ATD #9, Part 5

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FissionFire
04-12-2008, 06:39 PM
Welcome to ATD #9

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 3 extra players.

Trading is allowed. Trades must be equal in numbers, 2 picks for 2 picks, 1 player and a pick for 2 picks, and so on. Really lopsided trades can be vetoed

You MUST PM the GM after you once you have made your pick.

Announcment: The clock is now 6 hours. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PM a list to someone if you are up for a pick anytime within the next 20 if you are not planning on logging in for 4+ hours as the picks tend to roll along quickly if this is done. The rule where 1 hour is reduced from the time of GMs who miss a pick is now being enforced.

Reduced Timer:
Donair City Loch Ness Monsters (Bring Back Bucky) - 5 hours
Montreal Sarasaurusrex (Nate the Great & chaosrevolver) - 3 hours
Ottawa Silver Seven (Cup 2008 Sens Rule) - 3 hours
St. Louis Eagles (BlueBleeder) - 5 hours
Vancouver Millionaires (monster_bertuzzi) - 3 hours
Victoria Salmon Kings (Hedberg) - 5 hours

SKIPPED PICKS:
ON THE CLOCK: Pick 525, Regina Pats (seventieslord) until 12:32AM EST

ATD #9, Part 1 (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=493191)
ATD #9, Part 2 (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=497131)
ATD #9, Part 3 (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=499592)
ATD #9, Part 4 (http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=502181)
Round 1
#|Team|Player|Position
1|Quebec Nordiques|Bobby Orr|D
2|Lada Togliatti|Wayne Gretzky|C
3|Ottawa 67's|Gordie Howe|RW
4|Dallas Freeze|Doug Harvey|D
5|Kingston RMC Paladins|Mario Lemieux|C
6|Philadelphia Flyers|Eddie Shore|D
7|Vancouver Millionaires|Patrick Roy|G
8|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Bobby Hull|LW
9|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Jean Beliveau|C
10|St. Louis Eagles|Maurice Richard|RW
11|Inglewood Jacks|Guy Lafleur|RW
12|Kootenay Ice|Raymond Bourque|D
13|Regina Pats|Jacques Plante|G
14|Detroit Red Wings|Dominik Hasek|G
15|Winnipeg Jets|Denis Potvin|D
16|Kansas City Scouts|Mark Messier|C
17|Montreal Maroons|Howie Morenz|C
18|Calgary Stampeders|Ted Lindsay|LW
19|Victoria Salmon Kings|Mike Bossy|RW
20|Detroit Falcons|Leonard "Red" Kelly|C/D
21|Buffalo Bisons|Stan Mikita|C
22|Toronto Maple Leafs|Martin Brodeur|G
23|Nanaimo Clippers|Bobby Clarke|C
24|Ottawa Silver Seven|Nicklas Lidstrom|D
25|St. Catharines TeePees|Terry Sawchuk|G
26|Glace Bay Miners|Phil Esposito|C
27|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Glenn Hall|G
28|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Larry Robinson|D
29|Springfield Isotopes|Ken Dryden|G
30|Trail Smoke Eaters|Bryan Trottier|C
31|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Frank Mahovlich|LW
32|Kingston RMC Paladins|Steve Yzerman|C

Round 2
#|Team|Player|Position
33|Nanaimo Clippers|Viacheslav Fetisov|D
34|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Vladislav Tretiak|G
35|Trail Smoke Eaters|Bill Durnan|G
36|Sprinfield Isotopes|Brad Park|D
37|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Milt Schmidt|C
38|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Dit Clapper|D
39|Glace Bay Miners|Chris Chelios|D
40|St. Catharines TeePees|Paul Coffey|D
41|Ottawa Silver Seven|Jaromir Jagr|RW
42|Dallas Freeze|Turk Broda|G
43|Toronto Maple Leafs|Scott Stevens|D
44|Buffalo Bisons|Pierre Pilote|D
45|Montreal Wanderers|Bernard Geoffrion|RW
46|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Earl Seibert|D
47|Kansas City Scouts|Tim Horton|D
48|Philadelphia Flyers|Bernie Parent|G
49|Calgary Stampeders|Al MacInnis|D
50|Winnipeg Jets|Joe Sakic|C
51|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Jari Kurri|RW
52|Regina Pats|Gilbert Perreault|C
53|Kootenay Ice|Valeri Kharlamov|LW
54|Inglewood Jacks|Brian Leetch|D
55|Montreal Wanderers|Édouard Lalonde|C
56|Victoria Salmon Kings|Billy Smith|G
57|Detroit Red Wings|Cyclone Taylor|
58|Vancouver Millionaires|Henri Richard|C
59|Montreal Maroons|Charlie Conacher|RW
60|Nanaimo Clippers|Clint Benedict|G
61|Kansas City Scouts|Johnny Bower|G
62|Ottawa 67's|Syl Apps Sr.|C
63|Lada Togliatti|Sprague Cleghorn|D
64|Quebec Nordiques|Chuck Gardiner|G

Round 3
#|Team|Player|Position
65|Quebec Nordiques|Dickie Moore|LW
66|Lada Togliatti|Bill Cook|RW
67|Ottawa 67's|King Clancy|D
68|Montreal Wanderers|Joe Malone|C/LW
69|Kingston RMC Paladins|Grant Fuhr|G
70|Montreal Maroons|Borje Salming|D
71|Vancouver Millionaires|Peter Forsberg|C
72|Detroit Red Wings|Scott Neidermeyer|D
73|Detroit Falcons|Frank Brimsek|G
74|St. Louis Eagles|Elmer Lach|C
75|Philadelphia Flyers|Chris Pronger|D
76|Winnipeg Jets|Jiri Holecek|G
77|Regina Pats|Serge Savard|D
78|Montreal Saraurusrex|Jack Stewart|D
79|Springfield Isotopes|Andy Bathgate|RW
80|Calgary Stampders|George Hainsworth|G
81|Inglewood Jacks|Sergei Fedorov|C
82|Victoria Salmon Kings|Bill Gadsby|D
83|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Rod Langway|D
84|Detroit Falcons|Max Bentley|C
85|Vancouver Millionaires|Brett Hull|RW
86|Toronto Maple Leafs|Ted Kennedy|C
87|Detroit Falcons|Émile Bouchard|D
88|Ottawa Silver Seven|Toe Blake|LW
89|Kootenay Ice|Boris Mikhailov|RW
90|Glace Bay Miners|Guy Lapointe|D
91|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Peter Stastny|C
92|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Johnny Bucyk|LW
93|Kootenay Ice|Valeri Vasiliev|D
94|Trail Smoke Eaters|Jacques Laperriere|D
95|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Brendan Shanahan|LW
96|St. Louis Eagles|Cecil Thompson|G

Round 4
#|Team|Player|Position
97|St. Louis Eagles|Bill Quackenbush|D
98|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Eric Lindros|C
99|Trail Smoke Eaters|Aurel Joliat|LW
100|St. Catharines TeePees|Lionel Conacher|D
101|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Cam Neely|RW
102|Dallas Freeze|Marcel Dionne|C
103|Glace Bay Miners|Bob Gainey|LW
104|St. Catharines TeePees|Dave Keon|C
105|Ottawa Silver Seven|J.C. Tremblay|D
106|Dallas Freeze|Tom Johnson|D
107|Toronto Maple Leafs|Rob Blake|D
108|Buffalo Bisons|Harvey "Busher" Jackson|LW
109|Nanaimo Clippers|Sergei Makarov|RW
110|Victoria Salmon Kings|Sid Abel|C/LW
111|Calgary Stampeders|Bill Cowley|C/LW
112|Montreal Maroons|Ron Francis|C
113|Lada Togliatti|Mark Howe|LW/D
114|Winnipeg Jets|Marcel Pronovost|D
115|Detroit Red Wings|Yvan Cournoyer|RW
116|Nanaimo Clippers|Frank Boucher|C
117|Quebec Nordiques|Adam Oates|C
118|Inglewood Jacks|Nels Stewart|C
119|St. Louis Eagles|Ebbie Goodfellow|C/D
120|Victoria Salmon Kings|Harry Howell|D
121|Springfield Isotopes|Norm Ullman|C
122|Buffalo Bisons|Alex Delvecchio|C/LW
123|Kingston RMC Paladins|Ken Reardon|D
124|Kingston RMC Paladins|Doug Wilson|D
125|Kingston RMC Paladins|Larry Murphy|D
126|Ottawa 67's|Anatoli Firsov|LW
127|Detroit Falcons|Doug Bentley|C/LW
128|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Alexei Kasatonov|D

Round 5
#|Team|Player|Position
129|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Ching Johnson|D
130|Detroit Falcons|George Boucher|D
131|Ottawa 67's|Georges Vezina|G
132|Kansas City Scouts|Walter "Babe" Pratt|D
133|Philadelphia Flyers|Dale Hawerchuk|C/LW
134|Inglewood Jacks|Albert "Babe" Siebert|LW/D
135|Buffalo Bisons|Carl Brewer|D
136|Calgary Stampeders|Frank Nighbor|C
137|St. Catharines Teepees|Darryl Sittler|C
138|St. Louis Eagles|Cy Denneny|LW
139|Philadelphia Flyers|Doug Gilmour|C
140|Kootenay Ice|Fern Flaman|D
141|Regina Pats|Vladimir Konstantinov|D
142|Detroit Red Wings|Jarome Iginla|RW
143|Winnipeg Jets|Roy Conacher|LW
144|Kansas City Scouts|Steve Shutt|LW
145|Montreal Maroons|Ed Belfour|G
146|Springfield Isotopes|Teemu Selanne|RW
147|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Pavel Bure|RW
148|Regina Pats|Lanny McDonald|RW
149|Buffalo Bisons|Vaclav Nedomansky|RW
150|Toronto Maple Leafs|Mats Sundin|C
151|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Glenn Anderson|RW
152|Ottawa Silver Seven|Pat LaFontaine|C
153|Springfield Isotopes|Sylvio Mantha|D
154|Glace Bay Miners|Lorne "Gump" Worsley|G
155|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Mike Modano|C
156|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Hap Day|D
157|Detroit Falcons|Guy Carbonneau|C
158|Trail Smoke Eaters|Arthur Ross|D
159|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Phil Housley|D
160|Montreal Wanderers|Jean Ratelle|C

Round 6
#|Team|Player|Position
161|Montreal Wanderers|Michel Goulet|LW
162|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Dave Taylor|RW
163|Trail Smoke Eaters|Igor Larionov|C
164|Kansas City Scouts|Harry Broadbent|RW
165|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Jacques Lemaire|C
166|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Esa Tikkanen|LW
167|Glace Bay Miners|Allan Stanley|D
168|Quebec Nordiques|Joe Primeau|C
169|Ottawa Silver Seven|Brian Propp|LW
170|Dallas Freeze|Luc Robitaille|LW
171|Toronto Maple Leafs|George Armstrong|RW
172|Buffalo Bisons|Bill White|D
173|Montreal Wanderers|Eric Desjardins|D
174|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Alexander Ragulin|D
175|Springfield Isotopes|Bill Barber|LW
176|Montreal Maroons|Mike Gartner|RW
177|Detroit Falcons|Bryan Hextall, Sr.|RW
178|Winnipeg Jets|Claude Provost|RW
179|Detroit Red Wings|Clark Gillies|LW
180|Regina Pats|Adam Foote|D
181|Kootenay Ice|Vladimir Petrov|C
182|Inglewood Jacks|Art Coulter|D
183|St. Louis Eagles|Pat Stapleton|D
184|Victoria Salmon Kings|Sergei Zubov|D
185|Detroit Red Wings|Marty Barry|C
186|Vancouver Millionaires|Randy Carlyle|D
187|Philadelphia Flyers|Eddie Gerard|D/LW
188|Regina Pats|Aleksandr Yakushev|LW
189|Victoria Salmon Kings|Denis Savard|C
190|Ottawa 67's|Claude Lemieux|RW
191|Lada Togliatti|John Tonelli|LW
192|Quebec Nordiques|Nikolai Sologubov|D

Round 7
#|Team|Player|Position
193|Quebec Nordiques|Dino Ciccerelli|RW
194|Lada Togliatti|Rick Middleton|RW
195|Ottawa 67's|Jimmy Thomson|D
196|Lada Togliatti|Harry Lumley|G
197|Victoria Salmon Kings|Rod Brind'Amour|C
198|Philadelphia Flyers|Joe Nieuwendyk|C
199|Vancouver Millionaires|Pete Mahovlich|C/LW
200|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Tony Esposito|G
201|St. Catharines Teepees|David "Sweeney" Schriner|LW
202|St Louis Eagles|Rod Gilbert|RW
203|Inglewood Jacks|Hooley Smith|C
204|Calgary Stampeders|Rick Tocchet|RW
205|Nanaimo Clippers|Aleksandr Maltsev|RW
206|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Cecil "Babe" Dye|RW
207|Winnipeg Jets|Tim Kerr|RW
208|Detroit Falcons|Bert Olmstead|LW
209|Montreal Maroons|Gary Suter|D
210|Calgary Stampeders|Brent Sutter|C
211|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Rick Martin|LW
212|Nanaimo Clippers|Red Horner|D
213|Buffalo Bisons|Ed Litzenberger|C/RW
214|Toronto Maple Leafs|Patrik Elias|LW
215|Dallas Freeze|Jere Lehtinen|LW
216|Ottawa Silver Seven|Tom Barrasso|G
217|Kootenay Ice|Terry Harper|D
218|Glace Bay Miners|Marty Pavelich|LW
219|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Dave Langevin|D
220|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Gerry Cheevers|G
221|St. Catharines Teepees|Markus Naslund|RW/LW
222|Trail Smoke Eaters|Harry Cameron|D
223|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Derian Hatcher|D
224|Montreal Wanderers|Ernie Johnson|D

Round 8
#|Team|Player|Position
225|Montreal Wanderers|Didier Pitre|D/RW
226|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Alexander Mogilny|RW
227|Trail Smoke Eaters|Ken Hodge|RW
228|St. Catharines Teepees|Kevin Lowe|D
229|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Steve Larmer|RW
230|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Reijo Routsalainen|D
231|Glace Bay Miners|Wayne Cashman|LW
232|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Butch Goring|C
233|Ottawa Silver Seven|Joe Thornton|C
234|Dallas Freeze|Leo Boivin|D
235|Toronto Maple Leafs|Bobby Baun|D
236|Vancouver Millionaires|Joe Mullen|RW
237|Nanaimo Clippers|Woody Dumart|LW
238|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Syd Howe|C/LW
239|Calgary Stampeders|Brad McCrimmon|D
240|Montreal Maroons|Dave Andreychuk|LW
241|Calgary Stampeders|Jack Darragh|RW
242|Springfield Isotopes|Hod Stuart|D
243|Detroit Red Wings|Gus Mortson|D
244|Regina Pats|Bob Goldham|D
245|Kootenay Ice|Vladimir Lutchenko|D
246|Inglewood Jacks|Bun Cook|LW
247|Montreal Wanderers|Jean-Guy Talbot|D
248|Kingston RMC Paladins|John Leclair|LW
249|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Danny Gare|RW
250|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Paul Kariya|LW
251|Philadelphia Flyers|Theoren Fleury|RW
252|Vancouver Millionaires|Ken Morrow|D
253|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Doug Mohns|D/LW
254|Ottawa 67's|Craig Ramsay|LW
255|Lada Togliatti|Vsevolod Bobrov|LW
256|Quebec Nordiques|Ted Green|D

Round 9
#|Team|Player|Position
257|Quebec Nordiques|Mark Recchi|RW
258|Lada Togliatti|Bernie Federko|C
259|Detroit Falcons|Ed Westfall|RW
260|Kansas City Scouts|Paul Thompson|LW
261|Kingston RMC Paladins|Sid Smith|LW
262|Philadelphia Flyers|Kevin Stevens|LW
263|Vancouver Millionaires|Sergei Gonchar|D
264|Springfield Isotopes|Zdeno Chara|D
265|Victoria Salmon Kings|Reggie Leach|RW
266|St Louis Eagles|Brian Sutter|LW
267|Inglewood Jacks|Ed Giacomin|G
268|Kootenay Ice|Cecil Dillon|RW
269|Regina Pats|Vladimir Krutov|LW
270|Detroit Red Wings|Elmer Vasko|D
271|Springfield Isotopes|Walt Tkaczuk|C
272|Calgary Stampeders|Herb Gardiner|D
273|Montreal Maroons|Joe Hall|D
274|Kansas City Scouts|Frantisek Pospisil|D
275|Kingston RMC Paladins|Irvine "Ace" Bailey|RW
276|Nanaimo Clippers|Ott Heller|D
277|Buffalo Bisons|Chuck Rayner|G
278|Toronto Maple Leafs|Gary Roberts|LW
279|Dallas Freeze|Daniel Alfredsson|RW
280|Ottawa Silver Seven|Ralph Backstrom|C
281|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Cy Wentworth|D
282|Glace Bay Miners|Billy Burch|C
283|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Charlie Simmer|LW
284|Ottawa 67's|Jan Suchy|D
285|St. Catharines Teepees|Bill Mosienko|RW
286|Trail Smoke Eaters|Scotty Bowman|Coach
287|Winnipeg Jets|William "Flash" Hollett|D
288|Montreal Wanderers|Rogatien Vachon|G

Round 10
#|Team|Player|Position
289|Detroit Red Wings|Herbie Lewis|LW
290|Winnipeg Jets|Doug Jarvis|C
291|Trail Smoke Eaters|Joel Otto|C
292|St. Catharines Teepees|Bob Pulford|C/LW
293|Quebec Nordiques|Craig Ludwig|D
294|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Mats Naslund|LW
295|Glace Bay Miners|Anders Hedberg|RW
296|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Bobby Nystrom|RW
297|Ottawa Silver Seven|Brian Bellows|RW
298|Dallas Freeze|Dick Duff|LW
299|Toronto Maple Leafs|Peter Bondra|RW
300|Springfield Isotopes|Bobby Smith|C
301|Nanaimo Clippers|Lionel Hitchman|D
302|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Nick Metz|LW
303|Calgary Stampeders|Trevor Linden|C/RW
304|Montreal Maroons|Jack Crawford|D
305|Kansas City Scouts|Frank Foyston|C
306|Winnipeg Jets|Buddy O'Connor|C
307|Lada Togliatti|Don Marcotte|LW
308|Kingston RMC Paladins|Bobby Bauer|RW
309|Kootenay Ice|Mike Richter|G
310|Inglewood Jacks|Jeremy Roenick|C
311|St Louis Eagles|Hector "Toe" Blake|Coach
312|Victoria Salmon Kings|Terry O'Reilly|RW
313|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Mickey MacKay|C
314|Vancouver Millionaires|Mike Ramsey|D
315|Inglewood Jacks|Joe Klukay|LW
316|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Bobby Holik|C/LW
317|Detroit Falcons|Jack Walker|LW
318|Ottawa 67's|Gordon "Duke" Keats|C
319|Montreal Wanderers|Lorne Chabot|G
320|Detroit Falcons|Silas Griffis|D

Round 11
#|Team|Player|Position
321|Detroit Falcons|Gordie Drillon|RW
322|Montreal Wanderers|Vincent Damphousse|C
323|Ottawa 67's|Dale Hunter|C
324|Kansas City Scouts|Ken Wharram|RW
325|Kingston RMC Paladins|Tony Leswick|RW
326|Philadelphia Flyers|Ulf Samuelsson|D
327|Vancouver Millionaires|Alexei Kovalev|RW|
328|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Stefan Persson|D
329|Nanaimo Clippers|Reg Noble|LW/D
330|St. Louis Eagles|Rob Ramage|D
331|Philadelphia Flyers|Michael Peca|C
332|Kootenay Ice|Don Luce|C
333|Regina Pats|Kirk Muller|C
334|Detroit Red Wings|Tommy Phillips|RW/LW
335|Winnipeg Jets|Alexander Ovechkin|LW
336|Kansas City Scouts|Barclay Plager|D
337|Montreal Maroons|Wendel Clark|LW
338|Calgary Stampeders|Keith Primeau|C
339|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Adam Graves|LW
340|Regina Pats|Ken Linseman|C
341|Buffalo Bisons|Neil Colville|C/D
342|Toronto Maple Leafs|Al Iafrate|D
343|Dallas Freeze|John Ferguson|LW
344|Ottawa Silver Seven|Dany Heatley|LW
345|Buffalo Bisons|Tod Sloan|C
346|Glace Bay Miners|Reed Larson|D
347|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Kent Nilsson|C
348|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Bill Barilko|D
349|St. Catharines Teepees|Lennart Svedburg|D
350|Trail Smoke Eaters|Rick MacLeish|C
351|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Sidney Crosby|C
352|Lada Togliatti|Jim Schoenfeld|D

Round 12
#|Team|Player|Position
353|Victoria Salmon Kings|Dirk Graham|RW
354|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Craig Hartsburg|D
355|Trail Smoke Eaters|Dean Prentice|LW
356|St. Catharines Teepees|Al Arbour|Coach
357|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Bobby Rousseau|RW
358|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Paul Reinhart|D
359|Glace Bay Miners|Ron Ellis|RW
360|Buffalo Bisons|Don Marshall|C/LW
361|Ottawa Silver Seven|Chris Phillips|D
362|Dallas Freeze|Jacques Lemaire|Coach
363|Toronto Maple Leafs|Rick Vaive|RW
364|Buffalo Bisons|Fleming Mackell|C/LW
365|Regina Pats|Pat Verbeek|RW
366|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Harry "Hap" Holmes|G
367|Ottawa 67's|Keith Magnuson|D
368|Montreal Maroons|Derek Sanderson|C
369|Kansas City Scouts|Alf Smith|RW
370|Winnipeg Jets|Clarence "Taffy" Abel|D
371|Detroit Red Wings|Steve Kasper|C
372|Regina Pats|Vincent Lecavalier|C
373|Kootenay Ice|Cooney Weiland|C
374|Inglewood Jacks|Jimmy Watson|D
375|St. Louis Eagles|Ulf Nilsson|C
376|Victoria Salmon Kings|Vic Hadfield|LW
377|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Craig MacTavish|C
378|Vancouver Millionaires|Valeri Kamensky|LW
379|Philadelphia Flyers|Dave Poulin|C/LW
380|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Edward Ivanov|D
381|Dallas Freeze|Neal Broten|C
382|Ottawa 67's|Vladimir Martinec|RW
383|Lada Togliatti|James Patrick|D
384|Quebec Nordiques|Bob Bourne|C

Round 13
#|Team|Player|Position
385|Quebec Nordiques|Bernie Nicholls|C
386|Detroit Red Wings|Phil Watson|C/RW
387|Ottawa 67's|Barry Beck|D
388|Lada Togliatti|Tommy Ivan|Coach
389|Kingston RMC Paladins|Jim Neilson|D
390|Montreal Maroons |Fred Shero|Coach
391|Vancouver Millionaires|Stan Smyl|RW
392|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Lester Patrick|Coach
393|Victoria Salmon Kings|Larry Aurie|RW
394|St. Louis Eagles|Edgar Laprade|C
395|Inglewood Jacks|Hap Day|Coach
396|Kootenay Ice|Yvon Lambert|LW
397|Regina Pats|Steve Duchesne|D
398|Montreal Wanderers|Lester Patrick|D
399|Winnipeg Jets|J.P. Parise|LW
400|Kansas City Scouts|Troy Murray|C
401|Philadelphia Flyers |Ryan Smyth|LW
402|Calgary Stampeders|Ed Van Impe|D
403|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Carol Vadnais|D
404|Nanaimo Clippers|Jiri Holik|
405|Buffalo Bisons|Dick Irvin|Coach
406|Toronto Maple Leafs|Punch Imlach|Coach
407|Dallas Freeze|Ken Daneyko|D
408|Ottawa Silver Seven|Steve Smith|D
409|Springfield Isotopes|Baldy Northcutt|LW
410|Glace Bay Miners|Doug Riseborough|C
411|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Wade Redden|D
412|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Tommy Gorman|Coach
413|St. Catharines Teepees|Kris Draper|C
414|Trail Smoke Eaters|Keith Tkachuk|C/LW
415|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|John Madden|C
416|Winnipeg Jets|Owen Nolan|RW

Round 14
#|Team|Player|Position
417|Montreal Wanderers|Frank Finnigan|RW
418|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Martin Gelinas|LW
419|Trail Smoke Eaters|Leo Reise Jr.|D
420|St. Catharines TeePees|Mike Foligno|RW
421|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Shayne Corson|LW
422|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Bob Probert|LW
423|Glace Bay Miners|Mario Tremblay|RW
424|Springfield Isotopes|John MacLean|RW
425|Ottawa Silver Seven|Brian Rafalski|D
426|Dallas Freeze|Charlie Huddy|D
427|Toronto Maple Leafs|Bob Nevin|RW
428|Buffalo Bisons|Orland Kurtenbach|C
429|Nanaimo Clippers|Jack Adams|Coach
430|Regina Pats|Metro Prystai|C
431|Calgary Stampeders|Mark Tinordi|D
432|Montreal Maroons|Behn Wilson|D
433|Kansas City Scouts|Ross Lonsberry|LW
434|Detroit Red Wings|Wally Stanowski|D
435|Detroit Red Wings|Vladimir Shadrin|C
436|Nanaimo Clippers|Lars-Erik Sjoberg|D
437|Kootenay Ice|Dennis Hull|LW
438|Inglewood Jacks|Pit Lepine|C
439|St. Louis Eagles|Floyd Curry|RW
440|Victoria Salmon Kings|Teppo Numminen|D
441|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Petr Svoboda|D
442|Vancouver Millionaires|Kirk Maltby|LW
443|Philadelphia Flyers|Mike Keane|RW
444|Kingston RMC Paladins|Mike Vernon|G
445|Calgary Stampeders|Al Secord|LW
446|Montreal Wanderers|Ken Mosdell|C
447|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Wayne Merrick|C
448|Quebec Nordiques|Johnny Gottselig|LW

Round 15
#|Team|Player|Position
449|Quebec Nordiques|Alex Connell|G
450|Lada Togliatti|Phil Goyette|C
451|Ottawa 67's|Roger Crozier|G
452|Quebec Nordiques|Jacques Demers|Coach
453|Victoria Salmon Kings|Jiri Bubla|D
454|Philadelphia Flyers|Ilya Kovalchuk|LW
455|Vancouver Millionaires|Pierre Larouche|C
456|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Duane Sutter|RW
457|Victoria Salmon Kings|Chris Drury|C
458|St Louis Eagles|Scott Mellanby|RW
459|Inglewood Jacks|Tommy Anderson|LW/D
460|Kootenay Ice|Ron Greschner|D
461|Regina Pats|Bob Johnson|Coach
462|Detroit Red Wings|Gilles Tremblay|LW
463|Detroit Red Wings|Eric Nesterenko|RW
464|Kansas City Scouts|Pete Green|Coach
465|Montreal Maroons|Wilf Paiement|RW
466|Calgary Stampeders|Steve Thomas|RW/LW
467|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Pat Burns|Coach
468|Nanaimo Clippers|Red Dutton|D
469|Springfield Isotopes|Mike Keenan|Coach
470|Toronto Maple Leafs|Murray Oliver|C
471|Dallas Freeze|Jean Pronovost|RW
472|Ottawa Silver Seven|Jason Spezza|C
473|Springfield Isotopes|Hec Kilrea|LW
474|Glace Bay Miners|Ken Hitchcock|Coach
475|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Ales Hemsky|RW
476|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Glen Skov|C
477|Ottawa RCAF Flyers|Mike McPhee|LW
478|Trail Smoke Eaters|Martin St. Louis|RW
479|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Sven "Tumba" Johansson|C
480|Detroit Falcons|Frank McGee|C

Round 16
#|Team|Player|Position
481|Montreal Wanderers|Cecil Hart|Coach
482|Winnipeg Jets|Calle Johansson|D
483|Trail Smoke Eaters|Dollard St. Laurent|D
484|St. Catharines TeePees|Rene Robert|RW
485|St. Catharines TeePees|Gordon Roberts|LW
486|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters|Dave Semenko|LW
487|Glace Bay Miners|Jerry Korab|D
488|Springfield Isotopes|Dave Burrows|D
489|Ottawa Silver Seven|Alex Smith|D
490|Dallas Freeze|Brian Skrudland|C
491|Toronto Maple Leafs|Curtis Joseph|G
492|Buffalo Bisons|Jerry Toppazzini|RW
493|Nanaimo Clippers|Vyacheslav Starshinov|C
494|Minnesota Fighting Saints|Dallas Smith|D
495|Calgary Stampeders|Phil Russell|D
496|Montreal Maroons|Don McKenney|LW
497|Kansas City Scouts|Gerard Gallant|LW
498|Brooklyn Yawning Otters|Eddie Shack|RW
499|Detroit Falcons|Vitaly Davydov|D
500|Regina Pats|Marian Hossa|RW
501|Kootenay Ice|Kevin Dineen|RW
502|Inglewood Jacks|Odie Cleghorn|RW
503|St. Louis Eagles|Marcel Bonin|LW
504|Victoria Salmon Kings|Harry Sinden|Coach
505|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Kevin Hatcher|D
506|Vancouver Millionaires|Robert Svehla|D
507|Philadelphia Flyers|Don Cherry|Coach
508|Philadelphia Flyers|Mattias Norstrom|D
509|Winnipeg Jets|Glen Sather|Coach
510|Ottawa 67's|Bengt-Ake Gustafsson|RW
511|Lada Togliatti|Bill Hajt|D
512|Quebec Nordiques|Gary Dornhoefer|RW

Round 17
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
513||Quebec Nordiques|Bucko McDonald|D
514||Lada Togliatti|John Vanbiesbrouck|G
515||Ottawa 67's|Gaye Stewart|RW
516||Winnipeg Jets|Andy Moog|G
517||Philadelphia Flyers|Randy McKay|RW
518||Philadelphia Flyers|Andre Dupont|D
519||Vancouver Millionaires|Dave "Tiger" Williams|LW
520||Montreal Sarasaurusrex|Mel Bridgman|C
521||Victoria Salmon Kings|Bobby Carpenter|C
522||St Louis Eagles|Garry Unger|C
523||Inglewood Jacks|Jamie Langenbrunner|RW
524||Kootenay Ice|Al Rollins|G
525||Regina Pats|Pie McKenzie|RW
526||Detroit Red Wings|Gary Bergman|D
527||Detroit Falcons|Mike Grant|D
528||Kansas City Scouts|Ron Stackhouse|D
529||Montreal Maroons|Geoff Courtnall|LW
530|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
531|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
532|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
533|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
534|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
535|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
536|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
537|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
538|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
539|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
540|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
541|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
542|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
543|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
544|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||

Round 18
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
545|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||
546|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
547|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
548|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
549|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
550|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
551|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
552|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
553|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
554|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
555|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
556|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
557|Hedberg|Victoria Salmon Kings||
558|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
559|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
560|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
561|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
562|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
563|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
564|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
565|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
566|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
567|Blue Bleeder|St. Louis Eagles||
568|Hedberg|Victoria Salmon Kings||
569|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
570|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
571|JohnFlyersFan|Philadelphia Flyers||
572|Hedberg|Victoria Salmon Kings||
573|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
574|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
575|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
576|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques

Round 19
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
577|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques||
578|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
579|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
580|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
581|Hedberg|Victoria Salmon Kings||
582|JohnFlyersFan|Philadelphia Flyers||
583|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
584|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
585|Hedberg |Victoria Salmon Kings||
586|Blue Bleeder|St Louis Eagles||
587|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
588|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
589|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
590|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
591|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
592|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
593|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
594|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
595|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
596|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
597|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
598|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
599|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
600|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
601|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
602|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
603|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
604|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
605|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
606|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
607|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
608|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||

Round 20
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
609|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
610|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
611|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
612|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
613|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
614|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
615|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
616|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
617|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
618|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
619|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
620|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
621|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
622|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
623|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
624|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
625|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
626|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
627|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
628|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
629|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
630|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
631|Blue Bleeder|St. Louis Eagles||
632|Hedberg|Victoria Salmon Kings||
633|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
634|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
635|JohnFlyersFan|Philadelphia Flyers||
636|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
637|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
638|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
639|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
640|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques

Round 21
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
641|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques||
642|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
643|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
644|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
645|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
646|JohnFlyersFan|Philadelphia Flyers||
647|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
648|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
649|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
650|Blue Bleeder|St Louis Eagles||
651|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
652|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
653|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
654|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
655|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
656|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
657|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
658|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
659|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
660|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
661|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
662|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
663|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
664|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
665|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
666|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
667|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
668|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
669|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
670|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
671|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
672|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||

Round 22
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
673|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||
674|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
675|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
676|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
677|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
678|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
679|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
680|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
681|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
682|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
683|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
684|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
685|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
686|Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire|Minnesota Fighting Saints||
687|Rogers Pancreas&Miami Screaming Eagles|Calgary Stampeders||
688|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
689|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
690|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
691|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
692|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
693|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
694|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
695|Blue Bleeder|St. Louis Eagles||
696|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
697|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
698|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
699|JohnFlyersFan|Philadelphia Flyers||
700|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
701|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||
702|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
703|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
704|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques

Round 23
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
705|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques||
706|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
707|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
708|reckoning|Ottawa 67's||
709|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
710|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
711|monster_bertuzzi|Vancouver Millionaires||
712|NatetheGreat and Chaos Revolver|Montreal Sarasaurusrex||
713|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
714|Blue Bleeder|St Louis Eagles||
715|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
716|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
717|seventieslord|Regina Pats||
718|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||
736|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
720|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
721|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
722|Lapierre Sports & MXD|Montreal Wanderers||
723|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
724|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
725|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
726|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
727|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
728|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
729|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
730|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
731|Bring Back Bucky|Donair City Loch Ness Monsters||
732|God Bless Canada & raleh|Ottawa RCAF Flyers||
733|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
734|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
735|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
736|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||

Round 24
#|GM(s)|Team|Player|Position
737|vcl and Willie for Captain|Winnipeg Jets||
738|Vakar Lajos|Brooklyn Yawning Otters||
739|shawnmullin|Trail Smoke Eaters||
740|Papershoes and Johnny O|St. Catharines TeePees||
741|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
742|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
743|Transplanted Caper|Glace Bay Miners||
744|Rick Middleton & Sturminator|Springfield Isotopes||
745|Cup2008SensRule|Ottawa Silver Seven||
746|cottonking|Dallas Freeze||
747|Leaf Lander|Toronto Maple Leafs||
748|pappyline|Buffalo Bisons||
749|pitseleh|Nanaimo Clippers||
750|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
751|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
752|McLovin|Montreal Maroons||
753|Pwnasaurus & JimEIV|Kansas City Scouts||
754|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
755|Spitfire11|Detroit Red Wings||
756|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
757|Evil Sather|Kootenay Ice||
758|arrbez|Inglewood Jacks||
759|Blue Bleeder|St. Louis Eagles||
760|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
761|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
762|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
763|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
764|VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2|Kingston RMC Paladins||
765|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
766|Eagle Belfour|Detroit Falcons||
767|nikjr|Lada Togliatti||
768|Jungosi & LAXAttack|Quebec Nordiques


Trades
Team A|Players/Picks|Team B|Players/Picks
Dallas Freeze|4, 381|Detroit Falcons|23, 87
Minnesota Fighting Saints|9, 248|Victoria Salmon Kings|19, 110
Detroit Falcons|20, 84|Nanaimo Clippers|23, 68
St. Catharines TeePees|25, 40, 104|Springfield Isotopes|29, 36, 93
Nanaimo Clippers|32, 33, 353|Montreal Wanderers|45, 68, 173
Kingston RMC Paladins|32, 365|Nanaimo Clippers|60, 188
Kansas City Scouts|47, 82, 274|Calgary Stampeders|49, 80, 272
Philadelphia Flyers|48, 81, 401|Montreal Maroons|59, 70, 390
Montreal Sarasaurusrex|51, 78, 206|Detroit Red Wings|57, 72, 185
Montreal Wanderers|55, 247|St. Louis Eagles|96, 97
Kansas City Scouts|61, 132, 260, 324|Detroit Falcons|82, 113, 208, 305
Detroit Falcons|73, 137, 201|Victoria Salmon Kings|82, 125, 189
Philadelphia Flyers|75, 139, 331|Inglewood Jacks|81, 134, 315
Springfield Isotopes|76, 117, 204|Kootenay Ice|89, 93, 217
Winnipeg Jets|76, 153, 281|Springfield Isotopes|79, 143, 271
Vancouver Millionaires|85, 236|Buffalo Bisons|122, 135
Dallas Freeze|102, 742|Donair Loch Ness Monsters|151, 599
Lada Togliatti|113, 196, 388|Detroit Falcons|127, 130, 447
Quebec Nordiques|117, 168|Springfield Isotopes|128, 129
Springfield Isotopes|121, 136, 264|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|128, 129, 232
Nanaimo Clippers|116, 205, 436|Regina Pats|148, 188, 340
Kingston RMC Paladins|123, 710, 763|Philadelphia Flyers|133, 504, 517
Kingston RMC Paladins|125, 692, 713, 760|Victoria Salmon Kings|197, 453, 572, 581
Calgary Stampeders|136, 204|Springfield Isotopes|146, 175
St. Catharines TeePees|137, 201|Detroit Falcons|157, 164
Winnipeg Jets|143, 296|Springfield Isotopes|153, 242
Kansas City Scouts|164, 305|Detroit Falcons|177, 241
Kingston RMC Paladins|250, 762|Vancouver Millionaires|252, 696
Kingston RMC Paladins|249, 761|Montreal Sarasaurusrex|250, 700
Calgary Stampeders|241, 445, 573, 580|Detroit Falcons|Bill Cowley, 367, 722, 751
Kingston RMC Paladins|248, 659|Minnesota Fighting Saints|249, 645
Ottawa RCAF Flyers|253, 447, 644|Detroit Falcons|284, 293, 741
Brooklyn Yawning Otters|281, 296, 498|Winnipeg Jets|287, 290, 482
Detroit Falcons|259, 446, 766|Ottawa 67's|284, 367, 708
Kingston RMC Paladins|275, 430, 723, 750|Minnesota Fighting Saints|316, 380, 636, 659
Detroit Falcons|293, 452|Quebec Nordiques|320, 321
Detroit Red Wings|289, 416, 736|Montreal Wanderers|307, 398, 718
Springfield Isotopes|300, 469|Buffalo Bisons|345, 360
Lada Togliatti|307, 352|Montreal Wanderers|319, 322
Nanaimo Clippers|329, 649|Victoria Salmon Kings|353, 557
Detroit Red Wings|386|Lada Togliatti|Steve Kasper
Winnipeg Jets|416, 499, 736|Detroit Red Wings|434, 463, 719
Montreal Wanderers|446, 701, 722|Detroit Falcons|480, 609, 737
Ottawa RCAF Flyers|477, 548|St. Catharines TeePees|485, 540
Ottawa Silver Seven|Daniel Alfredsson|Dallas Freeze|Joe Thornton
Detroit Falcons|499, 527, 754|Winnipeg Jets|509, 516, 737

shawnmullin
04-12-2008, 08:32 PM
Part 5 so soon.

I blame useless posts...

Like this one.

(What else does an Oilers fan have to do these days?)

vancityluongo
04-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Part 5 so soon.

I blame useless posts...

Like this one.

(What else does an Oilers fan have to do these days?)

Draft talk is being overshadowed for sure, but that doesn't mean it isn't there. Part of the reason for sure is how much OT conversations are going on between the GM's (like this one). BUt there have been a lot of solid debates about players too. Even with the same amount of OT posts as previous ATD's, we'd be on at least thread 3 or 4 by now, and we'd end up with around 6 or 7, compared to the max. 5 that was reached last time. Although, the way things are going, this one might hit thread 10.

And I hate this time of year if your team isn't in the playoffs. Can't play hockey, or any other winter sports for that matter. Also there's a little snow around, and the ground is wet, so that takes out playing soccer/baseball etc. Not much happening in the world either. Blah.

VanIslander
04-12-2008, 10:12 PM
Kingston selects a talented winger who led the Rangers in points one season, in goals twice when he had a couple of Top-10 in the NHL goal scoring seasons in NY, but whose physical, defensive game made him a perennial all-star game selection and his checking against Gordie Howe helped push Detroit to overtime of game 7, resulting in a Red Wings trade for him the following season, to continue his legendary pestering of the Habs Rocket Richard, this being none other than 1948-49 retro-Selke trophy winner
http://www.logoserver.com/college/RoyalMilitaryCollPaladins.GIF
"Tough Tony" Leswick

https://www.gfg.com/cardimg/112/23053.jpg

NHL Second All-Star Team (1950)
in NHL All-Star Game (1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1952, 1954)
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... his specialty was shadowing star opponents...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07E6DF1238F934A35754C0A9679C8B 63
... "a competitive little bugger"... he played much larger than his size.. an indomitable spirit...
a pest... most famous for scoring the (fluke) final goal in overtime of game seven of the 1954 Stanley Cup final.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Leswick

...one of the best players in the NHL in the late 1940s and throughout the 1950s.... a fantastic little player... a relentless checker, a tough as nails body checker, and perhaps the NHL's all time ultimate pest... Although he did chip in offensively while in New York, including 27 and 24 goal seasons, Tony was best known for shadowing the league's top players. Perhaps his favorite target was Montreal's fiery Rocket Richard. The long lasting feud between the two lasted for years. Leswick knew how to get under Richard's skin. Richard, who had a short fuse to start with, would often blow up at Leswick and assaulted him. Often Leswick would take Richard's shot and write it off as "taking one for the team." Richard would be banished to the penalty box while the Rangers would go on the powerplay. Other times Leswick was more than willing to answer Richard's battle cry, and the two would brawl it out. Both players were banished to the box, which of course would have to be a small victory for the Rangers. Anytime you could take Rocket Richard out of the game for a few minutes at a time greatly enhanced the Rangers chance of winning.

Now picking on the ferociously explosive Richard takes guts. The only player perhaps more dangerous to tick off was Gordie Howe - not only arguably the greatest player of all time, but perhaps the greatest fighter of all time too. Leswick fearlessly needled Mr. Hockey with great success. Like Richard, no one had as much success keeping Howe off of his game as Leswick did. So impressed by Leswick's performance were the Red Wings, they went out and traded legendary Gaye Stewart to get him.

Leswick played the next 4 years in Detroit, and was part of arguably the greatest team of all time. Leswick's ice time and offensive production went down on a deeper Wings squad, but he continued to be the League's ultimate pest.

The Wings won 3 Stanley Cup championships in Tony's 4 year stay in the Motor City. In 1953-54 Tony scored the Stanley Cup clinching goal in one of the more memorable goals scored in Stanley Cup history. An epic battle between the Wings and Montreal Canadiens went the distance - overtime in game 7...
http://redwingslegends.blogspot.com/2006/05/tony-leswick.html

... a skilled forward who could play both wings... a gritty competitor... scored 40 points in 52 games as a rookie pro with the AHL's Cleveland Barons... before scoring 15 goals as a rookie with the New York Rangers in 1945-46.... Leswick spent six years with the Blueshirts and recorded consecutive 20-goal seasons in 1947 and 1948. After scoring 44 points in 1949-50, he was named to the NHL second all-star team.... "Mighty Mouse" was sent to the Detroit... a solid addition to the powerful Red Wings... His skill and savvy helped the Wings win the Stanley Cup in 1952, 1954, and 1955....clever winger...
http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=13382

EagleBelfour
04-12-2008, 10:15 PM
#12 GORDIE DRILLON (1913-1986)

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5239/khjkkhjhjked3.png
1955-56 Parkhurst

6'2 feets, 178 pounds, Shoots: Right

Stanley Cup Champion (1942)
Stanley Cup Finalist (1938, 1939, 1940)
First All-Star Team Right Wing (1938, 1939)
Second All-Star Team Right Wing (1942)
Art Ross Trophy (1938)
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (1938)
Rocket Richard Trophy (1938)
Hockey Hall of Fame (1975)


Art Ross Trophy:
1937-38 *1st* (+3.85%)
1939-40 *T-4th*
1940-41 *T-2nd* (-29.03%)

Calder Trophy:
1936-37 *2nd*

Hart Trophy:
1937-38 *T-4th*

Lady Bing Trophy:
1936-37 *2nd* (-56.9%)
1937-38 *1st* (+23.38%)
1939-40 *4th*
1940-41 *2nd*
1941-42 *2nd* (-44%)


Notes:

During all his career, it seemed nothing Drillon could do was enough as he was always compared to Conacher, a player he was always compared too.
After one year with the Montreal Canadiens, his NHL career would be cut short due to World War II.


Quotes:

"I don't think there's a player in hockey who can shoot the puck more accurately, even if you leave him an opening the size of the puck, he'll hit it every time." - Turk Broda
"I spent ten years playing in the slot before anyone invented a name for it," - Gordie Drillon


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http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?type=Player&mem=P197503&list=ByName#photo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordie_Drillon
http://mapleleafslegends.blogspot.com/2006/05/gord-drillon.html

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chaosrevolver
04-12-2008, 10:32 PM
JFF IS ON THE CLOCK!!!!!!

John Flyers Fan
04-12-2008, 10:40 PM
The Philadelphia Flyers select - D - Ulf Samuleson. Can someone PM whoever is up next, i'm on my cell.

pitseleh
04-12-2008, 10:45 PM
The Philadelphia Flyers select - D - Ulf Samuleson. Can someone PM whoever is up next, i'm on my cell.

Done.

By the way, love the Leswick pick.

Leaf Lander
04-12-2008, 10:48 PM
Ill do alphabetical listing here:

Alphabetical Order



Draft List

Round five


110 Victoria Salmon Kings Sid Abel C/LW
279 Dallas Freeze Daniel Alfredsson RW
151 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Glenn Anderson RW
240 Montreal Maroons Dave Andreychuk LW
62. reckoning - Ottawa 67's - Syl Apps Sr, C.
171 Toronto Maple Leafs George Armstrong RW

275 Kingston RMC Paladins Irvine "Ace" Bailey RW
175 Springfield Isotopes Bill Barber LW
216 Ottawa Silver Seven Tom Barrasso G
185 Detroit Red Wings Marty Barry C
79.Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Springfield Isotopes - Andy Bathgate, RW.
308 Kingston RMC Paladins Bobby Bauer RW
235 Toronto Maple Leafs Bobby Baun D
145 Montreal Maroons Ed Belfour G
9. Nalyd Psycho & FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jean Beliveau, C.
60. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Clint Benedict, G.
127 Detroit Falcons Doug Bentley C/LW
84.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons - Max Bentley, C.
107. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs-- Rob Blake D
88.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven - Toe Blake, LW.
280 Ottawa Silver Seven Ralph Backstrom C
297 Ottawa Silver Seven Brian Bellows RW
311 St Louis Eagles Hector "Toe" Blake Coach
255 Lada Togliatti Vsevolod Bobrov LW
234 Dallas Freeze Leo Boivin D
299 Toronto Maple Leafs Peter Bondra RW
19.Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings - Mike Bossy, RW
87.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons - Émile Bouchard, D.
116 Nanaimo Clippers Frank Boucher C
130 Detroit Falcons George Boucher D
12.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -Raymond Bourque, D.
61. Pwnasaurus and JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts - Johnny Bower, G.
286 Trail Smoke Eaters Scotty Bowman Coach
135 Buffalo Bisons Carl Brewer D
73. Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons - Frank Brimsek, G
197 Victoria Salmon Kings Rod Brind'Amour C
42. cottonking - Dallas Freeze - Turk Broda, G.
22.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Martin Brodeur, G.
164 Kansas City Scouts Harry Broadbent RW
92.God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers - Johnny Bucyk, LW.
147 Minnesota Fighting Saints Pavel Bure RW






222 Trail Smoke Eaters Harry Cameron D
157 Detroit Falcons Guy Carbonneau C
186 Vancouver Millionaires Randy Carlyle D
264 Springfield Isotopes Zdeno Chara D
231 Glace Bay Miners Wayne Cashman LW
319 Montreal Wanderers Lorne Chabot G
220 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Gerry Cheevers G
39. Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Chris Chelios, D.
193 Quebec Nordiques Dino Ciccerelli RW
67. reckoning - Ottawa 67's - King Clancy, D.
38. Bring Back Bucky - Donair City Loch Ness Monsters - Dit Clapper, D.
23.pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Bobby Clarke, C.
63. nikjr - Lada Togliatti - Sprague Cleghorn, D.
40. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees - Paul Coffey,D.
59. McLovin - Montreal Maroons - Charlie Conacher, RW.
100. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees--Lionel Conacher D
143 Winnipeg Jets Roy Conacher LW
66. nikjr - Lada Togliatti - Bill Cook, RW.
246 Inglewood Jacks Bun Cook LW
182 Inglewood Jacks Art Coulter D
115 Detroit Red Wings Yvan Cournoyer RW
111 Calgary Stampeders Bill Cowley C/LW
304 Montreal Maroons Jack Crawford D

322 Montreal Wanderers Vincent Damphousse C
241 Calgary Stampeders Jack Darragh RW
156 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Hap Day D
122 Buffalo Bisons Alex Delvecchio C/LW
138 St. Louis Eagles Cy Denneny LW
173 Montreal Wanderers Eric Desjardins D
268 Kootenay Ice Cecil Dillon RW
102. Bring Back Bucky - Donair City Loch Ness Monsters--Marcel Dionne C
321 Detroit Falcons Gordie Drillon RW
29.Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Springfield Isotopes - Ken Dryden, G.
298 Dallas Freeze Dick Duff LW
237 Nanaimo Clippers Woody Dumart LW
35. shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -Bill Durnan, G.
206 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Cecil "Babe" Dye RW

214 Toronto Maple Leafs Patrik Elias LW
26.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Phil Esposito, C.
200 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Tony Esposito G
258 Lada Togliatti Bernie Federko C
81.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks - Sergei Fedorov, C.
33. pitseleh - Nanaimo Clippers - Slava Fetisov, D.
126 Ottawa 67's Anatoli Firsov LW
140 Kootenay Ice Fern Flaman D
251 Philadelphia Flyers Theoren Fleury RW
180 Regina Pats Adam Foote D
71. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Peter Forsberg, C.
305 Kansas City Scouts Frank Foyston C
112 Montreal Maroons Ron Francis C
69. VanIslander&Frightened Inmate #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins - Grant Fuhr, G.

82.Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings - Bill Gadsby, D
103. Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners --Bob Gainey RW
64. Jungosi & LAXAttack - Quebec Nordiques - Chuck Gardiner, G.
272 Calgary Stampeders Herb Gardiner D
249 Minnesota Fighting Saints Danny Gare RW
176 Montreal Maroons Mike Gartner RW
45. LSports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers - Bernie 'Boom Boom' Geoffrion, RW
187 Philadelphia Flyers Eddie Gerard D/LW
267 Inglewood Jacks Ed Giacomin G
202 St Louis Eagles Rod Gilbert RW
179 Detroit Red Wings Clark Gillies LW
139 Philadelphia Flyers Doug Gilmour C
244 Regina Pats Bob Goldham D
263 Vancouver Millionaires Sergei Gonchar D
119 St. Louis Eagles Ebbie Goodfellow C/D
161 Montreal Wanderers Michel Goulet LW
232 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Butch Goring C
256 Quebec Nordiques Ted Green D
2. nikjr - Lada Togliatti - Wayne Gretzky, C.
320 Detroit Falcons Silas Griffis D

80.Roger's P & MSEagles - Calgary Stampders - George Hainsworth, G.
27.Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters - Glenn Hall, G.
273 Montreal Maroons Joe Hall D
4. cottonking - Dallas Freeze - Doug Harvey, D.
217 Kootenay Ice Terry Harper D
14.Spitfire11 - Detroit Red Wings - Dominik Hasek, G.
223 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Derian Hatcher D
133 Philadelphia Flyers Dale Hawerchuk C/LW
295 Glace Bay Miners Anders Hedberg RW
276 Nanaimo Clippers Ott Heller D
177 Detroit Falcons Bryan Hextall, Sr. RW
301 Nanaimo Clippers Lionel Hitchman D
227 Trail Smoke Eaters Ken Hodge RW
76.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets - Jiri Holecek, G.
316 Minnesota Fighting Saints Bobby Holik C/LW
287 Winnipeg Jets William "Flash" Hollett D
212 Nanaimo Clippers Red Horner D
47. Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts - Tim Horton, D.
159 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Phil Housley D
3. reckoning - Ottawa 67's - Gordie Howe, RW
113 Lada Togliatti Mark Howe LW/D
238 Minnesota Fighting Saints Syd Howe C/LW
120 Victoria Salmon Kings Harry Howell D
8. NatetGreat and Chaos Revolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex - Bobby Hull, LW.
85.monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Brett Hull, RW.
323 Ottawa 67's Dale Hunter C

142 Detroit Red Wings Jarome Iginla RW

108 Buffalo Bisons Harvey "Busher" Jackson LW
41. Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven - Jaromir Jagr, RW.
290 Winnipeg Jets Doug Jarvis C
99. shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters--Aurel Joliat C
224 Montreal Wanderers Ernie Johnson D
129 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Ching Johnson D
106. cottonking - Dallas Freeze-- Tom Johnson D

250 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Paul Kariya LW
128 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Alexei Kasatonov D
318 Ottawa 67's Gordon "Duke" Keats C
20.Eagle Belfour - Detroit Falcons - Red Kelly D
53. Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice - Valeri Kharlamov, LW.
86.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ted Kennedy, C.
104. Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees-- Dave Keon C
207 Winnipeg Jets Tim Kerr RW
315 Inglewood Jacks Joe Klukay LW
141 Regina Pats Vladimir Konstantinov D
51. Nate t Great & Chaosrevolver - Montreal Sarasaurusrex - Jari Kurri, RW

4.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles - Elmer Lach, C
11.arrbez - Inglewood Jacks Guy Lafleur, RW
152 Ottawa Silver Seven Pat LaFontaine C
55. Lapierre Sports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers - Newsy Lalonde, C.
94.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters -Jacques Laperriere D
219 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Dave Langevin D
83.N Psycho & FissionFire- Minnesota Fighting Saints - Rod Langway, D.
90.Transplanted Caper - Glace Bay Miners - Guy Lapointe, D.
163 Trail Smoke Eaters Igor Larionov C
229 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Steve Larmer RW
265 Victoria Salmon Kings Reggie Leach RW
248 Kingston RMC Paladins John Leclair LW
54. arbezz - Inglewood Jacks - Brian Leetch, D.
215 Dallas Freeze Jere Lehtinen LW
165 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Jacques Lemaire C
190 Ottawa 67's Claude Lemieux RW
5. VanIslander&F I #2 - Kingston RMC Paladins - Mario Lemieux C
325 Kingston RMC Paladins Tony Leswick RW
289 Detroit Red Wings Herbie Lewis LW
24.Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven - Nik Lidstrom, D.
303 Calgary Stampeders Trevor Linden C/RW
98. Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters--Eric Lindros C
18.Rogers Pancreas&M Eagles - Calgary Stampeders - Ted Lindsay, LW
213 Buffalo Bisons Ed Litzenberger C/RW
228 St. Catharines Teepees Kevin Lowe D
293 Quebec Nordiques Craig Ludwig D
196 Lada Togliatti Harry Lumley G
245 Kootenay Ice Vladimir Lutchenko D

49. Roger's Pancreas & MiSEagles - Calgary Stampeders - Al MacInnis, D.
313 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Mickey MacKay C
31.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters - Frank Mahovlich, LW
199 Vancouver Millionaires Pete Mahovlich C/LW
109 Nanaimo Clippers Sergei Makarov RW
68.LapierreSports & MXD - Montreal Wanderers - Joe Malone, C/LW.
205 Nanaimo Clippers Aleksandr Maltsev RW
153 Springfield Isotopes Sylvio Mantha D
307 Lada Togliatti Don Marcotte LW
211 Minnesota Fighting Saints Rick Martin LW
239 Calgary Stampeders Brad McCrimmon D
148 Regina Pats Lanny McDonald RW
16.Pwnasaurus & JimEIV - Kansas City Scouts - Mark Messier, C.
302 Minnesota Fighting Saints Nick Metz LW
194 Lada Togliatti Rick Middleton RW
89.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice - Boris Mikhailov, RW.
21.pappyline - Buffalo Bisons - Stan Mikita, C.
155 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Mike Modano C
226 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Alexander Mogilny RW
253 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Doug Mohns D/LW
65. Jungosi LAXAttack - Quebec Nordiques - Dickie Moore, LW.
17.McLovin - Montreal Maroons - Howie Morenz, C., D.
252 Vancouver Millionaires Ken Morrow D
285 St. Catharines Teepees Bill Mosienko RW
243 Detroit Red Wings Gus Mortson D
236 Vancouver Millionaires Joe Mullen RW
125 Kingston RMC Paladins Larry Murphy D
333 Regina Pats Kirk Muller C
350 Trail Smoke Eaters Rick MacLeish C
360 Buffalo Bisons Don Marshall C/LW
364 Buffalo Bisons Fleming Mackell C/LW
367 Ottawa 67's Keith Magnuson D
377 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Craig MacTavish C
424 Springfield Isotopes John MacLean RW
442 Vancouver Millionaires Kirk Maltby LW
480 Detroit Falcons Frank McGee C
516 Winnipeg Jets Andy Moog G
517 Philadelphia Flyers Randy McKay RW
513 Quebec Nordiques Bucko McDonald D
496 Montreal Maroons Don McKenney LW
477 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Mike McPhee LW
415 Brooklyn Yawning Otters John Madden C
400 Kansas City Scouts Troy Murray C
382 Ottawa 67's Vladimir Martinec RW

221 St. Catharines Teepees Markus Naslund RW/LW
149 Buffalo Bisons Vaclav Nedomansky RW
101. God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers--Cam Neely RW
72. Spitfire - Detroit Red Wings - Scott Neidermeyer, D.
198 Philadelphia Flyers Joe Nieuwendyk C
136 Calgary Stampeders Frank Nighbor C
296 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Bobby Nystrom RW

306 Winnipeg Jets Buddy O'Connor C
312 Victoria Salmon Kings Terry O'Reilly RW
117 Quebec Nordiques Adam Oates C
208 Detroit Falcons Bert Olmstead LW
1. Jungosi & LAXAttack -Quebec Nordiques - Bobby Orr D
291 Trail Smoke Eaters Joel Otto C

48. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers - Bernie Parent, G.
36. Rick Middleton & Sturminator - Sprinfield Isotopes - Brad Park, D.
218 Glace Bay Miners Marty Pavelich LW
181 Kootenay Ice Vladimir Petrov C
52. seventieslord - Regina Pats - Gilbert Perreault, C
44. pappyline - Buffalo Bisons - Pierre Pilote, D.
225 Montreal Wanderers Didier Pitre D/RW
13.seventieslord - Regina Pats - Jacques Plante, G.
274 Kansas City Scouts Frantisek Pospisil D
15.vcl and Willie for Captain - Winnipeg Jets - Denis Potvin, D.
132 Kansas City Scouts Walter "Babe" Pratt D
168 Quebec Nordiques Joe Primeau C
75.JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers - Chris Pronger, D.
114 Winnipeg Jets Marcel Pronovost D
169 Ottawa Silver Seven Brian Propp LW
178 Winnipeg Jets Claude Provost RW
292 St. Catharines Teepees Bob Pulford C/LW

97. BlueBleeder - St. Louis Eagles--Bill Quackenbush D

174 Minnesota Fighting Saints Alexander Ragulin D
254 Ottawa 67's Craig Ramsay LW
314 Vancouver Millionaires Mike Ramsey D
160 Montreal Wanderers Jean Ratelle C
277 Buffalo Bisons Chuck Rayner G
257 Quebec Nordiques Mark Recchi RW
123 Kingston RMC Paladins Ken Reardon D
58. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Henri Richard, C.
10.Blue Bleeder - St Louis Eagles - Maurice Richard, RW
309 Kootenay Ice Mike Richter G
278 Toronto Maple Leafs Gary Roberts LW
28.God Bless C & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers - Larry Robinson, D.
170 Dallas Freeze Luc Robitaille LW
310 Inglewood Jacks Jeremy Roenick C
158 Trail Smoke Eaters Arthur Ross D
230 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Reijo Routsalainen D
7. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Patrick Roy, G.

50. vcl & WillieforCaptain - Winnipeg Jets - Joe Sakic, C.
70. McLovin - Montreal Maroons - Borje Salming, D.
326 Philadelphia Flyers Ulf Samuelsson D
25.Papershoes & Johnny O - St. Catharines TeePees - Terry Sawchuk, G.
189 Victoria Salmon Kings Denis Savard C
77.seventieslord - Regina Pats - Serge Savard, D.
37. God Bless Canada & raleh - Ottawa RCAF Flyers - Milt Schmidt, C.
201 St. Catharines Teepees David "Sweeney" Schriner LW
46. Nalyd Psycho& FissionFire - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Earl Seibert, D.
146 Springfield Isotopes Teemu Selanne RW
95.Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters -Brendan Shanahan RW
144 Kansas City Scouts Steve Shutt LW
134 Inglewood Jacks Albert "Babe" Siebert LW/D
283 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Charlie Simmer LW
137 St. Catharines Teepees Darryl Sittler C
6. JohnFlyersFan - Philadelphia Flyers - Eddie Shore, D.
56. Hedberg - Victoria Salmon Kings - Billy Smith, G.
300 Springfield Isotopes Bobby Smith C
203 Inglewood Jacks Hooley Smith C
261 Kingston RMC Paladins Sid Smith LW
192 Quebec Nordiques Nikolai Sologubov D
167 Glace Bay Miners Allan Stanley D
183 St. Louis Eagles Pat Stapleton D
91.BB Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters - Peter Stastny, C.
262 Philadelphia Flyers Kevin Stevens LW
43. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scott Stevens, D.
78. Nate the Great & chaosr - Montreal Saraurusrex - Jack Stewart, D.
118 Inglewood Jacks Nels Stewart C
242 Springfield Isotopes Hod Stuart D
284 Ottawa 67's Jan Suchy D
150 Toronto Maple Leafs Mats Sundin C
209 Montreal Maroons Gary Suter D
210 Calgary Stampeders Brent Sutter C
266 St Louis Eagles Brian Sutter LW

247 Montreal Wanderers Jean-Guy Talbot D
57. Spitfire - Detroit Red Wings -Cyclone Taylor.
162 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Dave Taylor RW
260 Kansas City Scouts Paul Thompson LW
96.BlueBleeder - St. Louis Eagles--Tiny Thompson G
195 Ottawa 67's Jimmy Thomson D
233 Ottawa Silver Seven Joe Thornton C
166 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Esa Tikkanen LW
271 Springfield Isotopes Walt Tkaczuk C
204 Calgary Stampeders Rick Tocchet RW
191 Lada Togliatti John Tonelli LW
105. Cup2008SensRule - Ottawa Silver Seven-- JC TremblayD
34. Vakar Lajos - Brooklyn Yawning Otters - Vladislav Tretiak, G.
30.shawnmullin - Trail Smoke Eaters - Bryan Trottier, C.

121 Springfield Isotopes Norm Ullman C

288 Montreal Wanderers Rogatien Vachon G
93.Evil Sather - Kootenay Ice -Valeri Vasiliev
270 Detroit Red Wings Elmer Vasko D
131 Ottawa 67's Georges Vezina G

317 Detroit Falcons Jack Walker LW
324 Kansas City Scouts Ken Wharram RW
281 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Cy Wentworth D
259 Detroit Falcons Ed Westfall RW
172 Buffalo Bisons Bill White D
124 Kingston RMC Paladins Doug Wilson D
154 Glace Bay Miners Lorne "Gump" Worsley G

188 Regina Pats Aleksandr Yakushev LW
32.VanIslander & FI#2 - Kingston RMC Paladins - Steve Yzerman, C.

184 Victoria Salmon Kings Sergei Zubov D


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326 Philadelphia Flyers Ulf Samuelsson D


327 Vancouver Millionaires Alexei Kovalev RW
328 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Stefan Persson D
329 Nanaimo Clippers Reg Noble LW/D
330 St. Louis Eagles Rob Ramage D
331 Philadelphia Flyers Michael Peca C
332 Kootenay Ice Don Luce C

334 Detroit Red Wings Tommy Phillips RW/LW
335 Winnipeg Jets Alexander Ovechkin LW
336 Kansas City Scouts Barclay Plager D
337 Montreal Maroons Wendel Clark LW
338 Calgary Stampeders Keith Primeau C
339 Minnesota Fighting Saints Adam Graves LW
340 Regina Pats Ken Linseman C
341 Buffalo Bisons Neil Colville C/D
342 Toronto Maple Leafs Al Iafrate D
343 Dallas Freeze John Ferguson LW
344 Ottawa Silver Seven Dany Heatley LW
345 Buffalo Bisons Tod Sloan C
346 Glace Bay Miners Reed Larson D
347 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Kent Nilsson C
348 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Bill Barilko D
349 St. Catharines Teepees Lennart Svedburg D

351 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Sidney Crosby C
352 Lada Togliatti Jim Schoenfeld D
353 Victoria Salmon Kings Dirk Graham RW
354 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Craig Hartsburg D
355 Trail Smoke Eaters Dean Prentice LW
356 St. Catharines Teepees Al Arbour Coach
357 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Bobby Rousseau RW
358 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Paul Reinhart D
359 Glace Bay Miners Ron Ellis RW

361 Ottawa Silver Seven Chris Phillips D
362 Dallas Freeze Jacques Lemaire Coach
363 Toronto Maple Leafs Rick Vaive RW

365 Regina Pats Pat Verbeek RW
366 Minnesota Fighting Saints Harry "Hap" Holmes G

368 Montreal Maroons Derek Sanderson C
369 Kansas City Scouts Alf Smith RW
370 Winnipeg Jets Clarence "Taffy" Abel D
371 Detroit Red Wings Steve Kasper C
372 Regina Pats Vincent Lecavalier C
373 Kootenay Ice Cooney Weiland C
374 Inglewood Jacks Jimmy Watson D
375 St. Louis Eagles Ulf Nilsson C
376 Victoria Salmon Kings Vic Hadfield LW

378 Vancouver Millionaires Valeri Kamensky LW
379 Philadelphia Flyers Dave Poulin C/LW
380 Minnesota Fighting Saints Edward Ivanov D
381 Dallas Freeze Neal Broten C

383 Lada Togliatti James Patrick D
384 Quebec Nordiques Bob Bourne C
385 Quebec Nordiques Bernie Nicholls C
386 Detroit Red Wings Phil Watson C/RW
387 Ottawa 67's Barry Beck D
388 Lada Togliatti Tommy Ivan Coach
389 Kingston RMC Paladins Jim Neilson D
390 Montreal Maroons Fred Shero Coach
391 Vancouver Millionaires Stan Smyl RW
392 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Lester Patrick Coach
393 Victoria Salmon Kings Larry Aurie RW
394 St. Louis Eagles Edgar Laprade C
395 Inglewood Jacks Hap Day Coach
396 Kootenay Ice Yvon Lambert LW
397 Regina Pats Steve Duchesne D
398 Montreal Wanderers Lester Patrick D
399 Winnipeg Jets J.P. Parise LW

401 Philadelphia Flyers Ryan Smyth LW
402 Calgary Stampeders Ed Van Impe D
403 Minnesota Fighting Saints Carol Vadnais D
404 Nanaimo Clippers Jiri Holik
405 Buffalo Bisons Dick Irvin Coach
406 Toronto Maple Leafs Punch Imlach Coach
407 Dallas Freeze Ken Daneyko D
408 Ottawa Silver Seven Steve Smith D
409 Springfield Isotopes Baldy Northcutt LW
410 Glace Bay Miners Doug Riseborough C
411 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Wade Redden D
412 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Tommy Gorman Coach
413 St. Catharines Teepees Kris Draper C
414 Trail Smoke Eaters Keith Tkachuk C/LW

416 Winnipeg Jets Owen Nolan RW
417 Montreal Wanderers Frank Finnigan RW
418 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Martin Gelinas LW
419 Trail Smoke Eaters Leo Reise Jr. D
420 St. Catharines TeePees Mike Foligno RW
421 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Shayne Corson LW
422 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Bob Probert LW
423 Glace Bay Miners Mario Tremblay RW

425 Ottawa Silver Seven Brian Rafalski D
426 Dallas Freeze Charlie Huddy D
427 Toronto Maple Leafs Bob Nevin RW
428 Buffalo Bisons Orland Kurtenbach C
429 Nanaimo Clippers Jack Adams Coach
430 Regina Pats Metro Prystai C
431 Calgary Stampeders Mark Tinordi D
432 Montreal Maroons Behn Wilson D
433 Kansas City Scouts Ross Lonsberry LW
434 Detroit Red Wings Wally Stanowski D
435 Detroit Red Wings Vladimir Shadrin C
436 Nanaimo Clippers Lars-Erik Sjoberg D
437 Kootenay Ice Dennis Hull LW
438 Inglewood Jacks Pit Lepine C
439 St. Louis Eagles Floyd Curry RW
440 Victoria Salmon Kings Teppo Numminen D
441 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Petr Svoboda D

443 Philadelphia Flyers Mike Keane RW
444 Kingston RMC Paladins Mike Vernon G
445 Calgary Stampeders Al Secord LW
446 Montreal Wanderers Ken Mosdell C
447 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Wayne Merrick C
448 Quebec Nordiques Johnny Gottselig LW
449 Quebec Nordiques Alex Connell G
450 Lada Togliatti Phil Goyette C
451 Ottawa 67's Roger Crozier G
452 Quebec Nordiques Jacques Demers Coach
453 Victoria Salmon Kings Jiri Bubla D
454 Philadelphia Flyers Ilya Kovalchuk LW
455 Vancouver Millionaires Pierre Larouche C
456 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Duane Sutter RW
457 Victoria Salmon Kings Chris Drury C
458 St Louis Eagles Scott Mellanby RW
459 Inglewood Jacks Tommy Anderson LW/D
460 Kootenay Ice Ron Greschner D
461 Regina Pats Bob Johnson Coach
462 Detroit Red Wings Gilles Tremblay LW
463 Detroit Red Wings Eric Nesterenko RW
464 Kansas City Scouts Pete Green Coach
465 Montreal Maroons Wilf Paiement RW
466 Calgary Stampeders Steve Thomas RW/LW
467 Minnesota Fighting Saints Pat Burns Coach
468 Nanaimo Clippers Red Dutton D
469 Springfield Isotopes Mike Keenan Coach

470 Toronto Maple Leafs Murray Oliver C
471 Dallas Freeze Jean Pronovost RW
472 Ottawa Silver Seven Jason Spezza C
473 Springfield Isotopes Hec Kilrea LW
474 Glace Bay Miners Ken Hitchcock Coach
475 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Ales Hemsky RW
476 Ottawa RCAF Flyers Glen Skov C

478 Trail Smoke Eaters Martin St. Louis RW
479 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Sven "Tumba" Johansson C
481 Montreal Wanderers Cecil Hart Coach
482 Winnipeg Jets Calle Johansson D
483 Trail Smoke Eaters Dollard St. Laurent D
484 St. Catharines TeePees Rene Robert RW
485 St. Catharines TeePees Gordon Roberts LW
486 Donair City Loch Ness Monsters Dave Semenko LW
487 Glace Bay Miners Jerry Korab D
488 Springfield Isotopes Dave Burrows D
489 Ottawa Silver Seven Alex Smith D
490 Dallas Freeze Brian Skrudland C
491 Toronto Maple Leafs Curtis Joseph G
492 Buffalo Bisons Jerry Toppazzini RW
493 Nanaimo Clippers Vyacheslav Starshinov C
494 Minnesota Fighting Saints Dallas Smith D
495 Calgary Stampeders Phil Russell D
497 Kansas City Scouts Gerard Gallant LW
498 Brooklyn Yawning Otters Eddie Shack RW
499 Detroit Falcons Vitaly Davydov D
500 Regina Pats Marian Hossa RW
501 Kootenay Ice Kevin Dineen RW
502 Inglewood Jacks Odie Cleghorn RW
503 St. Louis Eagles Marcel Bonin LW
504 Victoria Salmon Kings Harry Sinden Coach
505 Montreal Sarasaurusrex Kevin Hatcher D
506 Vancouver Millionaires Robert Svehla D
507 Philadelphia Flyers Don Cherry Coach
508 Philadelphia Flyers Mattias Norstrom D
509 Winnipeg Jets Glen Sather Coach
510 Ottawa 67's Bengt-Ake Gustafsson RW
511 Lada Togliatti Bill Hajt D
512 Quebec Nordiques Gary Dornhoefer RW

514 Lada Togliatti John Vanbiesbrouck G
515 Ottawa 67's Gaye Stewart RW

518 Philadelphia Flyers Andre Dupont D


282 Transplanted Caper Glace Bay Miners SKIPPED
294 Bring Back Bucky Donair City Loch Ness Monsters SKIPPED

pitseleh
04-13-2008, 12:17 AM
I have a conditional deal in place with Hedberg if the player I want is available at his next pick. The proposed deal is 329 and 649 for 353 and 557. I just wanted to post this so he can confirm it so that I don't hold things up if the player I want is still around and I'm in bed when his pick comes up. Hedberg can confirm this if he's around.

If he doesn't come back before I go to bed I'll post the PM and forward my pick to someone.

pitseleh
04-13-2008, 02:06 AM
I'm going to bed soon, so here's the PM:

Hey,

I'm looking to trade up for a particular player. If he's still available when your pick comes up, would you be interested in something like 329 and 649 for 353 and 557?

I would do that.

Hopefully this is ok.

Anyone going to be up for a while and want to take my pick? monster_bertuzzi's time is up in less than 2 hours (since he's on a 5 hour clock) and I'm not sure if chaosrevolver sent a list out.

seventieslord
04-13-2008, 02:26 AM
I'm up in 7 picks and might be unavailable for a while. who can I PM my pick to? (very quickly!)

seventieslord
04-13-2008, 02:28 AM
This thread's not exactly jumping right now. Can someone please PM spitfire when it is my turn? I will send him a list. I don't see a risk there as he hasn't made any trades in the whole draft so he won't end up ahead of me.

Sturminator
04-13-2008, 03:33 AM
I like the Griffis pick, Eagle. You needed someone with speed next to Buck Boucher.

Hedberg
04-13-2008, 03:36 AM
I have a conditional deal in place with Hedberg if the player I want is available at his next pick. The proposed deal is 329 and 649 for 353 and 557. I just wanted to post this so he can confirm it so that I don't hold things up if the player I want is still around and I'm in bed when his pick comes up. Hedberg can confirm this if he's around.

If he doesn't come back before I go to bed I'll post the PM and forward my pick to someone.

Confirmed

Sturminator
04-13-2008, 04:20 AM
Poking around hockeydb this morning, I just that Ott Heller went 3-0-13 in the 1933 playoffs. My word.

Feats of Bergian proportions aside, he actually was a very solid puckmover for those Rangers.

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 05:47 AM
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"Tough Tony" Leswick

Very nice pick.

One of the many plans I had for my third line was a Leswick-Carbonneau-Gare trio.

Leswick gives you toughness, defensive abilities and some playmaking.


I like the Griffis pick, Eagle. You needed someone with speed next to Buck Boucher.

Thanks! Let just say I had no backup plan if Griffis was gone. Big, fast and skilled, I could not ask more from a fourth defenseman.

John Flyers Fan
04-13-2008, 06:00 AM
bertuzzi's time is up

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 10:06 AM
Woohoo, 119 picks before my next selection!

FissionFire
04-13-2008, 10:45 AM
Pick 327, Vancouver Millionaires (monster_bertuzzi) timer expired at 3:40AM and was skipped. His timer for all future picks has been reduced to 4 hours.

Pick 328, Montreal Sarasaurusrex (Nate the Great & chaosrevolver) timer expired at 9:40AM EST and was skipped. Their timer for all future picks has been reduced to 5 hours.

Pick 329, Nanaimo Clippers (pitseleh) is now on the clock until 3:40PM EST.

pappyline
04-13-2008, 10:46 AM
I have Pitseleh's # 329 pick- LW Reg Noble

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 10:52 AM
Hey, just had an AMAZING idea to reduce times between picks! How about when you're close to make your selection but you know you won't be present ... how about you send a shortlist of players to a fellow GM??? That way even if you're not present when your time come someone will be able to make a selection for yourself!!!








:sarcasm:

arrbez
04-13-2008, 10:58 AM
Hey, just had an AMAZING idea to reduce times between picks! How about when you're close to make your selection but you know you won't be present ... how about you send a shortlist of players to a fellow GM??? That way even if you're not present when your time come someone will be able to make a selection for yourself!!!








:sarcasm:

Not bad, not bad. Although some of our GM's have decided to take the less traditional route, by missing so many picks that their clock will become inconsequential anyways.

pitseleh
04-13-2008, 11:04 AM
Thanks for announcing my pick pappy.

Noble gives us a gritty, defensively responsible, goal scoring threat to play with Boucher and Makarov. He doesn't bring the same all around game as Dumart, but he was a stronger offensive player. From 1917-1922 he was fourth in the NHL in goals behind Lalonde, Malone, and Denneny. His numbers after being traded to the Maroons don't look particularly impressive, but that's because he actually moved back to play defense for the second half of his career.

Noble had some problems with off-ice issues but was also known as a great leader. On a team with good leaders, the off-ice stuff should be less of an issue. This allows us to play Dumart with Clarke and Maltsev as a line that can play against any line effectively at either end of the ice.

FissionFire
04-13-2008, 11:04 AM
I've gotten in touch with Bring Back Bucky and his abscense has been due to difficulties in connecting from his hotel. He's going to try to find a co-GM but if not will be back home on Tuesday. Below is a copy of our PM's.

I noticed that you've logged in a couple times since your pick was skipped, but logged off without making a selection. Are you still interested in being the GM for your team or would you prefer that we find a replacement? Please let me know ASAP either way.


Hi FF,I'm in a hotel in Toronto since Friday, this is the first time I've managed to connect, tried from a sony store yesterday and got on but kept booting off.

Unexpected circumstance, sorry to be a pain in the rear. I'll find someone to co-gm with me when I get back tues.

Roger's Pancreas*
04-13-2008, 11:05 AM
These past few days have been effing brutal.

Egblad
04-13-2008, 11:07 AM
The Montreal Sarasaurusrex are proud to select swede defense man Stefan Persson

Thank you

pitseleh
04-13-2008, 11:10 AM
The Montreal Sarasaurusrex are proud to select swede defense man Stefan Persson

Thank you

Good idea. Your defense really needed a solid puck mover.

FissionFire
04-13-2008, 11:16 AM
Here is an idea/suggestion on the issue of sending lists:

I know many people have trouble finding out who to send their list to at times. You should continue to send your list to anyone who says they will be online to make your selection. Additionally, you should send your list to the GM who is picking immediately after you. If for some reason the first person you sent a list to is unable to make the pick and your timer expires, I will not penalize the team with a timer reduction if next team up posts their pick late. This is because technically you didn't hold the draft up since the team picking behind you wasn't online to select anyhow until after your timer was up and they post your pick. Of course, this only applies if the team following you makes the pick themselves. If they sent a list to someone online and had the pick made for them normal timer penalties still apply.

Egblad
04-13-2008, 11:16 AM
Good idea. Your defense really needed a solid puck mover.

Yes, Chaos and I felt thus far only selecting three defense men, all of which fantastic in their own end but not exactly ones to start up the rush. We both felt that selecting a puck moving dman would be a smart idea.

Bring Back Bucky
04-13-2008, 11:26 AM
The Donair City Shizzle Water Horses will use our missed pick for lw Mats Naslund.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 11:29 AM
Guys im really sorry, my computer ****ed up last night and I couldnt get it on. Luckily I talked to Nate before he went to bed. Thanks buddy.

EDIT: Though I was never PM'ed.;)

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 11:49 AM
Stefan Persson (1977-1986)

http://www.sportsecyclopedia.com/nhl/nyi/Perssonisles.jpg
From Legends of Hockey:
At the World Junior Championship held in December 1999 and January 2000 in Umeo and Skelleftea, Sweden, a smiling, middle-aged man could often be seen in the Swedish camp. The Junior Tre Kronor general manager, Stefan Persson, was trying to give back to hockey what hockey had given to him. A brilliant defenseman during the 1980s, Persson had indeed been given much.

Persson was with the NHL's New York Islanders for four Stanley Cup wins. Few Canadians or Americans can boast of this kind of success.

But Persson's record is also remarkable because those wins were in four successive years: 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1983. He also set another record with the Islanders, playing more games than any other Swedish player.

During nine seasons with the Islanders, including playoffs, Persson played in 724 games, scored 59 goals and made 367 scoring passes. He sent the four diamond rings he received for the four Stanley Cup wins to his father, Gosta, in the northern city of Pitea, where he'd begun his hockey career.

Persson was born on December 22, 1954, and made his debut as a defenseman with Pitea IF. In 1973 he joined Brynas. While with Brynas, he received his first national championship silver medal and two national championship gold medals, in 1976 and 1977. Then he went overseas to play in the NHL. Back home after his NHL career ended, Persson joined Sweden's big-league Boras HS and was later given an administrative position with the team. After that he was asked to become the national junior team's general manager.



NHL Regular Season Statistics
GM: 622
G: 52
A: 317
P: 369
PIM: 574
+/-: +176 (Only one season was he a minus ---> 1986 he was -3)

NHL Playoff Statistics
GM: 102
G: 7
A: 50
P: 57
PIM: 69

NHL Awards/Recognitions/Accomplishments
Lord Stanley's Cup (1980, 1981, 1982, 1983)
**Could have made a case for Persson to win the Conn Smythe in 1980 (5 Goals, 10 Assists) or in 1982 (1 Goal, 14 Assists).


Overall, Persson not only is a great defenseman during the season but he also could really step it up in the playoffs for his team.

John Flyers Fan
04-13-2008, 12:21 PM
The Montreal Sarasaurusrex are proud to select swede defense man Stefan Persson

Thank you

Excellent pick. I've had him a few times. Always perplexed that he goes so much later than Morrow, when I believe that Persson was the better defenseman.

John Flyers Fan
04-13-2008, 12:22 PM
The Donair City Shizzle Water Horses will use our missed pick for lw Mats Naslund.

Another very good selection.

Sturminator
04-13-2008, 12:32 PM
I also agree that Persson was a better overall defenseman than Morrow. Not as tough or as reliable in his own end, but certainly not bad and he had a lot more hand skill. A very underrated part of those great Islanders teams.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 01:21 PM
I've gotten in touch with Bring Back Bucky and his abscense has been due to difficulties in connecting from his hotel. He's going to try to find a co-GM but if not will be back home on Tuesday. Below is a copy of our PM's.

If that's the case, then IMO, BBB shouldn't have his clock reduced...not really much you can do under those circumstances.

pappyline
04-13-2008, 01:28 PM
If that's the case, then IMO, BBB shouldn't have his clock reduced...not really much you can do under those circumstances.
No internet cafes in downtown Toronto? I was able to connect from anywhere in France last year.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 01:47 PM
I thought I should probably mention this. I sent a trade proposal to m_b:

To Winnipeg:

327/378/698


To Vancouver:

335/370/690
__________________

He hasn't replied yet (obviously) but if he decides to accept, I want to keep things going, and I may not be here when he rolls around. Who can I send a list to?

No internet cafes in downtown Toronto? I was able to connect from anywhere in France last year.

Meh, I've only been to Toronto once. Maybe it's because he said he tried to log on but it kept booting him off; I was in a similar situation a couple weeks ago when I went to Mexico. I don't know, just I've had my time reduced in the past two drafts, and a couple of times it was due to unforseen circumstances like what BBB described.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 02:00 PM
I thought I should probably mention this. I sent a trade proposal to m_b:

To Winnipeg:

327/378/698


To Vancouver:

335/370/690
__________________

He hasn't replied yet (obviously) but if he decides to accept, I want to keep things going, and I may not be here when he rolls around. Who can I send a list to?



Meh, I've only been to Toronto once. Maybe it's because he said he tried to log on but it kept booting him off; I was in a similar situation a couple weeks ago when I went to Mexico. I don't know, just I've had my time reduced in the past two drafts, and a couple of times it was due to unforseen circumstances like what BBB described.Ill be here. So you can send your list to me if you choose to.

Yeah im dissapointed that my computer ****ed up last night. It wouldnt turn on and my dad took a look at it this morning (hes a computer technician) and I guess he fixed it for the mean time. Once again, I apologize for not making my pick on time and not being able to send it to anyone.

BlueBleeder
04-13-2008, 03:59 PM
St Louis selected D - Rob Ramage

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 04:06 PM
St Louis selected D - Rob RamageYeah very good pick. It was between him and Persson.

MXD
04-13-2008, 05:28 PM
St Louis selected D - Rob Ramage

That pick makes me think of another good player still left on the board (which is no way related to Ramage) . Not a fan of Ramage even if he does bring something at this point.

MXD
04-13-2008, 05:29 PM
The Donair City Shizzle Water Horses will use our missed pick for lw Mats Naslund.

Man, you should miss picks more often... I always have problems voting against a team with my childhood idol on.

Gibsons Finest
04-13-2008, 06:21 PM
Anyone gonna be around for 8 hours or so and able to take my list?

Pwnasaurus
04-13-2008, 06:23 PM
Anyone gonna be around for 8 hours or so and able to take my list?

I'll be around till about 1am ish eastern.

John Flyers Fan
04-13-2008, 06:33 PM
Philadelphib selects another big time playoff performer. The physical and speedy - C - Michael Peca

God Bless Canada
04-13-2008, 06:33 PM
I'll be around till about 1am ish eastern.
I'll be around to take lists as well.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 06:53 PM
Philadelphib selects another big time playoff performer. The physical and speedy - C - Michael PecaHaha we were hoping he would slip to our next pick but we doubted it largly. Very good pick.

monster_bertuzzi
04-13-2008, 07:06 PM
LW Mats Naslund.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 07:09 PM
LW Mats Naslund.

Gone. Bucky took him.

God Bless Canada
04-13-2008, 07:10 PM
LW Mats Naslund.
Gone. Bring Back Bucky picked him with his skipped pick.

monster_bertuzzi
04-13-2008, 07:12 PM
Alexei Kovalev then.

Diving Pokecheck*
04-13-2008, 07:23 PM
Alexei Kovalev then.
I think this is the highest he has been picked. He was in the MLD last time.

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 07:24 PM
I think this is the highest he has been picked. He was in the MLD last time.

Was picked #206 in the first ATD.

Evil Sather
04-13-2008, 08:13 PM
I'll gambool the guy I was going to take last round will drop even further, but this is a need pick considering I only have one center:

An elite checker and penalty killer for a decade, consistant offensive performer (5 of his 6 prime years he had at least 26 goals and 61 points, the outliers being a 21 goal season and a 57 point season), a guy who never had more than 45 PIMs once, and author of one of the more incredible seasons by a defensive forward, a 33 goal (8 shorties!), 43 assist campaign in which he was a just silly +61:

C Don Luce

Spitfire11
04-13-2008, 08:15 PM
seventieslord take Kirk Muller

shawnmullin
04-13-2008, 08:17 PM
I'll gambool the guy I was going to take last round will drop even further, but this is a need pick considering I only have one center:

An elite checker and penalty killer for a decade, consistant offensive performer (5 of his 6 prime years he had at least 26 goals and 61 points, the outliers being a 21 goal season and a 57 point season), a guy who never had more than 45 PIMs once, and author of one of the more incredible seasons by a defensive forward, a 33 goal (8 shorties!), 43 assist campaign in which he was a just silly +61:

C Don Luce

For me it was Otto or Luce last pick. Great value. Also like Muller here. Stop it guys!

Spitfire11
04-13-2008, 08:19 PM
Another guy I never would have given him a second look at in previous drafts, Captain of a couple Cup winners, and one of the original 12 HHOF inductees:

LW/RW Tommy Phillips

"Phillips showed himself to be a speed merchant on the blades and had no peer as a backchecker."

"Tommy soon showed superior talent in puckhandling and on-ice decision making that made him an unpredictable force to be reckoned with. Tommy could play both Left Wing and Right Wing, and had an unusually powerful shot to go along with pinpoint accuracy. His backchecking skills were exceptional as well."


Sounds like he should fit in with my team.

God Bless Canada
04-13-2008, 08:31 PM
Does anyone have VCL's list?

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 08:34 PM
VCL sent his pick to me, and he wants.....

Alexander Ovechkin (2005-Present)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2006/1026/nhl_g_ovechkin_195.jpg
From Legends of Hockey:
Alexander Ovechkin was born September 17, 1985 in Moscow, Russia. The first round, first overall selection of the Washington Capitals in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft, Ovechkin honed his skills with Dynamo Moscow of the Russian Elite League before making his North American and NHL debut in 2005-06.

Ovechkin, whose mother was a two-time Olympic gold medalist in basketball (1976 and 1980) and father was a professional soccer player, is a highly skilled forward who has blazing speed and does not shy away from the rough stuff.

In 2005-06 Ovechkin made his NHL debut with the Caps, leading his team and all league rookies in goals 52 and points 106 while capturing the Calder Memorial Trophy as the league's top rookie.

On the international stage, Ovechkin has extensive experience representing Russia, appearing in three World Junior Championships (2003, 2004, 2005), three World Championships (2004, 2005, 2006), the World Cup of Hockey (2004) and the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy. Named the Top Forward at the 2005 World Junior Championships, Ovechkin led Russia in goals (7) and points (11) and earned a silver medal, while capturing gold in 2003.

NHL Regular Season Statistics
GM: 245
G: 163
A: 147
P: 310
PIM: 144

NHL Playoff Statistics
GM: 2
G: 1
A: 1
P: 2
PIM: 0

NHL Awards/Accomplishments/Recognitions
Art Ross Trophy: 2008 (112 points)
Rocket Richard Trophy: 2008 (65 goals)
Calder Memorial Trophy - NHL Rookie of the Year: 2006
Kharlamov Trophy - Best NHL Russian player: 2006, 2007
NHL All-Rookie Team: 2006
NHL First All-Star Team: 2006, 2007
NHL No. 1 Star of the Month: January 2008, March 2008
NHL Offensive Player of the Month: January 2006
NHL Rookie of the Month: December 2005 and January 2006
NHL No. 1 Star of the Week: Weeks Ending December 30, 2007, and March 9 and March 23, 2008
NHL Offensive Player of the Week: Week Ending December 31, 2005 and Week Ending January 23, 2006
2005 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships – Best Forward
2006 Winter Olympics – Ice Hockey All-Tournament Team
2006 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships – Media All-Star Team


*** HE WILL LIKELY WIN THE 2008 HART TROPHY***

NHL Records
Most shots on goal by a rookie (2005-06) - 425 shots
Point streak in consecutive games to start an NHL career by a No. 1 overall pick - 8 games
Most regular season points by a Russian-born NHL rookie - 106 points
Most points scored by a NHL left-wing rookie - 106 points
Fastest overtime goal - 6 seconds; (12/15/2006 vs. Atlanta; tied with Mats Sundin and David Legwand)
Most goals scored by a NHL left-winger in a single season - 65 goals

Team Records
Most Goals in a season (2007-2008) - 65 goals
Most career penalty shots attempted - 3 shots (tied with P. Bondra and M. Gartner), [November 30, 2006]
Most Goals in a season by a Washington Capitals rookie (2005-2006) - 52 goals
Most Points in a season by a Washington Capitals rookie (2005-2006) - 106 points
Point streak by a Washington Capitals rookie - 11 games (17 points; 5 goals, 12 assists), [March 18 - April 7, 2006]
Point streak by a Washington Capitals rookie to start season - 8 games
Goal streak by a Washington Capitals rookie - 7 games [February 10 - March 8, 2006]

International Play
Played for Russia in:

* 2002 World Junior Championships (gold medal)
* 2003 World Junior Championships
* 2004 World Cup of Hockey
* 2004 World Junior Championships (silver medal)
* 2005 World Championships (bronze medal)
* 2006 Winter Olympics (4th place)
* 2006 World Championships
* 2007 World Championships (bronze medal)

International Play Statistics
GM: 71
G: 60
A: 24
P: 84
PIM: 86


I thought I would make it a sexy post for VCL!;)

Ill PM the next GM.

Pwnasaurus
04-13-2008, 08:39 PM
The Kansas City Scouts select Barclay Plager

Pwnasaurus
04-13-2008, 08:41 PM
The Montreal Maroons select Wendel Clark

I'll PM the GM after McLovin

Diving Pokecheck*
04-13-2008, 08:41 PM
GREAT pick with Ovechkin. Right now, he is a solid 2nd liner, all-time, and perhaps more in the future.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 08:42 PM
Let me congratulate EVERYBODY for not choosing a third-year youngum in today's NHL before 335th overall in the 11th round.

I am proud of us all. :clap: We showed a lot of respect for the history of the game.


(AO was a fine fourth liner last draft and is a good pick as a greenhorn third liner this draft: still not deserving of cracking any top two lines in an ATD context; this draft went about where should be.)

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 08:43 PM
LW/RW Tommy Phillips



An amazing pick. It really was a toss up between Phillips and Drillon to play on my second line. To be honest, I feel he's the better player. He can play the role of the two-way player on a scoring line with ease.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 08:43 PM
The Montreal Maroons select Wendel Clark

I'll PM the GM after McLovinHaha Peca, Luce and Clark were mine and Nate's guys that we were hoping would slip.

Guess not;)

monster_bertuzzi
04-13-2008, 08:43 PM
See, now that is the fine line in these drafts. In 15 years Ovechkin is a top 30 player of all time (barring injury) but since he's only in his third year it is looked down upon.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 08:43 PM
Let me congratulate EVERYBODY for not choosing a third-year youngum in today's NHL before 335th overall in the 11th round.

I am proud of us all. :clap: We showed a lot of respect for the history of the game.Still not a bad player though but yeah I agree.

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 08:44 PM
See, now that is the fine line in these drafts. In 15 years Ovechkin is a top 15 player of all time (barring injury) but since he's only in his third year it is looked down upon.Fixed;)

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 08:49 PM
...since he's only in his third year it is looked down upon.
This is about the HISTORY of the game not PROJECTING into the future.

Past Calder (and even a Hart) trophy winners have been panned in the ATD because of injury or other success shortening event in their life.

Anyways... congrats guys... no silliness this draft

chaosrevolver
04-13-2008, 09:18 PM
This is about the HISTORY of the game not PROJECTING into the future.

Past Calder (and even a Hart) trophy winners have been panned in the ATD because of injury or other success shortening event in their life.

Anyways... congrats guys... no silliness this draft (unlike when ****** was drafted in ATD-ML#4)Jesus....VanIslander...of all people to mention an undrafted player!;)

Evil Sather
04-13-2008, 09:25 PM
blahblahblbahbleeblahbalh

man if you were gonna bet me money on the least likely player on either team to take a bad boarding call, it woulda been Marty Straka. kill it guys, pweeze.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 09:29 PM
i deleted my reference to a guy who went in a Minor League draft and no one will ever draft again

NO mentioning of undrafted players should happen

BlueBleeder
04-13-2008, 09:30 PM
The Montreal Maroons select Wendel Clark

I'll PM the GM after McLovin

Was wondering how much longer he would last.

EagleBelfour
04-13-2008, 09:32 PM
Definitely ****** ****** drafted in ATD#1

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 09:33 PM
Was wondering how much longer he would last.
the guy was such a defensive liability, a coach's nightmare, often out of position, all over the place, a loose cannon the crowd loved when he hit a guy or made things happen offensively

i think he went just about where he should go (though I can think of at least two more deserving at his position)

pappyline
04-13-2008, 09:37 PM
the guy was such a defensive liability, a coach's nightmare, often out of position, all over the place, a loose cannon the crowd loved when he hit a guy or made things happen offensively

i think he went just about where he should go (though I can think of at least two more deserving at his position)
I agree. Wendall goes way to early in these drafts . he was a popular leaf player in his day. i might consider him for my 4th line LW but even that would be a reach.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 09:38 PM
...i might consider him for my 4th line LW ...
if wanted an "energy line" fourth, yeah

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Imagine this 5-man unit: Wendel Clark - Joe Thornton - Pavel Bure - Paul Coffey - Phil Housley :amazed:

Roger's Pancreas*
04-13-2008, 09:51 PM
Another guy I never would have given him a second look at in previous drafts, Captain of a couple Cup winners, and one of the original 12 HHOF inductees:

LW/RW Tommy Phillips

"Phillips showed himself to be a speed merchant on the blades and had no peer as a backchecker."

"Tommy soon showed superior talent in puckhandling and on-ice decision making that made him an unpredictable force to be reckoned with. Tommy could play both Left Wing and Right Wing, and had an unusually powerful shot to go along with pinpoint accuracy. His backchecking skills were exceptional as well."


Sounds like he should fit in with my team.I've very not happy with you.

I'm up, right?

edit: Alright. I see what happened. The Calgary Stampeders welcome aboard the smooth skating C Keith Primeau.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Alexei Kovalev
:handclap: a stanley cup. a top-10 nhl scoring season, 84 NHL playoff points in 100 games is too good for too long to overlooked simply because of recent rep; 333 goals, leading scorer and captain of Habs, a great 120 powerplay goals, 63 game winning goals

RW is deep in talent, and there are several I'd take before Alex, but he is deserving of ATD selection as at least a fourth liner and pp guy if not bench, though he could handle scoring line play, especially if with Gretz...

The Millionaires are gonna play Kovalev out of position at left wing? The roster post shows:
Alexei Kovalev-Peter Forsberg-Brett Hull

um.... actually.... I like it. Two playmakers and a finisher for the top line. All three are playoff performers. There is a question mark about chemistry or at least 20% performance hit Kovalev will take playing out of position, as far as I'm concerned, but that line should weave some magic. I still think there are undrafted left wingers better suited to the top line, including one that SCREAMS to go there!! (Vancouver ought to seriously consider drafting a LW and using Kovalev as a fourth liner with pp duty.)

Evil Sather
04-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Imagine this 5-man unit: Wendel Clark - Joe Thornton - Pavel Bure - Paul Coffey - Phil Housley :amazed:

overrated

God Bless Canada
04-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Does anyone have FF/Nalyd's list?

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 10:14 PM
overrated
Not by me! :laugh: I have never drafted any of those guys and probably never will.

But dang could they score crowd-pleasing goals (well, Thornton and Housley can pass pretty).

Roger's Pancreas*
04-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Re: the Linden pick

I didn't really feel like going into detail why I did what I did at the time. But now that I have the player I was specifically targeting with this particular pick, I don't exactly have to worry about anyone catching on. I don't have to worry about someone taking the player that's going to allow me to play Linden at RW.

I was picking at 303 and 338, with the next last pick coming at 402. Knowing full well that neither would be available at that point, I drafted them a little early. Were there better players on the board? Absolutely. The players available, though, can't anchor my third line like Linden and Primeau can. They don't bring that combination of size (something that was lacking), speed, skill, and character that Linden and Primeau do.Does anyone have FF/Nalyd's list?No, but they have been pm'd.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 10:22 PM
speed, skill, and character that Linden and Primeau do.
Both big but not very physical guys.

Linden is CLUTCH, Primeau is the opposite. Trevor a premier third liner, Keith ideally a fourth liner in an ATD playoff context.

Primeau had an atrociously low 9 goals in 110 NHL playoff games going into his final postseason. I was a big Primeau fan when he was young but he consistently didn't come through when it mattered most. Then, in his last playoffs, as a 33 year old, he suddenly had the sort of offensive postseason we all expected of him earlier in his career.

shawnmullin
04-13-2008, 10:34 PM
I like Ovechkin as a 2nd liner now. I agree, it's not about projecting his career. It's about looking at a guy who has scored over 90 points all three years he played, 100 twice, three time first all-star (likely), Art Ross winner, Richard winner, likely Hart winner. I'd have him on my second line and be happy to.

Roger's Pancreas*
04-13-2008, 10:41 PM
Both big but not very physical guys.

Linden is CLUTCH, Primeau is the opposite. Trevor a premier third liner, Keith ideally a fourth liner in an ATD playoff context.

Primeau had an atrociously low 9 goals in 110 NHL playoff games going into his final postseason. I was a big Primeau fan when he was young but he consistently didn't come through when it mattered most. Then, in his last playoffs, as a 33 year old, he suddenly had the sort of offensive postseason we all expected of him earlier in his career.Linden wasn't very physical, but Primeau was. It's what allowed him to become the shutdown center that he was later on.

During his tenure in Philadelphia, he'd average roughly 130 hits a season. And while the hit category is highly subjective, the Wachovia Center is not one of those arenas known for padding stats.

True, Primeau's offensive production dried up in the post-season. That's not why I drafted him, though. I drafted him to win face-offs, punish the opposing defensemen, and sustain offensive pressure. Any further contributions are just gravy.

Diving Pokecheck*
04-13-2008, 10:51 PM
I like Ovechkin as a 2nd liner now. I agree, it's not about projecting his career. It's about looking at a guy who has scored over 90 points all three years he played, 100 twice, three time first all-star (likely), Art Ross winner, Richard winner, likely Hart winner. I'd have him on my second line and be happy to.
agreed.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 11:07 PM
VCL sent his pick to me, and he wants.....

Alexander Ovechkin (2005-Present)

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2006/1026/nhl_g_ovechkin_195.jpg
From Legends of Hockey:
Alexander Ovechkin was born September 17, 1985 in Moscow, Russia. The first round, first overall selection of the Washington Capitals in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft, Ovechkin honed his skills with Dynamo Moscow of the Russian Elite League before making his North American and NHL debut in 2005-06.

Ovechkin, whose mother was a two-time Olympic gold medalist in basketball (1976 and 1980) and father was a professional soccer player, is a highly skilled forward who has blazing speed and does not shy away from the rough stuff.

In 2005-06 Ovechkin made his NHL debut with the Caps, leading his team and all league rookies in goals 52 and points 106 while capturing the Calder Memorial Trophy as the league's top rookie.

On the international stage, Ovechkin has extensive experience representing Russia, appearing in three World Junior Championships (2003, 2004, 2005), three World Championships (2004, 2005, 2006), the World Cup of Hockey (2004) and the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy. Named the Top Forward at the 2005 World Junior Championships, Ovechkin led Russia in goals (7) and points (11) and earned a silver medal, while capturing gold in 2003.

NHL Regular Season Statistics
GM: 245
G: 163
A: 147
P: 310
PIM: 144

NHL Playoff Statistics
GM: 2
G: 1
A: 1
P: 2
PIM: 0

NHL Awards/Accomplishments/Recognitions
Art Ross Trophy: 2008 (112 points)
Rocket Richard Trophy: 2008 (65 goals)
Calder Memorial Trophy - NHL Rookie of the Year: 2006
Kharlamov Trophy - Best NHL Russian player: 2006, 2007
NHL All-Rookie Team: 2006
NHL First All-Star Team: 2006, 2007
NHL No. 1 Star of the Month: January 2008, March 2008
NHL Offensive Player of the Month: January 2006
NHL Rookie of the Month: December 2005 and January 2006
NHL No. 1 Star of the Week: Weeks Ending December 30, 2007, and March 9 and March 23, 2008
NHL Offensive Player of the Week: Week Ending December 31, 2005 and Week Ending January 23, 2006
2005 World Junior Ice Hockey Championships – Best Forward
2006 Winter Olympics – Ice Hockey All-Tournament Team
2006 Men's World Ice Hockey Championships – Media All-Star Team


*** HE WILL LIKELY WIN THE 2008 HART TROPHY***

NHL Records
Most shots on goal by a rookie (2005-06) - 425 shots
Point streak in consecutive games to start an NHL career by a No. 1 overall pick - 8 games
Most regular season points by a Russian-born NHL rookie - 106 points
Most points scored by a NHL left-wing rookie - 106 points
Fastest overtime goal - 6 seconds; (12/15/2006 vs. Atlanta; tied with Mats Sundin and David Legwand)
Most goals scored by a NHL left-winger in a single season - 65 goals

Team Records
Most Goals in a season (2007-2008) - 65 goals
Most career penalty shots attempted - 3 shots (tied with P. Bondra and M. Gartner), [November 30, 2006]
Most Goals in a season by a Washington Capitals rookie (2005-2006) - 52 goals
Most Points in a season by a Washington Capitals rookie (2005-2006) - 106 points
Point streak by a Washington Capitals rookie - 11 games (17 points; 5 goals, 12 assists), [March 18 - April 7, 2006]
Point streak by a Washington Capitals rookie to start season - 8 games
Goal streak by a Washington Capitals rookie - 7 games [February 10 - March 8, 2006]

International Play
Played for Russia in:

* 2002 World Junior Championships (gold medal)
* 2003 World Junior Championships
* 2004 World Cup of Hockey
* 2004 World Junior Championships (silver medal)
* 2005 World Championships (bronze medal)
* 2006 Winter Olympics (4th place)
* 2006 World Championships
* 2007 World Championships (bronze medal)

International Play Statistics
GM: 71
G: 60
A: 24
P: 84
PIM: 86


I thought I would make it a sexy post for VCL!;)

And sexy it is. Thanks Nate. :)

I have Ovechkin slotted in on our 2nd line. I think with the right linemates, he has most certainly already accomplished enough to justify that spot. He can play the PP. He plays a style so if needed, we can put him on the 4th line with PP minutes.

mullin has all his accomplishments listed. Even eithout projecting his career, he is a Top 60 offensive LW ever, without any doubt, and therefor deserves to be drafted as a 2nd line scoring winger, IMO.

Also, as the NHL boards on this site will tell you, he's funny! That means he's a great player, right? :D



But I agree with VanI, I almost wanted to take him last round, but this is as early as a player with only three seasons should go. Just a question though: let's say Ovechkin pulls a Daigle (I pray Daigle never gets drafted) and floats around for the next 15 years (unlikely since we're talking about one of the most passionate guys in the game). Where does he go then? Say he consistently scores 20 goals each year, partly due to injury, partly due to basically no effort. Where does 15 year veteran Alexander Ovechkin get drafted in an all-time context then? Just curious.

VanIslander
04-13-2008, 11:15 PM
But I agree with VanI, I almost wanted to take him last round, but this is as early as a player with only three seasons should go. Just a question though: let's say Ovechkin pulls a Daigle (I pray Daigle never gets drafted) and floats around for the next 15 years (unlikely since we're talking about one of the most passionate guys in the game). Where does he go then? Say he consistently scores 20 goals each year, partly due to injury, partly due to basically no effort. Where does 15 year veteran Alexander Ovechkin get drafted in an all-time context then? Just curious.
Lindros was raved as a top-20 all time until his clock was tuned; Peca was headed for top-100 before his clock was cleaned. Concussions affect physical play, age and injury can ravage speed.

If you want PROJECTIONS, there are plenty of boards here at HfBoards that seem to do little else but.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 11:16 PM
This is about the HISTORY of the game not PROJECTING into the future.

Past Calder (and even a Hart) trophy winners have been panned in the ATD because of injury or other success shortening event in their life.

Anyways... congrats guys... no silliness this draft

I thought I had your post quoted...guess not.

Ovechkin had the top scoring season for a LW EVER this year...

Hart (likely), Art Ross, Richard, IMO possibly the Pearson...what's the difference between him and Markus Naslund? Naslund had 2-3 elite seasons, but didn't win any hardware. Ovechkin has 3 elite seasons, and has hardware. Naslund has a bunch of 20 goal seasons where he was basically a Top-6 player. Ovechkin doesn't have that NHL experience. Are those 10 extra years of being merely a good but not elite player the difference for Naslund as a 1st line LW all-time compared to Ovechkin?

And I'm not against Naslund by any means, I only used him as a example because his case fits what I'm trying to get at, plus, I know about Nazzy more then anyone else that I could've used as an example. I think Nazzy is still higher then Ovechkin, and is a legit 1st liner. Ovechkin is IMO a gritty 2nd liner.

Nalyd Psycho
04-13-2008, 11:41 PM
The Minnesota Fighting Saints select LW - Adam Graves.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 11:45 PM
Lindros was raved as a top-20 all time until his clock was tuned; Peca was headed for top-100 before his clock was cleaned. Concussions affect physical play, age and injury can ravage speed.

I know where they go now...but I'm curious as to where they would've gone in their third season...in the case of Peca, probably in the last rounds of the MLD...but Lindros would've been interesting for sure.

shawnmullin
04-13-2008, 11:49 PM
who can take a list

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 11:53 PM
who can take a list

I should be around tommorow. Unless you think we can get to your pick by tonight, then I probably wouldn't be the best option.

God Bless Canada
04-13-2008, 11:53 PM
I know where they go now...but I'm curious as to where they would've gone in their third season...in the case of Peca, probably in the last rounds of the MLD...but Lindros would've been interesting for sure.
Lindros won the Hart in his third season. Peca won the Selke in his third full season. (He played sparingly in 1993-94, but didn't gain full time status until 1995).

Incidentally, VanI, I've never heard any talk of Peca being on his way to an all-time top 100 player. Great defensive player. Hard hitter. Top 100 ever? No. And concussions weren't his downfall; he suffered a knee injury in the 2002 playoffs, and was never the same player.

vancityluongo
04-13-2008, 11:56 PM
Lindros won the Hart in his third season. Peca won the Selke in his third full season. (He played sparingly in 1993-94, but didn't gain full time status until 1995).

Incidentally, VanI, I've never heard any talk of Peca being on his way to an all-time top 100 player. Great defensive player. Hard hitter. Top 100 ever? No. And concussions weren't his downfall; he suffered a knee injury in the 2002 playoffs, and was never the same player.

I was referring to pre-Selke Peca...after winning the Selke, his stock naturally probably rose. still my question has yet to be fully answered (and its kinda hard to really clearly answer)

I didn't realize Lindros won the Hart in his third year...that makes for a bit of a comparison to Ovechkin. I'm guessing a bloom powerforward monster in Lindros would've gone around the same time as Ovechkin currently then?

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 12:01 AM
:handclap: a stanley cup. a top-10 nhl scoring season, 84 NHL playoff points in 100 games is too good for too long to overlooked simply because of recent rep; 333 goals, leading scorer and captain of Habs, a great 120 powerplay goals, 63 game winning goals

RW is deep in talent, and there are several I'd take before Alex, but he is deserving of ATD selection as at least a fourth liner and pp guy if not bench, though he could handle scoring line play, especially if with Gretz...

The Millionaires are gonna play Kovalev out of position at left wing? The roster post shows:
Alexei Kovalev-Peter Forsberg-Brett Hull

um.... actually.... I like it. Two playmakers and a finisher for the top line. All three are playoff performers. There is a question mark about chemistry or at least 20% performance hit Kovalev will take playing out of position, as far as I'm concerned, but that line should weave some magic. I still think there are undrafted left wingers better suited to the top line, including one that SCREAMS to go there!! (Vancouver ought to seriously consider drafting a LW and using Kovalev as a fourth liner with pp duty.)

I wish you would tell me who it is. :cry: As you said Kovalev is too overlooked because of a few lethargic years, but he is showing a TON of heart this season - and as we all know the natural talent just oozes. He will indeed slot into my top line - out of position, at LW. I wanted Mats Naslund who is a natural LW buit things just didnt work out.

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 12:02 AM
Incidentally, VanI, I've never heard any talk of Peca being on his way to an all-time top 100 player. Great defensive player. Hard hitter. Top 100 ever? No.
If Hull's foot in the crease game 6 OT nongoal hadn't stood and Peca scored the game 7 winner then the Sabres captain would be well on his way to all-time greatness. He always had Conn Smythe potential and showed some of that in Edmonton's cup run, though a shadow of his earlier self, still clutch.

Grown men in Vancouver cried when the Canucks rookie was traded to Buffalo. :cry: We knew he was something special. And his open-ice hitting in the '90s was also highlight reel stuff.

Yeah, at most he was on path for HHOF induction. Top-100 is a stretch. But to us Peca fans it sure seemed he had the potential to take his offensive game to the next level to match his defensive game, leadership, hitting and clutch play.

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
I didn't realize Lindros won the Hart in his third year...that makes for a bit of a comparison to Ovechkin. I'm guessing a bloom powerforward monster in Lindros would've gone around the same time as Ovechkin currently then?
No. Lindros fans were totally unreasonable jerks. He would have gone in the first round of the ATD.

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
I could deal with losing Peca, what choked me is that it took us over a decade to develop another checking line center.

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 12:08 AM
Grown men in Vancouver cried when the Canucks rookie was traded to Buffalo. :cry: We knew he was something special. And his open-ice hitting in the '90s was also highlight reel stuff.


Alexander Mogilnys incredible play and 107 points in 1996 sure eased the pain some.

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 12:14 AM
Alexander Mogilnys incredible play and 107 points in 1996 sure eased the pain some.
Are you kidding? That was his first season. It was ALL downhill from there.

When he left Vancouver may of us said "good riddance" :p:

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 12:17 AM
Are you kidding? That was his first season. It was ALL downhill from there.

When he left Vancouver may of us said "good riddance" :p:

I know, but he was gold in his first season...which made us forget about Peca fast.

seventieslord
04-14-2008, 12:18 AM
I think this is the highest he has been picked. He was in the MLD last time.
776th pick, ATD and MLD combined....and not a very celebrated pick, either.


seventieslord take Kirk Muller

Thanks for making this pick for me. Can't believe that there were only 4 GM's picking before me and I had to take the third guy on my list. (thanks for taking Peca and Luce! :rant:)

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 12:20 AM
I know, but he was gold in his first season...which made us forget about Peca fast.
He was gold in the first three quarters of his first season. He was terrible down the stretch. For most of that season, it wasn't a question of if, but when, he would break Bure's franchise goal scoring record. Then Mogilny tanked it in the final quarter.

I was none too happy when they traded Peca to get Mogilny. I became Peca's biggest fan after the infamous hit on Teemu Selanne in one of the most infamous games in Vancouver history. After those first 60 games in Vancouver, Mogilny proved the skeptics right.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 12:22 AM
776th pick, ATD and MLD combined....and not a very celebrated pick, either.




Thanks for making this pick for me. Can't believe that there were only 4 GM's picking before me and I had to take the third guy on my list. (thanks for taking Peca and Luce! :rant:)
And now you're up again.

BTW, nice pick with Muller. He was a guy we'd targeted to play LW on the Lemaire line. A multi-purpose, multi-position player who is a great leader, too.

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 12:28 AM
He was gold in the first three quarters of his first season. He was terrible down the stretch. For most of that season, it wasn't a question of if, but when, he would break Bure's franchise goal scoring record. Then Mogilny tanked it in the final quarter.

I was none too happy when they traded Peca to get Mogilny. I became Peca's biggest fan after the infamous hit on Teemu Selanne in one of the most infamous games in Vancouver history. After those first 60 games in Vancouver, Mogilny proved the skeptics right.

Yeah, to this day I still dont understand why he was so brutal here other than season 1. He got back to being a stud with Jersey and Toronto.

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 12:29 AM
Thanks for making this pick for me. Can't believe that there were only 4 GM's picking before me and I had to take the third guy on my list. (thanks for taking Peca and Luce! :rant:)

I wanted Muller with Jarvis. I had him targeted for the next round. :(

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 12:33 AM
Yeah, to this day I still dont understand why he was so brutal here other than season 1. He got back to being a stud with Jersey and Toronto.

He needs chemistry with his center, preferably a small shifty speedy center.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 12:34 AM
Imagine this 5-man unit: Wendel Clark - Joe Thornton - Pavel Bure - Paul Coffey - Phil Housley :amazed:

I feel like that's a Dream Line that wouldn't work. Bure worked with Lindros only when he wheels were pretty much done and he couldn't carry it as much.

Plus, there's very little defense there. There's a huge defensive liability when both your wingers are hanging in the neutral zone.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 12:35 AM
Yeah, to this day I still dont understand why he was so brutal here other than season 1. He got back to being a stud with Jersey and Toronto.

And with Brooklyn :yo:

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 12:40 AM
Plus, there's very little defense there. There's a huge defensive liability when both your wingers are hanging in the neutral zone.

I'm pretty sure that's what he was getting to. :)

seventieslord
04-14-2008, 12:47 AM
OK, let's get this thing moving. 2nd line be damned! I want Kenny Linseman. I think he and Muller will make a formidable pair on my 3rd line.

I'm PMing pappy.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 12:51 AM
I've got pappy's pick. The Buffalo Bisons are pleased to select: C/D Neil Colville.

If we get far enough, I have his next pick, too.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 12:55 AM
I'm pretty sure that's what he was getting to. :)

Yeah, i got it after I read it again after i posted.

Long day of cleaning out a house then yardwork, then the Devils game. I'm fried. Please don't let me pick soon. I'm likely to be caught looking at the 93 Sens roster and do something real stupid.

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 12:57 AM
Yeah, i got it after I read it again after i posted.

Long day of cleaning out a house then yardwork, then the Devils game. I'm fried. Please don't let me pick soon. I'm likely to be caught looking at the 93 Sens roster and do something real stupid.

351. I'm a nice guy, and you have an awesome avatar. I'll take that pick from you along with Mahovlich for my 23rd and 24th. Maybe.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 01:01 AM
351. I'm a nice guy, and you have an awesome avatar. I'll take that pick from you along with Mahovlich for my 23rd and 24th. Maybe.

I'm not that tired. Mahovlich will be a force when paired with one of the aces up my sleeve.

As for my avatar, did Rick Astley ever play hockey?

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 01:05 AM
As for my avatar, did Rick Astley ever play hockey?

Yeah, here's his page on Legends:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/479457894569/c=78368/;p(tybf)/Rick_Astley%_%/ (http://www.yougotrickrolled.com/)

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 01:06 AM
Seems like as good a time as any to talk about Pavel Bure. I was admittedly hesitant to praise him at first. The flaws are obvious. But, when he's in a situation where he's comfortable, he's incredible. One of the best goal scorers ever, 5 50 goal seasons, 3 scoring titles. And best of all, able to create goals from start to finish, he could get the puck in his own zone and score on the other end, making his opponents look silly, all on his own power. He was simply brilliant. But, he's also one of the most high maintenance players ever. Which is why I've created a checklist for ways to maintain Bure's comfort level and thus ability to single handedly dominate games:

1. A veteran Russian role model to make him feel at home.
2. A defenseman who can excel defensively while also excelling with breakout passes.
3. Defensively responsible linemates. Preferably with one PK specialist.
4. A neutral zone playmaker.
5. Linemates who are just as comfortable as role players as they are as offensive players.
6. A grinder to do the dirty work in the corners.
7. A crease crasher to screen the goalie and go for rebounds.
8. A player who will protect Bure if opponents try to take liberties with him.

I may be missing something, if so, I'll tell you later.

These roles are filled:
1. Ragulin
2. Ragulin
3. Graves and Howe, with Howe as a PK guy.
4. Howe
5. Howe has been used in every role possible while Graves was just as comfortable as a 4th liner as he was a 1st liner.
6. Graves
7. Graves
8. Graves

Howe would also finish well with long rebounds.

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 01:13 AM
Nalyd, you need to find a way to get Gino in there as well or you're pretty well screwed.

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 01:14 AM
Nalyd, you need to find a way to get Gino in there as well or you're pretty well screwed.

I'm sure Graves will fit in much better. Except for the lack of drunken rampages.

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 01:15 AM
I'm sure Graves will fit in much better. Except for the lack of drunken rampages.

And the good looks:

http://www.ginoodjick.com/images/gino009.jpg

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 01:16 AM
And the good looks:

http://www.ginoodjick.com/images/gino009.jpg

Nothing sexier then a drunk with a clearly shaven unibrow.

EagleBelfour
04-14-2008, 03:26 AM
I'm gone for the next three days. I'm going in Boston to see the Habs!

Screw Savard, screw Thomas, screw hazard cone! SCREW HAZARD CONE!!!

GO HABS GO!!!

Gibsons Finest
04-14-2008, 03:46 AM
Regarding Wendel, I can't deny that I probably took him before he should go, however, he's a player I wanted and I had doubts I could get him too much later. It might be a reach, but I think he's the player I need for the first line. He's talented enough offensively to fit, and his aggressive play will help protect Gartner and Morenz. The guy is also all heart, and is the type of player you want and sometimes need to win in a gruelling playoff series.

Also, while thinking on the subject at work, I noticed something about my team. Out of the 11 players I've drafted, 7 have played for the Toronto Maple Leafs. I didn't do this on purpose, but it's kind of funny that this happened.

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 04:09 AM
:leafs select #33 Al Iafrate,D


#33 Al Iafrate- - This gigantic mobile defenceman could skate like the wind, Al was a rugged d-man who could throw thunderous body checks when needed but his offensive game was the most important element of his play as he possessed copious amounts of raw skill which ere developed after a few seasons of apprenticing on the blue line with leaf great Borge Salming. It took him four years to settle into the NHL, but he once he matured, Iafrate made a solid impact as a big leaguer. His talents were equal to that of the best defenceman in the nhl. He could be a human high light wheel. "The wild thing" could lead the team to victory by taking over control of the game. He is perhaps most famous for his rocket slap shot that set the NHL Skills Competition record at 105.2 MPH. His booming shot would rival Al MacInnis' shot at All Star skills competitions.

Al had great offensive instincts and he was 6'3 220 at a time when the average player was 5'11" 185. Al 's size and style of play added up to one daring intimadation package for his opponets. He was just huge in all aspects of his life. He could throw the meanest body checks that would emobolize an stiffen his opponents while inlifitng his teammates game. He could give his on ice enemy a look that would strip paint of the nhl arena boards. He had suprising footspeed and there were not many players who would get in his way once he built up a head of steam and there were even less defenders who would try and block his 100 mile-an-hour-shot. His toughness and skills would be coveted by any nhl G.M. because Iafrate could deliver. He handled the puck well and adds a dimension to a team not many other players can. He had a cannon of a shot and the ability to carry the puck up the length of the rink and make magic happen on the ice.


Many scouts considered Iafrate to be the most talented player available next to obvious number one choice, Mario Lemieux. Mired in their worst organizational slump ever, the Toronto Maple Leafs chose Iafrate fourth overall. During the 1980s, the Maple Leafs constantly rushed young prospects into the NHL rather than give the required time to develop with their amateur squads or in the minor leagues. Iafrate was no exception, however; he displayed flashes of brilliance in 1983-84 suiting up for a poor defensive team.

Iafrate scored 61 points in his first three seasons but was often overmatched by more experienced and physical forwards. Toronto coaches Dan Maloney and John Brophy worked him in to shape so mercilessly that he left camp temporarily.

After a solid playoff in 1987, Iafrate turned down a chance to play for Team USA at the Canada Cup so he could work on his defensive play in Toronto. He broke through with two 20-goal performances in three seasons and was chosen to play in the 1988 and 1990 NHL All-Star Games. Iafrate's career seemed to have finally taken off, but then a devastating knee injury in March 1990 set him back considerably.

After a lethargic first half in 1990-91, Iafrate was traded to the Washington Capitals where he began to reclaim his confidence. He set career bests with 25 goals and 66 points in 1992-93 and was named to the NHL Second all-star team. Iafrate's goal total was second highest among NHL blueliners that year. He also played in the NHL All-Star Game.

Iafrate was traded to Boston for Joe Juneau late in the following season but soon after arriving his knee woes became chronic and he was forced to sit out the 1994-95 and the 1995-96 seasons. He was acquired by San Jose and resumed his career in 1996-97 but continued to miss a host of games due to injury. Iafrate retired in 1998 ending a decent career that promised so much more.



NHL Second All-Star Team (1993)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (1988, 1990, 1993, 1994)

Reg season Totals 799 152 311 463
Playoff Totals 71 19 16 35

ck26
04-14-2008, 04:33 AM
343. Dallas Freeze.

I'm probably going way off the board to take a bottom six winger here, but I love this guy too much to keep passing on him.

There aren't many hockey players who you can say showed up on the scene in Montreal and helped spark a six-finals-in-seven-years run, and most of the rest of them were off the board halfway through the first round.

This guy did. He's tough. He can score. He has the attitude I want on the Dallas Freeze ... he can play on my team any time, because he's a winner.

LW John Ferguson

Ferguson and Luc Robitaille will serve as Doug Harvey's alternate captains.

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 05:05 AM
And the good looks:

http://www.ginoodjick.com/images/gino009.jpg

I'll concede that no one on the Fighting Saints has Gino's George Clooney meets Errol Flynn good looks.

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 05:37 AM
I'll concede that no one on the Fighting Saints has Gino's George Clooney meets Errol Flynn good looks.

id say he has a lil vulcan in him as well:)

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 05:44 AM
take it to the CHAT ROOM boys

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 05:49 AM
I've got pappy's pick. The Buffalo Bisons are pleased to select: C/D Neil Colville
Two rounds ago I pegged him to go to pappy this round.

Two first team selections as a centre, one as an offensive defenseman when age took away his wheels.

BPA.

And no, he is not a pk or two-way guy (pappy suggested in a previous draft that he may have been, but I've come across nothing about that, doesn't seem likely). By all accounts he's an offensive talented guy who still had the skills to play so did what many old timers did way back: move to the blueline.

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 05:50 AM
take it to the CHAT ROOM boys

Oddly enough, it's actually ATD related....

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 05:59 AM
take it to the CHAT ROOM boys

u need to chill out.

VanIslander
04-14-2008, 06:16 AM
u need to chill out.
you need to get out more

but i need to get lost i guess :(

(5th bloody thread for this draft already and the lowest level of discussion ever... seriously.... this is becoming more like the HF Mock Draft board than HF History board)

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 06:49 AM
you need to get out more

but i need to get lost i guess :(

(5th bloody thread for this draft already and the lowest level of discussion ever... seriously.... this is becoming more like the HF Mock Draft board than HF History board)

I rarely do extra posts

those who chat in the new chatroom fit your discript more then I ever could.

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 06:59 AM
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pitseleh 87
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arrbez 52
shawnmullin 36
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nik jr 12
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reckoning 7
Spitfire11 7
Agent Dale Cooper 7
Bring Back Bucky 7
Johnny O 6
raleh 6
BlueBleeder 5
pappyline 5
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Hedberg 2
Willie For Captain 1
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BM67 1
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ATD Part 5

VanIslander 17
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chaosrevolver 11
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pitseleh 7
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clearly im not the one to be called out about extra posts.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 07:07 AM
Two rounds ago I pegged him to go to pappy this round.

Two first team selections as a centre, one as an offensive defenseman when age took away his wheels.

BPA.

And no, he is not a pk or two-way guy (pappy suggested in a previous draft that he may have been, but I've come across nothing about that, doesn't seem likely). By all accounts he's an offensive talented guy who still had the skills to play so did what many old timers did way back: move to the blueline.
Have I become that predictable? I actually was going to pick Colville 41 picks earlier but gambled he would still be available so I traded down.

I think he was moved to defense when he came back from the war. That he could come back from the war & be an AS at a new position tells a lot about his skills.

I will do a little more research but I see no reason to doubt that he was an effective 2 way player. Most were back in those days.

I will probably play him at D but he would also be a good 2nd line centre.

70/s time will be up at 10:33 & it will be my pick again.

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 10:11 AM
Pick 344, Ottawa Silver Seven (Cup 2008 Sens Rule) had its timer expire at 10:09AM EST and has been SKIPPED.

Pick 345, Buffalo Bisons (pappyline) is on the clock until 4:09M EST. He has been PM'd.

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 10:15 AM
Will anyone be around most of the day? I have to be away from my computer until likely tonight and I have a list from BBB in case his pick comes up before I get back.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 10:16 AM
Will anyone be around most of the day? I have to be away from my computer until likely tonight and I have a list from BBB in case his pick comes up before I get back.
Send it my way. I'll be around most of the day.

Transplanted Caper
04-14-2008, 10:33 AM
Will make my pick tonight. Please keep the draft moving if I come up. I'm at work.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 10:37 AM
With pick # 345, Bisons slect C Tod Sloan who will centre the 2nd line with Litzenberger & Delvecchio on the wings. Sloan and Litzenberger have good chemistry and played together on the top scoring line of 58-59. litzenberger also played with Delvecchio on the Howe line during his brief tenure with Detroit.

Sloan was known for being an effective 2 way player & had some exceptional offensive years.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 10:41 AM
Will make my pick tonight. Please keep the draft moving if I come up. I'm at work.
Classy gesture, TC. Hopefully stuff like that is remembered at voting time.

I have BBB's pick. Donair City is pleased to select arguably the most talented winger remaining, the Magic Man: LW Kent Nilsson.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 10:46 AM
The Ottawa RCAF Flyers are pleased to select a tough, talented, swashbuckling defenceman who won four Cups, scored the Cup-winning goal in 1951, and inspired one of the great rock songs of all-time: D Bill Barilko.

seventieslord
04-14-2008, 10:49 AM
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FissionFire 97
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Part 4

pitseleh 87
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arrbez 52
shawnmullin 36
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John Flyers Fan 24
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seventieslord 22
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nik jr 12
MiamiScreamingEagles 8
Rick Middleton 8
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JimEIV 7
reckoning 7
Spitfire11 7
Agent Dale Cooper 7
Bring Back Bucky 7
Johnny O 6
raleh 6
BlueBleeder 5
pappyline 5
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Hedberg 2
Willie For Captain 1
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BM67 1
Hockey Outsider 1

ATD Part 5

VanIslander 17
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chaosrevolver 11
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pitseleh 7
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clearly im not the one to be called out about extra posts.

And the award for most consistent poster goes to....

ME!

Sturminator
04-14-2008, 10:59 AM
Have I become that predictable? I actually was going to pick Colville 41 picks earlier but gambled he would still be available so I traded down.

I think he was moved to defense when he came back from the war. That he could come back from the war & be an AS at a new position tells a lot about his skills.

I will do a little more research but I see no reason to doubt that he was an effective 2 way player. Most were back in those days.

I will probably play him at D but he would also be a good 2nd line centre.

70/s time will be up at 10:33 & it will be my pick again.

I think we're all a little predictable at this point. Anyone who didn't see me going after Andy Bathgate after trading up into the 70's hasn't been paying attention. I had pit pegged for Benedict in the 2nd as soon as he made the trade for that pick, and Hitchman didn't exactly shock me, either. But then again, I pay attention to who praises whom in these threads. It happens.

papershoes
04-14-2008, 11:25 AM
The St.Catharines TeePees are pleased to select,

Lennart "Lill-Strimma" Svedberg (D)
http://images.sportsverige.com/?268963_133x180.jpg

From "1972SummitSeries.com"
Most experts regard Svedberg to be the most talented Swedish defenseman ever. Everybody called him "Lill-Strimma". He was an exceptionally creative defenseman who was a joy to watch.

His unpredictable moves and effortless skating made him extremely hard to stop. He was a Paul Coffey type of player in regards of skating and offensive play. He didn't score many goals, but he set up a lot and created havoc in the offensive zone.

Lill-Strimma represented Sweden 125 times, scoring 16 goals. He was named to the World Championship All-Star team three years in a row (1968-70). In 1970 he was voted as the best defenseman in the World Championships.

In the Swedish league he played 229 games and scored 72 goals. His clubs in Sweden were Wifsta / Östrand (later Timrå IK) (1960-62), Grums IK (1962-63), Brynäs IF (1963-67), Mora IK (1967-69) and Timrå IK (1969-72)

Those who saw him play will never forget his high speed rushes over the ice that captured fans everywhere. He was a bohemian player and didn't follow any given patterns. It was this unique trademark that made him stand out among the players.

He was a "Michelangelo" on ice.

...we're definitely excited to unite paul coffey and euro-coffey on the TeePees top powerplay unit.

the next gm has been pm'd.

Spitfire11
04-14-2008, 11:30 AM
An amazing pick. It really was a toss up between Phillips and Drillon to play on my second line. To be honest, I feel he's the better player. He can play the role of the two-way player on a scoring line with ease.

Thanks, although I'm a bit worried he's a complete unknown. You actually took the guy I orginally planned on taking, Griffis would have been a perfect fit on my team.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 11:30 AM
Who wound up taking mullin's list?

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Thanks, although I'm a bit worried he's a complete unknown. You actually took the guy I orginally planned on taking, Griffis would have been a perfect fit on my team.

In looking through old articles, when mentioning the greatest pre-NHL players, Phillips is one of the most common names to come up. After Cyclone Taylor, who's a given as the best to never play in the NHL, Hod Stuart and Tommy Phillips (along with a couple undrafted players) are the ones to routinely come up as the top players who pre-dated the NHL.

The only knock on some of the old pre-NHL players who didn't play very long (outside of Taylor) is how few games they ended up being involved in. Obviously it has a lot to do with circumstances at the time though (short seasons, second jobs, etc.).

Sturminator
04-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Thanks, although I'm a bit worried he's a complete unknown. You actually took the guy I orginally planned on taking, Griffis would have been a perfect fit on my team.

Considering that it was a pretty good argument between Hod Stuart and Tommy Phillips as to who was the greatest player of the pre-NHA era and Stuart is generally considered a fairly high-end 2nd pairing type (and taken in the top-250), I think Tommy Phillips still goes quite a bit too low in these drafts. Era notwithstanding, he was easily the greatest forward to strap on skates until Cyclone Taylor came along.

If Stuart belongs on a second pairing, then Phillips belongs on a second line, and the fact that he can play either wing is a nice bonus. He got criticized in the last draft for his PIM totals, but I think that criticism was fairly weak considering that his icetime (which was probably in the 55 minute/game range) was not taken into account. I think he's a strong 2-way 2nd line player.

Good lord, I still don't understand how the Seals lost in six in the semis last time around.

MXD
04-14-2008, 12:09 PM
With pick # 345, Bisons slect C Tod Sloan who will centre the 2nd line with Litzenberger & Delvecchio on the wings. Sloan and Litzenberger have good chemistry and played together on the top scoring line of 58-59. litzenberger also played with Delvecchio on the Howe line during his brief tenure with Detroit.

Sloan was known for being an effective 2 way player & had some exceptional offensive years.

I know there are some chemistry issues involved, but there's at least one guy whom I wonder why he goes after Sloan in those drafts. PM'In you about this, cause you might have seen those guys (but you were young....) and I obviously didn't.

Sturminator
04-14-2008, 12:59 PM
With pick # 345, Bisons slect C Tod Sloan who will centre the 2nd line with Litzenberger & Delvecchio on the wings. Sloan and Litzenberger have good chemistry and played together on the top scoring line of 58-59. litzenberger also played with Delvecchio on the Howe line during his brief tenure with Detroit.

Sloan was known for being an effective 2 way player & had some exceptional offensive years.

You know, I took a hard look at Tod Sloan for the 2nd line center role in Springfield, and may have taken him exactly where you did had I not traded up with you for Smith. I had some reservations about Sloan in that role, but I think he'll work better with Delvecchio/Litzenberger than he would have with Selanne, both because of playoff record (unlike Smith's, Sloan's doesn't really stand out) and because of playing style (Sloan is more goal-scorer than playmaker).

I can buy Tod Sloan as a low-end 2nd line center given the dilution in talent we're seeing now on the 2nd units at 32 teams. He's a tough guy, and his credentials as a goal-scorer are good for this point in the draft.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 01:06 PM
LW John Ferguson

Ferguson and Luc Robitaille will serve as Doug Harvey's alternate captains.


Why are you the way you are?.....I hate....so much....about the things that...you choose to be......

Damn you Freeze

shawnmullin anybody? shawnmullin?

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 03:15 PM
I never got a list...maybe he'll be around? (shawnmullin)

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 03:18 PM
mullin's time limit expires at 5:25 p.m. EST (a little more than two hours from now). Then VL will be on the clock.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 03:55 PM
You know, I took a hard look at Tod Sloan for the 2nd line center role in Springfield, and may have taken him exactly where you did had I not traded up with you for Smith. I had some reservations about Sloan in that role, but I think he'll work better with Delvecchio/Litzenberger than he would have with Selanne, both because of playoff record (unlike Smith's, Sloan's doesn't really stand out) and because of playing style (Sloan is more goal-scorer than playmaker).

I can buy Tod Sloan as a low-end 2nd line center given the dilution in talent we're seeing now on the 2nd units at 32 teams. He's a tough guy, and his credentials as a goal-scorer are good for this point in the draft.
Smith's playoff record isn't that much better than Sloan's. Sloan had 21 pts in 47 games. Smith had 27 in 44.. Sloan was both a better goal score & playmaker than Smith. Sloan had 220g & 262a in 745games. Smith had 186g & 183A in 601 games. I think both are good 2nd liners in a 32 team draft. I do think I got better value though picking Sloan where I did.

Nalyd Psycho
04-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Have I become that predictable? I actually was going to pick Colville 41 picks earlier but gambled he would still be available so I traded down.

I think he was moved to defense when he came back from the war. That he could come back from the war & be an AS at a new position tells a lot about his skills.

I will do a little more research but I see no reason to doubt that he was an effective 2 way player. Most were back in those days.

I will probably play him at D but he would also be a good 2nd line centre.

70/s time will be up at 10:33 & it will be my pick again.

From what I can gather, there were more one dimensional players back then. It was probably Toronto's insistence on 2-way play and success with it that caused the teams to really tighten up on players in the 50's and 60's.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 04:06 PM
I know there are some chemistry issues involved, but there's at least one guy whom I wonder why he goes after Sloan in those drafts. PM'In you about this, cause you might have seen those guys (but you were young....) and I obviously didn't.
Sent a PM answering your PM. I did see both play but was young. I think they were comparable players. Picked Sloan because of chemistry with Litz. Also watched him more as I was a Hawk fan in those days.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 04:13 PM
From what I can gather, there were more one dimensional players back then. It was probably Toronto's insistence on 2-way play and success with it that caused the teams to really tighten up on players in the 50's and 60's.
Good point. I just always assumed that most forwards went both ways back then.

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 04:17 PM
Sorry boys wasn't home last night or this morning.

Trail takes a man who nearly hit a point per game while being known for two way play on the broad street bullies.

LW/C Rick MacLeish

raleh
04-14-2008, 04:24 PM
Sorry boys wasn't home last night or this morning.

Trail takes a man who nearly hit a point per game while being known for two way play on the broad street bullies.

LW/C Rick MacLeish

Tremendous pick! I definitely thought he was off the board.

John Flyers Fan
04-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Sorry boys wasn't home last night or this morning.

Trail takes a man who nearly hit a point per game while being known for two way play on the broad street bullies.
LW/C Rick MacLeish

Not real sure I would agree with that.

Exclusively a center .. and the most naturally gifted of the 70's Flyers. Wasn't the grittiest player and didn't always show up during the regular season, but he was a big time playoff and big game performer.

Excellent skater, and a big time wrist shot. Best to pair him with gritty wingers, and if one is a playmaker, even better.

Very good pick at this point in the draft.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 04:28 PM
The Brooklyn Yawning Otters will go with the best play-maker left in the draft, a kid who has proven much and still has much to prove, with pick #352 we select #87

Sidney Crosby - C

to play between Frank Mahovlich and Alexander Mogilny

nik jr
04-14-2008, 04:36 PM
lada selects D jim schoenfeld.

Hedberg
04-14-2008, 04:41 PM
I'm leaving Wednesday and will not be back untill April 30th. Would anyone take my list for me? And any suggestions how many players should be on the list?

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 04:42 PM
let's get these next few picks rolling so I can select again then curse you all for taking the guys i want in the ensuing sixty picks.

Hedberg
04-14-2008, 04:43 PM
Victoria selects Dirk Graham

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 04:44 PM
Not real sure I would agree with that.

Exclusively a center .. and the most naturally gifted of the 70's Flyers. Wasn't the grittiest player and didn't always show up during the regular season, but he was a big time playoff and big game performer.

Excellent skater, and a big time wrist shot. Best to pair him with gritty wingers, and if one is a playmaker, even better.

Very good pick at this point in the draft.

You sure exclusivley a C? He was listed at LW on hockeydb

As for two way play....

Legends of hockey says:

Over the next two season he continued to produce on offense but was asked to take on penalty killing and defensive responsibility. MacLeish's excellence was a key component on the Flyers' consecutive Stanley Cup wins in 1974 and 1975. During the first title run he led all playoff goal scorers with 13 goals and 22 points. Overall, MacLeish was named to play in the 1976, 1977 and 1980 NHL all-star games.

During the late 70s, MacLeish was a top two-way player for Philly.


Listed at LW by hockeydb, markerzone, and Wikipedia

Obviously that doesn't necessarily make it true. What's the call from those that saw him play? Did he play some wing?

Roger's Pancreas*
04-14-2008, 04:44 PM
The Brooklyn Yawning Otters will go with the best play-maker left in the draft, a kid who has proven much and still has much to prove, with pick #352 we select #87

Sidney Crosby - C

to play between Frank Mahovlich and Alexander Mogilny"Defense? We don't need no stinking defense."You sure exclusivley a C? He was listed at LW on hockeydb

As for two way play....

Legends of hockey says:

Listed at LW by hockeydb, markerzone, and Wikipedia

Obviously that doesn't necessarily make it true. What's the call from those that saw him play? Did he play some wing?I've only seen select games, but each time MacLeish was playing center.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 04:45 PM
I'm leaving Wednesday and will not be back untill April 30th. Would anyone take my list for me? And any suggestions how many players should be on the list?
I don't know. My guess is that we'll probably slice through Rounds 13-20 in that two-week stretch. You might want to just go through your remaining needs, list them in order of preference, and send a top five list for each role. But be realistic. If you think a guy will be snapped up right away, don't include him.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 04:46 PM
I'm leaving Wednesday and will not be back untill April 30th. Would anyone take my list for me? And any suggestions how many players should be on the list?

wow...that's basically every pick you have left. 300+ picks. i'd list 300 players and 29 coaches.

When do the games start?

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 04:48 PM
"Defense? We don't need no stinking defense."I've only seen select games, but each time MacLeish was playing center.
I was always under the belief that MacLeish was a centre, too. If he is an LW, then that pick is a coup, because he'd be the best LW out there, and better than a lot of the LWs already picked, but he's always been a centre in this thing, and my understanding has always been the MacLeish is a centre.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 04:51 PM
Brooklyn Yawning Otters select

Craig Hartsburg - D

Roger's Pancreas*
04-14-2008, 04:52 PM
I was always under the belief that MacLeish was a centre, too. If he is an LW, then that pick is a coup, because he'd be the best LW out there, and better than a lot of the LWs already picked, but he's always been a centre in this thing, and my understanding has always been the MacLeish is a centre.****, if Rick were a LW, I would have picked him myself two rounds ago.

edit: Flyers History (http://www.flyershistory.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?Rick_MacLeish) corroborates that he played C, and the folks there are pretty thorough.

John Flyers Fan
04-14-2008, 04:52 PM
MacLeish was exclusively a center, other that playing on the top PP unit along with Clarke.

MacLeish centered the Flyers 2nd line between 2 wingers I can't yet mention.

As for penalty killing, he did kill penalties at times, but wasn't one of the Flyers top penalty killers. Most of the Flyer forwards did kill penalties, we had plenty of opportunities. :D

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 04:56 PM
****, if Rick were a LW, I would have picked him myself two rounds ago.

Me too.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 05:05 PM
just PMd shawnmullin, was called away from my desk right after my pick. if possible could we give him the extra 15 min if needed.

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 05:20 PM
Well... that certainly makes things more complicated for me. Uh, strength down the middle eh?

I don't get why so many places had it wrong

I was going to go with a RW in this spot but now I've changed course... that being said I've LOVE to trade up right away to get that RW because I had my heart set on him. Now I feel LW is more crucial.

LW Dean Prentice

Legends...

Prentice eventually settled onto a line with Andy Bathgate and [censored]. The trio became the Rangers' most successful unit. Prentice became the two-way standout who excelled at backchecking, killing penalties, working the corners and jumping onto the powerplay. But his quiet, unassuming personality took a back seat to the more colourful Bathgate who was the dipsy-doodler and scorer among the trio. As such, Prentice has been characterized as the most underrated forward of his era.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Well... that certainly makes things more complicated for me. Uh, strength down the middle eh?

I don't get why so many places had it wrong

I was going to go with a RW in this spot but now I've changed course... that being said I've LOVE to trade up right away to get that RW because I had my heart set on him. Now I feel LW is more crucial.

LW Dean Prentice

T
Prentice-MacLeish will be two-thirds of what should be an excellent two-way line.

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 05:23 PM
Prentice-MacLeish will be two-thirds of what should be an excellent two-way line.

What this may allow me to do is create a very physical fourth line around Otto.... who I'd think would be close to the best 4th line C in the draft

papershoes
04-14-2008, 05:29 PM
The St.Catharines TeePees are pleased to select:

Al Arbour, Coach

http://www.islandersarmy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/al_islanders.jpg

A place among the greatest head coaches in NHL history will always be held by Alger Joseph "Radar" Arbour. His career totals of 1,606 games behind the bench and 781 victories trail only the legendary Scotty Bowman in the record ledger. Arbour's guidance contributed significantly to the New York Islanders' rapid ascent to competitive status in the 1970s and the club's subsequent run of four consecutive Stanley Cup wins from 1980 to 1983, as well as a record 19 consecutive playoff series wins from 1980 to 1984.

...During each of the next four seasons, the Islanders finished with more than 100 points. This didn't translate into a Stanley Cup triumph, but the team did gain valuable experience. Following the 1978-79 campaign, Arbour was presented the Jack Adams Award as the NHL's top coach. In 1979-80, the Islanders attained their ultimate goal by defeating the Philadelphia Flyers in six games to win the Stanley Cup in their eighth season. They repeated this accomplishment in each of the next three years to become only the second NHL club to win four straight titles (Montreal did it twice). Their drive for five consecutive championships fell short when they lost to the Edmonton Oilers in the 1984 finals.

The pinnacle of his second installment behind the New York bench occurred in 1992-93 when the Islanders upset the defending Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins to reach the semi-finals. Arbour retired in 1994 as the second-winningest coach of all time, with 781 regular-season victories and 123 post-season triumphs to his credit. One of the major foundations in the history of the New York Islanders, Arbour was an obvious choice to enter the Hockey Hall of Fame Builders category in 1996.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 05:37 PM
The Ottawa RCAF Flyers are pleased to select a skilled two-way winger who won four Stanley Cups with the Montreal Canadiens in the 60s, and was a second-team all-star in 1966:

RW Bobby Rousseau

More to come later today.

ck26
04-14-2008, 05:38 PM
I've always understood Al Arbour to be the NHL's version of my favorite international coach. Few were better at rallying the troops and ensuring the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. Nice choice. Interested to see if this triggers a run on coaches ...

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 05:46 PM
The Ottawa RCAF Flyers are pleased to select a skilled two-way winger who won four Stanley Cups with the Montreal Canadiens in the 60s, and was a second-team all-star in 1966:

RW Bobby Rousseau

More to come later today.

That was the guy I was going to take

Damn you MacLeish, why did you deceive me?

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 05:48 PM
I've always understood Al Arbour to be the NHL's version of my favorite international coach. Few were better at rallying the troops and ensuring the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. Nice choice. Interested to see if this triggers a run on coaches ...


Yeah, four Stanley Cups is pretty good, I mean it's not 9 but what is? ;)

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 05:53 PM
You're all ******** taking my favourites (Prentice and Rousseau). :rant:

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 07:11 PM
The Donair *insert weird Snoop Dogg speak here* Monsters select D Paul Reinhart

The Glace Bay Miners (Transplanted Caper) are being SKIPPED as requested.

The Buffalo Bisons (pappyline) are on the clock.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 07:13 PM
The Brooklyn Yawning Otters will go with the best play-maker left in the draft, a kid who has proven much and still has much to prove, with pick #352 we select #87

Sidney Crosby - C

to play between Frank Mahovlich and Alexander Mogilny
What a difference a year makes. !00 spots lower than ATD8.

raleh
04-14-2008, 07:14 PM
You're all ******** taking my favourites (Prentice and Rousseau). :rant:

Yeah that's who we thought your conditional trade last round was for.

John Flyers Fan
04-14-2008, 07:14 PM
I have cotton's list .. PM me when he's up.

pappyline
04-14-2008, 07:16 PM
Bisons select C/LW Don Marshall

pitseleh
04-14-2008, 07:16 PM
Yeah that's who we thought your conditional trade last round was for.

If I hadn't traded up I almost certainly would have taken him at 353 but Noble was too perfect of a fit for my top-6 to pass up the opportunity to select.

I should have known pappy would take Marshall.

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 07:29 PM
Ottawa Silver Seven (Cup 2008 Sens Rule) is SKIPPED because they still have a pick outstanding.

Dallas Freeze (cottonking) select Jacques Lemaire, coach

Toronto Maple Leafs (Leaf Lander) is on the clock.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 07:32 PM
What a difference a year makes. !00 spots lower than ATD8.

Coulda been 100 higher if not for the injury.

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 07:32 PM
How do the auto-skipped picks work? Does he lose an hour off the timer again or no penalty for the auto-skip?

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 07:34 PM
How do the auto-skipped picks work? Does he lose an hour off the timer again or no penalty for the auto-skip?
No loss of an hour due to auto-skip. Think of it just like the picks that end/begin a round. Cup remains at five hours.

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 07:41 PM
Ottawa Silver Seven (Cup 2008 Sens Rule) is SKIPPED because they still have a pick outstanding.

Dallas Freeze (cottonking) select Jacques Lemaire, coach

Toronto Maple Leafs (Leaf Lander) is on the clock.

I was thinking of Lemaire with my last pick, but I have too many offense-first guys, I didn't think it would work well with Lemaire.

My second line would be in the dog-house after the first practice.

Hawkman
04-14-2008, 07:43 PM
I'm happy with Al Arbour. I don't think (prepare for sacrilege) Crosby is the best young player in the NHL. I know, just shoot me. ;)

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm happy with Al Arbour. I don't think (prepare for sacrilege) Crosby is the best young player in the NHL. I know, just shoot me. ;)

well, if Ovechkin was available i would have nabbed him. Damn you all.

I'm not gonna argue with Arbour. 4 Cups is 4 Cups....Even if he had enough talent on those teams for auto-pilot hehe. jk

Leaf Lander
04-14-2008, 08:03 PM
:leafs select Rick Vaive RW


Bio will come tomorrow

Heat McManus
04-14-2008, 08:08 PM
I'm happy with Al Arbour. I don't think (prepare for sacrilege) Crosby is the best young player in the NHL. I know, just shoot me. ;)

well, if Ovechkin was available i would have nabbed him. Damn you all.

I'm not gonna argue with Arbour. 4 Cups is 4 Cups....Even if he had enough talent on those teams for auto-pilot hehe. jk

pappyline
04-14-2008, 08:20 PM
With pick # 364 Bisons select C/RW Fleming Mackell.

ck26
04-14-2008, 08:20 PM
My second line would be in the dog-house half-way through the first practice.**fixed.

Arbour is greatness -- he helped Trottier, Bossy, etc become the players they were, so I don't know if I'd call that Islanders team an "auto-pilot."

Fission, thanks for announcing my pick of Jacques Lemaire.

I think coaching is a two-way street. Yes, it takes a certain type of player to play for Lemaire (or any other really demanding coach), but playing for Jacques Lemaire (or any other demanding coach) will also make you a better player; he will expect you develop your whole game. Mike Modano was on pace to be Pavel Bure, but that was coached out of him in Dallas. Even Brett Hull -- who wouldn't be the best defensive player on my cousin's bantams team -- had some of it "coached into him." A whole team full of Bures with a stodgy coach wouldn't work, but one or two "one-way bad apples" (to coin a phrase) won't spoil the bunch if they're surrounded by team guys, by character guys, by coach-first, defensive guys.Rick VaiveHuuuuuge suprise there. Nice pick. Nice scorer. Nice player.

God Bless Canada
04-14-2008, 08:26 PM
RCAF Flyers go Hollywood
Barilko, Rousseau added to team
By Dickie Dunn

The Ottawa RCAF Flyers added a taste of Hollywood, and some strong defensive presence, on Monday, selecting defenceman Bill Barilko and right winger with their picks.
Barilko was the 10th player the team picked, and the first since Doug Mohns was added last Tuesday. Barilko will likely be partnered with Mohns on the club's second pairing.
"He's the hard-nosed, aggressive, double-tough defenceman that every team wants," said co-GM God Bless Canada. "Our co-GM, raleh, is probably Barilko's biggest fan. There's no way we were going to let him slip."
GBC said Barilko will also be the team's top shot-blocker. He's an effective puck-mover and a strong skater who will be given a bit of a green light to be involved in the offence.
Barilko played only five NHL seasons, but in that time, he won four Stanley Cups, and scored the Cup-winning goal in 1951 in one of hockey's great moments.
"He was well on his way to establishing himself as a sure-fire top three defenceman for this draft," said GBC. "He'll make a rock-solid No. 4."
Barilko also played parts of two seasons with the Hollywood Wolves before joining the Leafs.
Rousseau was chosen in the 12th round. He'll be counted on to add a strong two-way presence as the right winger on Ottawa's two-way line.
"When you really take a long look, there isn't much out there for two-way line right wingers," said GBC. "Guys who got Claude Provost, Jere Lehtinen, George Armstrong, Bob Nystrom and Eddie Westfall are in really good shape, if they choose to use those players in that role.
GBC said two-way line RW is likely the position with the least amount of depth in the draft.
"There are lots of skilled right wingers out there, and lots of tough right wingers out there. But in terms of right wingers who make you comfortable to have out there as a shadow against the other team's best players, there aren't many."
Rousseau was an acclaimed two-way forward and penalty killer for much of his career. He won four Stanley Cups with Montreal in the 1960s. He tied for the league lead in assists in 1966, the year he was named a second-team all-star. He eclipsed 50 points eight times in his career, including three times in the Original 6 era.

BM67
04-14-2008, 08:36 PM
For the record MacLeish played left wing in the minors for Boston, before the trade to Philadelphia. He was still listed as a LW in 75, but he was a natural center, and played almost all his NHL career there.

John Flyers Fan
04-14-2008, 09:17 PM
Nonis fired. Burke back to the Nucks ???

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 09:35 PM
Nonis fired. Burke back to the Nucks ???

This is one time I agree, take it to the chat room before we have 5 pages of OT chatter. ;)

John Flyers Fan
04-14-2008, 09:39 PM
This is one time I agree, take it to the chat room before we have 5 pages of OT chatter. ;)

We have enough Nucks fans participating .. and who cares how many threads we go thru. We're all here for fun.

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 09:48 PM
Am I ever relieved they got rid of that cheeseburger eatin' *******.

Transplanted Caper
04-14-2008, 09:53 PM
Fantastic pick with Barilko GBC. Phenomenal talent taken far too soon.



The Miners select.


D. Reed Larson

Larson broke into the NHL via the Detroit Red Wings where he was a runner-up for the Calder Trophy as the league's top rookie. The acknowledgement was no fluke. In the ensuing years he recorded five 20-goal seasons and eight 60-point campaigns. He was the first American-born player and the sixth defenseman to score 200 career goals.


RW. Ron Ellis


He was a prolific scorer in junior and starred when the Marlies won the Memorial Cup in 1963-64. The young winger impressed coaches and fans in his first NHL season by scoring 23 goals and narrowly losing the Calder Trophy race to Detroit netminder Roger Crozier. He was immediately a vital two-way performer playing on a line with stalwarts Dave Keon and Bob Pulford. The veterans were impressed with the fact that the youngster's zeal was as strong while checking as it was when racing in on the opposition's goal

seventieslord
04-14-2008, 10:06 PM
Thank goodness the Miners selected Reed Larson and not....

D Sergei Gonchar... the first player I have ever selected in two ATD's!

I think Gonchar's resume compares quite favorably to Reed Larson, and when I have more time, I will demonstrate how he is quite similar to Phil Housley. (check their Norris finishes, for starters)

4th in Norris voting (2002)
4th in Norris voting (2003)
5th in Norris voting (2000)
6th in Norris voting (2001)
9th in Norris voting (2004)
15th in Norris voting (2006)
*Haven't checked the 2007 results, I believe he placed fairly high.
*Will place top-10 in 2008 as well.

And I don't have the time to show where he ranked every season among NHL defensemen in goals and........................oh crap.

Gonchar has been selected. And I'm a tool.

I thought I'd just leave this post intact for comedic effect. :laugh:

Pat Verbeek.

No time for a bio, or to PM the next guy. Sorry fellas, I'm at the mother in law's building a shelf.

MXD
04-14-2008, 10:15 PM
With pick # 364 Bisons select C/RW Fleming Mackell.

:) :)

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 10:35 PM
With the 366th pick in the 9th ATD draft the Minnesota Fighting Saints select
G Harry "Hap" Holmes

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsearch/holmes.jpg

Biography
One of the preeminent netminders of his era, Harry "Hap" Holmes excelled in all five of the top pro leagues from 1912 to 1928. He made an impact in the National Hockey Association, Pacific Coast Hockey Association, Western Canada Hockey League, Western Hockey League and National Hockey League. A sterling playoff performer, Holmes backstopped two Stanley Cup wins in Toronto and one each in Seattle and Victoria. He was the leading goalie six times in the Pacific Coast Hockey Association/Western Canada Hockey League when such rivals as **** ****** and George Hainsworth were still on the ice. In Stanley Cup play, he out-dueled such legends as Georges Vezina and Clint Benedict.

He debuted in the NHA with the Toronto Blueshirts in 1912-13 and enjoyed an outstanding sophomore year by leading the league in wins and helping the club become the first Toronto team to win the Stanley Cup.

Early in the 1915-16 season, he joined the Seattle Metropolitans. Once again Holmes was a part of history when he backstopped the Metropolitans to the first Stanley Cup won by a U.S.-based outfit.

Holmes continued his winning ways when he was loaned to the Toronto Arenas in January 1918; he helped the club win the Stanley Cup in the inaugural NHL season.

Holmes returned to Seattle for the 1918-19 season and remained for more than five years. In his first year back, he was present during the tragic final series against the Canadiens that was called off due to the global influenza epidemic. The fourth game of the series was arguably his finest performance. Following a scoreless 60 minutes of regulation time and 20 minutes of overtime, referee Mickey Ion declared the game a draw.

Holmes ventured east again with Seattle in 1920 to challenge Ottawa for the Stanley Cup. Despite his brilliance, the westerners lost a close series to the powerhouse Senators. He led the PCHA in shutouts four times and in wins on two occasions. He enjoyed two successful years with the Victoria Cougars from 1924 to 1926, leading the WCHL/WHL in his goals-against average.

In 1924-25, his brilliance led Victoria past the Saskatoon Sheiks in the WCHL playoffs. In the Stanley Cup championship match with the Montreal Canadiens, Holmes starred as Victoria became the last non-NHL team to win the Stanley Cup. The heroic netminder became the first goalie to win the Cup with four different franchises. That year he also attained his own personal triumph over Habs netminder Georges Vezina, against whom he'd waged the memorable but undecided battle in the 1919 championship series.

Full Bio: http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p197203&page=statsawards&list=#photo

One of the more underappreciated and underrated goalies in history. In his 16 year career he played for the Stanley Cup 7 times and won 4 (maybe more since one of his 7 appearances was cancelled for the flu epidemic). He beat the best goalies of his era in playoff situations and won a top player in every league he played in. We happily name him the starter and feel he's an excellent starter than won't be at a disadvantage to anyone in a playoff series.

MXD
04-14-2008, 10:40 PM
With the 366th pick in the 9th ATD draft the Minnesota Fighting Saints select
G Harry "Hap" Holmes

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/graphsearch/holmes.jpg

Biography


Full Bio: http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/LegendsMember.jsp?mem=p197203&page=statsawards&list=#photo

One of the more underappreciated and underrated goalies in history. In his 16 year career he played for the Stanley Cup 7 times and won 4 (maybe more since one of his 7 appearances was cancelled for the flu epidemic). He beat the best goalies of his era in playoff situations and won a top player in every league he played in. We happily name him the starter and feel he's an excellent starter than won't be at a disadvantage to anyone in a playoff series.

BULL****ING****. All the way. Everybody could write this kind of stuff about every of their player (he's an excellent NAME FUNCTION). Heck, if I wanted it, Vincent Damphousse could be a great 1st line center as well.

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 10:41 PM
For the record MacLeish played left wing in the minors for Boston, before the trade to Philadelphia. He was still listed as a LW in 75, but he was a natural center, and played almost all his NHL career there.

How on earth do you know all that?

I guess in theory I could slot him at LW and he'd know how to play it, but ultimately he should b a C

MXD
04-14-2008, 10:42 PM
Note to ATD GM'S. At least one GM will pick it's starter past pick 400. Or will pick a guy that should be his starter past pick 400. Or somebody will reach for a backup he doesn't need.

reckoning
04-14-2008, 10:47 PM
I was all set to use this pick on Jacques Lemaire. Rick Vaive as my 2nd line RW was a backup plan. Since both those are gone....I also wanted a tough defenceman and even though it may seem early for him, I this is a good pick for my team:

Ottawa 67s select...

http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/1970/0406_large.jpg
Keith Magnuson

Spitfire11
04-14-2008, 10:49 PM
I'll swap 12th and 13th rounders with anyone.

Gibsons Finest
04-14-2008, 10:52 PM
I'm gonna ponder my selection during my upcoming 5 hour, 45 minute jog. See y'all then!





Alright, now, in all seriousness, the Montreal Maroons select a superb two-way player, and once the highest-paid athlete in the world, C Derek Sanderson!

FissionFire
04-14-2008, 10:56 PM
BULL****ING****. All the way. Everybody could write this kind of stuff about every of their player (he's an excellent NAME FUNCTION). Heck, if I wanted it, Vincent Damphousse could be a great 1st line center as well.

So his Legends of Hockey bio is a complete work of fiction? I'd be interested in hearing some of your evidence to that regard.

BM67
04-14-2008, 11:00 PM
BULL****ING****. All the way. Everybody could write this kind of stuff about every of their player (he's an excellent NAME FUNCTION). Heck, if I wanted it, Vincent Damphousse could be a great 1st line center as well.
He beat Vezina and the Canadiens to win 3 of his 4 Cups, so reckoning probably wouldn't like to see him in the playoffs.

monster_bertuzzi
04-14-2008, 11:01 PM
Thank goodness the Miners selected Reed Larson and not....

D Sergei Gonchar... the first player I have ever selected in two ATD's!

I think Gonchar's resume compares quite favorably to Reed Larson, and when I have more time, I will demonstrate how he is quite similar to Phil Housley. (check their Norris finishes, for starters)

4th in Norris voting (2002)
4th in Norris voting (2003)
5th in Norris voting (2000)
6th in Norris voting (2001)
9th in Norris voting (2004)
15th in Norris voting (2006)
*Haven't checked the 2007 results, I believe he placed fairly high.
*Will place top-10 in 2008 as well.

And I don't have the time to show where he ranked every season among NHL defensemen in goals and........................oh crap.

Gonchar has been selected. And I'm a tool.

I thought I'd just leave this post intact for comedic effect. :laugh:

Pat Verbeek.

No time for a bio, or to PM the next guy. Sorry fellas, I'm at the mother in law's building a shelf.

Thanks for pumpin my tire. ;)

Sens Rule
04-14-2008, 11:03 PM
Crap... I was sick and missed two picks.

I'll take Dany Heatley and Chris Phillips... because I have no time to think about it and this is for fun and I am sorry I made you all wait.

Pwnasaurus
04-14-2008, 11:29 PM
The Kansas City Scouts select Alf Smith

vancityluongo
04-14-2008, 11:36 PM
I wanted Prentice and Arbour...with the Nonis firing, I can't concentrate, and I don't want to hold things up while I look for someone. Please skip me.

shawnmullin
04-14-2008, 11:43 PM
Crap... I was sick and missed two picks.

I'll take Dany Heatley and Chris Phillips... because I have no time to think about it and this is for fun and I am sorry I made you all wait.

You're watching the playoffs right?

Sturminator
04-15-2008, 12:27 AM
Smith's playoff record isn't that much better than Sloan's. Sloan had 21 pts in 47 games. Smith had 27 in 44.. Sloan was both a better goal score & playmaker than Smith. Sloan had 220g & 262a in 745games. Smith had 186g & 183A in 601 games. I think both are good 2nd liners in a 32 team draft. I do think I got better value though picking Sloan where I did.

pappy, I was talking about Bobby Smith (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=5024), the guy we drafted. The big, playmaking 2-way pivot with 160 points in 184 playoff games who was the Habs' #1 center in 1986 and a key contributor on playoff teams in almost every season he played.

I'm not really sure who you were thinking of, but Tod Sloan and Bobby Smith's playoff records aren't even in the same ballpark.

edit: ahhh...you thought I was comparing Sloan to Sid Smith. Somebody else drafted him.

John Flyers Fan
04-15-2008, 12:30 AM
I know that some knocked the selection of Sakic at #50, but one thing is for certain; there surely aren't 49 better playoff performers in the history of the game.

Spitfire11
04-15-2008, 12:34 AM
Well, just in case I end up facing Gretzky in the playoffs I'll take Selke winner and Gretzky specialist, the speedy C Steve Kasper

vancityluongo
04-15-2008, 12:35 AM
Don't know much about him, but I don't want to log on tommorow and see a bunch of solid guys gone that I could've drafted, and he could be one of those guys. D Taffy Abel.

pitseleh
04-15-2008, 12:42 AM
Don't know much about him, but I don't want to log on tommorow and see a bunch of solid guys gone that I could've drafted, and he could be one of those guys. D Taffy Abel.

Not only is he the second best Abel in the draft, he's also the second best Clarence.

seventieslord
04-15-2008, 01:01 AM
Thanks for pumpin my tire. ;)

Pumping over. You took him a tad early. I'd have loved him at my spot, though :)

Hawkman
04-15-2008, 01:01 AM
Derek Sanderson is one of my favorite players. :)

nik jr
04-15-2008, 01:02 AM
re kasper:
I live in Boston, and Boston was not one of Wayne Gretzky's better stops. The old Garden, with the smallest ice surface in the NHL, took away the flashiest pieces of his repertoire. Watching him play there was like trying to appreciate the majesty of a bald eagle while it was confined in a box.

In the early, championship-filled years of his career with the Edmonton Oilers, Gretzky came to the Garden only once or twice a year. The Bruins slapped a shadow on him -- often forward Steve Kasper , who won the Selke Trophy in 1982 as the league's top defensive forward -- and kept him under control. Gretzky was bumped and bothered as Boston fans cheered. Not counting the five expansion clubs added in the 1990s, the Bruins are the team that held him to the fewest regular-season points, if you consider 71 points in 51 games holding him.

This is the guy who's supposed to be better than Bobby Orr? was the longtime appraisal of Gretzky by Boston fans. Who are they kidding? Then in 1988 the Bruins reached the Stanley Cup finals. Against the Oilers. Against Gretzky. The series was no contest. Edmonton won in four straight, and Gretzky was everywhere. He made those passes that only he could make, putting the puck on the blade of a teammate's stick in front of the goal at the proper moment. He controlled all power-play situations. He befuddled the Bruins with all his tricks. He finished with 13 points -- three goals and 10 assists -- a record for a final series. He was the easy choice for the Conn Smythe Trophy as the playoff MVP.

Oh, my. The bald eagle was out of the box.
—Leigh Montville

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/news/1999/04/22/siwritersremember/

bun cook:

I remember in the early thirties, when the banks started to go over, Ching withdrew his money because he heard that his bank was going under. So there he was, walking around with $5,000 in his pockets. Ching was rawboned and about 220 (pounds). Taffy Abel was the other defenseman. They used to call them the 'sultan of suet' and the 'mountain of mutton.' Taffy was about 235. Ching had a firm jaw on him. He'd always be playing with a smile. When he handed out a body check, you were really shook up. When they ran into Taffy, they bounced off him like a rubber ball.

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/html/spot_oneononep199501.htm

Sturminator
04-15-2008, 01:03 AM
So his Legends of Hockey bio is a complete work of fiction? I'd be interested in hearing some of your evidence to that regard.

In a 32 team league, I consider Holmes a starter, and arguably a better one than a few guys already drafted. Saying that he "won't be at a disadvantage to anyone," however, is straining the point just a bit, don't you think?

The biggest question on Holmes is one of era. Winning the Stanley Cup in Holmes' era and winning five consecutive 7 game playoff matchups (which is what it will take in ATD#9) are very different things. Holmes never won more than three playoff games in any season.

seventieslord
04-15-2008, 01:03 AM
I know that some knocked the selection of Sakic at #50, but one thing is for certain; there surely aren't 49 better playoff performers in the history of the game.

Well, we just voted him about 33rd all-time, didn't we? And he's a center, who GMs should want to build around. So who would knock that pick?

arrbez
04-15-2008, 01:03 AM
can anyone take a list for me?

God Bless Canada
04-15-2008, 01:05 AM
can anyone take a list for me?
I can. I'll be working for a while yet tonight.

So is 70s going to announce his pick?

God Bless Canada
04-15-2008, 01:08 AM
I know that some knocked the selection of Sakic at #50, but one thing is for certain; there surely aren't 49 better playoff performers in the history of the game.
I wasn't knocking the pick. I just said there were better players available, including a couple centres. (Bentley and Apps Sr). I had Sakic at early 40-something in my History of Hockey top 120 list, and I certainly wouldn't fault anyone for taking Sakic in the 35-40 range because of all he brings to the game.

arrbez
04-15-2008, 01:14 AM
With 70's and Evil Sather online, looks like I'll get to announce my own pick tonight. So hurry up boys, I need my beauty sleep!

seventieslord
04-15-2008, 01:20 AM
Our focus on defense and checkers has caused us to have to reach pretty far for our second line center.

C Vincent Lecavalier will do. There were a couple others who have inflated 1980's numbers, but this guy is better. He was a major part of a stanley cup, has won a Richard Trophy, has 5 straight 30-goal seasons in a low-scoring era, Is equally adept at stickhandling and passing as he is at shooting, plays a solid all-around game, can drop the gloves, and rarely misses a game. We are happy to add him to our lineup.

monster_bertuzzi
04-15-2008, 01:29 AM
Pumping over. You took him a tad early. I'd have loved him at my spot, though :)

Not at all. As you said - he is the European Phil Housley...one of the most talented blueliners of this Era.

arrbez
04-15-2008, 01:40 AM
do de do do doooo

arrbez
04-15-2008, 01:45 AM
**** it, i'm going to bed.

GBC has my pick.

Nalyd Psycho
04-15-2008, 02:35 AM
BULL****ING****. All the way. Everybody could write this kind of stuff about every of their player (he's an excellent NAME FUNCTION). Heck, if I wanted it, Vincent Damphousse could be a great 1st line center as well.

Ticked off we got a steal?

Evil Sather
04-15-2008, 02:36 AM
After a TON of deliberation, Kootenay needs a guy who won't be overly out of place on a scoring line and takes C Cooney Weiland.