Atd Hof

Diving Pokecheck*
04-04-2008, 05:00 PM
I was thinking about it being the 10th anniversary of the ATD soon, and was wondering about a way to commemorate the history of this HFBoards institution.

A Hall of Fame honoring the elite GM's of this project, voted in by their peers.

ATD Tournament of Champions
What is the greatest ATD team ever assembled? We will find out by holding a tournament of the previous champions to determine the all-time elite squad.

pitseleh
04-04-2008, 05:10 PM
BM67 should be the first person inducted. Leaf Lander is right up there too. Hockey Outsider for his dominance since the playoff format was introduced. Vets like JFF, GBC, FI#2, Spitfire etc. (I know I'm leaving a ton out) do too.

Greatest ATD team is a little unfair because those teams that were assembled in 12-18 team drafts will invariably be better than the teams assembled now. It's like comparing the '57 Habs to the '07 Ducks.

ck26
04-04-2008, 05:12 PM
Voting for a "best GM" seems a bit silly to me ... if you want to rig up a points / standings system (ie: 10 points for winning, 5 for going to the finals, etc), that might be interesting.

Teams from the 1st draft will smoke those from the 9th. Knowledge about the more obscure historical players was totally different. Here's a random team from ATD1 for reference:

Detroit Red Wings:
Esposito, Mikita, Sakic, Oates
Neely, Selanne, Shanahan, Kariya
Orr, Pilote, Vasiliev, Lapointe, Konstantinov, Suter

pappyline
04-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Don't know if having a vote would be meaningful but it might be fun looking back at some of those earlier drafts. Maybe even do playoffs for each of the early drafts (don't think we started that until # 7). Even though we have more teams now, I think the quality is improving as participants gain more knowledge & have the previous drafts as a reference. I agree that the guys like BM67 & the other originals deserve a pat on the back.

Spitfire11
04-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Voting for a "best GM" seems a bit silly to me ... if you want to rig up a points / standings system (ie: 10 points for winning, 5 for going to the finals, etc), that might be interesting.

Teams from the 1st draft will smoke those from the 9th. Knowledge about the more obscure historical players was totally different. Here's a random team from ATD1 for reference:

Detroit Red Wings:
Esposito, Mikita, Sakic, Oates
Neely, Selanne, Shanahan, Kariya
Orr, Pilote, Vasiliev, Lapointe, Konstantinov, Suter

Damn, that GM must have been good :D

Playoffs with those old drafts wouldn't mean much since the views of how to compare eras has changed so much throughout the 9 drafts.

They've certaintly been fun though, can't believe it's been 5 years since the first one.

raleh
04-04-2008, 05:44 PM
For me it would be BM67 and Leaf Lander as "builders". These guys have invested way more time into the draft than anyone else. BM has run every draft up until now while always icing competitive teams and LL has done bio pages and alphabetical listings which have made life a lot easier for us.

Pappy and Wisent as coaches. These two gms have taught me more about hockey history than any book I've ever read. Wisent has iced teams where I had to google half the players on it!

Pitseleh and Hockey Outsider as contestants. These two have constantly put together teams that were the class of the draft. I think the worst HO has done is second.

And as far as I'm concerned GBC is the Bobby Orr/Bobby Clarke of the ATD. He changed the way the draft was done; if I'm not mistaken ATD6 was the first time we had the playoff and GBC was one of the biggest advocates for making it a competition. Love him or hate him, I think everyone can agree that he's one of the most competitive guys here and he and his teams are absolutely no fun to play against...except for maybe his ATD7 entry that got beat up by Murphy's Oilers ;)

VanIslander
04-04-2008, 08:08 PM
more navel gazing :shakehead

seriously... we should think of ways of making the ATD more about the players and the history of the game: there's already too much look backward at past ATDs, who was picked where, even averages calculated!

the MLD is ten times more interesting in actually being about the history of the game, it seems to be the only place to learn anything new, to hear about lines and developments and aspects of players from the past

or maybe I'm just getting fed up with what the ATD represents and where it's (not) going

Hawkman
04-04-2008, 10:45 PM
more navel gazing :shakehead seriously... we should think of ways of making the ATD more about the players and the history of the game: there's already too much look backward at past ATDs, who was picked where, even averages calculated! the MLD is ten times more interesting in actually being about the history of the game, it seems to be the only place to learn anything new, to hear about lines and developments and aspects of players from the past. or maybe I'm just getting fed up with what the ATD represents and where it's (not) goingAgreed. Are we here to honor the history of the game or each other? :)

Leaf Lander
04-04-2008, 10:46 PM
lets not and say we did


we are now ALL Time Draft Hall of Famers

congrats:D

Hawkman
04-04-2008, 10:54 PM
lets not and say we did. we are now ALL Time Draft Hall of Famers. congrats:DThanks! You too! :)

Leaf Lander
04-04-2008, 11:05 PM
we should had inductions for Best Guy !!; Best Heal: Best Masked Marader; Best Heavy Weight; Best Light Weight

any other ideas

God Bless Canada
04-04-2008, 11:48 PM
I don't see the need for it. An HF Boards History of Hockey HOF? That might be a better idea. You want to honour players, that's how you do it.

We wouldn't be here if it weren't for guys like BM and LL starting this up, and JFF, Evil Sather and Spit getting involved from the start.

I didn't change nothing. I was a big proponent for the playoff format from the moment I joined, but there had been discussion of it from the start. At least that's what Spit said. What happened when I joined, was the draft started to move faster, and more old-time guys got the respect they deserved. That's not because I joined. I didn't create that change, although I like to think I played a role. That's also when pappy, reck and raleh joined, and HO and Murphy rejoined the draft. It also didn't hurt that the previous draft took three months, with 16 GMs. Could you guys imagine if this draft took six months? Some of us would go ballistic.

Sturminator
04-05-2008, 02:05 AM
In the case of best GMs, I think the proof is in the pudding.

Nothing wrong with giving a pat on the back to the glorious founders of this funny little cult, though.

FissionFire
04-05-2008, 02:26 AM
I nominate the Donair City Loch Ness Monsters for best ATD name ever.

Sens Rule
04-05-2008, 04:31 AM
I nominate the Donair City Loch Ness Monsters for best ATD name ever.

Or the worst name

Transplanted Caper
04-05-2008, 06:48 AM
Or the worst name

Smite!


Uncle Buck knows what he's talking aboot Willis.

MXD
04-05-2008, 08:16 AM
Best name = Brooklyn Yawning Otters.

MXD
04-19-2008, 04:24 PM
There might be other guys in this situation...

But I'd like to nominate Jungosi. Winning at your 1st draft, while we're now in the 9th edition, is something we won't see really often anymore, even in an MLD. Nevermind he was a co-GM : he was directly responsible for two of our best three picks. (the other being George McNamara that I was given on a silver platter, litteraly).

Pwnasaurus
04-20-2008, 11:40 PM
I would much prefer an ATD HOF for the players, ie) which players have won the most Dunnell Cups, etc.

Diving Pokecheck*
04-20-2008, 11:44 PM
I would much prefer an ATD HOF for the players, ie) which players have won the most Dunnell Cups, etc.
good idea.
who has?

Pwnasaurus
04-20-2008, 11:47 PM
good idea.
who has?

No idea. This is only my 2nd draft. I did bring 2 original Scouts back from ATD 7 in Plager and Lonsberry. They seek revenge...and playoff paychecks.

Pwnasaurus
05-02-2008, 02:44 PM
Here is the list of the players who have Dunnell Cup Rings:

There has not been a mulitple cup winner at coach nor goaltender.

Hooley Smith - 2
Adam Oates 2
Bobby Rousseau - 2
Doug Risebrough - 2
Newsy Lalonde - 2
Don Marcotte 2
Ted Harris - 2
Bill Hajt - 2

Tommy Ivan
Hap Day
Al Arbour
Paul Kariya
Doug Gilmour
Gordie Howe
Johnny Bucyk
Peter Bondra
Dean Prentice
Ryan Smyth
Stan Smyl
Brad Richards
Doug Bentley
Cyclone Taylor
Roy Conacher
Odie Cleghorn
Paul Thompson
Phil Goyette
Terry O'Reilly
Marian Hossa
Charlie Simmer
Yvan Cournoyer
Vic Hadfield
Jean Ratelle
Doug Jarvis
Pit Martin
Marcel Bonin
Troy Murray
Eddie Shack
Pierre Turgeon
Sprague Cleghorn
Brad Park
Chris Chelios
Jim Schoenfeld
Stefan Persson
Charlie Huddy
Allan Stanley
Earl Seibert
Babe Siebert
Sylvio Mantha
Didier Pitre
Denis Potvin
Harry Howell
Marcel Pronovost
Rob Ramage
Bill Barilko
Lloyd Cook
Johnny Bower
Gump Worsley
Mike Liut
Glenn Hall
Normie Smith
Charlie Hodge
Turk Broda
Roger Crozier
Rollie Melanson