easter weekend start? With many teams having co-GMs, we should be able to get a decent turnout if we were to start the draft this coming weekend.

Or maybe it's just my impatient self trying to rationalize getting this thing going. :)

I guess we could always allow GMs to make picks but not start time limits until the 29th.

Is anyone opposed to an Easter weekend start? With many teams having co-GMs, we should be able to get a decent turnout if we were to start the draft this coming weekend.

Or maybe it's just my impatient self trying to rationalize getting this thing going. :)

Hey, I'm fine whenever:)

The Easter skip was put forth at the start. Didn't think we'd be up and at it this soon. I'll be around that weekend.

That's funny I was saying I had a good feeling I'd get a top 5 pick this time.

Not quite.

That's OK, I'm planning to follow the GBC tradition of building a tough as nails team that is hard to play against for Cominco Arena.

I guess we could always allow GMs to make picks but not start time limits until the 29th.

Good idea...or start time limits right after the Easter weekend. Lets get going :hockey:

wow, am i lucky. 3rd last time and now 2nd.

wow, am i lucky. 3rd last time and now 2nd.

That's really lucky. If my math is correct, you only had about a 1% chance of nabbing a top-3 pick in both two drafts.

That's really lucky. If my math is correct, you only had about a 1% chance of nabbing a top-3 pick in both two drafts.

he's a witch!

Oh, and starting ASAP is good for me. Why not start it now, but not enforce the time limits until whenever we originally had the date set? This way we can get a move on if everyone is ready, and if not, oh well...we'll just have to be patient until the actual start date. I think we did this last time, didn't we?

Oh, and starting ASAP is good for me. Why not start it now, but not enforce the time limits until whenever we originally had the date set? This way we can get a move on if everyone is ready, and if not, oh well...we'll just have to be patient until the actual start date. I think we did this last time, didn't we?

That's what I think. Draft can begin as of now, minus time limits.

Each roll of the dice or draft is an independent event uninfluenced by other independent events. Your chances of nabbing a top 3 pick are 3 in 28 or 32 regardless of how times you've done it before. :)

Unless you're a witch, at which point your chances improve greatly. Just sayin'.

Each roll of the dice or draft is an independent event uninfluenced by other independent events. Your chances of nabbing a top 3 pick are 3 in 28 or 32 regardless of how times you've done it before. :)

That's true after he's already picked up one top-3 pick. But looking at it from the perspective of what are the odds of getting two top-3 picks I believe it should be (3/28)*(3/32).

Sort of like the odds of getting three consecutive heads on three coin-flips is (1/2)*(1/2)*(1/2) or 1/8.

Be aware that the Detroit Falcons WILL trade their 4th overall pick. So if you want to start the draft ASAP, the draft might stop as soon as the number 4 position.

is that a newbie getting top pick? Maybe it won't go as it always does ;)

is that a newbie getting top pick? Maybe it won't go as it always does ;)
yeah, finally we will honored the greatest ever: Wade Belak

yeah, finally we will honored the greatest ever: Wade Belak

Only player in NHL history to get 30 goals, 40 assists and 100 points.

oh, we are NOT supposed to mention undrafted players

me bad

oh, we are NOT supposed to mention undrafted players
He's right. IMHO, Belak is a major gem. What 100 pt. scorer provides the physicality and toughness he does? Not to mention the versatility to play both offense and defense.

He's right. IMHO, Belak is a major gem. What 100 pt. scorer provides the physicality and toughness he does? Not to mention the versatility to play both offense and defense.

or neither

Be aware that the Detroit Falcons WILL trade their 4th overall pick. So if you want to start the draft ASAP, the draft might stop as soon as the number 4 position.

That was AS obvious as JFF picking Bobby Clarke at +- 25th in the last draft...

Sweet! Unless you're one of the 3 following teams, we're not interested in trades. In other words we're only trading with 30.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -
31.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters -
32.Lapierre Sports - Montreal Wanderers :)I forgot to say pm me if you are one of these 3 and interested in trading. :)

That was AS obvious as JFF picking Bobby Clarke at +- 25th in the last draft...

25th overall pick in each of the last two drafts .... and he went in the same spot. Nice to change it up this time and be picking somewhere different.

Depending on how the first 5 choices go, the 6th spot may be available in a trade, but I won't be looking to drop down past 9th.

If the 7th-9th picks would like to move up a few spots send me a PM.

he's a witch!

i prefer the term witch doctor.

So we starting tonight? JO keeps saying he cant wait as we could be starting?

So we starting tonight? JO keeps saying he cant wait as we could be starting?

We're not officially starting. People are allowed to start drafting though. So unofficially we're underway. No one is on a clock though and I believe Jungosi lives on the other side of the pond so I wouldn't expect a pick tonight.

I'll somewhat be part of this draft. e4.

I'll somewhat be part of this draft. e4.

So you won't be around at all?

We're not officially starting. People are allowed to start drafting though. So unofficially we're underway. No one is on a clock though and I believe Jungosi lives on the other side of the pond so I wouldn't expect a pick tonight.

I hope I won't get hatred PM's if I don't select before a couple of days ...

4. Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons
5. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins

I hope I won't get hatred PM's if I don't select before a couple of days ...
:pout: check your PM's

I hope I won't get hatred PM's if I don't select before a couple of days ...

I'm going to send you one preemptively in case I forget later. I hope you don't mind.

Take it easy guys, pick #4 is by far the hardest decision in the draft ;)

Take it easy guys, pick #4 is by far the hardest decision in the draft ;)
Yeah, it should be a slam dunk.

Advice: Trade down if it isn't a no brainer!

(The 3rd overall pick is the easiest in the entire draft, the 4th overall the next easiest.)

#5 through #10 are where thinks get tricky.

Advice: Trade down if it isn't a no brainer!


Absolutely. And for me it isn't a no brainer at all.

He's right. IMHO, Belak is a major gem. What 100 pt. scorer provides the physicality and toughness he does? Not to mention the versatility to play both offense and defense.

I guarantee you Belak will make a good TV personality next season... errrrrr someday.

I think the easiest pick in the entire draft is #2.

To me there are two guys you can reasonably take 1 or 2. Two only.

I've looked across my short list (who consist of roughly 725 players and coaches), and I'm confirming that I WILL indeed trade the #4 pick. I'm looking for a pick roughly between pick #7 and pick #22.

I'm not even looking to upgrade my 2nd or 3rd round pick; I'm rather looking to get a little more depth in the latter round. Send me a PM if you're interested.

Thank You!

Remember, Fissionfire is my co-GM. I made a formal announcement.

Get started when ready, I can pretty much never guarantee time for a live draft, but I can always be on multiple times a day. Unless I party like I did this weekend, but the dislocated finger is telling me not to.

I think the easiest pick in the entire draft is #2.

To me there are two guys you can reasonably take 1 or 2. Two only.

As someone who's picked 2, 3 and 4, I'd say 3 is easiest, but that's cause I rank the greatest of all time as 1a, 1b, 1c, 2nd and then 5th best.

Speaking of which, should be fun to pick mid-round.

Sweet set up.

Is anyone opposed to an Easter weekend start? With many teams having co-GMs, we should be able to get a decent turnout if we were to start the draft this coming weekend.

Or maybe it's just my impatient self trying to rationalize getting this thing going. :)

I guess we could always allow GMs to make picks but not start time limits until the 29th.

If the picking order and all rules are set, I see no reason why we can't start making picks now, but yeah, there should be no time limit until the 29th.

Ah sorry I lost track a bit , I did not realize the whole thing was about to start already.

So when I'm allowed to pick?

And I just send VI a team name , I think it should be fitting geographicly.

Ah sorry I lost track a bit , I did not realize the whole thing was about to start already.

So when I'm allowed to pick?

And I just send VI a team name , I think it should be fitting geographicly.

Pick whenever you want.

Ok , I think tomorrow at 2 pm eastern would be a good date to start this.

Ok , I think tomorrow at 2 pm eastern would be a good date to start this.Or you could pick now and get this going.

Or you could pick now and get this going.

I think it's better to have a fixed date so everyone sees that the drafting has begun. Or is everyboby so unpatient? ;)

I think it's better to have a fixed date so everyone sees that the drafting has begun. Or is everyboby so unpatient? ;)Well you can pick but theres no limit. So pick!
Than we can get this moving!

WE ARE ALL IMPATIENT;)

I think it's better to have a fixed date so everyone sees that the drafting has begun. Or is everyboby so unpatient? ;)

We're not doing time limits for a while anyways. It's up to you. :)

Uh I didn't know that xD

Ok the pick will be announced in a few minutes.

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=415&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=491563

With a move that shouldn't be to suprising to everyone the Quebec Nordiques select #4 BOBBY ORR

The best defenseman of all time and very likely the best player of all time , Bobby Orr revulutionized the way how the game is played. He is the only defenseman to ever win the Art Ross Trophy. His trophy case is one of the most impressive in hockey. His carreer was cut short by several serious knee injuries and forced him to retire in 1979. When Orr retired he was immidietly inducted into the Hall of Fame.

He scored 915 points in 657 regular season games and 92 points in 76 playoff games.

# Calder Memorial Trophy - 1967
# NHL First All-Star Team - 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975
# James Norris Trophy - 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975
# Art Ross Trophy - 1970, 1975
# Conn Smythe Trophy - 1970, 1972
# Hart Memorial Trophy - 1971, 1972
# Lester B. Pearson Award - 1975
# Canada Cup MVP - 1976

Records
* Most points in one NHL season by a defenseman (139; 1970-71).
* Most assists in one NHL season by a defenseman (102; 1970-71).
* Highest plus/minus in one NHL season (+124; 1970-71).
* Tied for most assists in one NHL game by a defenseman (6; tied with Babe Pratt, Pat Stapleton, Ron Stackhouse, Paul Coffey and Gary Suter).
* Held record for most assists in one NHL season from 1971 to 1981 (102; broken by Wayne Gretzky and also bettered by Mario Lemieux), this is still a record for a defenseman.
* Held record for most goals in one NHL season by a defenseman from 1971 to 1986 (37 in 1971, broke own record in 1975 with 46; broken in 1986 by Paul Coffey with 48).
*One of the players to score 100 assists in one season



To make matters even more interesting, Orr was the sport's most dominant player, arguably its perfect player, and he did from the blue line. By doing so Orr revolutionized the game of hockey. His slick passing and playmaking and his end to end rushes were unheard of by a defenseman. Only the very very best forwards would try a solo effort. Orr did it seemingly effortlessly, and so convincingly, therefore forever changing the hockey landscape.

<Joe Pelletier of www.greatesthockeylegends.com(great page guys :thumbu:)>

Some picks should just be made by default.

I actually thought about a guy that hasn't been picked yet. He was quite a playmaker during the 80's and 90's. He wore an unusual number.

I actually thought about a guy that hasn't been picked yet. He was quite a playmaker during the 80's and 90's. He wore an unusual number.Wonder who that is.

Wonder who that is.

Quite difficult with that few hints I gave.

http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image?provider_id=415&size=550x550_mb&ptp_photo_id=491563

With a move that shouldn't be to suprising to everyone the Quebec Nordiques select #4 BOBBY ORR

The best defenseman of all time and very likely the best player of all time , Bobby Orr revulutionized the way how the game is played. He is the only defenseman to ever win the Art Ross Trophy. His trophy case is one of the most impressive in hockey. His carreer was cut short by several serious knee injuries and forced him to retire in 1979. When Orr retired he was immidietly inducted into the Hall of Fame.

He scored 915 points in 657 regular season games and 92 points in 76 playoff games.

# Calder Memorial Trophy - 1967
# NHL First All-Star Team - 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975
# James Norris Trophy - 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975
# Art Ross Trophy - 1970, 1975
# Conn Smythe Trophy - 1970, 1972
# Hart Memorial Trophy - 1971, 1972
# Lester B. Pearson Award - 1975
# Canada Cup MVP - 1976

Records
* Most points in one NHL season by a defenseman (139; 1970-71).
* Most assists in one NHL season by a defenseman (102; 1970-71).
* Highest plus/minus in one NHL season (+124; 1970-71).
* Tied for most assists in one NHL game by a defenseman (6; tied with Babe Pratt, Pat Stapleton, Ron Stackhouse, Paul Coffey and Gary Suter).
* Held record for most assists in one NHL season from 1971 to 1981 (102; broken by Wayne Gretzky and also bettered by Mario Lemieux), this is still a record for a defenseman.
* Held record for most goals in one NHL season by a defenseman from 1971 to 1986 (37 in 1971, broke own record in 1975 with 46; broken in 1986 by Paul Coffey with 48).
*One of the players to score 100 assists in one season



To make matters even more interesting, Orr was the sport's most dominant player, arguably its perfect player, and he did from the blue line. By doing so Orr revolutionized the game of hockey. His slick passing and playmaking and his end to end rushes were unheard of by a defenseman. Only the very very best forwards would try a solo effort. Orr did it seemingly effortlessly, and so convincingly, therefore forever changing the hockey landscape.

<Joe Pelletier of www.greatesthockeylegends.com(great page guys :thumbu:)>

Easiest pick in the draft! I expect to get it again in the 10th edition :thumbu:

We don't need career stats for everyone drafted in the first round , it just looks better.

Do we really need to post career stats for Number Four?
I didn't know that he'd won only two Hart trophies.

ok, i have been waffling, but i guess i'll pick gretzky.

You MUST PM the GM after you once you have made your pick. Failure to do so will mean banishment by catapult and forfeiting your first round draft pick to Glace Bay....okay maybe not...but please do PM the next GM
:biglaugh:

ok, i have been waffling, but i guess i'll pick gretzky.

specify, or you get Brent by default.

specify, or you get Brent by default.
or some Polish league guy: Mariusz Gretzky

ok, i have been waffling, but i guess i'll pick gretzky.

It's good to mix it up once in a while. :)

It's good to mix it up once in a while. :)

i was hoping for orr, and i thought about going the same way as last time, but in the end i came to the same conclusion as you.

My 13th pick should be quite interesting. There are literally 10 guys I could be taking with that pick, and the only way to know who I'm taking is to know who's available.... after the top-5, just about anything can happen.

The Ottawa 67s select....

http://www.nickfruhling.com/blog/uploaded_images/redwingsguys/RedWings_GordieHowe.jpg

Gordie Howe

Let's now play Guess when EagleBelfour will Pick!

The over/under in Vegas is 2 days.

I take the over.

Cant we just pick the obvious player for him.

Ofcourse everyone knows im talking about Mr. 30+40 = 100.

The Ottawa 67s select....

http://www.nickfruhling.com/blog/uploaded_images/redwingsguys/RedWings_GordieHowe.jpg

Gordie Howe


Ms.Crabopple's long lost love.

Sorry guys, but I won't feel guilty if I take a day or two before making my selection/trading the pick. We were supposed to start the 29th and in the last two drafts, the selection list was up a good chunk of days before we start drafting.

Now, I get one day to make my strategy considering my position and we also changed from 28 to 32 teams, which again change my plans.

We still have 10 days before the clock start; I promess I won't use a week before making the selection, but I won't pick tonight, and I will take all tomorrow to try and trade my pick. In two days if I haven't traded yet, I will consider selecting.

Hope the GM's will understand :)

All in favour of banishment by catapult?

All in favour of banishment by catapult?

:thumbu:

I say if he doesn't pick by 5pm we rename his team the Detroit Don Cherrys

Just remember, aggressively pursue GMs, you will struggle to passively trade the pick.

Just remember, aggressively pursue GMs, you will struggle to passively trade the pick.

My head hurt.

Seriously, there's good chance that an agreement to a trade will be posted this morning. However, I was stupid enough to erase all the private message I had sent, so I don't have the proposal I sent to the GM's; I can't give those proposal to a third party so they can confirm for me. :cry:

I will be in here until around 7 to 8 AM eastern time. After that, I will only wake up around 6PM. I MIGHT just wake up in the middle of my night time just to look on the board to see if someone posted a trade ...

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I already prevent the GM's that the first one to post a trade in here is the one I will accept it.

Trade:
ck receives EagleBelfour's 1 (4th overall) and 12th round pick

EB receives ck's 1st (23rd overall) and 3rd (87th)

Dallas selects D Doug Harvey

Kingston RMC Paladins are up.

Trade:
ck receives EagleBelfour's 1 (4th overall) and 12

EB receives ck's 1st (23rd overall) and 3rd (87th)

Dallas selects D Doug Harvey

Kingston RMC Paladins are up.

I confirm and I say WOW!

... But if I hadn't traded the pick, Harvey would of been my selection. Still, you had the balls to select him ahead of you know who.

I love Harvey but wow, I'm shocked.

I think you just got yourself a heck of a deal, Eagle.

There are some bloody good players available at 87th overall, but by 350+ (an early 12th round pick) there are already a few coaches drafted. Maybe I should, but I don't think Doug Harvey is so much better than a mid-late 1st rounder that he justifies that kind of trade-off. cottonking, aggressively trading up didn't work out well for you in ATD#8, and I think this may be a worse trade than the one you worked with BM. We shall see.

Wow, I love me some Harvey, but WOW! Most shocking pick since I started following and participating.

But, given my experience trading for the 4th overall pick, I respect the sheer ballsiness of it.

We'll see how it plays out, but everything is a lot more interesting now.

That said, I just realized an exceedingly logical reason to pick Harvey over player to be named later...

edit: Except, it doesn't apply here...

Dallas selects D Doug Harvey

Kingston RMC Paladins are up.
:noway: Damn! We got a strategy and THIS development just throws a monkey wrench in it. Do we take the BPA or do we trade down a little to get our guy?

PM'd trade offers sent to JFF, monsterb and chaos.

It might take a little time to make a wise and UNEXPECTED move here. :sueme:

If NP calls it ballsy and I've added chaos to VI's day, then I've already won. :thumbu:
chaosrevolver and five other teams have been just PM'd. Hope they all at least reply, though it is first come, takes... in a hurry to move the pick.

I don't get the first trade of this draft. Was it simply an irrational impulsive move or a thought-through decision?

IF the move was made to get the favourite player, then why didn't my team at 5th overall receive any offers? It would have cost MUCH less than giving up a third rounder to get Harvey, who certainly would've been available at 5th overall, not requiring such overpayment to move up to 4th overall.

IF the move was to get the BPA, and Harvey is somehow truly believed to be the 4th best player ever, then the move makes some sense, though I'll love to hear the debate AFTER the next few picks have been made and open comparisons can be made. (We really should NOT talk about undrafted players).

chaosrevolver and five other teams have been just PM'd. Hope they all at least reply, though it is first come, takes... in a hurry to move the pick.

I don't get the first trade of this draft. Was it simply an irrational impulsive move or a thought-through decision?

IF the move was made to get the favourite player, then why didn't my team at 5th overall receive any offers? It would have cost MUCH less than giving up a third rounder to get Harvey, who certainly would've been available at 5th overall, not requiring such overpayment to move up to 4th overall.

IF the move was to get the BPA, and Harvey is somehow truly believed to be the 4th best player ever, then the move makes some sense, though I'll love to hear the debate AFTER the next few picks have been made and open comparisons can be made. (We really should NOT talk about undrafted players).
I don't understand the logic either but I expect CK wanted to get a personal favorite although he paid heavily. i considered going for #4 also but probably would have retraded it. I am now more interested in trading up to #6 or #7.

I don't understand the logic either but I expect CK wanted to get a personal favorite although he paid heavily. i considered going for #4 also but probably would have retraded it. I am now more interested in trading up to #6 or #7.I wanted a serious #1 D man, and EB was shopping the pick.

If EB would have drafted with his own, I would have made an offer for 5. Or 6 or whatever. It was a little bit impulsive, but I got my man. No worries.

It's better to take a player early than to never get him at all, because in then end you're trying to assemble the best team, not the best collection of talent.

no more "first come, first served"

i'm stepping out for the next 8 hours (yawn, bedtime here in south korea)

if a team i sent offers to wants to do it then PM me... i might have two or three to choose from

(hoping to hear back from my co-g.m. as well)

expect a trade or a pick to be announced around 7 pm eastern time today

I think you just got yourself a heck of a deal, Eagle.


Agreed. The Scouts toyed with the idea of trading up here but felt the price was just too high.

Wow! What a development. Not something I would have done, but then, I'm always conservative with my trades. I can't help but feel that the reason I'm the one making the trade is because I'm the noob that an experienced GM is trying to hustle!

The strategy in this thing is just mind-bottling! :) I have an idea of who I'm going to take, but they are just as likely to be taken as not taken, and I don't have a plan B! Last time I picked 19th (24th?) and decided I had better take the 6th best defenseman when I had the chance and managed to get the 8th-ish best goalie 20 picks later. My forwards suffered as a result. I swear if they all stood and faced the same way and you looked at them from the right angle they'd appear to be straight lines. :biglaugh:

This time around, 6 picks earlier, I could end up with THE best goalie, or maybe 4th best defenseman, or that elusive stud forward. I'm so torn! (sorry to ramble, I just love this draft) Is it wrong to just go for the BPA with your first 2-3 picks and then develop a team-building strategy based on who you take with those picks?

You can write me in as a sortof Co-Gm for the Montreal Wanderers, as me and LapierreSports sortof agreed to this.

Well, I didn't see that one coming. Usually the top four picks are predictable. Evidently ck has learned from his mistakes in the last draft.

This marks only the second time in ATD history that one of the top 4 picks wasn't used on one of the Big Four. In ATD4, Gordie Howe slipped to #5.

I'm possible looking to move down a few slots - mid teens if anyone wants to move up.

I'm possible looking to move down a few slots - mid teens if anyone wants to move up.

This marks only the second time in ATD history that one of the top 4 picks wasn't used on one of the Big Four. In ATD4, Gordie Howe slipped to #5.

That was a horrible pick he made at #4 too.

You can write me in as a sortof Co-Gm for the Montreal Wanderers, as me and LapierreSports sortof agreed to this.

Welcome aboard !

Which one? Bourque or Harvey?

Pretty sure he was referring to Bourque. Bourque would make a fine 4th picks if there were no such things as forwards or goalies.

the draft has started

we are not supposed to talk about undrafted players :rant:

it influences the dang draft!!!!

the draft has started

we are not supposed to talk about undrafted players :rant:

it influences the dang draft!!!!

Thanks for the reminder. Since I started the initials stuff for the HOH Top-100, I should have remembered this elemantal rule for the draft.

the draft has started

we are not supposed to talk about undrafted players :rant:

it influences the dang draft!!!!

It's what happens when we're all bored waiting for the next pick :D

Two teams were willing to do the offers I fielded but then I heard back from my team's co-g.m.:
Lemieux is too good to pass up
And so he is. The most talented hockey player in the history of the game who only scored 69 goals and 160 points the season he missed 24 games due to Hodgkin's lymphoma, garnering the Bill Masterton trophy for the effort.
http://hfboards.com/imagehosting/2144847e18bca99118.gif (http://hfboards.com/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=14606)
Mario "The Magnificent" Lemieux

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/olympics_winter_2002/news/2002/02/24/menshockey/8.jpg

"the most talented player I've ever seen" says Bobby Orr
Mario gives a team an average of two more goals a game in the regular season and the playoffs. Not only do opposing teams need to key their best against him but it also thereby opens up the ice for other players.

Conn Smythe Trophy - 1991, 1992
Hart Memorial Trophy - 1988, 1993, 1996
Art Ross Trophy - 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997
Lester B. Pearson Award - 1986, 1988, 1993, 1996
NHL First All-Star Team - 1988, 1989, 1993, 1996, 1997
NHL Second All-Star Team - 1986, 1987, 1992, 2001
NHL Plus/Minus Award - 1993
Calder Memorial Trophy - 1985
NHL All-Star Game MVP - 1985, 1988, 1990
1987 Canada Cup (championship)
2002 Winter Olympics (captain, gold medal)
2004 World Cup of Hockey (captain, championship)

Imagine what he could have done if he hadn't had health problems :amazed:

The Wanderers are looking to move up a bit, around the midround. PM either me or LapierreSports if not interested to pick in this area. Replies will wait for the draft to unfold, though.

He is a steal at # 5. Iwould have taken him #2.

the draft has started

we are not supposed to talk about undrafted players :rant:

it influences the dang draft!!!!

In the top 15, which has been done 8 times and pretty much has a consensus, I don't really think it matters.

In the top 15, which has been done 8 times and pretty much has a consensus, I don't really think it matters.

Probably not, but I think we still shouldn't talk about undraft players.

this draft has already shown a lack of consensus

I don't have a huge need to discuss the 1st round nor would I plan on it, but after the big 4, the next big 4 and the 8-10 after that will show no surprises and it's gonna come down to personal preference and its all the same cast of characters. No one picked in the 90s last draft will sneak to 20 as what I was getting at, so RB's range (xth-yth, though he wouldn't drop lower than zth) is pretty well established and unlikely to change

SEE WHAT I DID THERE :sarcasm:

I don't have a huge need to discuss the 1st round nor would I plan on it, but after the big 4, the next big 4 and the 8-10 after that will show no surprises and it's gonna come down to personal preference and its all the same cast of characters. No one picked in the 90s last draft will sneak to 20 as what I was getting at, so RB's range (xth-yth, though he wouldn't drop lower than zth) is pretty well established and unlikely to change

SEE WHAT I DID THERE :sarcasm:
oh... i see... sneaky

don't worry: the guy you want might drop to your draft position of 12th overall

If there is a God in heaven.

Damn damn damn

If there is a God in heaven.There isn't.

If there is a God in heaven.

There is only monkeys, I'm afraid.

There is only monkeys, I'm afraid.
Don't be stupid... they're: Dolphins !

How on earth can JohnFlyersFan draft now? It's way too early to take.....

How on earth can JohnFlyersFan draft now? It's way too early to take.....
it's never too early to take Wade Belak

How on earth can JohnFlyersFan draft now? It's way too early to take.....Trade down?

I think Doug Harvey is a great pick. You could argue that in terms of making his teammates (goalies, forwards and defensemen) more focused and overall better players, nobody was more effective than Doug Harvey.

I wouldn't take Harvey over Mario, but I also wouldn't question his ranking as the #2 defenceman of all time.

I also wouldn't question his ranking as the #2 defenceman of all time.
:pout: ... I'll get back to you about that.

I also wouldn't question his ranking as the #2 defenceman of all time.

I'm a Bruins fan, and I wouldn't question it either.

:pout: ... I'll get back to you about that.

Belak stopped wearing #2 years ago...

Belak stopped wearing #2 years ago...
Leaf fans will be crushed to be reminded of it.

I'm a Bruins fan, and I wouldn't question it either.

I have to agree too. I've flip-flopped quite a bit on the matter, but Harvey has begun to solidify that position.

I think I'm gonna go take a shower.

G'day.

IMO the two contenders for 2nd best are way to different to compare.

Belak stopped wearing #2 years ago...

And yet, he still is #2...

Another vote for Harvey as #2.

I have to agree too. I've flip-flopped quite a bit on the matter, but Harvey has begun to solidify that position.

As much as I've supported the case for the other #2 defenceman contender (I've drafted him enough times), the more I read about him and Harvey...I'm not quite ready to put Harvey ahead, but it's very very close.

I don't know why we have to mince words, why can't we just talk about Cory Cross if we want to?

Seriously though, Harvey's record is just more impressive. It's hard to say if you put them on the ice together who you would definately want to have, but Harvey I think proved more in his career.

I don't know why we have to mince words, why can't we just talk about Cory Cross if we want to?

Seriously though, Harvey's record is just more impressive. It's hard to say if you put them on the ice together who you would definately want to have, but Harvey I think proved more in his career.

I don't see how a 4 time MVP is lacking in proving his mettle...

As much as I've supported the case for the other #2 defenceman contender (I've drafted him enough times), the more I read about him and Harvey...I'm not quite ready to put Harvey ahead, but it's very very close.

i waffle on that a lot too. i tend to think of the other one as more of a franchise player though. maybe that's just b/c of their teams and teammates.

Harvey is a very interesting pick to say the least. Is this the lowest that Lemieux has been picked in the ATD?

Harvey is a very interesting pick to say the least. Is this the lowest that Lemieux has been picked in the ATD?

Yep. 7 time in fourth position, one time in 3rd position.

I think that the next pick is really the one that will set the tone of this draft... I can see about five or six guys that could go here.

I don't see how a 4 time MVP is lacking in proving his mettle...

I'll show you mettle!!!!!!

Honestly it's more just the long history of team success with Harvey on the blue line as arguably their best player.

The 6th pick is available, but I am not looking to drop past 10. Make your offers.

What is it with no one wanting their picks?

Sometimes I think people overthink this.

Not that I don't want my pick, but I have 2 players that I would be equally happy with. There are 2 other players that others may covet, and pay a premium for. I won't be holding the draft up for too long.

If you want to trade down to 25th and draft the toothless wonder again, I'll throw in a 15th rounder, day-old bag of Timbits and the rights to any change that may have fallen into Rick's couch.

If you want to trade down to 25th and draft the toothless wonder again, I'll throw in a 15th rounder, day-old bag of Timbits and the rights to any change that may have fallen into Rick's couch.

Just don't touch my stash of porn under the couch. That's both a warning and a recommendation.

Not that I don't want my pick, but I have 2 players that I would be equally happy with. There are 2 other players that others may covet, and pay a premium for. I won't be holding the draft up for too long.
Could be wrong but can't imagine anybody in the 7-10 position paying much of a premium to move up to #6. Anyways, there is probably no hurry as the #7 pick hasn't checked in for a few days & may not even be aware we have started.

Wowzers. Just look at all the action I missed, since last night.

Even though I'm just a co-GM in my first ATD I can't help but log in every time I get a free minute to see if anyone's been picked yet. I haven't been this excited since the 2005 draft lottery.

Even though I'm just a co-GM in my first ATD I can't help but log in every time I get a free minute to see if anyone's been picked yet. I haven't been this excited since the 2005 draft lottery.

I can't wait until Tuuka Rask tends goal for the Leafs.............wait..........:cry:

Sometimes I think people overthink this.
There's no "sometimes" and "I think" about it. I know that too many people overthink this. This is supposed to be a fun thing. If we were playing for keeps, and there was a trophy waiting at the end, I could understand spending more than five minutes researching my pick once it's my turn, or delaying the process by thinking about a trade when it's my turn. But it's for fun. So spending time deliberating a pick is, IMO, wasted time. Plus, there are 31 other teams waiting for me to make up my mind.

Sometimes I think people overthink this.

indeed

can only hope monster_bertuzzi checks in within the next couple days.

I can't wait until Tuuka Rask tends goal for the Leafs.............wait..........:cry:ZOMG undrafted players!There's no "sometimes" and "I think" about it. I know that too many people overthink this. This is supposed to be a fun thing. If we were playing for keeps, and there was a trophy waiting at the end, I could understand spending more than five minutes researching my pick once it's my turn, or delaying the process by thinking about a trade when it's my turn. But it's for fun. So spending time deliberating a pick is, IMO, wasted time. Plus, there are 31 other teams waiting for me to make up my mind.Agreed. There are so many players in the first 5 rounds that would be perfect on any team, it's silly to need to spend more than 10 minutes thinking.

Would restricting trades make the draft go faster?

Anyway, GBC, are you still at the Bentley Reunion?

The draft doesn't start until 9 days and 5 selection has already been made. What can you ask more?

... it's for fun. So spending time deliberating a pick is, IMO, wasted time.
You miss the point then: deliberating a pick IS the fun!

Comparing players, what they bring to a team, what other options there are and what it would mean to the direction of the team, considering when the next couple of picks are and the kind of players that are likely to go there, what team strengths to build around.

The first couple of rounds have a huge impact on the character of the team, on its strengths and gaps that will need to be filled. I assume many g.m.s enjoy thinking about the kind of team they want to build and so like to think about what choices best lead in that direction.

I understand some g.m .s might be quick to draft, draft, draft but I have known draft junkies in FHL leagues and I am not one myself. I love researching and thinking about the history of hockey. I wouldn't be here if this hadn't begun on the history of hockey board. It sure seems to me that a lot of g.m.s think a lot ("overthink") about players from different eras, what kind of player they were, their strengths and weaknesses, their relative merits. It does take a lot of thought.

Just to determine the BPA often takes time, and often there is only a small difference between the team you wanna build and the BPA who doesn't ideally fit that kind of team.

Moreover, I play chess. Thinking is half the fun. :wg:

I really enjoyed assembling the New York Raiders, building around a philosophy and a coaching style (forechecker, net crasher, shooter for each line plus open-ice hitting defensemen and nasty but talented blueliners). Yes, it took a long time to decide to draft that third star defenseman but I had to because he was the BPA at that position by far, same with a couple of star scoring wingers drafted late, guys who should have went much earlier, and were a steal even if not an ideal fit, not the core of the team, but too good to pass up. Struggling between one's vision and one's opportunities: the microcosm of life itself.

***big long rant about how he picks players that wanders towards existentialism in the second half***Don't think that the rest of us don't think ... I just do it before the draft when I'm building my lists.

Make a list of speedy wingers. A list of playmaker-centers. A list of puck-moving defensemen. A list of enforcer forwards who can still sorta play.

When it comes time to make my pick, it's just a matter of picking one of the names on top of the list.

"Do I want a forward or a defenseman this round?"
Eh ... forward.
Dallas *Team Name* selects Jon Tavares.
Epic fail.

Well firstly just for the record John can take as long as he wants, there's no time limit yet so I'm not coming down on him.

But on the other hand, it's hard to go wrong with anyone at this point. If you're juts making some ho hum who cares pick at 250 it'll really cost you, but now it's hard to screw things up.

"Hmm, do I want this generational talent or that one?"

You miss the point then: deliberating a pick IS the fun!

Comparing players, what they bring to a team, what other options there are and what it would mean to the direction of the team, considering when the next couple of picks are and the kind of players that are likely to go there, what team strengths to build around.

The first couple of rounds have a huge impact on the character of the team, on its strengths and gaps that will need to be filled. I assume many g.m.s enjoy thinking about the kind of team they want to build and so like to think about what choices best lead in that direction.

I understand some g.m .s might be quick to draft, draft, draft but I have known draft junkies in FHL leagues and I am not one myself. I love researching and thinking about the history of hockey. I wouldn't be here if this hadn't begun on the history of hockey board. It sure seems to me that a lot of g.m.s think a lot ("overthink") about players from different eras, what kind of player they were, their strengths and weaknesses, their relative merits. It does take a lot of thought.

Just to determine the BPA often takes time, and often there is only a small difference between the team you wanna build and the BPA who doesn't ideally fit that kind of team.

Moreover, I play chess. Thinking is half the fun. :wg:


I suppose this is where the Flyers' franchise and VanI have their biggest difference!
Thinking and deliberating the pick is not the fun. The fun starts when the playoffs start. The fun is puttin' the boots to whoever happens to be unfortunate enough to run into you in the playoffs! :yo:

I had connenction issues at work.

The Philadelphia Flyers are very pleased to select - D - Eddie Shore

IMO clearly the 2nd best defenseman to play the game.

A dominating physical presence, while also being a major offensive threat.

One of only three players in NHL history to win the Hart Trophy 4 or more times.

A dominating physical presence, while also being a major offensive threat
According to pnep's adjusted-to-era stats, Eddie Shore recorded 3 of the top-20 offensive seasons by defensemen (Orr had several as did one other defenseman).

One of only three players in NHL history to win the Hart Trophy 4 or more times.
He simply dominated the NHL.

Doug Harvey couldn't get a single Hart trophy in a 6-team NHL? Eight different players won the Hart during Harvey's career but never Harvey. This fact doesn't knock his ability as a defenseman but it does reflect a RELATIVE worth to a team: I'd rather have the four Hart d-man thank you very much.

I agree with those who have said Shore and Harvey are very different kinds of player so comparing them is difficult. I totally don't understand those who clearly think Harvey is the second best defenseman of all time.

Doug Harvey couldn't get a single Hart trophy in a 6-team NHL? Eight different players won the Hart during Harvey's career but never Harvey. This fact doesn't knock his ability as a defenseman but it does reflect a RELATIVE worth to a team: I'd rather have the four Hart d-man thank you very much.

I've mentioned it before, but you have to consider the differences in Hart voting between the eras. During Shore's time you'd see one or two defensemen amongst the top-3 in Hart voting year in and year out, but by the 50's it happened much less frequently. You have to think that the emergence of the Norris had an impact on that.

I totally don't understand those who clearly think Harvey is the second best defenseman of all time.

You can claim that either Harvey or Shore are the 2nd best ever, but no one in their right mind can say one of them as a ''clear'' advantage over the other.

Anyway, nice selection JJF.

First time in 9 drafts that three defenseman are taken in the top-6. As incredible as it sound, Eddie Shore never been selected as high before.

Good pick, although that would not be the plater that I would have taken.

Good pick, although that would not be the plater that I would have taken.

For a guy that took Bobby Clarke in the last two drafts, I'm far from surprised that he took Eddie Shore.

Interesting and good pick with Shore. A couple GMs are going to be surprised with what falls in their lap in the next two or three picks.

For a guy that took Bobby Clarke in the last two drafts, I'm far from surprised that he took Eddie Shore.

It was between Shore and one other, that i'll mention after he is selected. I would have been equally happy with either. Ended up taking Shore, because of the lack of truly super-elite defenseman.

Oh come on! We want to pick!!! ;)

Oh come on! We want to pick!!! ;)
MonsterB hasb't been on for a few days & we are into Easter weekend so you may have to wait.

I'd love to see an Eddie Shore's Flyers against 67's Gordie Howe match-up (both in the René Lecavalier division). That's a lot of physicality and superstar power in a division that already has Lada's Gretzky.

monster_bertuzzi's Millionaires drafts next and will be the first player selected in the Jim Robson division.

A lot of defensemen picked early on it seems

A lot of defensemen picked early on it seems
Yep & 3 super-elite players they are but there are still many great defensemen out there that can anchor your defense. Your first pick should be the BPA regardless of position and that is my philosophy. Harvey before Lemieux makes no sense & Shore before ? also makes no sense. Only my opinion.

Yep & 3 super-elite players they are but there are still many great defensemen out there that can anchor your defense. Your first pick should be the BPA regardless of position and that is my philosophy. Harvey before Lemieux makes no sense & Shore before ? also makes no sense. Only my opinion.

I certainly agree with the bolded statement. I also think Shore is every bit the equal of the next 3 players.

Also I do think positions make a difference. Personally I'm not a big fan of building a team around a winger. I would much prefer to have my best player be a goalie, defenseman or a center.

MonsterB hasb't been on for a few days & we are into Easter weekend so you may have to wait.

Yeah, the draft should start to fly after his pick.

I certainly agree with the bolded statement. I also think Shore is every bit the equal of the next 3 players.

Also I do think positions make a difference. Personally I'm not a big fan of building a team around a winger. I would much prefer to have my best player be a goalie, defenseman or a center.
Yes, my statement was a bit strong about Shore. he certainly is a worthy # 6 pick. After all that is where I ranked him in the top 100. As far as position, i don't give a damn what they play, I pick the best available. I can fill in the lineup with inferior players later.I would be very happy to build a team around RW Howe if I ever got a draw where he was available. Centre is the position I would worry about the least as there are so many good one's out there. Too me a great wing is more valuable.

Millionares pick up goaltender Patrick Roy.

Millionares pick up goaltender Patrick Roy.

Another surprising pick! Wow, I think position between 7 and 9 will receive an unexpected gifts!

Millionares pick up goaltender Patrick Roy.

Nice to see him get taken 1st again, with you and Hedberg back he'll get a little more support. How many votes did he get when we polled the ATD7 GMs about the best goaltender? It was like 2 or 3 I think.

Another surprising pick! Wow, I think position between 7 and 9 will receive an unexpected gifts!
Wow, I agree. This will win the picked too early contest easily. I am interested in trading up. Anybody in the 8-10 range interested?

Wow I love me some Roy, but that's awful early for a goaltender I'd say.

Mind you with 32 teams it's going to be a battle to get an elite starter.

Wow, I agree. This will win the picked too early contest easily. I am interested in trading up. Anybody in the 8-10 range interested?

That was inevitable. :)

I have to agree though. Even though we are team building and not necessarily going BPA, I think VanI and FI#2 (5) and BlueBleeder (10) are very lucky for who have (will) fall into their laps.

Millionares pick up goaltender Patrick Roy.I don't like the trend this could potentially spark.

I don't like the trend this could potentially spark.

If your strategy was to pick a goaltender yes, if not, I would be happy to see this.

If your strategy was to pick a goaltender yes, if not, I would be happy to see this.I don't think anyone wants to be the guy who shows up to a showdown with a six shooter, while seven other guys are packing shot guns. This is the predicament I find myself in, should several unnamed posters follow suit.

The Montreal Sarasaurusrex are extremely proud and surprised to be able to select Left Winger..Bobby "The Golden Jet" Hull.

http://www.advancedtaxidermy.com/images/pic_bobby_hull_large-1.jpg


Few of the game's superstars could match the physical talents of Bobby Hull. The Golden Jet combined speed, a feared slapshot and a powerful physique to rise to the elite of the NHL in the 1960s. Depending on the source, his shot was timed at approximately 120 miles per hour. His powerful legs never stopped moving and his muscular upper body enabled him to handle the rough side of the game. Hull was a legend in Chicago and later enjoyed success in the World Hockey Association and on the international stage while representing Canada.

Hull grew up on a farm near Belleville, Ontario, two hours east of Toronto. From a young age it was apparent that his raw talent was exceptional. He moved rapidly through the minor hockey system and was signed by the Chicago Black Hawks organization. As a 15-year-old, he played a handful of games with the Galt Black Hawks of the OHA and didn't look out of place.

The Hawks next moved Hull up to the main junior affiliate, the OHA's St. Catharines Teepees. During his second year, in 1956-57, Hull scored 16 points in 13 playoff matches for the Garden City team. A few months later, he put two pucks past New York Rangers goalie Gump Worsley in a pre-season game to launch one of the greatest of NHL careers.

Hull's highly anticipated regular-season debut came in 1957-58. He didn't disappoint the Hawks' fans and brass and turned in a fine 47-point effort that year to finish runner-up to Toronto's Frank Mahovlich in the Calder Trophy voting at the end of the season. Hull improved by three points in his sophomore year before breaking out in 1959-60 with a league-high 39 goals and 81 points. Teamed with Bill Hay and Murray Balfour on the Million Dollar Line, Hull won the Art Ross Trophy and earned a place on the NHL First All-Star Team.

More important, the young star helped resurrect the fortunes of a struggling franchise. Prior to his arrival, Chicago had missed the playoffs 11 out of the previous 12 seasons. The atmosphere around the organization was dismal and the once proud fans stayed away in droves. Hull's arrival along with Stan Mikita helped rekindle the spark within the franchise and raised the team's profile among the sports fans of the Windy City.

Together with teammate Mikita, Hull developed the curved hockey stick, which gave the shooter more velocity and caused the puck to move differently at times. And what goalies throughout the league didn't need was the most feared shot in the NHL behaving like a curve ball.

The 1960-61 regular season was somewhat of a letdown for Hull individually, but in the post-season he scored 14 points in 12 games as Chicago won the Stanley Cup for the first time since 1938. The next year he became the third player in league history to score 50 goals in a season.

In 1964-65, despite missing nine games due to injury, the Golden Jet scored 39 goals and helped Chicago reach the Stanley Cup finals, where they lost out to Montreal. At season's end he was awarded the Hart and Lady Byng trophies. The following season he set an NHL record with 54 goals and repeated as the Hart Trophy winner.

In 1966-67, Hull's 52 goals helped Chicago win its first regular-season championship since coach Pete Muldoon cursed the team after he was fired in 1938. Their march to the Stanley Cup was cut short in the semifinals by the Toronto Maple Leafs under Punch Imlach.

Hull scored 44 goals during the first expansion season, then followed up with a record-breaking performance in 1968-69. His 58 goals set a single-season record that fans thought would last many years. As it turned out, Boston's Phil Esposito hit the back of the net 76 times two years later. In January 1970, Hull was named by the Associated Press as the top NHL player of the 1960s.

While Esposito was leading the Bruins through a magical regular season in 1970-71, the Hawks were led by Hull's 44 goals and captured the West Division crown. On February 14, 1971, he scored twice against the Vancouver Canucks to surpass Maurice Richard for second place on the NHL's all-time goal-scoring list. Hull then embarked on the most productive post-season of his career with 11 goals and 25 points in 18 games as Chicago came within one period of winning the Stanley Cup. Leading 2-1 late in the second period of game seven, the Hawks couldn't hold the lead and lost 3-2 in front of a disappointed home crowd. One of the indelible images of this final game was the Habs' lanky netminder, Ken Dryden, using his long reach to foil a sure goal by Hull.

In 1971-72, Hull hit the 50-goal mark for the fifth time in his career, playing with Pit Martin and Chico Maki. At this stage of his career, many observers noted that he was playing his most well-rounded hockey ever. Ironically, this complete version of Bobby Hull was the last NHL fans would see of him for several years.

In February 1972, an ominous event in the form of the World Hockey Association General Player Draft took place. The Winnipeg Jets selected Hull and a few months later shocked the hockey world by signing him to the first $1 million contract in hockey history.

This turn of events was the major coup needed by the WHA to legitimize itself. The NHL was bitter and exacted revenge on the Golden Jet by blocking his participation on behalf of Canada in the 1972 Summit Series versus the Soviets. When Hull left the NHL, his 604 goals ranked him second in league history to Gordie Howe.

Overall, Hull's play in the Manitoba capital helped the Jets become a major success in the new league, but the adjustment took its toll as he developed ulcers in response to the stress of playing several games on consecutive nights under conditions that were quite poor compared to the NHL.

Hull soon formed one of the top forward lines anywhere in the world with Swedes Anders Hedberg and Ulf Nilsson. The 1974-75 season was particularly special as he finally had a chance to compete against the Soviets in the second Canada-USSR series at the start of the year. He also went on to score 77 goals for Winnipeg in the regular season to establish a new record for a professional league. Hull's play was an integral part of the Jets' Avco Cup wins in 1976, 1978 and 1979. In 1973 and 1975 he was chosen the most valuable player in the WHA.

Prior to the 1976-77 WHA season, Hull was allowed to compete for his country in the inaugural Canada Cup tournament. He was Canada's top-scoring forward and consistently dished out punishing yet clean bodychecks. If this tournament was the highlight of Bobby Orr's career, it was also unquestionably Hull's one chance to shine in a competition featuring the top players from around the globe.

Following the NHL/WHA merger in 1979, Hull remained with the Jets for 18 games in the 1979-80 season before a trade brought him to the Hartford Whalers to play alongside Gordie Howe. He retired after that season with 610 goals in 1,063 regular-season games. Hull took his place in the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1983 along with old teammate Stan Mikita. Following his career, he worked full-time in the cattle ranching business, a field in which he had a lifetime of experience.

http://www.hockeyforum.com/photopost/data/2/1961_BOBBY_HULL_WITH_STANLEY_CUP.bmp

Awards and Accomplishments:
Art Ross Trophy (1960, 1962, 1966)
First All-Star Team Left Wing (1960, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972)
Hart Memorial Trophy (1965, 1966)
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (1965)
Lester Patrick Trophy (1969)
Second All-Star Team Left Wing (1963, 1971)
One Stanley Cup (1961)
5 50+ Goal Seasons (1962, 1966, 1967, 1969, 1972)
4 90+ Point Seasons (1966, 1969, 1971, 1972)


http://nhl.speedera.net/photos/h/hull_bobby032562.jpg

Statistics:
- 1063 Career NHL Regular Season Games
- 1170 NHL Regular Season Points (610 Goals and 560 Assists)
- 119 Career Playoff Games
- 129 Career Playoff Points (62 Goals and 67 Assists)
- 9 Points (7 Goals and 2 Assists) in 8 Games at the 1974 Summit Series
- 8 Points (5 Goals and 3 Assists) in 7 games at the 1977 Canada Cup
- 411 Career WHA Regular Season Games
- 638 WHA Regular Season Points (303 Goals and 335 Assists)
- 60 WHA Playoff Games
- 80 WHA Playoff Points (43 Goals and 37 Assists)

http://www.oldtimershockey.com/images/players/hull_hall.jpg

***********Ill PM the Next GM Right Now***********

Sigh. Nobody would trade with me. Incredible player to get a #8. Oh well, # 21 will still garner me a franchise player,

Sigh. Nobody would trade with me. Incredible player to get a #8. Oh well, # 21 will still garner me a franchise player,Sorry man it was just too good to pass up. Usually a top-6 pick. 5th in last draft. I had to take him.

Sorry man it was just too good to pass up. Usually a top-6 pick. 5th in last draft. I had to take him.
IMO, the steal of the draft.

IMO, the steal of the draft.Thus far, will change. But yeah im slightly surprised he was still available.

And I thought the first round was gonna be boring. :silly:

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.Oh no! So sorry for your loss man. My condolences to yourself and your family.

I have some bad news. My father died today.
My condolences. My father is 78 and suffering from a car accident. I feel your loss. Take care.

I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.
MCLovin' and wisent have been just PM'd, each having shown interest in co-g.m.ing.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.Sorry to hear.

By the way, Hedberg has been Pm'ed.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

I'm so sorry to hear that Hockey Outsider. My condolences.

great you started the draft early ;)


i am on medical leave from work so i won't be on the comp as much till im cured;)


i am having my computer fixed so it in the shop for a day or 2 more.

Ill check my comp at my gfs every evening this time.

or call me im home painting ( not right now i am at my gfs)

902-849-9168 (paul)

It's a tragic way for the nicest guy and defending champion to be forced out.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

Very sorry to hear of your loss. My father died when I was in college, surround yourself with friends and family.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

sorry to hear of your loss. my sincerest condolences.

I kept watching and waiting for Hull to keep slipping.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

i'm so sorry about that HO. my condolences.

If we get a pick this weekend, please pm me as papershoes will be out of town. Please pm me anytime for trades. :)

IMO, the steal of the draft.

How surprising of you to say that. Well, one certainty of all draft will not apply here, pappy will not get Hull.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

I'm very sorry to hear that. My sincere and deepest condolences. I hope the best for your family and you.

MCLovin' and wisent have been just PM'd, each having shown interest in co-g.m.ing.

I know for a fact that MXD didn't wanted a tema because he was supposed to move, but now he won't, so he might me another candidate, even though for now he's Co-GM with Lapierre.

I know for a fact that MXD didn't wanted a tema because he was supposed to move, but now he won't, so he might me another candidate, even though for now he's Co-GM with Lapierre.
And a certain veteran g.m. is willing to step in if wisent and McLovin' can't.

We're set either way.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.
Sorry to hear that, brother. I'll miss having you around as a friend/fellow GM/rival/that one guy who I absolutely want to beat in a playoff series, but as I said earlier today, this thing is just for fun, and there are a lot of things more important than this. Prayers go out to the family of HF's finest.

Incidentally, I'd request that HO's replacement choose a different name. As great of an organization as the Canadiens are in real life, in the ATD, only one GM is worthy of running the Habs.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

Wow. I can't even imagine how you must be feeling. My heart goes out to you and your family.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.

Wow, that's so sad to hear, man. I wish you and your the family the best. VanIslander PMed me, and I'd feel honored to take over your team, if that's okay with everybody.

Wow, that's so sad to hear, man. I wish you and your the family the best. VanIslander PMed me, and I'd feel honored to take over your team, if that's okay with everybody.

It's like taking the job of Frank Selke after the 1960 Stanley Cup final. You better be up to the task.

Take 'er easy, HO. You will be missed.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.
My sincerest condolences.

How surprising of you to say that. Well, one certainty of all draft will not apply here, pappy will not get Hull.
5th draft and my second one without Hull. Every time I had him was via trade. PNEP wouldn't trade in ATD # 7. Made a few trade offers here but nothing worked out. Thought I might have had a chance when Roy went at #7. Beware, no favors this draft. In ATD 8, I made a trade to help someone fill a line.

Can hardly wait now for pick #21. Some great players should still be available.

To Hockey Outsider: my condolences. In all of my experience with you as a rival GM and giving me some advice for the MLD, you have been a total class act.
I suggest that we rename the trophy for the GM of the year to the Hockey Outsider Sr. Memorial Award.

Sincere condoleances HO...

I know for a fact that MXD didn't wanted a tema because he was supposed to move, but now he won't, so he might me another candidate, even though for now he's Co-GM with Lapierre.

It could have been a idea, but I cannot do this now.

I suggest that we rename the trophy for the GM of the year to the Hockey Outsider Sr. Memorial Award.
A thoughtful idea.

We've never had a G.M. of the year award. Maybe we can vote for one when we do regualr season standings. It could to the g.m. not necessarily with the best team (playoffs will determine that) but the best display of drafting skill, discussion, camaraderie and sportsmanship.

I have some bad news. My father died today. I would like somebody to take over my team permanently (feel free to change the name). Take care everybody, I will be back in a few weeks.
I am deeply sorry to hear that. Please know that you and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.

Very sorry to hear about your loss HO.

My sincerest condolences to Hockey Outsider , very sad thing to happen.

Deepy sorry to hear about your loss, Hockey Outsider. We'll all miss you but now it is time to take care of yourself and your family.

My deepest sympathies, HO. Be well, there will always be a spot for you when you return.

Very sorry to hear that HO, you will be missed.

Where's Hedberg? He was connected 15 minutes ago. I hope he know he's up and that he's researching his pick.

Where's Hedberg? He was connected 15 minutes ago. I hope he know he's up and that he's researching his pick.
I hope Chaos sent him a PM.

Where's Hedberg? He was connected 15 minutes ago. I hope he know he's up and that he's researching his pick.
I saw him on the ATD board a few minutes ago. So he is around. He got a PM so he knows he's up (dunno if chaos sent him one but I did 10 hours ago).

No hurry.

I would say this is the hardest pick to make so far.

I saw him on the ATD board a few minutes ago. So he is around. He got a PM so he knows he's up.

No hurry.

I would say this is the hardest pick to make so far.

Perhaps the hardest, but I'm trying to find a way how he could go wrong with this one and I can't.

Opps! I Pm'd him as well. Sorry Hedberg, some of us are a little antsy:)

...I'm trying to find a way how he could go wrong with this one and I can't.
I thought that about 4th overall.;)

But seriously, ANY of the next 10-20 expected-to-go players could be a good choice to build a team around. While one may be better than another, the drop off isn't so great that BPA trumps team strategy.

Let's keep the interesting first round going!

I saw him on the ATD board a few minutes ago. So he is around. He got a PM so he knows he's up (dunno if chaos sent him one but I did 10 hours ago).

No hurry.

I would say this is the hardest pick to make so far.I typed in 2 different posts that I did. Im not that irresponsible;)

I typed in 2 different posts that I did. Im not that irresponsible;)
Good man. I don't see this pick as being all that difficult to decide on. maybe he is trying to negotiate a trade.

Drafting Scarlett Johansson would probably qualify is "going wrong" with this one.

Then again, I would argue with that assesment :P

Well, Hedberg did draft Roy in three straight drafts. So maybe he didn't really think of any alternatives. :D

He could go C, W, G or even D ... and it be a decent pick.

Though the BPA is a C imo.

I know I'm up. Thanks for all the PM's

I'm working on a trade at the moment which is why I haven't posted a pick yet...

maybe he is trying to negotiate a trade.
Wise old man... wait! maybe pappyline is the guy still trying to move up.

At this point, two C'S, a RW and a G could be considered the BPA.

At this point, two C'S, a RW and a G could be considered the BPA.You're right except for the 2nd C, the RW and the G.

I think it should only be between 2 players. And theres a goalie that shouldve gone ahead of Roy imo so he might go with him.

I know I'm up. Thanks for all the PM's

I'm working on a trade at the moment which is why I haven't posted a pick yet...

Don't mind us. We've all got ants in our pants.

Wise old man... wait! maybe pappyline is the guy still trying to move up.
Nope my guy is gone. Won't be initiating any trades from here on in but will be reacting to trade proposals. There is always a player out there that I am happy with.

I am looking to draft in the next 5 picks, any interest in pick #32 and #33 ?

My deepest condolences HO.

And also, jeez louise, I go away for one week, and you guys have already started!! bleh, some pretty surprising picks, what happened to the first round being the dullest of the draft ck??!!??? :) :D

My family and I sincerely appreciate the kind words, everyone. Have fun and I'll see you all in a few weeks.

sorry to hear about your dads passing HO

Our prayers go out to your family

Bye HO, my condolences and love go to you and your family

Nope my guy is gone. Won't be initiating any trades from here on in but will be reacting to trade proposals. There is always a player out there that I am happy with.Who took him again?

I'd request that HO's replacement choose a different name. As great of an organization as the Canadiens are in real life, in the ATD, only one GM is worthy of running the Habs.
I agree totally.

I PM'd McLovin' about it and he'll choose a new name.

Who took him again?

you did. pappyline is a longtime hawks fan who saw many of the greatest from the original 6 play.

you did. pappyline is a longtime hawks fan who saw many of the greatest from the original 6 play.lol I know I was just trying to rattle him up;)

I guess I'll take over for HO, and as an homage, I'll keep the team in Montreal, but as the Maroons, if that's okay with everyone.

I guess I'll take over for HO, and as an homage, I'll keep the team in Montreal, but as the Maroons, if that's okay with everyone.

Hey, the game's on ;)

I guess I'll take over for HO, and as an homage, I'll keep the team in Montreal, but as the Maroons, if that's okay with everyone.

Sound fine to me.

Trade Announcement!

The Minnesota Fighting Saints trade: 19th overall (1st round) and 110th overall (4th round)
The Victoria Salmon Kings trade: 9th overall (1st round) and their 8th round pick

Awaiting confirmation.

You're right except for the 2nd C, the RW and the G.

The Minnesota Fighting Saints agree with this assessment. :D

The Minnesota Fighting Saints agree with this assessment. :D

I know who would I take, but I wouldn't be surprised if the other C is named. However, I think NP will take the good one :)

Trade Announcement!

The Minnesota Fighting Saints trade: 19th overall (1st round) and 110th overall (4th round)
The Victoria Salmon Kings trade: 9th overall (1st round) and their 8th round pick

Awaiting confirmation.I'm pretty sure I know what's about to happen, but I'd like everyone's opinion on the trade of picks -- independent of which players get taken at 9 and 19 and whatever.

I traded up 19 slots and dropped a 3 into a 12 to do it.
Someone else just traded up half as many slots (and later in the draft) and dropped a 4 into an 8 to do it.

Thoughts on just that part?

PS: The Minnesota Fighting Saints are about to make a giant splash.